 I'm the Head Circulation Librarian here at the Kelek Hubbard Library, and today we're going to be talking about Overdrive, and Overdrive is a service that you can use through the library for downloading eBooks and audiobooks. And it's also known as LIP, so we're going to, I'm going to show you some slides to start with just to go over the service and kind of explain the different names you'll encounter and that sort of thing, and then we're going to do some demonstrations about how to actually get into it, log in and actually find something and download it so you can read something or listen to something today. So Overdrive is a service which has been around for a while now, and it's used by quite a lot of public libraries, so if you've been a member of other libraries, maybe you've encountered this already, and it offers both eBooks and audiobooks. And all you need to access it is a device, be it a phone or a tablet or a computer, and you also need your library card. So let's talk about the different names that you might hear in association with this. So Overdrive is the company which offers this service, so if you hear that, that's what it's referring to. Libby is the name of the app. They created an app a few years ago for tablets and smartphones, and they called it Libby by Overdrive. Hi, come on in. And then at this particular library, we're part of the Greenbotton Library Consortium, and so we access this service as part of a consortium of public and school libraries throughout the state. So if you see GMLC, that's what that's referring to. When we log in, you'll see we're logging into the Kellogg-Covered Library, but the Kellogg-Covered Library will tell you it is a part of the Greenbotton Library Consortium. And then Listen Up Vermont is the name that when the Greenbotton Library Consortium was founded so that Vermonters could have access to eBooks, they chose to call their program Listen Up Vermont. So if you see Listen Up Vermont for love, that's what they're referring to. Now back in June when I wrote this slide, there were 15,769 titles to choose from for Vermonters when they access Overdrive. That is certainly larger now. They add new titles every month. So just to give you a sense of how large the library is. If you are using an Apple device like an iPhone or an iPad, an Android device or a Windows 10 computer, you can use the Libby app. And if you're accessing it through a Kindle Fire or a Chromebook, you're going to use the Overdrive app, which is, again, you're accessing the same collection. It's just through different means, through different apps. And then any other device, so if you're using a computer or if you're using an eReader like a Kindle White, you'll need to start on a computer. You'll need to go through the website, Overdrive Maintains a website as well, which you can also access this. So same collection, same eBooks and audiobooks, just different ways of access. So for all the folks who have devices within here, the first step is to connect to the Wi-Fi here in the building. So to do this, you'll want to connect to the KH public Wi-Fi. It's an open network, which means it doesn't require a password. However, once you connect, you do need to launch a browser and then that will ask you, do you accept the terms of use for this Wi-Fi network and say I accept and then you're fully connected. So it's a two-step process. If anybody has any difficulty with that, let me know. And opening a browser, a counter-covered library browser? So the browser would be like Google Chrome or Firefox or Safari. One of those. Any message that says do you accept? I'm just saying the search bar. Okay, so try typing something into the search bar just to launch it to a website and hopefully that will kick it to the do you accept page. It's a little different for every browser, a little different for every device. And you said that I cannot change my password yet. Is it working now? Yes? No, not yet. It's still working on that. At the moment, everybody's locked into whatever password they have. So I got a sense earlier that most people are working with a default password, which is fine. And so if you had already changed it in the months prior, then you'll be still using your older password. Whatever you change it to. I'm still not getting it. Okay, it says accept conditions. Well, you're in. If you didn't get that page, you're just in. So you're good. I've already downloaded Overdrive. I didn't realize that that wasn't for an iPad. Yeah, so let me explain that. That's a good question. So a number of years ago, when people first started using iPhones and iPads and those sorts of things, Overdrive created an app called Overdrive. And then about two years ago, they created a new app called Libby. And they didn't get rid of the Overdrive app because it wasn't compatible with certain devices. So if you've been using the Overdrive app and you like it, it still works. The Libby app is just newer. And so if you are on an iPad or an iPhone, you actually have the choice of using Ether. And it's totally up to you. I'm going to show you both today. And it's entirely your decision what you want to use. Okay, so we're good with the Wi-Fi. And then I get the sense everybody here is already pretty interested in eBooks and eAudioBooks. But there's some, I just want to mention the benefits which are when you're reading an eBook, you have adjustable text sizes so you can make it larger, smaller, you can change the brightness on the screen, you can do things like that to customize it for you. It's also going to be a lighter weight than a physical book. And then with the eAudioBooks, you never have to deal with damaged or scratched CDs and you're never going to be in danger of