 All right, so I think we can get started. Call the meeting to order. Is there any public comment for items not on the agenda? I don't see any. I have an addition to the agenda. OK. Application for use of town highway right of way permit by Greg Pellchuk, by Rose Pellchuk. Application for what? Is it an ROW? Right away? Yeah, right away, work in the towns right away. Yes. OK, so you've got to file it with the town clerk. We've got to ask you to do it or do you got to prove it? Yeah. So yeah, we just got to add it to the agenda and then they could tell you about it. OK, but he has to pay a fee, right? So I don't think there's an application form. Is that it from the website? Very hard to find. It's under zoning permits. It is hard to find. Very hard to find. OK, good to know if there's a little bit around. Yeah. Yeah, I have the actually the instructions. Yeah, the easy place to go, it's only the ordinance. So I found the ordinance in two different places, but to get the form to actually fill that out, it's under zoning permits. Fee of $50. OK. And we have to have a number. I mean, are you asking us to do this tonight? Well, I want to add it to the agenda and see if we could do it tonight. We can order it. The thing of it is, is that he wants to dump three loads of aggregate on the corner of a road because they're fixing a driveway. The truck can't go across the bridge. Dump three loads on Friday. Scoop three loads up on Saturday. So it's going to be there for 24 hours. So I don't even know if he needed to go through that formal thing. So, and I thought maybe he could just talk to Alfred. I don't know, maybe he doesn't need to, but just to be. I mean, this isn't permanent. This is just a temporary one day there, one day gone. Yeah, dump three loads. It's not a permanent change. He's not changing. So it sounds to me like it doesn't even. Well, I didn't know. So we were just trying to be extra. So if we need to add that to the agenda, we could talk about it some more. So we can ask Toby and Alfred. I mean, do people do this routinely and don't get a permit? Well, it's not a permanent structure. And you're not being on the road. No, we're not doing anything. So I think you just have to coordinate with the road commissioner that is acceptable. That's what I would say. The other two ROWs we have, they're actually, they're digging up the road and putting down pipe and all these different things. So I don't even think you need to. He's just using the challenge right away to put something. So what we can do is when we're under highway stuff, which we have a lot of highway stuff to do. We could talk about this more. You could just let Alfred know. If Alfie was here, we'd ask him right now. Yes, we would. Thank you. We could talk about it. Yeah, me too. Yeah, so ROWs was just thinking that Greg needed a right of way permit to one day dump three loads of stone the next day, move it. And that to me just sounds like he just needs to let you know it doesn't need a permit. He's not digging up the road. He's not putting any pipes in the road. Just bump it in there and dump it. Yeah, like one day. Dump it Friday, move it Saturday. I don't see why he needs a permit for that. Just thank you. Thank you for being so diligent. Well, I just said, you know, I don't know. I don't think we wouldn't have anybody else do a permit. When do we offer that? Not for that. He's just staging it there and going to pick it back up. OK, so this. He made a little map. OK. I would just suggest if it's there overnight, just put some cones around it. Yes, that's a good idea. Yeah, she's going to dump it Friday and move it Saturday. Sounds like a non-issue. OK, so once it's started, we have two right-of-way applications. They are listed on the agenda, and they're in the folder. The first one is Sam Enfield. Erin, how do you say it? E-H-R-E-N. Erin Feld. Erin Feld, if that's spelled correctly. Property address is East Hill Road. Erin Feld. Yeah, and you've looked at it, right? Yeah, I had a chance to talk to him, like I was hoping. I did look at the site. OK, and do you have any thoughts on it? It says, dig and bury a waterline from one side of right-of-way to the other. And he put a nice little map. He's going to hit ledge. I guarantee it. He's going to hit ledge there. So what happens when they hit ledge? Well, if he gets anywhere near or deep enough, he can insulate it and still be fine. But that's going to be an issue for him. Would you rather we wait to approve this until you've talked to him? Well, no, I think we can approve it. He needs to know he's going to hit ledge and he's going to come up with some solutions around that. Is that because we require it or because it's? Well, we like utilities under the road to be at least four feet deep. Right, and that's what he is. And I'm sure he would like that, too, for cross-protection. However, if you hit ledge, he's going to have to blast it. Well, that's why I'm wondering if we should wait until you talk to him, because if he says he wants to blast it, then that's going to make this permit different. Right. So I think we should. I've dug there, and I know for sure that there's going to be ledge there. We can't even hardly get a ditch along that side of the road in that area. All right, I think we should wait until you talk to him, because if he's going to have to blast and he wants to blast, then that's going to make the conditions different. That's fine. I mean, I tried to stop and see him today, but he wasn't there when I went through it. All right, so let's put this in here and then one on July. I mean, yeah, June, I'm ahead of myself, June 24th agenda. And just, when you talk to him, let him know we were going to do it, but you wanted to give him this information. He should appreciate the information you have for him. All right, long go, Nick Lachlan, everybody has a name that I can't pronounce tonight, Nick Lachlan. Apple Hill Road. Did you have a chance to? I did. You talked to him? Yes, I actually talked to him. OK. Not sure of who his excavator is. He told me the name, but I don't recognize it. But it's pretty straightforward. Just digging straight across the bus toward the road. It's a very power. It's a very power line. Is that 240? 240. I didn't know there was a hand. Power cable across the road at a depth of four feet. That's like six. That's not four feet on the other hand. Oh, six feet is the. Six feet is the distance between them. Yeah, his description is at four feet. Four foot depth, there. OK, and do you have any? So again, typically, if you can't get at least three feet for underground depth of underground power, you got to case it in concrete. And that's to protect the future digging in that area. Somebody doesn't. Right. So if they're not able to dig down four feet. They can't get three feet for power. They can't get three feet. They have to case it in concrete. OK, so if you can't dig down at least three feet. Right. Three feet. They must encase the line in a. And also, I know that. Wait a second, wait a second. Must encase the line in concrete. Concrete. Concrete. OK. And what else? There's a couple of large trees that he is going to have to cut in order to put it where he's got marked. Are they in the town's right away, so he needs to get Neil to look at them? They're very much in the town right away. OK. Ornamental shade trees? No such thing as countless. Oh, OK. Sorry. We don't have ornaments. Well, it's one's a white birch. It's one's an ash tree. But they're large. I mean, they're 14, 16 inches in diameter. So he needs to contact the tree warden about cutting trees. Trees, right? Well, I don't know how that works. It's his own property. Is that in the right way? It's in the right way. It is in the right way. It's in the right way. Yeah. I think he has to contact the tree warden during the whole ash project. Right. OK. Contact. Neil Maker. Tree Warden. Neil Maker before. In town right of way. Does Neil have to approve it? I think he has to. Yes. Yes. I think he has to hold it in. So I would say before and about. Before sounds like it's just giving him a heads up. And he actually, it's more than that. Before cutting trees in the town right of way. Or just add like there's a procedure in a hearing process for cutting trees. Something so that he understands not just giving Neil the blessing. You've kind of explained all that to me. No, because you didn't know. Well, I don't understand it myself. I mean, it's his own property. I always thought it didn't have to go through Neil. No, I think it still does. I just know that during the ash training there was a lot of on town right of way and the tree warden. Because he might have to. Unless there are hazard trees, he's probably going to have to hold here. And I think that's Neil's job is to determine if it is a tree or not. Right, that's why he just needs to come. He doesn't really get permission to cut a tree. If it's a live tree, he's going to say well. No, he would. He has to hold a hearing. Neil does. So that's not your job. That's letting Neil take care of that. No, I'm just trying to understand what it is. Because I thought it was their own property they could cut their own tree. No. Okay. Anything else on that one? Anybody have any questions? No, I see they've had big safe there. So they've got underground telephone there that was all marked out for them. It seems like they're doing it right now. Okay. Picture a road. Good. Yeah, that's that white bircher. Good to know. It's a two tree. It's a white bircher. Yeah, they're going right between them. So they both have to go. Yeah. Yeah, but if they dig that up, it's going to kill them. Right. Okay. All right. So I can finish it on the top part. Would anybody like to make a motion to approve this right of way for Longo McLaughlin with the restrictions as discussed? Any other questions or comments on this? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Today is June 10th and I'll pass this around for everybody to sign. The sign that just returns me so I can take care of getting it to them. All right. I thought Peter Harvey was coming to talk about. Excuse me, roadside mowing. That's what he said. That's what he said. So until he shows up, the only question I have is, did you talk to Doug? And is he all set to? Yeah, he should be starting. I would say at the end of this week or next, getting the next, he's also, he's finishing up with middle sex. I thought I'd ask him to be here for the second week in June. So he should be starting this week? Yeah. This is the second week. Okay. And does he have a time when he's going to start in August or is that just kind of open-ended? I asked him for the first part of August as well. Okay. So that's all. That's. You got it all covered. Yeah. He gave me his work so that's all I've got right now. I'm sure he'll do it. Yeah. If he gave his work, he'd do it. He'll do it. Yeah. The second week of August, or second week of June is now. Right. This week, not next week. Right. And I only raise that because the trouble is, is out. It's, it's, you know, I don't know what, I don't know what his timeline is for going to seed. Peter, do you remember? I know. I guess you're asking. Yeah. It's in the document, I think that Toby gave us and in something that Peter sent around that I looked at today and now can't remember. Do you remember Toby? No. That's, yeah. That's what we need to be, you know, if it's all going to seed next week then. Don't tell him. And the problem is we're competing with other towns that want to do the exact same thing at exact same time. Right. So it's one of those things that we have to deal with the availability of some of the big rock models. And he was the only one who's been on it. We didn't put up with it. Yeah. We always give it to him. Because we, you know, like him, he does a good job for us. And he lives here. He lives here. Yeah. We used to put it out the bin. We used to put it out the bin. We never got anybody, but Doug. That's what I'm remembering. We got some higher bins. In the past. Right. But yeah, they were a lot higher. And he actually knows where all the invasive plants are and all the issues because he's done it for so long. Right. It's a great asset to have. No, it is. As long as they get there before they don't see them. Yep. Tell the sun to stop shining. Say what? Tell the sun to stop shining and then we'll just hold back going to see it. Yeah. Okay. So the days before we move on, we approved this Kirkup permit. I think it was last meeting for Chris Nuff. Oh, Nuff. Yep. Yep. So Gene Bohn has started the work. So I wanted to talk to him. He came to me first. Who, Gene did? Gene did. He says they don't want to put a cauldron in there. I said, well, Gene, that's the permit. Calls for a couple of cauldrons here. So I went and met him there and looked at Oliver. We've come up with another solution. Why don't they want to put a cauldron in there? There are pension pennies, I guess. I don't know. But so I said, he wanted to bring the water from this new driveway over to Doug Grout's old driveway in the house that he sold. And so that cauldron is not in good condition. I told him that. It's been there 40 years. That water won't accept this water. So I said, go talk to the new owners of Doug Grout's house and see if they're willing to pay to get a cauldron put in there. Gene's going to do all the work. But that cauldron needs to be replaced. But why should then people across the road have to pay? They all agree. They're all agreeing. I talked to Gene today before I brought this to you. And he says they're all agreeing to have it done. I don't know. I wanted the water to go. Right. I don't think we should do that. No, it doesn't seem like the right thing. I mean, it's nice that they're all agreeing. Well, maybe the new driveway is paying for it. I don't really know. He just said that they were going to go for that. I would at least want to hear from them. Yeah. I think if they want to come up with a different plan, I think they need to come and talk to the board. Okay. I don't want to be miserable about it. No, I know. I mean, we're basing our decision on your recommendation because you know where you want the water to go. What they're proposing to change the water is fine with me. I mean, I think it will work just as well. Mm-hmm. So I sort of agreed to it because I don't. I mean, the water has to go somewhere. Yeah. I'm responsible for that water. So by him changing that culvert, where now he wants the water to go, it's going to be fine. Then why don't we ask them, I think maybe he needs to file an amended permit application and get these other people to sign. I don't have one in front of me to remember what the. Mm-hmm. And get those other people to sign off and have some kind of written agreement. