 Wednesday, wiki tree challenge, Wednesday. It's an exciting day. How is everyone doing? I hope everyone's having a wonderful evening or morning where we are in the world. So let's go ahead and before we kick things off, let's introduce everybody who is here. So my self, my name is Sarah. I'm a wiki tree team member. And then right next to me, we have Mindy. She's the wiki tree challenge coordinator. And then next to Mindy, we have Devon, who is our next week's guest star, which we're starting technically right now. I'm sure people already have started. And below me, we have Laura. She was Scott's team captain. She'll just be audio. And then next to her, we have Scott, who we just wrapped up. So very exciting, very exciting. So for those of you who just popped in, probably because you saw some social media posts that were just posted about this chat, about this live cast, and you have no idea what wiki tree is. You have no idea what the wiki tree challenge is. I'm gonna tell you very briefly, just so you can have an idea. So wiki tree is a community of genealogists who are working together on a single family tree. In other words, we collaborate to grow an accurate global tree that connects us all. And most remarkably, it is free. And so the wiki tree challenge is our year-long event and part of our year of accuracy, where each week a team of wiki tree years takes on a genealogy guest star's tree and collaborates to make it more accurate and complete than it is anywhere else. And our goal is to improve our accuracy on wiki tree, add more family connections, and make more friends. We've been making friends every week and it's awesome. So just so everyone knows, if anybody has any questions for Scott or Devon during the live cast, go ahead and post them in the comments and we'll pop them up when it's relevant. And I guess we'll just go ahead and start with what we got. It's the big reveal. The big reveal, the big juicy details that Scott has no idea and then something about a pig, I think. And then what I like about this, I like this because it really points out, no matter how deep in the weeds you've been in this stuff, no matter how long, it's never done. There's always something new and it always helps to have another set of eyes popping on it, you know? And I've spent far more on my dad's side than on my mom's side. So it'll be interesting to see what comes out of this, where you've been finding the stuff. Yes. Yes, and the one consistent thing with any good genealogist is they all say, I never have enough time for my own tree. You always go, oh, I'm gonna get back to that great grandfather. Yeah, I'm busy this week. Yeah. Okay, so I'm gonna tell everybody a little bit, go over the point system and what we do here before we let all of Scott's secrets out. So MVP, we have our most valuable player and you know, most of us really, I'd say all of us actually aren't in it for the points, but it's a good human motivator. So we do have points that we use. We give out 10 points for each brick wall that's broken down. And then the system automatically keeps track of every direct ancestor that's added as well as the nuclear family. So siblings are children. They get one point each that way. And on some of these bigger families, those really add up. So we give a most valuable player award MVP for the one with the highest points at the end of the week. And we'll also be showing you our top five. But first, let's go ahead and talk about our collaboration and how they get there to get those points. On the left is a spreadsheet. We have a new one every week. The participants for that week, go ahead and put what profile they're working on, hopefully next to their name because when you get 30 or 40 people, it's really easy to go bumping into somebody and make them lose their work. So we try and use that so that we're not all on the same profile. On the right, we put up a G2G post each week. There, they can click on the lines to see just one great grandparents line. They can say, hey, I found a brick wall for such and such. Or interesting fact, or sometimes just ask questions. And then our biggest one is discord. Now this is our live chat. And honestly, I don't think we could do it without it. We are a global site. So we have, there's always somebody in there. It's my morning at somebody else's evening, whatever. And we all didn't have a different realm of experience. So if I don't know much about Swedish records, which I'll say right now, I have learned a ton this week. I can go, hey, so and so, can you look at this please? Am I reading this right? I think