losing any CDs as well. And for both of these, you would never get a late fee. It's automatically going to remove from your device once your checkout period is over. It just goes away. So you will never get a late fee. Can you renew? You can renew in some situations. So we'll talk about that. And there are, there's quite a lot of stuff on the Overdrive library. There are foreign language learning guides. There's all sorts, you know, all your major authors are going to be represented to some degree there, so your Louise Penney, your Michael Connelly's, David Baldacci's. There is, because this is a Vermont consortium, there's an effort to include Vermont authors like our Frank Mosier. And there's also items for children as well. So it's definitely for all ages. So I'm going to start today by talking about the Libby app. So for anybody who is on a device for which you would use the Libby app, this is some instruction for you. So the first thing you want to do is download it if you haven't already. So downloading it requires going to your app store, and if you're using an Android device, it might be called something like your Play Store or something like that, or your Google Store. And you want to search for an app called Libby by Overdrive. It has a symbol that sort of looks like a book with someone's head behind it like that. It's L-I-B-B-Y by Overdrive. So if you're on a computer, actually you won't find that app. So I'm sorry, this will be later for computers. Anybody having problems finding that? Yeah, finding anything. All right, I'm going to download it. Okay, let's see. So your app store is just there. No, this is... They just didn't update it. So search for anything by overdrive. Yeah, it's nice to see you can. So you can search for the library by the zip code? Yes, that's one of the ways you can do it. Did you find it? All right, great. So you'll download the app, and because you're all committed to the Wi-Fi, you don't need any data. It wants me to verify a payment message. So it's free, and if you're on... Depending on what you set your account up as with Apple, it still will ask... Sometimes it will ask you to put in a password or something like that, but this is totally free. This won't charge any credit card or anything. So I should just go ahead and... Yeah, there's no fee for any of this. Have any problems? I'm from Overlight Password. Oh, okay, your Apple password? I'm going to see if I've found it somewhere else. I have, like I said before, I can make you handouts of these slides, so if you can't get in today, I do have slides which go through once you have it downloaded how to actually get started. I want somebody to search for a library. Okay, yeah. Are we good if I go on to that step? Okay, great. So once you're in, it's going to ask you to search for your library. So there's a couple different ways you can do this. You can put in the zip code. You can put in Montpelier, Vermont. You could put in Kellogg-Covered Library. And it should give you some results. If you type in, like, Kellogg-Covered Library, it might give you another library with the name Kellogg in their name or something like that. But you just want to choose Kellogg-Covered Library. I'm still on hold, right? Yes. Okay. So your experience is going to be similar, but slightly different. But we'll get there. So you can see in the slides up here, I did the zip code, and it brought, gave me the option of Greenmont Library Consortium Kellogg-Covered Library. And then once you pick up that, then really all I'm telling it is that I'm in the Greenmont Library Consortium, and then I need to confirm that I'm in the Kellogg-Covered Library within the Greenmont Library Consortium. It's a little contraintuitive, but that's basically why it's asking you twice which library you're in. And then once you've added your library, is everybody at this step? I'm in. Oh, okay. The old ribs. They're up for me under Greenmont Library Consortium. Okay. I'm going to get you a Kellogg-Covered. Just because if it doesn't say Kellogg-Covered, you won't accept your library. So choose another location, and yeah, just scroll down until you find Kellogg-Covered. So once you've found your library, then you need to add your library card. And it's going to ask you for your library card number, which is going to be a 14-digit number on the back of your library card. If anybody doesn't have their library card with them here, we can get you that information at the front desk later today. Or you can always give us a call if you forget it or lose it. The good thing is, once you're logged in to Libby, it should remember. So you don't have to type this 14 digits every single time. Every once in a while, it does ask again. Every few months, it does ask me. And what's happening with that is it's doing an update, and then after the update, it's going to require you to log in again. So it shouldn't happen too often. If it's happening very often... Twice through last year. Okay. But if it happens a lot, let us know it could be some sort of issue. But it shouldn't be happening a lot. And then once you've put in your library card number, it will ask you for a password. So again, it sounded like most people were with the default password, which is all lowercase KHL802. And if you had changed your password on the catalog, your Libby account and your library card account and your catalog are connected. So if you've changed your password in the catalog, then you want to use whatever you changed it to in the catalog. Have you done that? I'm going to go find out. Okay. This isn't for me. So I've never signed in a library we just moved to Tampa. Let's go. I have a password from where I was with Overdrive. And the other library showed