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have written agreement before they do this. How about that? I agree. And I don't think it's a bad idea to have them come here and talk to us. It's like, what's your idea? Why are you doing this? Right. Or at least put it in writing. Yeah. Yeah. The last thing, the last thing, any of us quitting you, Alfie, want to happen is to discover that the telephone game got it wrong somewhere. Right. Or that, oh, we never agree about blah, blah, blah. Right. So I'd like to see them do an amended, they can just use the permit application that's on the line. So essentially, I'm asking for the agreement in writing. Right. And then that is telling me it's a verbal agreement between the two homeowners. I don't know. Right. But they can use, they can have them fill out the curb cut application again with this new idea and will issue a new decision. Yes. And let me add to that. The reason that's important is when they go to sell, part of the title search you talked about is looking at the permits. And. That'll be recorded. That'll be recorded. I wouldn't actually, in return, go out and look at the site, but anybody could. And the site would be not consistent with the permit, with no record of why that's the case. And that could, it's not very hard for that to be a real problem. Right. Especially. It protects them. It protects everybody, including the town. Right. I have a question. Are you going to waive the fee or? Yeah. We'll waive the fee. Yeah. They don't have to pay again. Yeah. But I think you can say it protects them for the work they're doing to be consistent with the permit that the select board approves. And this way. No question. It's in writing. We signed it. It's just, it's just cleaner that way. I think you guys agree. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Back to, we were just talking about roadside mowing here. Okay. I'm sorry. I thought it started at 7 30. That's all right. That's all right. You sent me. Agenda. Yeah. Agenda. So we were just talking with Alfred. He's got Doug Grout all set. Doug should be starting the first mowing this week. The first roadside mowing. And he's doing two this year. And he'll do another one sometime in the beginning of August. Alfred's got to get the dates from him on that. So we budgeted this year for two mowings. You did that last year as well. Right. Well, we didn't budget for it, but we did it. You did it. Right. So this year we budgeted for it. So, you know, I guess it's, you wanted to talk to us about your idea of not mowing on the roads the same as last year. Last year. And you asked me to go talk to all of the neighbors. Yeah. And I did. And there was one in your email said there was one person that told me definitively that he does not want to continue last year's no mowing policy because he does not want to go against the road commissioner. Yes. And there was another one who doesn't want to do it. And I haven't heard from a third person yet. But other than that I have heard from a third person. I've been to 35 households. I've talked to people at 35 households and I've taken notes about their concerns and I put them, most of them agreed to be on an email list. I'm calling four roads because there were four roads involved. And clever. And so, yeah. And so I have two reports that I've already sent out for the two times that I've been out. But we've got seven or eight people that are pulling seven people, I think, including me. Oh, so you're not having to do it all by yourself? No. No, people that this has been, you know, this is the third year I've been pulling and this is the second year that people have been getting involved. So what do you even what about the people that don't want to be part of this? If they live on the road what did you come up with for a solution? I don't think there is one. I think it's you can or you can't. I think if you you know, if you if you skip over somebody or if you go into some place then you're going to drag the seeds. Yes. Can you can you get your crew, seven or eight people, a nice sized crew to pull pull the trouble from there or from there first and then Alfie can mill. The problem with that is the seeds sort of settle everywhere and so that's like if I think you're going to have problems if you when you do your second mowing anyway you're going to spread more. Now Lucy just came home, helped her use my billier and she said that they're they're not mowing places where it has trouble. I don't know I haven't talked to them yet. But we did go to Maine which cut into my time putting this together where you're not where you're not my old office over there I promised to be there and a month or two ago and we noticed that in Maine and in New Hampshire there's no trouble. It starts about a mile on route two this side of the Connecticut River and then it gradually builds up to when you get to Marshfield it's solid on both sides of the road it's almost like the Japanese not we still we can't see our bicycle path. So I'm going to be talking to as many people as I can. And I already I think sent you the two women down in Randolph that did the study. Yeah, we have and so I've done that but people are very enthusiastic about it one person said I can't wait to run over the stuff. Now what about the issue we had last year where people wanted to make sure that they could have visibility out of their driveway and the Burdocks and all that. There were 32 people that requested that and not the Burdocks but the visibility on the retreat. Janet Anselt and I have heard back from her yet I left her the information and she said she would get back to me but she was concerned about the Burdock more than the chervil. Then Sue Kilgeron emailed me this afternoon and she's agreed to it what she wants to figure out something to do about the Burdock I offered to hand size Sue's Burdock not Burdock but her line of sight I think the bigger problem in their driveway is the tree branches coming down rather than the stuff coming up make the tree branches come down That's not for us to decide I guess that's not for us to decide but well and then the only other one is Ken who changed his mind Ken and Ken Morris and he said yes last week and then over the weekend he emailed me called me up and said no He agreed to the not mulling? He initially agreed to the not mulling and now he wants it mulled and now he wants it mulled and that's it and part of the problem is we can't have Doug kind of do from my understanding to like to do these hit and miss I don't think so pieces where people want something cut and other people don't I mean that's just I can tell you that three years ago or four years ago actually three years ago or four seasons ago there was only a clock about five feet wide down my mic corner and now it's in it's up past my driveway into Waltz Street and it's off the road by 50 here 70 feet and that's it destroys the farmer's land and according to that article you said you can't you can't hay will grow well hay will grow but you can't bail it because it's so wet that it'll no do well then you're and then it's also and then the cows and the seeds are in it and we're not you know I haven't heard a consensus yet about whether the cows or even goats down in Mount Bay can pass the seeds through and redistribute them they do some seeds and I don't know but I'll be working and I'll be writing these reports every time I go out which is going to be two times a week I have the worst area my corner that's expanded and drawn out so it's going to I think if you start mowing Old West Church for instance it's going to go right down the road and if you turn around and come back and it's already done 10th corner is Old West Church in the No Mo Zone Old West Church Fowler Road Lisbon Road and Sparrow Sparrow Sparrow Yeah I know I drove up there last year to try to figure out what well turtle and hike and so on and so forth So Peter the people who are saying no what is their expectation Yes I don't know Is there expectation that that you know one veto can kibosh your effort or do they or do they or are they community-spirited enough to understand you know my vote is no but I understand I might lose and you guys will pull my turtle and hand side for me Well I talked to Ken about that because he's got plans between County Road and this house right I vote 20 plans so he's got to get it right away but I talked to him and I offered to sigh even if you decide not to moan even though he's you know he's against the moan And he said no he doesn't want he said he would take care of himself I don't really I couldn't convince him that I could come up and sigh that in a few minutes so I'm excited So there's three folks that are concerned about the not-mowing there is three folks Janet's concerned about the burdock burdock yeah and then Seuss well and then Steri she said I'll do whatever Alfie tells me to and then you got that Alfie he said whoa he said you are really good he pointed out the drain so I just want to I just want to have for the minute who is opposed to the no-mow zone can you just answer that question it's Janet I don't know about Janet because she has got that it's just Steri and I don't know Steri and but if Alfred goes and talks to him and says you go for it oh okay and when they're concerned about burdock is that when you don't mow then the burdock has a chance to grow and they like the mowing to manage that because well that well last year it was an issue because she said the burdock were so high it affected her sight line getting out of the driveway which was that killer killer killer killer I'm just looking for some clear answers so we have it in a minute so when somebody gets a call so killerins are okay and you're going to hand side their sight line I talk to them briefly or we can have personal thing to go it's down and the data I talk to them is there and so we haven't ironed out the details that she does want to work out something so she has three concerns she has three people to park off the road I think she's let me find what she said she wants a line of sight for safety no that's the wrong one because it's on six sheets here wants to address thick roadside greenery burdock and narrowing the road results in parking issues around Old West Church and Kent events and I have her email here for you if you like it okay that would be great okay Kent Morris but you're going to but he's a he's against no mowing but is okay we don't is that my understanding he said no take care of it he said he would take care of his line of sight himself okay and then the third one was Janet Ansel that we're waiting we're waiting here from Janet Ansel the third one was Stereo Stereo doesn't have any Stereo doesn't really have a strong opinion one way or another well but he doesn't with any growth I was going to say he's right by the well yeah parking lot right he's a parking lot all the way long as right he's got impervious surface yeah but it cars park on it so so I'm just trying to say so we're clear in the minutes so when six three months from now when I get a phone call somebody's complaining I'm going to go back and look at the minutes and this is what was discussed in the morning yeah and you have done your due diligence and contacting people I just want to make sure we're clear yeah anybody else have any thoughts or ideas how to make this I can't see I'm sorry I do so one question I have with this team of seven people yeah why can't you ahead of the moment go pull this travel out and then we can all we can only pull out plants that are stronger to pull out where the flowers gotten big so what I can pull out today I can't pull out today I have to wait three or four days to pull out so it's not like it all happens at once it's not like a modern monoculture so it's everything the same day so it's going to drag out for over a month it matures a different and then I think and we'll find out but they still right but the the seeds are at the head of the plant right that's weird but they don't they stay there and so and they and they you filter down into stuff and then your more goes right down close to okay so tell me