the parents are. And they're like, oh yeah, you got it. There's also this information. Or we could just, you know, cheer each other on. Sometimes we say, hey, I added like 10 sources to this profile, but I don't like writing biographies. And somebody else will jump in and go, oh, I love that. I love the narrative. Let me add it. You know, so we use it for a lot of stuff. And yeah, couldn't do it without it. Can we have a talk? So, yeah, uh-huh. I see a few Scandinavian names there. He says, I think I know where this is going. Yeah, I do. And I because of the word from the start, yeah. We had a brand new participant. This was his first week participating this week. And I apologize always ahead of time for saying anybody's names wrong cause I try. But we have Ro Ustensson and he was one of our biggest Swedish experts working, getting a lot done. So not only did he get the number one points, but he also got the top bounty points for the week. Really good. Donna Bowman, Em Cole, Tom Kenline. This was his first time up in top five. So congratulations. Nice, Tom. Yeah, and also Maria Lendholm. Did really, really good. Woo. So let's look at the stats really quick. Like that figure, hold on. And refresh these. And I think they're actually still, oh, they're almost caught up. They're almost caught up now. We had a little bit of problem, especially with some of the names. Our system wasn't wanting to update with the badges. Yeah, it wasn't liking those special characters and things. So now there you go. And you see our MVPs right there at the top. Total points all together for the 30 people listed was 808 points total. There were other people that didn't get points at all. They worked on space pages. They did categories. They added stickers. They wrote narrative, things like that. Now for created ancestors, this you should be surprised at, Scott. Now I know you had some of these on your own tree and you had just extensive work done. So this helped us. But we start from the great grandparents and go out. So every time a direct ancestor was added, that was counted. And there were 147 of them added to WikiTree. For nuclear family, nuclear family, this is just the kids that are added on all of those profiles, 351. Right? The babysitting charges are gonna be horrendous. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So 498 total direct. And that's not counting any cousins, the in-laws, you know, something like that. Bounty points that were actually 320 bounding points for this week. So that's 32 brand new ancestors for you. And they're- We'll have the brownie points when we get to name the pig. When they get to name the pig, yes. And so that means that was 32 ancestors that you didn't have at a certain spot. Now they added ancestors beyond that, but they only get the points for the first one that they found. For profiles edited was the next thing. And every time somebody went in and fixed a date, added a source, that counted as a contribution or an edit. 1,052 edits to your profiles this week. I'm exhausted in thinking about that. I'd have to live to be 93 years old this week. Yeah. And actually that was our profiles. 4,150 total edits. So yeah, the power of collaboration and wiki tree, they never cease to amaze me. They do so awesome. Good job, everyone. How are you doing? Hey. It's gonna be fun. Good job, good job. Okay. Oh, we- And Laura, are you ready to give him some of his secrets? Secrets. Secrets. All right. Secrets. This is Henry Livingston. He's on your Andrew Fisher line. Let's see here. Okay. He is connected. His connection was made with John Bogardas to an existing wiki tree profile. And that Andrew Fisher line through Henry Livingston, who was born in 1495, took you back to the Netherlands. Henry and his wife Margaret Porrester were new to your ancestry. Nice. Those were new ancestors. Yes. I actually have a profile if we wanna show it real quick. Henry and Margaret Porrester from the Netherlands. Unbelievable. Wonderful. Yeah, they did a lot of work. I'm just looking this over. So it's pretty too. That's the other thing. Mm-hmm. So we have the widgets. I know we have the- Well, and if you scroll down on any person, and this is kind of what we're trying to show, not only on yourself, but you can go to like Henry's. And say, hey, I wanna put some cousin bait out there. Maybe somebody has these branches further than me. You just go to that family tree and tools and scroll down. The wiki tree tools? Yep. Got it, got it. And you're gonna find those, the family tree widgets. And you can do one of those dynamic trees like the pretty tree, or