you that same password. So in this case, so the thing about Overdrive is you can sign in with as many library cards as you have. So if you have library cards at other libraries, you can use them and then you can access to even more materials and check out even more items. But right now we're just logging into the KELO Cover. So you want to use your KELO Cover password for this particular case. So you want to use the KHL802. Anybody unsuccessful in logging in, getting your library card in, getting the password in? Okay. So you're in. Where it says the option rename card or next, why would you want to rename your card? Is there any reason to do that? The only reason is if you're going to, like if you had kids and you wanted to add your kids card, you could have, you know, so-and-so's card and so-and-so's card. But otherwise it's just going to associate it with your library card number. But if you're the only one using it on that particular app, then I wouldn't suggest renaming it, but you certainly can if you want it. So at this point, you are logged in and you're ready to check out materials. And when you're in the app, there's always two options at the very bottom of your screen. One says library and one says shelf. Library is where you search for items and shelf shows you what you've checked out, what you've put on hold. So if you're logged in, you can choose the shelf option down at the bottom and then you can find out what's available. So on this first slide here, I'm showing you how to browse. Some people want to do a specific search and some people just want to browse around and there's options for both of those things. So if you want to browse, there's this explore option. And if you click on explore, it will give you some guides to different subjects. It will also give you some lists of newly added titles. I will show you what's popular, all that kind of stuff. So you can choose any of those options. In this case, I've chosen the guide to mysteries and thrillers. And so I've opened that up and it's going to show me hundreds and hundreds of titles of mysteries and thrillers. And audio books. At this point, I haven't specified that I specifically want eBooks or specifically want audio books, but there's a way to do that. So you'll see that there's a preferences option and if I open up preferences, I can choose the one that I personally use all the time is the availability option. And usually, I don't plan these out very well because I want an audio book for a long drive. It's usually the night before. I should get an audio book, but I don't want to see what's already checked out because I don't want to put things on hold for something I need right now. So if I change my availability preferences from everything to available titles, I'll only be seeing what's available and what I can check out right here and now. Which I find pretty useful. Will it stay this way or I have to do that at a time? So you would do that every time, yeah? I see. And then you can also change the format. So if you're specifically looking for audio books as opposed to eBooks, you can go into the format preference and you can change that as well. There's a couple other ones that I personally don't use that often, but depending on what type of device you're using or what you're looking for, you may want to explore those other preferences. I'm sorry, that format. I have just books and audio books. So books mean eBooks? Yes, what you would actually read as opposed to what's being read to, yeah. But it means that not paper books, but eBooks. Yeah, so it's going to just show the words on the screen and in the audio books, you know, there's a narrator who reads. I understand that. But for me, books are paper books. Right, yeah, in this case, yeah. It's just, yes. Okay. And then if you had in mind a particular title or author, you can also do a search. So when you're in the library, there's always a magnifying glass at the very top. And if you click on the magnifying glass, you can type in, in this case, I typed in an author, or you could type in a title. And you can do a search for something specific like that. You can search by subject. You can search by subject, yeah. Really? And under compatibility, it has Kindle, Libby, or Adobe compatible reading. So this is where using Libby is great because Libby will be compatible with all of those. So you don't have to worry using Libby on your phone or your iPad, what format you use. It will work on all of them. If you were, say, if you had a Kindle white and you needed to transfer the e-book from your computer to your Kindle white, you would need to make sure it was in Kindle format. But if you're using Libby on a smartphone or an iPad, you don't have to worry about a format. So if I go ahead and find a book that I want to read, I don't want to read it right now, I can read it. It will never go away. The collection doesn't, they don't read things from the collection, which is nice. You can always find it again if you wanted to. Or if it's checked out, you can also put a hold on it. So an e-book, can you check that? Yeah. And not available? Absolutely. So this is actually, that's a good point. So you would think, right, this is an e-book, it's not a physical item, that everybody would have access to all of these titles at all times. However, the way that it works, and I wish it didn't work this way, but the way that it works is that the consortium buys access to the e-book. So essentially they're paying for one person having access to the book at a time, or if it's a popular title, they might buy like 10 or 20 accesses, basically like the equivalent of buying 10 or 20 copies. So you will see, that's the availability option, you will see that