what happens to the seed when it's in the road on the road surface and it's been pulverized by a tire where's that seed going then after it rains it's going right back into the ditch it's going back into the same place and not spreading that's about the best we could do this stuff your roundup won't touch it and we don't want to use roundup anyways well but they've tried that there isn't an herbicide that'll take care of this so another point that I'd like to make is when we grade and that stuff is thrown in the road it's very wiring it gets mixed into the gravel it's very hard to level the gravel back out smooth it's very difficult when you've got weeds in the road that are three four feet long and it gets all tangled up in the gravel you brought this up last year it's a fact cheater I've done this I've done this I've been watching it and the plants are gone in a week they're not gone they're still there they may soften up or get be pulverized basically you guys need to talk to the board so we don't get into that as you said last year they're unrecognizable right away and we they get ground up by the tire right but if you're doing it in the morning and we come through in the afternoon it's not all disintegrated it's not it's still there and it's going to get all walled up in our gravel I'm trying to talk to the board we only do it in the afternoon in the evening because it has a sap that reacts for the sunlight and it's more likely to give you a rash it's not nearly as bad as some of the other things but what we forgot we also have was it cow purse there's something the yellow one on my corner on all three corners that's Sharon's baby that's my dog cow purse yeah and last year we had maybe half a dozen plants this year we've got dozens so I'll be looking into pulling that up right now it's not strong and after good rain it's a lot easier yeah but the roadside where it still is in most places is the gravel that's been knocked off the road either graded off the road by the grader or knocked off the road by cars so it's pretty soft stuff and I've had very good luck with pulling on the roadside horrible mess yeah there's always a basis it's terrible it's just it's stunning to see how to control this gets and then you can't do a thing about it once it's really cool and see how if it's worse than it is now if it keeps on getting worse I'll have to quit one year or two but it's it's moved up several hundred feet from where it was four years ago yeah when it was just a few plants road-related plants these things don't move anyways whether it's mowed or not I mean you're saying it's your whole field that whole field has got it we're not mowing your field we're only mowing six feet so I'm not sure that that mowing is the total culprit of this spreading it's spreading on its own so and I have to keep going back to that stuff being thrown in the road it's a very much a nuisance for the grader operator is there another way we can dispose of this stuff somewhere other than can you put it in trash bags hold me if you've got a lot of them and dump trucks to put it in we're going to re-take it you don't grade the road every day you just lay it alongside the edge of the road so it's not in the middle of the road they have to crush the cars have to crush it yeah I mean I I do the same thing I put it in the road we all do on Tucker Road that's the parsnip stuff that's the parsnip and this is a it's this is related to the turbo right turbo and parsnip I think it's different I don't know family or something yeah but Alfred I hear I hear what you're saying but to me this is this is the hard work of working together to you know so you're saying if you come through later in the day it's it gets it doesn't get too even the next day if you hear it says he works at night the next morning we do most of our grading in the morning well it's all day long but in the morning it's going to be fresh it's going to be very wiry it's going to get but you don't but this is you know you don't grade every road in town every day like there's got to be some way that so I'll just put the list make a list of these no more roads I won't grade them until the fall you just graded ours all three of them no I don't I don't think that's the right I think that if you know that this is being done on these roads if you can check and see when they pull then you change the how long how long do you grade the roads every couple of weeks do you grade ours on the well I mean I think this is you've got almost 90 miles plus to grade I mean in the spirit of community involvement and I appreciate what Peter and others are trying to do with the invasives and I would think that the town we should do our part with the invasives to try to not help them spread the most we can do mm-hmm and if you can well Peter can let you know he can send you an email when you've pulled a bunch and if grading is on the schedule then he changed it yeah I can add you to the list and I send you a put it in the pickup and bring it to my shop and I'll run over it in one safe spot if that's what it takes it needs to be run over put it in the pickup bring it to my shop I'll pulverize it with the bucket loader at grade or whatever and then it'll be gone that way I just I'm having a problem with the stuff in the row it's hard to grade the row with that stuff I'll take you up tell me why you can't change the schedule if you know that it's there because mother nature dictates the schedule of grading but if it's the weather it's one that the road gets wobbly as when it needs to be done I get that I appreciate that but I think this is something we need to work on together I'm offering to expose the stuff it's not it's as a person who pulls that and now we're just down a rabbit hole arguing I'm I'm with Peter I mean when you've got a crew of seven or eight people I'm so envious Peter we don't all work together we work independently well and also you know you can't it's also what you have is like we do on Tucker Road like would Tucker well I haven't asked my neighbors but I believe it would be fine with putting up grading for a few days while we deal with our wild parsonate problem which we do as a you know I mean a group I mean there must be places where you pull this chervil that you know it's out everybody's out pulling we don't all get out at the same time and I bicycle with six miles well I guess in an effort to try to make this work I appreciate Alfred's concerns and frustration but we need to work together this is a town issue we're all neighbors we're all in this together so as I said I appreciate Alfred's concerns I appreciate what you and seven other people are doing so when you guys pull a bunch maybe you can email these folks and maybe you guys can all do it coordinate doing it you know they walk four miles every morning and they do it when they see it and I'm starting to find it on their roadside okay but see so they do it independently when they do it and we all you know how hard it is to get seven people together I know but I think you need to explain the issue to them about the grading issue to this group this email group that you have and see if you can work out a plan on this together there doesn't need to be an argument there's two sides to the story there always is can you give me a hint as to what you think a good plan would be because I don't think you can get seven people out there across the week two or three hours can you set up a Google calendar can you set up an Outlook calendar or you can share it I'm just trying to think it's a struggle to get people out you know they all have to see that happening the closest you're going to come to that is to go back to me and do it by myself well no that's not fair and right now we're building a community effort and it's really fun to see this happening yeah it is it's great that's what I'm saying it's great I don't want to I don't want to really frustrate them by making it too difficult making it impossible right no I mean I do it's a great community effort I applaud that so I think Peter could tell me when he's going to grade but you're saying you can't because of the weather but you just you must have an idea Alfred when you're going to be going over on that side of town with grade when it's when it's pot hole and I have time and the weather's right so you ride around and know that you're going to be grading these roads because they're pot hole next week you can't let Peter know and he can but the thing of it is is that Peter's not doing this all in one amount of time as much as you're doing it throughout a month or so or two months oh it's going to be at least a month and I've got volunteers at that time that it's going to happen and be done and then I can go to my job I've got volunteers who grade this on their own and Alfred's got paid employees that he directs I can't direct my volunteers so what's the road there right now and we're just graded last week so they shouldn't need grading again for what three or four weeks I'll let them go for two months if you want I mean you're going to have to play sport we're trying to work on this together and if you let it go for a month I'm trying to let you understand the other side of it and I do and I appreciate the other side of it we're going to be complaining about that so let's see how things are in three weeks okay great and I think this two days then we won't procurable so let's get an update at our meeting on June 24th how it's going what shape the road is in how much I don't know how long this stuff takes to kind of go through its cycle so then the road grading isn't an issue there's got to be a way to work this out so let's do that alright okay he's got it in the minutes you have a thought you want to hit somebody with your cane thank you had enough pain for a while so I didn't want to spread any on anyone Peter do you think your volunteers would be willing to record when they pulled they do and they report it to you we do what they aren't as organized about it as I am this is this is what I pulled and what I saw on the first report at June 4th it's in go for okay and then the second report is is more condensed I'm just figuring out how to do this the first one was a page and a half the second one was one page so that people read it without getting glassy eye right yeah I'm just thinking if you can somehow manage to capture more than less when people are doing this then a pattern might suggest itself that we could then work with Alfie and say this is times when we see people are doing this this is the time frame looking at the question I would have for Alfie then is are there particular areas that repeatedly from year to year you experience this problem that you've described or is it just anywhere where it's happening you mean the problem with the lines in the road lines in the road while you're trying to do the gravel and grading the areas okay so that is the worst problem area and now your concern is expanding to other areas as more and more people get involved in the projects okay but there's a thicker concentration around your house and other areas well Lucy notice coming back from Maine on Saturday was that the intersections are the most inundated by this and when you're driving a route to Marshallville and going east from there you see it that you come up to an intersection and I don't quite know why yet but the intersections are just all three sides of a T intersection are just full of the stuff and my house and my lots the corner lot okay so I just want to remind everybody that it's ten minutes of eight we still have a lot to do on the agenda so can you come to some kind of interview people can send you an email hey I pulled charitable today you write it down on your chart and then we'll ask Alfred to wait until June 24 to get an update so we know about the condition of the road whether it needs to be graded I would turn that around and say Alfred you tell us when you want to grade it we won't pull that's much easier to do than to get people to come out on a schedule and Alfred I just said the roads are fine they've been great I'll leave the roads alone for a month okay alright we're saying until June for those four roads I won't Alfred we are saying that we're going to get an update on June 24 we'll see what the condition of the road is what their status is with pulling their stuff and take it from there so we don't want you to say that you're not going to do any grading for a month but we're going to put it back on June 24 alright two weeks from today right so does that make sense to everybody but Alfred okay two weeks two weeks two weeks from today it's imperfect it's in we've said this every time we talk about invasives there's so many tensions right it's imperfect and we're all trying to figure it out and I really am impressed and applaud the patients and the diligence of the work and all this stuff that you've put together for schedules and information we thank you one of the questions I'll be asking you down at Randolph because I'll be going down there and talking more with you last year yeah we have to ramp Peter is how is this affected property by this this turtle in the fields it can't be used anymore and it might have just their tax piece might be falling well that's a really good question thank you you might put this on my I need to may I put these signs up then all of them I always spend here at the ends of the road because last year after the day after you