you can do like a 10 generation list, however you wanna do it. And that embeds it and it updates live from wiki tree. Sweet. You put that in your blog or Facebook, Twitter, wherever. There's a lot of stuff there, good. Pretty cool. And this is what it kind of looks like when you put it up there. Yeah, yeah, I was looking at that. Fun. Next we have Ambrose, saccade? Ambrose, yes. Ambrose. Yeah, and this was Ambrose, saccade. He, this was your eighth great grandfather. Very familiar with him. Yes, I had no, this must be somebody over in Europe during this work, doing this work, because I've never seen parents for Ambrose before. That's incredible. Yeah, he was a salt farmer using salt flats to farm sea salt crystals. And he owned a vineyard. Yeah, he was a Huguenot. That's amazing. His family escaped France as a part of the Huguenot exodus, yeah, in the 17th century. Yeah, came and helped settle New Rochelle, New York, where I actually worked on the radio for a little while when I was a teenager. And this one, if I could interject really quick, it's Ambrose, secar. Ambrose. Ambrose. Secar. Because I had somebody do that pronunciation for me. Ambrose. Secar. I cheated. Go ahead, Laurel. He, his father and grandfather were both named Andre. Okay. That's awesome. I really look forward to seeing the sources on that. That's incredible. What a great find. And then Alisha Gallaudet, which is a great grandfather. He is an engraver. Elishe, actually, yes. Elishe Gallaudet. Yeah, Elishe. Oh, is that how you say it? Yeah. Oh, okay. It's the French for Alisha. Oh, okay. Yeah, my American. So. So. I'm terrible. He was the engraver who created the Continental Dollar Coin, the first US coin created for the Continental Congress in 1776. That's pretty cool. Yeah. And then there was Sarah Taylor Long. She was born in 1595. She has six direct ancestors behind her. And the oldest was Agnes Wilmote, born in 1518 in England. Oh, okay. Now, which line does this tie into? Four of those were new. The line. It all comes off the C car line, I believe. Oh, yes, it does. This one does? Oh, okay. Yeah. Wow, okay. That's exciting. That's fun. Okay. Yes, there were, in this line there were three generations of gardeners, Mathias Stenberg in 1805, Carl Fredrick Stenberg, 1745, and Carl Stenberg, 1716. Cool, okay. And I did find out, Scott, that you and I are, what are we, like, 11 cousins? Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo! Our common ancestor is there. It's Thomas Clark of England. Ooh! Okay, wow. And there's Rekastus, old Rekastus. That's a great colorized picture of him there. Oh, the Rekastus Waldrian? Yes. There were four of them. He was the first one. Yeah, there were several people who did research on the Waldrian line. One team member analyzed the DNA. He found some low matches. He's still working on that for you, though. Yeah, I've done a lot of work on the DNA with Rekastus also. And yes, there are quite a few matches, but there are challenges trying to get back much further. There are a few from his father and mother, but nothing, except on the mother side. We have some of those. So appreciate whatever work you're doing on that. That's fantastic. There were some solid brick walls, but we were all working at it, and he's still working on that DNA. So there were a few. This was a surprise of Nelson Albert Waldrian, 1839 to 1917. His professional name was Nelson Waldrian. Information as the New York Public Library says that he was best known for creating the famous elevator double stage at the Madison Square Theater for Steele McKay in the early 1880s. And later, that decade, he created the indoor cyclone for the Buffalo Bills Wild West Show at Madison Square Garden. Unbelievable. Yeah, there's Arthur George Waldrian. What's that? His son was Arthur George Waldrian, his name was Peter Parker. Yep, in the Bronx, so. Yeah, that's the famous people back there. Yeah, we do. This guy was something else. Unfortunately, he has no living descendants. So this might be new. You had a great grand nephew of George Washington Waldrian, 1873 to 1940. He was viewed by his wife for separation on grounds of cruelty, because she claimed famously that she had never been kissed. Oh, that was kind of interesting too. And you'll see one of the team members did a lot of work on that. And if you read it, it sounds like they had a very volatile relationship. But I guess they had gone into a theater and somebody had said, okay, now who in the audience has never been kissed? And she stood up. That's how she became famous for, she stood up. And then she looked around and