there are always going to be things checked out, and particularly your newer items, your more popular items are likely to be checked out, because we're sharing this with everybody else in the state of Vermont. So that is an unfortunate reality. There are going to be some titles on here, particularly in the e-book side, that are past copyright, in that case the consortium isn't actually paying for those, we're getting those for free, so there's no limitation. If you're looking for something classic, like Jane Austen or something like that, you should always be able to get right impressions. But if you're looking for something that was published from about the 1920s until now, it's going to be subject to a copyright, and that means that we're paying for access to one person at a time. So should I put it on my shelf? Yeah, you can put it on your shelf, and you'll remember that, yeah? Could you do that by, please, up here or down here? Yeah, so actually, you don't want to click shelf. Let me, actually, that segues nicely into my next slide. So once you find what you want, you'll either see next to the cover image, you'll see either borrow or you'll see hold. Do people see that? You might have to click on the cover image itself, and then it will open up just that book from the search screen. All right, so if it says borrow, you can get it right here now, and if it says hold, you'll be put on the list, and then you'll get it later. If it says place hold? Yeah, place, yeah. So if it says borrow. You can find that. Okay, so let me look. How was 05 available? Yeah, so in that case, see where it says place hold there, so you can add yourself to the hold list. So in this case, I found a book that is available, and I want to borrow it right now, so I've chosen borrow, and now this second screen, the second picture is the most important one, and I really need to stress this. So I told it I want to borrow it. Now it's asking me to confirm, and it's saying you are borrowing this title for, the default is going to say seven days. If you want it longer, you have to click on where it says seven days, and tell it you want it for 14 days instead. It's going to default to the shorter checkout period, but you know, me personally, I'm not going to be able to read a book in seven days, it's going to take longer. I always change it to 14 days. Once I changed it from seven to 14 days, then I'm clicking borrow again, and that will actually borrow the book for me. So then I see this third screen, and it confirms you have borrowed this book for 14 days, and it gives me the option I can either go to my shelf and read the book, or I can keep browsing and look for other books. In this case, I want to read it right away, so I chose go to shelf, and then in my shelf, I'll see that title come up, and it will give me an open book option, and I click on open book, and then in this case, I downloaded a Kindle version of the book, but like I was saying before, I can do everything in the app. I don't need to send this to my Kindle app, I don't need to send this anywhere else. I'm just going to do everything in the app, so I'm going to tell it I want to read it in Libby. Libby has as good of a reading app as any other, as Kindle or anything else you can, like I was saying before, change your font size, change your brightness, all that kind of stuff, so I don't want to send this to Kindle and make things more complicated for myself. I'm just going to read it right in the app. But is it possible to send to my very old Kindle and read it in Kindle? Yep, it is, yeah. And I'll get to that later when I talk about Kindles. What about Nook? So Nook would be the same as Kindle Paperwhite, where actually you would want to start on a computer and then you would need to transfer it to your Nook from at once you've chosen it in the computer. I start with Libby because Libby has the fewest steps. I end with Kindles and Nooks because they have the most steps, unfortunately, that just...unfortunately the way it is, yeah. Okay. So I just want to show you real quick if I were to get an audio book. It's the same process. The only difference is you see a different screen when you...it just shows you a slightly different screen when you open the audio book in Libby. It looks like this. When you open the e-book in Libby, it just shows you the text of the book and you move your finger across to move the page and it's pretty self-explanatory. With the audio book listening screen, it's also pretty self-explanatory. You've got your play button right in the middle and then you can also add bookmarks. You can switch to a different chapter, all that kind of stuff. So for those of you who found a book that you wanted, but it was currently checked out, you would do pretty much the exact same process except you want to click on place a hold as opposed to borrow. When you place your hold, it's going to give you an estimate of how long you'll have to wait and as you can see, it can get very long. You're aware of that problem and all the libraries in Toronto are aware of that problem. We try to get multiple copies of popular books. We keep track of what's popular and we do the best we can. So it's going to tell you you'll have to wait probably so long. Six months, I got it. Unfortunately, it can be that long. Six months? Oh gosh, there wasn't any of it. Now the thing about this is the folks at Grimont Library Consortium who order the books will get a report when they go to order and they'll see well, we have a really long waiting list for such and such a title. Maybe we need to add more accesses to this title and they might buy more. So you may find you get it before six months because they've added more titles, more copies. Might. You