said I could put the signs up I went downtown and made the signs I got out by 10 o'clock there was there was somebody coming down with a mower off the county road under this pond road and I stopped them in the first 30 or 40 feet that's where I was so do we want to make a motion to authorize Peter to post the roadside mowing exclusion zone signs on the roads as he has described so much is there a second second alright further discussion all those in favor please say aye aye thank you alright thank you alright and I will email the best tomorrow morning right okay great thank you and maybe can you put me on your email list so I can keep up to date on what's going on yeah alright hydrocedar is that all set it'll be here Thursday Thursday okay we wanted to I guess the conservation commission had some questions about and we talked about this last meeting and I can get Stephanie or somebody on the commission to give me their exact questions but they had specific questions about making sure that the product that is the chemical and the product that is sprayed is environmentally safe do you have any yeah the dye is food grade dye and you can eat it okay because I know so you can eat you can eat the grass well Monsanto said their stuff was safe too and there's later we find out it's not so this is why we're asking well it's food grade it's food grade dye they put in the product so if you can eat it you can put it in the environment okay and we agree we're going to do clover which is a great idea instead of the hay clover is hay well the red clover or something clover I mean there's usually they use a conservation mix so it's a bunch of different seeds okay whatever that is because you you suggested and good for you not to use just hay because it helps to spread invasive so whatever it is you're planning to use can you get the name of it so the product that they that they put in with the seed that they spread it's heat treated wood product it's either a wood product or paper it's not hay at all there's no hay it's either it's all you know steamed or whatever wood pulp or paper are you getting on that okay so there's no hay in it the only seed that gets sent out you put it in the mix okay well that's what I'm talking about what I was saying about hay was we're using hay now which comes from whatever field where you can get the hay from right and that would be spreading unknown invasive species so if this mulch doesn't there's no you can you can put whatever seed you want to into it can you spray it on invasive and then you know what it's food grade so the seed there's the engineered seed that the small player is using and I've got the tag that tells that there's some engineer that designed this perfect seed for it it's a conservation mix can you I mean design is just different types of seed mixed in together can you it's a cocktail of seed can you cocktail of seed so what is it like a list of ingredients kind of thing maybe you could photocopy it tells all the different and then I can pass it off to the conservation commission so they have the rest of the information that they wanted sure and then if they have any more questions they can let me know but we were we were good with that we didn't have anything needed to approve not this no no I just wanted to circle back and see if you got it um and make sure we're all good with getting back to the conservation commission with the concerns that they had yeah yeah I mean it's well I think if you if you send me that list of ingredients and then I can send that to them and see if they have any additional questions that makes sense thoughts ideas bye yep many times um okay truck just barely got the 550 back today that was the one with the broken frame yeah the frame was fixed a while ago but then it was the terrible replacement mm-hmm so I just got that back today and now I need to get the dealer to come and value it give us what the trade value is mm-hmm so I'll make that call tomorrow and get incoming so then we'll know what the trade value is to move forward with the new purchase and they're still they're still holding that truck that you asked them to hold correct yes because I know you're working on it I do think we need to move fairly yeah well we're just waiting for you to come out well I know I couldn't get the value no I know while it was in the shop but I know this is how it's going so tomorrow I'll have income for the next day okay see get us a value trade in value so if I put this on the agenda again on the 24th I will have all the info you'll have all the info okay um George Road Grant that was not yet ready right no but we were notified that you will receive it we just have not got the official paperwork so that was a grant for the culvert on George Road and I think the value was 165,000 okay all that stuff you sent ahead of time was really helpful thank you um do we want to is it going to need to be signed before the next select board meeting? no okay alright none of the work can start before July 1st anyways oh that's right the new lease right yep okay so you had a bunch of um other stuff to go through alright we have George Road Grants and Aid for FY20 so there's another round of grants for the work that we normally do that we essentially it's been to get ahead of the municipal road evaluations so this this next year is 21,000 this is this thing that you've sent to us yeah alright and you need to sign that you want to join into the program by July 3rd okay so so this year we've done um Haggett Road and Adamant and that's about $4,000 we'll get of this 18,000 that was this year and we will work this month to get some more of that grant money before it expires on June 30 okay but this Grants and Aid we're talking about now is going to be for FY 20 20 right and and a question I had written down and then I realized I read the answer we can't get reimbursed for the hydroceder right because one of the one of the things that they had here that was one of the options I don't know why we can't they decided it was eligible there's only two towns that were eligible for machinery grants really I don't know what the criteria was alright so we don't need to sign this one that's correct because we're not eligible but you're asking us page 3 page 3 and this would be for what roads now the whole town the whole town okay you were telling us I think what last year's grant was used for so this current year ending on 1030 is $18,500 okay we've only done $4,000 worth of that we will do a bunch more and essentially it's burn removal ditch cleaning road surfacing for crown and replacing colors and if you look at some of the stuff Toby sent us I think it's in the work plan that you're proposing for this right coming summer after July 1 correct no we have to we're in the work season right now right this is for all the stuff we're doing but this is the one you're asking if the sign is for next year next year 20 so the work I have to get done before June 30 is for last year's grant right but I'm talking about the FY19 road work plan that doesn't start it starts now right some of that will be in this FY20 correct correct that's my point okay are we going to use that whole 18 Toby would I don't know it depends on how much we get done before June 30 that's the goal I'm assuming well everything we do right now as far as removing berm and crown and stuff it's all eligible we just have to track it and put it for the grant part of it and we have to identify roads that are connected that we're working on I have a list of the roads that I finally got from some of the regional plans so there's a list that lists the roads there's a database hydrologically connected road or whatever connected roads that are eligible for this grant so there's some roads that we're doing work on we're not eligible to get money so was this used when you did Apple Hill and Woodbury Mountain no that was different that was a class 4 it's a similar road erosion repair grant but it was for a class 4 not for a regular class this is for the regular class 3 road and it says indicate by checking one of the boxes in the anticipated project completion dates I'm assuming you want us to do June 30th of 2020 correct correct and when you figure out what those projects are you let us know for it's just going to be as we go essentially there might be a 600 foot section on one road and a 300 foot section on another road and 800 feet on another road I mean it's just it's where the problems exist that we get reimbursed for they don't exist then we don't get reimbursed okay so do we get when Alfred does these clay boil projects do we get reimbursed for those projects it would depend on if that's a connected road or not it's not connected and it's not having it's not in the in the rated not meeting the standards of the MRGP then no it doesn't count okay because I know this past spring you know the intersection of Moscow Woods and Jack Hill you must have fixed that section at least seven times because of the clay boil so that's why I was asking yeah I mean I don't know of a grant unless we did a class 2 grant if we could take it out of our budget we've done we've done well I was just looking at Toby's work plan and he has Marshfield Road but I don't see Moscow Woods Jack Hill on here so I didn't know if that meant you didn't have time this season at the Moscow Woods area but a clay boil is not necessarily a road erosion issue it's a bad base and moisture in the road it could be there's no stream within 100 feet of the road and so it doesn't qualify for this grant this grant is for connected roads I don't want to hold up time we just need to make a motion to sign this we'd like to make a motion to approve the municipal roads grant and aid program for FY 20 second second okay I'll pass this around for people to sign and then we can give it to Toby vote oh vote yeah all those in favor aye sorry alright there you go FY 20 work plan which is everybody's had a chance to vote about it soon and any questions on the work plan okay and then you wanted to talk about the York rate is it broke it's been broke several times we've had to weld it it was bought when Don Singleton was in charge wow so I will say that's the end 12 years I've used it a lot particularly in the spring I love it when I see the door break out yeah it was a good time yep it helped with the burn because we've been the rate will reach out over the next year mm-hmm not that grass and bull growling so many many values to this rate mm-hmm yeah just because of the edge of it and the strong heat for it yeah we should probably have one a new one a new one what's the cost what's the hardest one cost there about 13,000 and you want to take it out of this year's remaining budget mm-hmm okay so we got we just bought the hydroceder that was 13,000 and we're buying a York rate that's 13,000 mm-hmm so a good follow up is the remaining budget so as of May 30th there was a mean balance in the highway funds $114,000 right say what there was there was one payroll after that date the payroll was $2031 so that number would adjust down a little bit to about $109,000 so essentially for the last month of the year we have $109,000 yeah but we still have payrolls in June right $100,000 how much roughly is a payroll if it's normal hours well we I can honestly tell you I haven't had a 40 hour payroll in months and I just speculate at this point but you don't have a concern that that they're going to go over right there's nothing else coming in for invoices huge invoices for all of their capital expenses have been paid so we're going to have payroll utilities probably diesel any maintenance that comes up I can't foresee that right are we done paying for repairs to the turbo the whatever that the $550 well the turbo was all warranty so I just got the bill today it was $60 oh so you're clear there the frame welding as I got the bill is $700 yes in the orders yeah so it's not a huge expense to us okay I am putting a pile up and I truck some stone to the mix with the sand pile so we'll have that and it's still not okay not done we'll still buy some gravel to do work on the roads that we're going right now so I just want to make sure there'll be excess money at the end of the year okay alright so do anybody have any questions on the your break and approving said purchase is those current one just going to go to the junkyard I mean is it I think we can still use it but the idea is that we could we can modify it so that we could pull it with the pickup also so the older one will modify to use with the pickup so it'll be the second one there are a lot of times that like this whole month we had to use the six wheel which is less than convenient if we had switched over we could have pulled it with the pickup and it would have been much much easier to do so it'll be a spare and it will also be retrofitted so a smaller truck can pull it so we're keeping it yeah we're keeping it we're just retrofitting it to the secondary that makes sense alright so I would make a motion for the purchase of the York rate would you say 13,000? around that's a good rotate yeah approximately 13,000 then I'll modify my motion second any further discussion or questions about you all those in favor please say aye aye okay oh I know I had a question you know the guardrails on the Jack Hill Moscow woods they were supposed to they didn't have enough or something they were supposed to come back and replace it at their absolutely we were