realized she was the only one standing there. Yeah, my dad did not like his uncle George. And apparently nobody else did either. So, yeah, that's a new one there. The marital troubles called her vile name, struck her in the face, choked her, not good. Wow. Disgraced him at the theater. That's a long list. I like that separation denied. Isn't that something different times? Yeah. Yeah. Seems like we also need to add that wife. Yes. Harriet Hammer. Okay, let's continue. Aha. Her sand, like honey, I'm not even gonna try that. Her sadness, yeah. Sadness. This is all new. Yeah, I'm not familiar with this at all. This is great. Those ones were all new relatives out there. Yeah, fun. And I had a lot of people from that Sorodal area and Headmark. Yeah. Yeah. And a couple other places where they were really grouped, but I can't pronounce any of them. But they're on the profiles. We did the locations correctly. That's fabulous. Wow. Yeah, it's not known where he came from, but he was born about 1682 and married in Moin, Norway. I hope so. That was actually for all Nielsen. Sorry, Sarah. We need one more slide. There are eight new direct ancestors. Oh, we're on the most of them being very smart. There we go. That I cannot order. Sorry. That's okay. No, it's okay. Technical difficulties. It was easy to fix. And this one because you had these lines researched so far, how it's got. I mean, I was telling somebody in Discord, I hope you have a safety harmless out there because you're way out on them, Brownships girl. You're just way out there. She was way, way out there. I'm trying to flip through the people and remember, and there's so many, you know, of the old starters and the Jacobsons. And I'm like, oh, crud, which line was she on again? And I'm trying to follow it out through to, to trace down the breakwalls. The father of Arnie Hamilton. Yes, I see that Thomas. That's incredible. And is this the father then? Is that what he's saying here? Was that, was that what you're saying, Thomas? For Arnie Holt? No, this would be it. That would be the father of Arnie Holt. I think he may have revealed something here. We haven't seen yet. I'm giving away the secrets. Thomas, don't, don't move too fast. You're moving too fast, Thomas. Maybe. I was always kind of stuck on Arnie Hobbelson. I mean, there's a father we looked at that we weren't entirely sure. Because for some reason he seemed to be missing from the farm book where he should have been. That was years ago though. So I haven't looked. So I'm glad to have a real Norwegian working on it. Yeah. Yeah, people have brought the farm books out. We've been looking through those pairs registers. I mean, anyway, we can find anything and, you know, and working in little teams on a lot of it. So. Yes. There's my Anna Matilda, my great-grandmother. Oh, you're a Norwegian? Yes. Born about 1682. Oh, wow. Goes back back. Are we on the same line here? Nope. Nope. Off again. Yeah. Somebody re-number the slides on our captain. Sarah, we need the one before it. Oh. This one? No. No. That's it. That's all I got. Oh, okay. Either one. It'll be fine. You can just talk. It was your sixth-grade grandfather. Yeah, the old Nielsen. Born 1682. Origins. His origins are unknown, but he went to Mowen in 1709 when he married Ganor Berger's daughter. I've never heard that name before. That's awesome. Yeah, they had eight children. And there's eight new direct... Yeah, eight new direct ancestors on that line were added. Yeah. Nice. And also on that line was Ola Embertsen, seventh-grade grandfather. He was born 1642 in Norway. He was a caretaker of a farm in Sandness in 1691. His wife, Ingborg Larsdorter, must have died before 1710 as he's listed with three of the sons in 1710. For the second son took over the farm in Sandness. Awesome. This was great to look at. And, you know, when you see them writing in there instead of Norway, it says, Norge, you know that a real Norwegian was working on it. Yep. We think I'll see that. Can now... Now on to Anna. There we go. Okay, she... Anna... There was a change made to a female ancestor on the tree because it's records show that Johan John Pearson, Wallman, married Anna Anika Johnstorter, not Larsdorter. Okay. So we had an error there. That's good. Yeah, naming conventions were new to a lot of us. Thankfully, we had help with that. We had our experts. Yes, with the Swedish and Norwegian profiles. Anika was admitted to the poor house at the age of 82 and she died there at the old age of 93. We see a lot of that in Sweden and Norway, those early records. Yeah. We do have the profile for... What wrong