can also see once you're in your shelf and you have something at hold it'll show you what you have on hold and you can click on the wait list and you can see, for example, I was third in line for this book. There were five copies available. It will give you all those details if you want to see it. And just because you have a book here like A Heart and Happy doesn't mean it's a bad book, right? No, no. Unfortunately not. Yeah, okay. So we've talked about borrowing books and putting books on hold. You can check out up to three items at a time and I believe the hold limit is something like five or six at a time but I could be wrong about that. So you can have up to three items checked out at a time. Once you return something then automatically your space is open and you can get something else. And you can return something early or, like I said, once you've hit your borrowing period's end it just automatically comes off of your device and then you can go on to something else. And you can't get it back. Well, you could try it. Depending, yeah, if nobody else has it on hold or something like that you could try to download it again. Or you could, if you knew that you weren't going to finish in time you can go to your shelf and you can go to Manage Title and you can see if it can be renewed. You'll either say it will be the Renew option or it won't. There's a setting in your Overdrive app. In your settings you can set your preferences. The one that I particularly change is I wanted to make sure that I never download a book on my data, my cell phone data. I always want to use the Wi-Fi so I changed my settings. Under Download Settings I change it to Wi-Fi Home. It depends on what you're, where do you do that? So at the very top of the screen there's a face sort of face in the top right hand corner of the screen. Do you see that? Yeah. If you click on that it should open a menu and then in your menu you should have a download preferences. Are you getting that? Sorry I can't hear you. Set up Libby. Did you change these things on time? Like I said, I set these slides up in June. So I recall a face. It's the Libby symbol at the right hand corner at the top of your screen. Right. Press that. Yep. Press on that and then set up Libby and then change down the menu. Which is already preset. Okay. Thank you. Where is it? I'm just going to read books. Can I choose too? Oh yeah. You definitely can. Yeah. Okay. So that was so like I said before if you have multiple library cards you can put multiple library cards on your Libby app that lets you check out six things or however many library cards you have it would extend your limits. You can definitely do that. So I have this checked out on the screen here what do I do with it so I don't lose it? Yeah. So you're not going to lose it for 14 days. If I go to something else I want to be able to get back to this book. Oh yeah. Thank you. That's a great question. At the very bottom of your screen you should always see shelf. Go to shelf? If you click on your shelf it will show you what you have checked out. So you can go into the library again and you can look for other things you can search around and then you can go back to your shelf and you'll see what you have checked out and you also see what you have on hold. So those two options at the bottom are how you're toggling back and forth between the searching and the search. And if I am in the middle of the book and well I finished reading for today and next day do you have to sign again through all that stuff? So Libby should remember your sign in so all you have to do is open the app and it shouldn't ask you for your library card number it shouldn't ask you for all that stuff. And how does app look? So it's kind of like it's a face behind a book symbol and it looks like it's fun you just downloaded it right? Yes You just can't find it? That's what it is. Right. That's very strange. Also you're using it on the website which is fine but if you've got a device like this on the Libby app I'll help you after I really want to get you set up. Okay If you run into problems obviously you can reach out to the library and we're happy to help. This is sort of my steps that I go through when I run into problems with Libby if I can't download a title my first question is do I have the most recent updates for the app the Libby app and luckily the answer is yes because those updates happen automatically but that could potentially be what's holding it up The other question is am I connected to the Wi-Fi? Because again like I said I had set my preferences and it looks like the default preferences now are to not download anything unless you're connected to the Wi-Fi Then my next question is as my download limit been reached do I already have three things out let me get a fourth thing and then I'm going to check my settings just make sure nothing funny is going on with that and if I checked all those things and I haven't figured it out I'm going to reach out to Overdrive and see what's happening unable to log in the two things that are going to hold you up with that primarily are going to be your library card number and your password if there's any sort of an issue with that that's primarily going to be why you're not able to log in as mentioned before your library card you're you're connected now so your library account in at the library for checking out physical items and that sort of thing is connected to your Libby account so if you have for some reason if we have to block your account here at the library like your fines are over $10 or you've been billed for a book or something like that it's going to affect your Libby access as well so I see lots of excellent library patrons here I know none of