supposed to do that I got to go the rails up okay we're going to install them ourselves oh you are okay you know you have a plan? if if I wasn't prepping for a party at the end of this week I could do it this week are you opposed to the party? absolutely not okay then but no I've just been fairly dizzy well I know you can all go there there you go we'll do a psych visit if you want to eat you've got to help put in the guardrail right no there's five pieces of rail that needs to be changed out on this the curved rail they didn't have it when they came in right yeah I remember that so I just wanted to because I just noticed at the other day I was like oh yeah that was supposed to get fixed okay too long enough that you were going rusty I was going to say it they'll turn rusty anyway right anything else on highway? that's good good I know they just fly right in your eyes I don't know how you guys can stand it out there that's not comfortable it goes right on the nose I don't think I've got it alright anything else highway Toby you're good that's it okay alright Alfred you all sat on highway yes thank you Alfred do you want to just take a quick look at Greg's little map here sure this is this is Pekinbrook Road Jack Hill he and Rick Barstow are doing a driveway over here but this bridge he can't cross with his tri-axle so he wants to put three loads of three-quarter inch black ledge on Friday and then they're going to work on that Saturday sure and he said if there's anything left you could just yes just go like that like I said if he's leaving it overnight just put some cones yeah put some cones so somebody don't want to yep very good thank you thanks alright alright Cliff IT RFP do you want this Toby yep so here is the timeline that was published in the RFP vendors who responded or under the impression that we're going to probably our goal was by the end of the month to award someone so given that I was out of commission there for a little while we didn't get to meet and have a chance to go over the pluses and minuses of each of the responses as we had planned so we wanted to put this on the agenda for tonight so that we could let everybody have an opportunity to weigh in to see if we could schedule something if we would prefer to push out we have the option to do that the award any actually any part of it because of the way the RFP is written we have the ability to change the timeline I have had at least two vendors contact me and say hey how's it going and I said okay well we had set back a little bit but we'll be talking about it tonight I would like to be able to reach out to all of the vendors who responded I'd like to be able to reach out to them this week and just say we're on track or we're changing our schedule well basically we talked about we talked about I talked to Cliff and he said that the RFP was like a hundred and eighty days and we wanted to wait until we had this meeting tonight okay so they have not heard from any not no other than other than you know like I say a couple of informal emails just asking how it's going I decided to wait until but the RFP heard the terms and conditions any proposal submitted unless they made a change to it prior to the close of the RFP whatever they proposed would carry a validity period of a hundred and eighty days so do we still want to do this rating system thing right? exactly and I am I was hoping to have it done but due to other requirements that were going to just kind of major burnout on computers especially working in limited capacity but this is kind of what it's going to look like yeah and it'll be simple you don't have to be really technically proficient you're just looking at them and saying yeah they did a pretty good job of responding to that question or no I didn't like how this one did it it would be a simple rating system and then my presentation will cover in a little detail some of the more technical aspects and considerations as well as where I see you know the strengths weaknesses opportunities and threats from each of the proposals that we have received so the only date line that we're off is this June 10th which is today which was to select vendors select vendors to make a presentation so we just now need to see we need to have a special meeting do you want to do it at a regular meeting as you can see our agendas get really full that's why we previously said we would do a separate meeting that was originally scheduled the third we had to cancel that one so do you want to try to do a special meeting in between tonight and the next select board meeting what's people's schedules like what do you want to do what about you you all were wonderful you were covering for me so I will make myself available whenever the board decides why do I think there's what is what's on the set there's the can there's the CES school board meeting about the use agreement and easement and all that that I really would like to go to that's on the 17th of June which is the next Monday and I'm trying to think what's on the 18th is the school board not on that calendar I'm looking at this calendar they're not on our calendar they're not I don't think so I've never seen them on there Planning Commission has this office on the 18th I wonder if we could meet how noisy do you think we would be if we're just the four or five of us discussing we want the screen we want the screen I have a meeting on the 18th and I have a meeting on the 19th and another one on the 26th the last two Wednesdays of every month could we do we think we could cover this in an hour and do a special meeting on the 24th in advance of our regular meeting we could try that how are people scheduled for six o'clock on the 24th I could do it I could do that you can alright let's do that good idea six o'clock on the 24th to do the rating system review review and then we can let send out this scorecard to everybody this week so you can start can you just scroll down so we can kind of get a sense of the whole thing put oh yeah yeah yeah let me go back yup here it is looking at the company looking at their proposal how well do they seemingly understand what we're looking for how complete did they respond to our requirements do we get a sense of their ability to fulfill those requirements yeah do we think they're what they're offering is viable realistic yup and I would like to know right and the office staff is going to do the same thing right yes rating I've looked through and made some notes but I can go through this systematic approach right yeah I'm not sure on the 24th the election is the next day we'll be working right but at least you guys can do the the scorecard we can do the scorecard and kind of give you our could well could Santa do it because it would actually be really nice to have one of you guys will be talking about it but have one of them here to actually talk with us so we're really very all the way I don't know if Santa will be available I've got six on the 24th here on the 24th right isn't that what you're talking about right yeah I haven't only been texting on the 24th so are you available at six I don't think it would be really nice yeah as an alternative well this I think the 24th makes the most sense because people on Monday blocked off anyway no about alternative I mean okay if you can be there great if not what I was going to suggest is I could do the presentation and I in a meeting with the staff the staff on the Thursday yeah well Santa's going to be here that night anyways so Santa's going to be here I don't think we could do that I would really like to have this feel so important for you for you guys and we have to make it the same so it feels like you know bring you right to the table yeah yeah they've been involved there's some chairs over here that you're welcome to sit oh somebody over there thank you yeah the people from you see them coming in they're stuck in yep sorry we're running late guys what a surprise alright so would you I think we maybe need to let the vendors that apply if you could contact them now that we have a new schedule yeah we had to revise their schedule but we imagine so we might have them come in and we have a select couple we want to talk to I guess that would be the next question then would be the July meeting we probably want to push out the award date if we're not going to be able to go where this is a board until the 24th at that meeting we may decide we really like these guys but we want to hear from them directly right we might have a couple we want to call in right so I think we have to push out the award date right and that's the first meeting in July is the 8th so if we so we could do and given our select board agendas lately it might be wise to think about doing that on the 8th at 6 o'clock we're going to have special vendors come in to talk about their pitch yeah I would say we need to see how many vendors we'd want to talk to right and also it's depending upon their real ability right right well you know they probably will make themselves available I hope so you know all things considered if they have to possibly can I know there's some that would they would be there no matter what there's others that might have conflicts they will take that into consideration but if we can let them know this new schedule yep and you'll take care of that yep if we're talking about an hour for human for two to prevent that really tight yeah that's what you're saying yeah well we could do 6 to 7 30 or something I just don't want to maybe just set aside the 8th is a potential date to talk to these people because yeah I get that I just want to make there's something urgent that comes up or something critical we have some time on the select board agenda to address other issues yeah yeah I agree with that Denise but also we cannot plan to have them generally you know not in the not in the yeah but I'm just saying there might be things that actually have to get done so I don't because that's the first meeting of the new system year so just so should we say 6 o'clock on the 8th well let's say right what I'll say is that vendors is that we will have another round of review of the responses on the 24th at that point we may well identify vendors that we want to have come make presentations and if we decide to do that we will advise them of the schedule after that yeah okay alright that makes sense because we may we may say hey there's going to make the right if you let the line right opportunity okay that sounds great thank you very much I know you but in significant pains I appreciate your work on it alright are we done with IT anything else um I don't have anything else anybody else have any other questions about IT stuff audience Sandra you're up Madam Treasurer good to see you in person and you as well sorry this is got bogged down but that's the late work that's fine so we um are reviewing the financial position of the of the town as of May 31st 2019 um here's her that is um thank you oh that's the numeric audit that's fine and then the report that I'm going to talk about is right behind that so and um can we talk about anything thank you so we'll talk first about the general government we have collected a little over 95% of our we have collected a little over 95% of our budgeted revenues um with regard to our at most of um the 5% or so that we haven't collected our mostly del delinquent tax delinquent taxes which we'll talk about more at our meeting on the 24th um we have expensed about 84% of our budgeted expenditures as of May 31st as of May 31st so uh budgeted expenses are on target I mean we are at the 91 we're at the 11th month of our fiscal year and we should be at about 91% of our budget so we're at 84% of our budget which is surprise right we'll commit all that highway hearing well we're talking about general government because general government is completely segregated from highway never mind so we're concerned that we might come up short well the analysis piece of this is while we are probably not going to exceed our budgeted expenditures our revenues are less than what is budgeted and the projection at this point is that for the general government side we're probably going to hit a deficit between $20,000 and $30,000 so we have um in our general government fund a little bit more than $100,000 to cover the expenses through June 30 however we have two large payments in excess of $100,000 plus interest that are due June 30 plus payrolls utilities and everyday stuff all the everyday stuff yeah so that's kind of the projection is that dire no we will probably we're going to end the year I would say in good shape we began this fiscal year with an excess of $300,000 in our fund I don't think we will have or end FY19 in in as good shape as we came into it but we won't be much below it is what I is what I think at this point in time um so we should have enough money to flow our expenses and grant expenses our budgeted FY20 expenses expenses until the tax effort begins the tricky thing with the tax effort is that is delayed about a month this year because of the merger so typically we begin our tax bills are due early in September but tax money begins to come in say in August this year bills will not are not likely to go out until the end or the beginning of October and it is unlikely that we are going to see tax payments come in because simply the bills are just the tax payments are going to be unknown until the vote on those budgets though isn't