one? This one. Anna Johnson. I love the picture of her. She looks like she's trying not to smile and be serious, but she's not quite getting away with it. She was a doctor. She was an obstetrician, a chiropractor and a midwife. Wow. Certified by the state of Utah. Back in the day. Wow. And then we have the one, the Anna Johns doctor. Yes. Luckily, she has a pretty good biography written already. Oh, this looks good. There may be some new stuff in there. Mm-hmm. She got lots to read, Scott. I know. I can't wait. I got my grandkids coming in from Deutschland tomorrow for the next few weeks. So until they get here, I'm going to be tied up in this. Mm-hmm. And we tried to put a little of everything in, you know, if we find what the occupation is, we put that. You know, we kind of want a whole picture to bring them back to life a little bit for us. Absolutely. And thank you, Thomas, for that note. That's awesome. Hmm. Gorgon Anderson. I didn't even say that first name correctly. Gorgon, yeah. Gorgon? Gorgon? Goren? Goren, yeah, periodically. Mm-hmm. I mean, somebody in the chat can help us, but... And then this goes back. Is this extended? Is that what you're saying? Well, the only difference they made on this one, now we didn't have a lot of new discoveries on this line, but we did make a correction with the death date. So he was born in 1727 in Sweden and didn't die. Until 1811. So he was 84 years old when he died. He had outlived both of his wives. That's a pretty good longevity. You have a number of those people in your branches. Sure. Julie says your grandkids are going to learn a lot about their ancestors when they're visiting. Oh, Julie, you have no idea. The youngest will be nine. The oldest will be nine. That's the one that she's already deep in the weeds on this. She knows part of her lines back to her great-grandparents by memory already. And even beyond in some cases. So yeah, she's going to be the one who takes over eventually. The family genealogist. Yeah. She and I are very close. So Thomas was saying that G's are always plosive, as in the word golf, for instance, in the region. But Swedish has different names. Okay. I don't know those things. I should. Carolina. Steinberg. Steinberg. Carolina. Yes. We didn't find any new ancestors in that line. But we were able to gain a lot of detailed information about them. Carl Frederick. Stenberg was a gardener who worked in several different locations. He was a gardener. He was a gardener. He was a gardener. He lived in several different locations. He died in 1805 of a fever. He was 60 years old. And Carl's father Carl was also a gardener. Didn't know that. That's great. I love that stuff. I love the stories even more than the names and dates. Yeah. That's what we try to do. We try to make our ancestors people, not just dates and absolutely. So. And then I will say that they had Arnie Hovelson. He does have a new father. Not the mother. And of course that was something that was different for some of us researching too that are used to the United States is that for whole, you know, periods of time, they only listed the father on the birth records. So then if you can't find a marriage record, you have to go find basically what they use as a census to find out what the mother's name was. So, you know, there was one, I had somebody verifying for me. I had found all the birth records for the children. And I was like, okay, is this right? Because there's like six of them. And I'm not seeing a mother's name. And they're like, yeah, they didn't put it on any of them. And then. Your final chart. Oh, look at this. Wow. This is, yeah, this has got everything. So everywhere you see where it's yellow, those were brick walls that were available for us to break down. Those were where you needed an ancestor at. Everywhere you see one, just like a dot. Now you can see on the blow up. It's actually a B. That's a, that's a bounty point claim. That's a brick wall down. So everywhere you have the dots. And here's where you can really see those big concentrations way out on the branches. Like I was talking about. There were some in closer. And actually there are two brick walls that went down. Just like less than an hour before the broadcast. Wow. That were a big surprise. And actually that's going to lead to something quite interesting for you to look at. Okay. Because they found, let me see if I can find that profile for, Sarah doesn't even have this one. Oh, it's just so soon. So I know for. Well, let me get it for Peter Sorenson. Okay. And his father was Soren Lorettson. And that line actually, it looks like