those things will happen to you but that could potentially be wrong, yeah are there any records really kept out of what we take out? no so you'll have a history but the library doesn't see it we do not see it you can go into your shelf and you can see what you've checked out in the past and Libby doesn't and Overdrive doesn't I mean I don't know exactly I'm sure that you can look at their privacy you know I'm sure they have a document for that and you can see exactly what they do but I mean they're saving that information so much that you can see it exactly if they're actually looking I don't know I'm not worried about them looking at them I'm not worried about that much I've checked out early and you're having trouble with that again check the wifi connection it's most likely going to be the issue and then I always, if I'm using it on an app you can try it on the website too it's all connected so you can use Libby on your app you can go to the Overdrive website and you can log in on the Overdrive website and maybe knows what you've checked out on the app and so sometimes you can sort of circumvent that problem by going to the website so yes I've just tried to place a hold on something I get a message saying if you place a hold it should be ready for you to borrow in two weeks and it tells me there are three copies in use and one person waiting but I don't know how to go further and place the hold then because so it sounds like you were successful let me take a look I'll be on my shelf oh okay so you actually want to see where this place hold you want to click on that what if I did so that little calendar symbol gives you this so you just click further to the left oh over here there you go thank you I could have been doing that for days does anybody have any Libby questions? I know that was really fast and I just want to make sure we have time to go over the website too any Libby questions always feel free to stop in or you can call or email me as well this is my contact information I'm happy to answer any questions about any of this I don't want to stop because I open to read a single I think that's a good question so so if you click towards the top of the screen and then once you're here so it might be a double double cap alright so I'm going to show the website now if that's okay if anybody has any Libby questions we can still do these stuff is that overdrive? so I overdrive absolutely it's going to be a little different I can show you that too but like I said they're all pretty similar and they're accessing the same catalog I'll show you both so overdrive is for ebooks they're both for ebooks and audio books it's just the overdrive app it was the first app they developed and then they decided they could do better and they made a new app to get rid of the overdrive app because the new app wasn't compatible with everything that the old app was yeah so if you want to access it through a computer you'll be using the website you start at kellocovert.org and then there's in this menu here there's digital and then under digital is ebooks and audio books and you choose that to apply to a computer this is specifically for a computer so if you're accessing if you want to put your ebooks or audio books on a computer you would do this also if you have something like a Kindle White or a Nook or another type of e-reader that doesn't have ability to download apps like a Kindle Fire so if you want to use this as well you'll have an additional step after transferring something to an e-reader okay so I've started at kellocovert.org I've gone into the menu chosen digital and then ebooks so digital and then ebook yep and then here we've provided some basic information about overdrive and then right here in the middle is the overdrive symbol and that's a link so you just click right on the symbol and it opens up the new page the sign in process is very similar to Libby so I'm going to click sign in I'm going to tell it what library I'm at in this case because I'm linking from the kellocovert library it already knows I'm part of the Greenmont Library Consortium but I again have to confirm that I'm at the kellocovert library and it's going to ask me for a library card number and my password and the and the password what password? same password that you would have used for Libby so khl802 it's going to be the same log in if we were doing Libby small letters yeah all are k's khl802 802 yep so you're logging in whether you're doing Libby or you're doing the overdrive app or you're doing the website it's always the same it's your library card number 14 digits and then it's going to be your password which it sounds like everybody here is working with a default password which is fine you don't have to change it if you don't want to khl802 and if you are using it on a website your web browser like mine has here might ask me if I want to save my information that's up to you if you're using the computer and you think that's safe and you know that's still up to you so now I'm in and it just looks a little different but like I said before it's the same collection so I can choose the search option here and I can search for a particular title or author I can choose the collections here and I can browse for various things as well or subject matters so I don't need to go into my account I'm already honored so once you see the my account as opposed to login that's how you know you're in if I click on my account you'll see it gives me options to look at my loans, to look at my hold my wish list, that sort of thing in this case I don't have anything checked out so I don't have anything under loan so I've got to find something I'm going to look for an author that I like and then I found something