until June 25th so the upcoming election is to vote on that budget and just as with all budgets there is a 30 day period of time where a petition can be raised to look at the budget again so the best case scenario is on July 25th we we're not going to re-vote that budget the budget will go to the state for development of the district-wide tax rate that takes about a month I'm told Lori Bebo from the business director at the district level said it takes them about a month so that brings us to August 25th that's about five or takes me about five, six days to process tax bills there are are we going to have a tax bill stuff in part of you? yes of course so we sent out in excess of a thousand tax bills that includes the duplicates the that go to various owners and to escrow and to escrow companies so it will take us about five or six days to process tax bills so that brings us to September 25th September 25th wait no June 25th to July 25th July 25th to August 25th the bills will go out early in September and by statute we cannot require payment less than 30 days after the mailing date so we're really looking at the end of September the beginning of October for the first payment the second payment won't be in due until November 15th now the good news is that's a common normal day that's a two weeks apart there will be about six weeks apart so November 15th date is a that's your standard date that's our standard date your last date so the good news is that it appears as of this moment unless we have to re-vote that budget that we will not require a town meeting to change the way we collect our taxes we can still do two equal payments we can still require payment of the first payment not less than 30 days after the bill date and the second installment on November 15th if there is a delay if the budget is re-voted we may want to rethink I'm just planning the seed a strategy for getting tax money and sooner we fall back to a tax a note and answer and I know the taxes the way we in the town report with the collection some towns put in their warnings the dates already that they were going to have to collect taxes by ours is open to this 30 day so lucky for us we are ahead in that game we don't have to have a special town meeting to change the data the taxes unless we get some other kind of loop but there's a few towns that have to have a special town meeting to re-warn those articles because they put in specific collection dates for taxes and now they can they can't meet those dates I don't like how the dates are too close you can't do anything about it but I just thought I would say that we're glad to have your opinion Madam Chappelle Chuck I think that there's a lot of phone calls and people aren't happy about that and complaining we are anticipating that however this is not the taxes are they still have to pay their taxes whether it's two and a half months apart or one and a half months apart the obligation of ownership requires the payment out of taxes or our control really maybe just as a public service maybe we should put something on our porch form that says there's so many different changes that are happening usually it's all after the vote on the 25th yeah the 25th usually you know we pay taxes in August in November the advice this year with the determination as to why so that we get that ahead of the game I think that's a really good idea and the reminder the timing doesn't change the timing doesn't change the amount right and because we approved the November 15th deadline at town meeting day that is not subject to change because some people I could envision saying well the first one was late so why couldn't we pay the second one like after Christmas or something but so we just need to well folks are going to have all kinds of ideas about how this is a great part to them but really it's a payment that needs to be made it's going to be and it's going to be higher than last year because that's the way the tax rates are going and they're going to have to pay it in a closer defined period of time I do plan on going out on from porch form but I want to see how the vote goes on June 25th as it passes there would be one message and if it fails I think there would be another message and at that point probably the select board really would want to take a look at what we might want to do in response if that budget fails and we're still going to be kind of in a holding pattern to see if the budget will hold after 30 days so just a heads up highway capital expenses are really stacked up in August and September so a lot of their capital equipment payments are in that section of time of course anticipating tax money coming in and so you know we'll have to we'll have to see how it plays out again we're going to go we're not going in with a deficit we're going in with a fund balance that's going to carry us far how long is we're going to have to wait and I gotta say there's a lot of towns are in this same pickle oh yes you know we're not we're not alone in this there's four other towns well in this in this particular pickle barrel yeah but like I said at least we don't have to do a special town meeting in between all this stuff to change the dates and when the dates are good not yet that's not on the horizon that's not and I think a requirement yet we might also think about putting in when the first tax bill comes out the tax bill comes out putting in some kind of a bright neon orange insert letting people know about the difference in the dates and why the tax bill just as an aside and I know it's late and I just want to move on but the tax bill is going to rather than the breakdown stacking on top of one another town local school with a town local school with the total due the state payment if there is one reduced and then the net due which kind of is neat and tidy in my mind it's going to have the municipal education portion of the tax bill on the right with the amount due and then in a little box also on the right there they'll add up those two gross numbers add up the two state payments oftentimes the state property tax adjustment credit is split between local and school taxes add that up and then there is a little box where taxes due and then your little and then your your stubs it's really I looked at that thing online that they sent out it's really an unattracted bill it's not intuitive for your less sophisticated taxpayers I think it's going to be a struggle I want to work with our printer and see if I'll probably highlight with a strip of highlight in that box of the net tax due is my vision to make it try to make it easier to really try and jump it out so there's a lot of moving pieces this year what does it translate into you know more delinquent taxes heavier than the normal delinquent tax and will be really busy answering questions so well you know we're going to get through it it's a one off and next year will probably be a more normal tax collection season highway we talked about that earlier I'm not going to beat that stick they have $109,408 going into the bottom and going into this last month they're in great shape they should not go go over their over their budget in terms of budgeted expenditures by 2% which is interesting because they're that the entire winter season is showing up now now we're seeing how that budget was cantilevered over so they're expenditures are over so they're in the reverse situation of general no over of course but their revenues are so their projected revenues were so much under what actually came in because of grant reimbursements from prior years that they are they are coming in to the end of the year in the black big time and they will likely have a surplus of cemetery cemetery cemetery cemetery budget I don't really keep a track of the cemetery budget and it's not on here they keep track of their own budget okay so how many surprises that we know of they at this point in time they're not over budget but yet I have no idea what's coming in from them ever you just never know what's coming over the email nothing good anything oh the balance sheet we want to do that that should be right so everybody save this report for next meeting with the delinquent tax stuff on it okay so the balance sheet has us this is a recap we have over $900,000 in assets most of which is in the checking account roughly $480,000 is committed to other funds and we talked about those other funds and there's a list behind your balance sheet that shows what those other funds are the town hall renovation project has $27,000 going into this last month and I believe they were planning to come in and ask the board to allow for the use of town hall fund reserve to fund whatever balance of that project we approve $10,000 last meeting okay thank you bless you thank you our current liabilities of $12,000 is roughly all due to the overpayment of 2018 taxes which will be credited on the 2019 tax bills and pardon me bless you and pay 2019 taxes um our current year fund balance as I said before is in excess of $100,000 a titch in excess of $100,000 if this were the end of the year if May 31 was the end of our fiscal year we would be rolling into fiscal year 20 with $418,000 to the good now that won't happen it's going to be probably June 30 June 30 maybe $120,000 $130,000 less than that but nevertheless we still have a balance we look we're definitely still going to have a fund we will have out of that you know there will be rollovers the highway surplus we'll roll over cemetery surplus and they are they do they do they're not in a deficit and now they know the ability to roll that over into a reserve fund so that's good not to belabor the delinquent tax report we have 66 almost $67,000 in delinquent taxes still outstanding if we had that we wouldn't so if that came in even half of that between now and 30 we may not have any deficit whatsoever so you do the existing delinquent tax list behind that report and next month I'll come in and hopefully that will be down by half but and at some point you'll come in with all of the ones that are like 89 cents and 53 cents and we'll just you know do a whole slate all at once correct? mhm okay so I won't say that I did send the certified letters out and for them most part the taxpayers did not pick them up I didn't figure they would so that yes mhm so that was an expensive proposition and honestly I wouldn't recommend that again they don't pick them up they don't pick them up what's we've done certified letters before and Nadine has done them and same thing it was good because first-class mail does not get returned they're just simply not picking them up I think the clear you don't have to pick them up no you do not so the message is yeah I know I haven't paid mhm and I don't want to know what you're going to tell me next I think so definitely I want them to get their first-class letter that's going to go out and the next two or three days to the various classes of folks and say to those of you who haven't called or paid that payment has to be and by June 30th or we're going to be turning the parcel over to the tax attorney for tax sale yeah okay we'll talk about that more right so that's a better idea maybe some of these magically will get paid and what let's think that maybe they will yeah positive thinking that will be what to talk about our next step and the next meeting right Sullivan and Powders they're all good to go everybody's I've pretty much read this sure everybody else has as well it's their standard engagement letter Sandra checked it against the letter from the last time and it's just you know it's basically the same amount the same 14,000 14,000 I think it's on the last page 900 or 700 14,000 I think it's yeah 14,000 and that's what we've budgeted for they will be doing the audit on FY19 on July 18th and July 19th that's a Thursday and a Friday okay so we should be well prepared for that and that's how that's going to go and hopefully because it's so early you will have that information by the end of September and you know before you begin your budget you'll be informed by that before you begin your budgeting process it'd be really nice to have that and they were finding work with last year they came and did a presentation it was very helpful we've got Cynthia on board now doing the monthly audit reconciliation so that they mentioned in their management letter so we should be good in that sense now well what yes and she's audited May and excuse me she's audited April and she's audited May she did that today and no in April there were a lot of tweaks that had to be made to the system there were some those are first month so all of that has been done in May really she did all the reconciliations and she had no notes I didn't have anything to follow up with and we spent time there was a couple of there a couple of data points that needed to be corrected I transposed a couple of numbers so we ran that down we confirmed that that was a transposition and then we talked about how we're going to close out the year and get the software in good shape for the audit so you're so this is working out okay for you with Cynthia yes it's very useful okay very good did you send this to us I'm trying to tell you to see it now she didn't did I did I send I think I did does that look familiar I didn't look at it I just think I did I think it's right in the folder it was the last one when I said oh one more one more thing oh yeah maybe Katie just has oh I wonder if the