goes back to Denmark. Really? I have not had any Danish ancestry that I was aware of. I had some early Finland, very distant, just one little line that popped out. And Denmark, I never heard that. That's fantastic. Yes. And that was two of our experts were working really hard together trying to make sure they had everything there for you. And then I believe another one that we broke down just recently was all Torkelson. Oli. Oli Torkelson. Oli. Oli or Ola. Yeah, I always have a tendency to say that wrong. And so yes, his father was a Torkelson and his mother was an Inger Heraldstotter. Oh, okay. So that should open up. Okay. This is great. Oh, wow. Thomas, that is a huge one. We have looked for that forever. Oh, you are awesome. That's tremendous. I can't wait to take a look at that. And that, that's all of our goodies. That's pretty good. Yeah. And you'll have to, because that one, that, that line really exploded for, for Inger already. Yes. Yeah. Everybody's getting, yeah. As Louis says, the wiki tree is getting better every week at breaking down brick walls. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Hopefully by loses week will be extra, extra good. So we'll break. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and the greatest thing is we all learn from, I know we need to switch here, but we all learn from, I just want to say this because our people are so wonderful. We all learn from each other, you know, every week, I learned something new at least once a week. You know, and we learn how we're adding skill sets. A lot of us learned how to look up the Swedish records this week. We find something cool. We can do with a profile on wiki tree. We didn't know we could do, we always learn something. And, and I'm not going to point out who said this, but I thought it was really cute. One of our participants who is brand new. She said, you know, I just, I've had so much fun. She said, but I sit here and I dig and dig and dig it. I'm digging away with my little spoon. And then I look over and you guys have got your back hose going. And I said, I said, honey, what do you think we did our first week? We were over there with our little spoons. We've just had a lot of weeks now. I mean, you figure 18 guests. We've had a lot of weeks to, to build up and get better. About that first years at this stuff and the, how hard it was to know that, oh, you made a mistake or you got the wrong certificate or it was the same name, somebody different. All that. So do we get to name the pig now? Is this the time? I don't, I don't think it's here to name it. Or do we have the name already, Wendy? Do we have the name that was decided? That the name was picked out. And I believe, I believe CRISPR one. CRISPR. CRISPR. It was going to be like, it was going to be like crispy, like bacon, but he said for genealogy and bacon combined. CRISPR. CRISPR. Okay. This is CRISPR. Thank you. They were talking about that at the beginning. How dare they? I was wondering what they were going on about about CRISPR. This is, you know, bacon. So perfect sausage wouldn't be a good name. So first of all, thank you to everybody who worked on this. This is fabulous stuff. And even though there were some things there, I was already aware of there were plenty of things. I'm not. So I'm really appreciative of that. And I look forward to going through all of this. And you'll hear me on a very sleepy edition of extreme genes next week. Well, thank you, Scott. Thank you for letting us work on your tree. It was great fun. Good luck, Devin. You're next. Yeah. Now we will switch over to, I clicked the wrong button before, but now we will switch over to Devin. Yay. So I will do a brief introduction, Devin. Devin Noelle Lee. So she is 20 years, has 20 years of experience in genealogy, 10 years in journalism. She has the social one at, she is the social one at family history fanatics. Yeah. She specializes in motivating budding genealogists and family history writers. And she has created and published 60 scrap books. Wow. She's written a memoir to ancestor biographies, 120 biographical sketches, and seven family history how-to books, including a recipe for writing family history. And she's a blogger, lecturer, presenter, or a historian and technologist. And she is known for her energetic and passionate presentation style. So that's, that is Devin. Do you, do you have anything to add? Did I, did I cover everything? Well, I think you forgot to say that we are about to cross 50,000 subscribers over on your YouTube channel with this much of a budget. It's just me and my head spin and my