that I want so I'm going to choose borrow so you should see it looks pretty similar it's going to look slightly different but pretty similar to the app so I'm going to choose borrow and here I'm going to make sure that I get the full 14 days as opposed to 7 days in this case it gave me 14 days to start which is awfully nice of it but if it said 7 days I would change it and then I'm going to confirm that I want to borrow now when you get to this stage and you're using a computer this is where it matters whether or not you want to transfer to your Kindle White or your Nook or whatever it might be so if you're using a Kindle White which is basically different from a Kindle Fire which allows you to do apps you would want to do read with Kindle Now if you're just using it on a computer which is totally fine if you read a book on a computer you can listen to an audio book on your computer you would do read in browser and if you had a Nook or some other type of eReader that was not a Kindle then you would download the Fire you would download the EPUB does that make sense to everybody I know that's a lot of different options and it's kind of confusing but unfortunately download EPUB this last option down here just download because that's what we want download EPUB and then what that's going to do is it's actually going to put the file for the eBook on your computer and then you need to transfer that file to your Nook so if you've got a connector or wire that connects your Nook to your computer you would do that if your device is Bluetooth you might be connected by Bluetooth depends on your device on either the computer or the Nook yep, absolutely you can do both so I'll show you what it looks like if you're using a Kindle and we do have people here using Kindle lights but no I don't know what kind of Kindle it is yeah, so that's a Kindle light or it basically just not a Kindle fire okay so in that case and my apologies you have the most steps you have to take so this is not something for the Nook you don't need to go through that with me okay alright if you have questions let me know after if you're using the Nook you would download the EPUB format and then you would actually connect to your Nook to your computer and transfer the file from your computer to the Nook and I'm happy to work with you with that if you want to so in this case then if we're going to skip that I'll just show you a read-in browser and it just looks like this and I can just read it like that I can change my settings and all that kind of stuff where are the little warnings change the font things there we go so if I click at the top of the page and I can change whether or not I have one or two columns I can search for something if I remember that I read a certain sentence or something like that I could search for it and it will search all the text in the book I can put in a bookmark if I want to remember where I stopped so you just click on that and then this menu here is where I would change my reading settings so I can make the text bigger smaller you just get that by going over I can also change the brightness so I can change what is the optimal setting like is there an optimal setting for when you're reading on a device like this to reduce fatigue or that sort of thing that's really a question I don't know if I have the exact answer what I usually hear from people is looking at a white screen to tie around your eyes there is an option and it's a little weird but some people like it where you can do the dark format which sort of makes it opposite and if you do that you have white text in front of black so it still lives you but that's an option and you can pick the middle too you can do the sepia tone which is a little more of a gray I have a question about the length of time we can borrow things when they ask you to confirm the borrow button you can do it if you're just putting something on hold it doesn't ask you that so at what point do you get to choose one or two weeks when you put something on hold they're going to notify you when your hold is ready they usually will send you an email and you'll get an email that will say your hold is ready so you go into your Libby app and you go to your shelf and you'll see it will be there ready for you and then you click borrow and then you'll ask you at that point how long do you want this for so it doesn't automatically send it to you when it's ready you have to confirm that and for those using a computer it will also send me an email so let me show you where that setting is when you go into my settings it's going to look a little different in the app so in this case here there's this automatically hold checkout so I have it set for me personally that it automatically checks out books that I have on hold but if I unclicked that it would make you go through that process and then you would have your option to say no I want this for 14 days so I'm living dangerously here but you know I didn't have that one checked and what does that mean automatically hold checkout so in that case I had that checked so when my hold was ready it was automatically once it was ready checking it out to me as opposed to sending me the email to say it's ready and making me go and confirm that I want it so you would just automatically get it would come to you would it be rejected if you already had three ooh that's a good question and then you would get to choose some of the time I'm looking at preferences but you said settings so this is the slight differences between the website and the app they use slightly different languages but preferences is where you want where you would look at the app let me open up my app and I'll see if I can get more specific language for you