internet wasn't you know our internet went down did your internet go down the internet's been going down on a lot they had it on the news one night that 80,000 customers were just like hello I'm trying to get stuff done this is when I was working on the agenda trying to get it out the internet went down it went down sometime after four o'clock today well maybe it flipped up before it it is in line it's in here in in here in it says it's there in some May 19th Nimrick it went in right before six oh there it is there it is okay perfect I got it then we're good then it's in public too so I'm good okay good thank you madam alright any questions on Sullivan and Powers need a motion to approve the engagement in one of the Sullivan and Powers for the FY what do I call it the FY 19 audits second alright is there any further discussion although it's a favor please say hi hi I'll pass this around for folks to sign this audit will be there if we need a tax anticipation note although you haven't had audits in the past and you certainly have been able to get your tax anticipation note but this just really will make that easy easy okay it's just really they ask for they ask for the audits oh yes they ask for the audits you just send them the PDF and that's pretty much there's two sets they're in sign okay okay anything else madam churcher they're no not at the moment no thank you we'll let you go home thank you sorry for the delay that's all fine I didn't know some of the discussion she's going to take some off we should know better someday I'll learn thanks for that thanks thank you so do you want should I just leave these yeah I'll take them and I will we'll get them off into our smell well we're waiting for sharing the handles over to Sandra Rose thank you for coming with me last year hearing oh it was it was very my pleasure yes yes okay so now you know what I've been going through you didn't miss anything thank you I'm sorry you couldn't make it you weren't happy anyways the hearing is closed as of as of May 30th the hearing is closed they have 45 days in which they issue their decision I'm sorry Judy did you have anything just that on the 25th there's two you can see them unless it's hosted out there and at Maple Corner and East Calus and on the web and you'll let us know what you need help with you may need some JT help elections here yeah it's well yeah it's the vote and it's going to be with the tabulator and 7-7 on the 25th again the budget is The budget is on one ballot and the amendment to the article of agreement, even though most people probably don't know the original article. Yeah, I was gonna say most people don't even know what they're voting on. So, it's, there'll be lots of questions that I'm gonna bear them toward the school. Yes, there should. They're the ones with the teachers. Thank you. All right, thank you. Thank you. Thanks. That brings me to the 17th, which is that meeting at the Cal's Elementary School starts at six, where they're gonna vote on those documents. Remember, Jim drafted those documents, they gave them to the school, the school hired a separate attorney rather than one that already works with the school district. That was, anyways, we'll go over that. But, Brian Monaghan reviewed the documents. He's talked to Jim. I'm waiting, I gotta catch up with Dot. I'm gonna ask her to send me the documents that they're gonna be looking at. Does anybody else want me to email them to them when I get them from Dot? Do we have to go to this meeting? No, you don't. Okay. No, no, no. I'm going because I've been to the other ones about this. So, I know of no updates on Sentinel-Mount Regional Planning Commission stuff, other than that there's a meeting Thursday night that Jan has to go to. So, some kind of a special kind of a meeting. So, she's going and she can't come to the other thing on Thursday night. Wouldbury Fire Department. Anybody here from Woodbury Fire Department? Oh, Troopers. Sorry, I'm so sorry. I need to make people wait and you know, you got to get up in the morning and apologize. Thank you. So, you're here because we have a new contract here coming up. Yes, ma'am. And the new contract includes the amount that was voted on at town meeting the, was it 31? Can I stand up? Good night. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be catching up with you. Thank you. It's your first Thursday. What's your case for my legal fair needs? My name is Chance. Who is? My name is T.D. And this is Emil. Thanks. So, here we are. I know I have my, here it is. There it is. So, really the only thing in the contract that changed is the increased amount based on the budget vote at town meeting. Correct? Correct. Everything else is the same, at least it looked like it was. Yes, ma'am. Try to keep it simple. Right, yeah, let's do that. July 1st through June 30th of 2020. That's why we're doing this now. Anything else significant? It doesn't mean it's pretty straightforward standard contract. So, we'll sign off on this and then you'll sign it and send us back a signed copy for our file, correct? Well, I was gonna say I took the liberty of having Paul sign last night because he was gonna be out of town. So, if you guys wanted to sign, I can sign that you can take a copy while we're here. Oh, okay, we can do that. Keep it even simpler. And when is this, what's the first payment due? We bill it out for July 1st. So, we won't have to pay it till we get into the new fiscal year. Correct. Okay, all right. Anybody have any questions on the Woodbury Fire Department contract or Woodbury Fire Department at all? So, the truck replacement fund, the $31,000, even though it's in the contract, like, so what's gonna happen next year at town meeting? Will we have that same amount or whatever we vote on next March, we'll see in this contract next June for the following year or is it always gonna be that amount? It's gonna be that amount. It's gonna be that amount. I think that's what we voted on at town. Yep. It's gonna be the $31,000. Oh, yeah. Those memories are foggy. Well, there's a lot of things between now and then. Right, yeah. So, yeah, the $31,000 was breaking out the cost over the life of the 20-year plan because of the different trucks and the self-contained breathing apparatus. Right, right, SCBA. Yeah, all the costs were built into that. We know some of that. I know, right? That kind of stuff, right? And I was drawn to blank myself. SCBA, I don't know what that is. I tried not to talk in the alphabet soup, you know, my day-to-day job and then the fire department, I ended up talking in code. Yeah, so that's the $31,000. The one thing that was gonna change is in five years when we finish paying off the two trucks that we had loans on, that will get rid of the $17,850. Right. So, yes. That'll be the only change. So that's two more years of the $17,850? This year, and then one more time? No, five years. Oh, five, I'm sorry. Five years is the life of the loans on those, right, those will be done. Okay. Yeah, so the payments are due quarterly. Yeah. Anybody like to make a motion to approve the new contract for FY? It's beginning of FY 20. So move. And the amount of, as presented by chance, pay up. Okay. There's, okay. Thank you for this question. There's my goal on this. Okay, good, where? On page two, the header. Oh, right there, 17, 18. Oh, you're right. Can you just do that on Mark on here? Yeah. And we can sign it and I can get copies for us and for you. You're right. Glad you know the year. Good catch. It's so easy when it's old way to play, right? Yeah. Apparently not. Yeah. All right. Second. All right. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. And your foes, hearing none. We're gonna pass it around. I assume we're gonna meet at some point. Yeah, we actually have another meeting this Thursday with the architects and I'm not sure if this is gonna be the last one for the fire department or if there will be one more after that. But soon as that's determined, we'll give everybody a month notice so we can. I was gonna say, my one, the rest of June is already checker block full. We have to warn the meetings now because we have Paul, who's a select board member, is our chief and we invited a select board member from each town so it doesn't want to come. Select board now. Yeah, he's got elected. Yeah. Good. He's enjoying that. I know I was gonna say like Paul means more to do. But I gotta say you guys are really great to work with. I really appreciate the attitudes and flexibility, flexibility, I think it goes a lot that way. All right, so I just want to, I know I've told you that before, but I just wanted to interact with you guys as we really appreciate it. Can you have a copy? Oh, no, over here in the copy machine. Thank you. Yeah, and just FYI, I didn't get a chance back in March, but I'd like to thank the board as well for their support at town meeting and the townspeople definitely showed their support. So you know, shout out to the townspeople as well. Yeah, I want you to meet Nick. He's our Assistant Emergency Management Director. We're gonna be approving our LAOP, hopefully tonight, and we're already with him. Yeah, we met at one of the trainings they had. Oh, okay. So we put you guys, and you just went to the fire department in our plan. Oh, yes. So I'm assuming Nick's got all the numbers he needs or whatever. I would like to steal Nick's number before I leave because I probably could update him with some numbers. Just to make sure we're all out. LAOP is up, just enough that all the new numbers. Yeah. Can Nick? So you got a copy of that? I don't know, just write it right on the, what? My number? Yes. That's it, right? So, has yours changed? It will be. I just switched over to a first-nap phone. Stay tuned. We don't know how it works really, but it's sitting in its case still because I don't have a protective case for it. Oh, okay. You got a new phone, but you didn't keep your old number? For first-nap, you have to change. When you sign up, it's the new 14 band for first responders. So I had to get a new number for that. So I'm keeping my old number on my regular phone and then the first-nap phone has a new number. Good idea. Yeah. Good, then it will all be in our plan, so we'll have that information for you. Exactly. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you, see you. Thank you. Have a good night. Thanks for waiting. Yes, thank you. We didn't even have any cookies and milk to get the right way in. I'm so sorry. Paul wasn't here. He's the cookie minister. Thank you very much. Thank you. That's why Nick's here with the patients of the scene. I know. You got here at like quarter of seven or something. Thank you. Come join us. Yes. So what I'm hoping we can do is kind of go through this. I'm the one that's behind Nick's been very diligent in bugging me, although some of your emails, I don't think I ever got, because you said, I was like, oh, really? I don't remember that. Anyways, this is what we need to do. We need to update this. I had some questions about some of the things which I asked Nick. And I'm hoping what we can do tonight is to go through this. Check and see if anybody else has any questions. And then authorize Nick and I to finish working on it and sign it and submit it. Goes to the regional planning commission. So you scroll through, which I think. Oh, that's his back up a little bit. Oh, why are you backing up? Elizabeth Casey. I asked Nick, I said, who is Elizabeth Casey? Elizabeth. I bought the house across from Maple Corner. The one that Steve Kusek used to own. Yes. She does Airbnb out of her home. She works for the Vermont Department of Environmental Conservation. She has a background in communications. And it just, I was sitting across having an email with her and I said, are you interested in being a public information officer? Because it's kind of a glaring admission in our emergency operations. Yeah, great. And she said, tell me more about it. Yeah, so I need to have more conversation with her. But she. But we need to appoint her too. And so it's a recommendation that's why I'm on there. Yeah, well, I was thinking she was. Tell her to come and meet us. We'd like to know new people. OK, OK. Yeah. Yeah, I'll put her on the agenda for hopefully the 24th to appoint her as our public information officer. If you can get me her contact. I will do that. OK. She seems like a real steady field of ground kind of person. I mean, great work on your part. Grab on when you can. Wonderful. OK, so Nick will fill in. I think we should fill in some, unless it's someplace else. I don't know how we find out, like, Nick's contact info, her contact info. We should put it in here. Yeah, it has to all go there. It's on another page at the start. And do you want to have, if you could scroll up a moment, if you want to have an alternate location for the emergency operation center, we have the Cal Cemetery School. Do you also want to have the town garage as a backup? Well, that was one of the things I suggested is that maybe we should have the town garage as, I think that was one of my comments that you can't see. So good. And you and I can do this stuff. We want to take a meeting time on this one. Because the town garage has all the heavy equipment. They have the radios. It just seemed to me maybe we should have a secondary. That's great. Only if we needed it. And just, so Denise, we don't have to take your meeting time given the hour to go through this. Well, I just wanted