kiddos. Awesome. And we are super excited to be able to do this. That means you guys love us. You really love us. I feel a little sally-filled coming on. I know you've had some wiki-triers on a couple of times and you talk about us all the time. I do, I do. They're trying to make me a convert. And I said, I love wiki-tree, but I need more time in my day to get lost on wiki-tree. So you can only do so much. But yeah, I've had Greg Clark from Ontario talk about the fan chart. He does there. And Chris is always fun cutting up in the chat and June is there as well. And after we talked about wiki-tree, three reasons to do wiki-tree and then the fan chart, a number of people from Family History Fanatics signed up and they've been playing around with wiki-tree. So it's a good partnership back and forth letting people know what's going on in the genealogy world. I agree. We appreciate you guys and you. So now we have some interview questions for you. Okay. I feel like I'm on Family Feud. So what got you interested in genealogy? I got to find him. See that guy over there? Yeah, that guy. So he died when I was two. And right after my family moved to Texas from Ohio. And I just grew up knowing all so many stories about Papa that he never really was gone. So he was gone but not forgotten. And then even though I wasn't really active in my church, my church had this, when you're like 17 and 18, I had a challenge to do a little bit of genealogy and then you can have like this big church award. Anyway, I mean, you chose a project and I chose genealogy as my project because it was one of the options. And so I've been doing genealogy since I was in high school. It was really hard in Texas in the 90s because the only thing I had available was calling my grandma. She was my last living relative. And then there was a family feud and I'm talking too long, which was why I'm the social one on family genetics because I talked too much. But it just, it really took off after my father passed away. He passed away in 2004 after meeting my second oldest son. I mean, second oldest child. And they had had a family feud and I was like, all right, he's dead. I'm done with this brick wall. I mean, this bridge. And I'm glad I crossed that bridge because my last living relative on that side told me so much and it's been very healing. And so I'm just addicted to that connectivity that comes from family history. That's probably too long of an answer. I will try to be free. No, no, we love that. You're fine. What was your favorite ancestor? I don't have one. I, but I like to tell everybody I'm related to a professor, a bread man and a drunk. So I don't really have famous ancestors. Yeah. I do like talking about professors. I'm signed because I'm an Aggie and I can kind of relate to what he kind of went through. So I grew up in being a descendant of somebody born in Ohio. So you're supposed to like the Buckeyes. And I hated the Buckeyes because I was sick of the Buckeyes. And I said, I was going to be a Wolverine. Well, did I know that professors I'm signed, he was from a little rinky, little town in Ontario, Canada. And I was able to go stand where he lived and went to one room schoolhouse and he went, graduated from the University of Toronto and then went to the State University of Iowa, which is now the University of Iowa, which was very confusing for a long time. You have to pay attention to name changes in universities. So he graduated there and then he taught at Michigan. And then he taught at Ohio State. And there was kind of a battle royal between the two. And so I'm like, see, I'm just carrying on a family tradition. Only I'm going to side with the Wolverines and not the Buckeyes. And then I became an Aggie. So, you know, Is that a Texas Aggie, Devin? Yep. Texas A&M Aggie. You've been wearing the shirt. This is from the Johnny footballs, Johnny Manziel's year after he went pro. You didn't do so well, but the year Johnny Manziel kicked some bottom. I got this, this shirt and it was a great year. So we need another Johnny at A&M. So if you know of anybody, send them to A&M so I can share. What other questions do you have? Do you, do you have any interesting stories of any of your ancestors? So you don't really have a favorite. Do you have any interesting stories that you've come across that you'd like to share? Well, I've written a hundred and twenty, about a hundred and twenty ancestors, their direct ancestors that go back to my sixth great-grandparent. And how do I say this? So if anybody's familiar with the Pole Dark series and Ross Pole Dark is an imperfect hero, that is my