you better reset that automatic one so in the app we've talked a little bit about this before but there's this symbol up here that kind of looks like someone's face you can click on that and that brings up setup Libby and setup Libby is where your preferences are and manage hold notices is where I can tell it which email address you can find me at and then there's also this borrow automatically option which I'm going to now unclick and so now they have to tell me no for me for the computer use for the computer it looks just slightly different let me go back to the home screen here you'll choose my account and then settings and then when you scroll down in your settings you'll see automatic hold check out and it will either be checked or unchecked but if you have it checked it's not going to ask you it's just going to automatically check out your notes so I want to spend the next minute just going over the overdrive app for the folks who are using the overdrive app it sounds good to everybody and then we'll wrap it up okay so which is so the overdrive app if you are using a Kindle Fire or you already had set up your iPhone or iPad or Android device with the overdrive app and you just don't want to use it because you're used to the overdrive app or whatever it might be then you would use the overdrive app and so would I you're using the website yeah so you're good for me quick, I want to sign in using my library card there's some other sign in options depending on what you had set up before you may choose but signing using your library card is always an option for everybody and I think it's the easiest way oops I'm not paying attention what I'm doing here okay so it's asking the same questions as the Libby sign in and the website sign in asked so it's asking me to tell the Libby sign in and then once I choose kella covered I have to choose kella covered again and then I'll put in my library card number which is KHLA2 so the overdrive looks a little bit different and so as you can see here and on your Kindle Fire I should probably look even a little bit more different than what I'm seeing here because this is the computer version of the app but I'm going to add a library once again so one of the reasons they made the Libby app is that the overdrive app had all these steps but they were trying to pare down so they called the Libby app their one click digital device that's a bit of an exaggeration it takes more than one click but it takes fewer clicks than overdrive so again after the third time I'm going to tell it I met the kella covered library I guess that's the Green Mountain Library Consortium so now I'm in the Green Mountain Library Consortium and I've got to sign in again you can see it looks very similar to the website and it functions almost exactly like the website at this point but once you get a book it's a little bit different depending on the book I want I can do the search where I can browse by subject or collection in this case I'm going to do a quick search I want this book a bar for 14 days okay and then you do the click on the download yeah exactly so on the app itself when you want to see what you have there will be a menu option on the left hand side and oh I'm sorry change things on the slide okay no I'm sorry they've changed things on me so I can need to go into my account just like the website and look at my loans or my holds there's also this it looks like some books find see if you can click on that and it takes you two year loans as well two ways to get to the same thing and then from here I can choose to read it as a Kindle version or I can choose to download it as an e-book now one thing that I didn't mention with any of the other ways that I looked at was what if you finish your book early and you want to return it when you're in your shelf so if you're in the Libby app you would choose the shelf option and if you're on the website you would look at your loans or you would click on this symbol here and then there should be a return option and then you can just confirm you want to return the title and like I said before that will just free up your spaces you get three spaces at a time and so if you wanted to return because you finished or you didn't like it and then you can go on to something else okay question? I have a lot of questions I just spent a lot of time looking for a profound book I thought I had borrowed it but it's not on my shelf ah okay and also I can't find other loans I just did these from a while ago but when I hit here I don't see where it says loans yeah so let's go into the subscription page here I just put it then it says it doesn't work this device after all that wait a minute I would suggest if you're using my pad to go with Libby it's going to be a lot easier for you oh my gosh okay I'm happy to do that but I wish that you would send that at the beginning so now I have to go yeah just download the Libby app okay do I just delete this whole app you can just leave that up on there yep it's not going to take up all of those spaces so I have to go go nope you would go to your app store and find Libby what you were saying oh I'm just going to keep my overdrive yeah does anybody else have any questions I don't know how to change the library oh yeah so the Kindle is always going to look a little different let's open this up those three lines are like your menu and we want to manage libraries and we want to add so the plus sign here alright and then it's search for kello covered and it'll take you through a lot of places okay there it is there yep so I want to thank everybody for coming and I'll be around all day today if anybody has any questions and I'm always around otherwise too and so thank you so much thank you