to see if the board members had any questions. Is that taking long or cruising? Well, Denise, who's your comment, it's just because I haven't seen a large table. Yeah, these are all the comments I sent to Nick. I think I filled in all the information as much as I knew. Denise, I'll put that in there. Yeah, the comment too about the town hall. Right, when the town hall is done, we plan to use that as an additional center. And I'm hoping that it would be for people with pets. And we're going to have a generator eventually. We have money to buy one. You've added one very, I think, I wonder if we should add chances to contact in there somewhere too, just in case we can't get a hold of all. Yes, and so this is the short form. There's also a long form, which is a lot more information that I've entered. And I think, Jane, I'll double check. Yeah, I mean, this is the one that I'm going to have in my book if I ever need it, which I have had to use it before, but not often. Yeah, I'll put a chance on that. Anybody have any thoughts on? Jim Orirdin, electrical contractor? This, that's just a almost nearly random list of local resources. Local resources. He's a plumber. Yeah, he is a plumber. Who's an electrician? Coleman. Dan Cohen. Dan Cohen. Dan Cohen. Is this another Calis? Jim Orirdin does. No, no, no, I'm Dan Cowan. I don't know. I think he, I think he's so. Brian Evans. C.O. Brian Evans. Brian Evans, he's local. He's a young Brian Evans company. I'll find out. He's an electrician. He's electric. And why not her to have a calmer listed? And the ATV Snowmobile Club, isn't that Steve Gray? Yeah, that's in one of my comments. Instead of Jason Fielder? Great, Steve, G-R-E-Y? G-R-A-Y. Steve Gray, on Max Gray Road. Thank you. I mean, these are just some little general resources, which is handy to have in an emergency. And then, is there another place where we have health care people? What do you mean? Oh, the J. Copping. Tell them I'm a health officer. But we do have health officers. Yeah, J. Copping is our health officer. He's a health officer. Yeah, you have him on there. The Maria Resign. Right. And, oh, that was the other thing. I don't know if we have a way to contact. What's those people on the hill in Maple Corner with them? It's a great suggestion. Malone. Pat Malone. If we could put him down, I think there was an emergency. He has a helicopter. I know someone who could have that conversation with him. So we'll follow up on that. If there's an encounter in the long form, we have many more local resources listed. Which is also in the school drive folder. Yep. And these are the required by the feds. Yeah. Toby, I did not do any work on that. Toby did all of that, I think. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of his area. Oh, what was Denise's kind of that? Oh, phone numbers. I think it's on the next page. Oh, the next page? Coming down. And I put them in. Yeah, and they put them in. We've got cat bears. The school number, home number, and your cell number. Because recently, when we had a power outage, just past winter. And the power was out for at least for a couple of days. And I'm thinking, oh, we might have to open up to school as an emergency shelter because it's got the generator. And I was going around trying to find cat's home phone number. Oh. That's what made you think of that. So the town hall isn't ready yet. I don't think, I think we can put it, I think we put it on there. No, I think we just leave it on there, but we don't have any information yet because it's not done. I'll continue. Yeah. One comment when I just saw the thing for Red Cross. I remember many, many years ago, there was something with the American Red Cross and they had a form or something that the select board had to fill out. And the town, I guess we didn't know we had to do that and name them as a regional person working with us. And so is there any way that you could just verify that we're in good standing with the Red Cross? Well, this is a contract. We should sign a contract with them that spells out. Yeah, so. There's no financial. Right. But I'm just saying. Yes. It doesn't come across the select board. That would be great, Nick. So we want to formalize our understanding. Yeah, formalize what it was. It was when the animate dam. Yeah. And because the Red Cross brought in peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Yeah. Good. Yeah. That was on that list. Yeah, there's. I remember the years ago, there was something about we weren't formally associated with them. And it needs to be updated every year. Yeah. And we'll follow up on that. Okay, here's all of the other phone numbers. And animal control is on here somewhere. And Elizabeth Perry is the assistant. I added her name. You got her name? Okay. Very good. And we just need a phone number clip. What's the phone number to use? Oh, for. Oh, I don't know Elizabeth Perry's phone number. 256308. Oh, okay. This is like. This is how. Thanks. Thank you. I can give you the email address as well. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Call us. Call us ACO. Okay. And gmail.com. And what's the phone number again? 225. Yeah. 6308. Yes. All right. So with the select board. Consider approving. Authorizing. Nick and I to finalize it and get it submitted. There's actually a form that needs to be signed. Right. If you want. Let's finalize it first. Okay. Second. Okay. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Can I mention one thing? There's many initiatives. But we have a bare bones emergency management plan. And that's fine. But there are some really creative and useful ways we could build out the plan for gals. And I saw talking to Denise about those. And I want to make sure. And you've gone to some trainings, which is great. Yeah, I've gone to some trainings. But one of them I just, for example, want to mention right away. This is. It's gets which stands for government emergency telecommunications services. And what it does is it's, there's no cost, but you can town can send in up to, you know, 10 names of town officials and people who when there's an emergency, a regional emergency and telecommunication services get congested. And everyone's trying to call grandma and nobody can get through because you get bumped to the front. The people that get bumped to the front. So you can get through. And I suggest that we do this. Unless anyone sees anywhere. No, I don't see there's any downside to that at all. So they needed a designated point of contact. It could matter. I don't know if that matters who that is, but we need to designate someone. We can figure that out. Okay. But there's lots of cool stuff. There is a lot of cool stuff. Especially technology. Yeah. Well, and you've gone to a couple trainings and Nick's got the time to really jump into this, which is really great. So thank you very much. Thanks for doing that. Just keep bugging me. Okay. And a lot of it is finding people, recruiting people to do little projects. Right. The one thought on the, on the contact, Denise, I would, you may not be thinking about yourself, but you're going to be inundated with people in town trying to talk to you. So somebody who was a little freer to. Well, my, yeah, that's a good thought. When we talk about that, um, that list, let's think about, you know, who. What you said is that designate single. Oh, they only need a point of contact to set this up. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. And then there's a dozen people on the list who get the priority. No, I understand. Yeah. That I understood. But I thought, okay. So that's just for setting it up. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay. If you want me to be that person. Probably. So we don't take up any more. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. I'm usually, I'm usually. Thanks for sitting. Oh, sure. Really long meeting. Yes. It was entertaining. Informative. It was mind boggling how much work you're doing. You have to be a little schizophrenic. Whatever it takes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm usually, I'm usually here on like every other Thursday or so. Maybe we can set up a Thursday time. Not, not this Thursday. I'm not, I'm going to, I'm not doing town hall this Thursday. We have our dinner. Yeah. Coming too. And the drums coming too. So I'm going to skip the town hall meeting because I'm going to be busy. All right. But we'll figure it out. Good. Thank you. Thanks, man. All right. I have a few updates from things that I've been working on. You know about the appreciation dinner. Tom McCombe. We call it covered libraries retiring. And he's got, there's two women there that are going to take his job and they've worked it out with the board of directors as co-directors. And Tom McCombe. I think I sent you his email, right? I've boarded his email and it's in the Google folder where he thanks us and he, he made a huge difference in the communication with the library from previous directors to when he took over was just so wonderful. He made a huge difference in the, in a good communication effort. Town office roof repairs, that's still going. I still like give Andy a little prod every little while because we want to get it done. He's concerned that there's rot underneath the roof and he doesn't want to have somebody getting here to replace the roof. And then it's rotted. He's got one estimate so far. He's waiting for a couple more of the email that. Yeah, he said someone from Groton was going to look at it. Yeah. The last email I had with him, I had Katie put it in the folder. The traffic ordinance Katie has been working diligently. She had trouble getting some information. Do you have it all now? I think you might. Yeah. So maybe we'll, we might be able to do that on the 24th. You heard about the ballot vote June 25th. You remember Central Vermont Regional Planning Commission was doing this road erosion inventory. They have a draft available and they want to meet with like Toby, Alfred, me, maybe Cliffs around. We do it on a Thursday to go over the draft and then after the draft is done, then they would come into a full presentation to the full board. Pam and Dan for you. Yep. Yep. So if you guys are okay with that set up, we can tell them to continue because they really want to move along. Yeah, I read that. Yeah. I didn't read the whole report. I was like, oh I started to and then I got my eyes started to glaze over. Right. Just going to grab some assurance. Yeah, minutes unless there's any other questions about stuff. Any other questions? Mm-hmm. Right. Minutes. April 11th. April 11th. April 11th. Yeah, I think we're all set with those. I noticed you made some comments. I made some comments. Cliff made a comment. I think we're... Okay, Phil, I meant to look specifically for filling that first down some gap. Oh, I got it. You put that in. Yeah. I'm sorry. Just don't pop it up that way. Yep, so I put that in. Did you notice that I put it right in the document? Are you impressed? I didn't go in today, I forgot to go in. But I am impressed with you. Thank you. You found the little pencil up there. I did. I did notice when I opened one document it was in a different place, it was weird. The pencil? Maybe that's why I couldn't find it. It wasn't a pencil, it was something different, but I found it. So unless anybody else has any other changes or whatever, we could accept the changes? I think we've read them so many times. Well, you know what? These minutes are really important. Yeah, really important. Oh, absolutely. They have to be right. Right. I didn't read them again, but I know I read them carefully. Right here changes. I put in the Bruce Johnson comment, the one that I emailed, everybody what he said. And I put it in exactly as he said it. That was awesome. But it was what he said. All right, so to me, so if we can accept those changes, Katie, we can approve these minutes with a motion? So moved. Is there a second? Second. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Okay, the next one's on our last meeting. Right, which I will recuse myself since it's not there. Great. Yeah, you can do it. I often recuse myself. Well, of course, I don't miss it. You were here in spirit. You were. We knew you would have rather been here than flat on your back at all. Right. Yeah, I looked at your comments. They looked fine to me. There was one thing about the road thing and Greg gave about the broken truck frame and Greg gave Alfred and there it is. Instead of VOT, it's DOT, Department of Transportation, DOT regulations. Federal. DOT. DOT. DOT. But isn't anybody going to know what that means? Can we say? Department of Transportation. You would just say Federal Department of Transportation. What? Yeah, he's trucking right now. He's on his way home from Pennsylvania. He was in Syracuse, New York at five o'clock this morning. There. Then PA picking up a load of coal. Wow. All right. Anything else? Thank you as always, Katie. You've done an awesome job. She does. She's a keeper. All right. All good? Yep. Okay. So we're agreeing to the changes that are there. They're a motion to approve the May 28 meeting minutes. I'll move that. Second? Second. Okay. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. And Cliff is recusing himself. All right. I would like to. I can either do it. I just want like five minutes. Second session for a personnel matter. Okay. 922. Thank you. Sorry. Five minutes. No. I guess somebody doesn't get long-winded.