family. I have, nobody is a complete saint and nobody's a complete sinner, but they're human. And I really love to see rags to riches, riches to rags, tribes to detrients, tribes to tragedy and then learn from it also. I don't really have any major interesting stories. I do, I did recently find with the last couple of years from newspaper.com some stories about my police officer ancestor Richard Townley and how he got stabbed during an arrest. He was making an arrest, not he wasn't being arrested the other way around. And it was really interesting to follow a little bit of that newspaper stories. I haven't been able to travel to Hamilton County courthouses to figure out, because there is a court case associated with it, I'd like to get into court records, but that's when my kids graduate. I'll head down there to the courthouse for that. So, yeah. We all, we all love all of our ancestors. They're all part of our family. Now, Devin, when did you first discover Wickey Tree? I've known about it from Roots Tech. I remember actually it was the first year that I went to Roots Tech in 2016 and I got to interview Scott Fisher for my YouTube channel when I was a ding-ding little channel. And so it was really neat to see that he was going to be on the show today. And I learned about you guys there. And then Mag has been like, come on, be on Wickey Tree. And there's lots of people keep been, hey, Wickey Tree, hey, Wickey Tree. And I'm like, one day at a time, one day at a time. But, I mean, I just like to see all the cool things. It's like an experimental lab, like a playground, you know, with all the tools and innovation that's happening on Wickey Tree. That's really nice to see and watch. And the party's on Wickey Tree. Let me just be honest. Yeah, Wickey Tree's ever evolving. We're always changing and growing and going to something new, like a tree, you know? Exactly, exactly. Well, and I really loved like when Greg shared his story of how he worked on the fan chart for Wickey Tree. And he's like, I have this idea. And people are like, go for it. So he played with it. And then everybody said, well, could you do this? And could you do that? And that is the nature of innovation. And so that's where it's at. It's over on Wickey Tree. So that's kind of exciting. Yeah. And collaboration, too. Collaboration. Although I'm going to forewarn some collaborators, there is a mistake on Wickey Tree about my ancestors. Well, we were all about correcting mistakes, too. So it's on the Charles Gordon line. Oh. I'm taking notes. So I would love to be proven wrong that what I think is wrong on the tree, it's perpetuated everywhere. I would love to be proven wrong with some actual records, but I'm pretty sure it's a mistake. It doesn't make sense. And we are all about the accuracy and the air control. And I don't know if it's the line you're thinking of, but I can tell you that our captain has already found something she said needs to be fixed. OK. OK. OK. OK. Maddie is your captain. Yeah, Maddie is your captain. Maddie is good. Well, if you want to find new families for me, it'd be great. I do have to point out. I don't know. When I started building the tree over on Wickey Tree, I just focused on the biological line a little bit because my grandmother was adopted. And so all of her documentations except for her birth certificate, because she has two, all of it is in the long line. And so I didn't add the adopted lines into Wickey Tree, but I did have the biological line because we figured that out through DNA. So just anybody's going, I don't think this is your family. That's what I did. I tried to put a little note there to give people a little heads up on that. So anyway, so what are your current brick walls that should I pull up my tree and tie it? But you really want both of them. So the one that I don't know that anybody's going to solve, but you can take the gauntlet thrown down is William Anderson, who was a Swede who migrated to Missouri. Howard countering Missouri. And the only time I see him in three records, I see him in 1875 census in Missouri, 1880 census in Missouri down the street from what became, I don't know if they got married. I don't know if they got married. I knew they were down the street and they created my biological great-grandmother, Agnes Anderson. And then they disappear. In fact, there's a black hole from 1881 to time she shows up back in Ohio near her uncle. And so that's kind of a mystery. I'm clueless. I'd love somebody to tackle that. Other brick walls, my Joseph Geisler from Baden, Germany. I don't know anything about his parents and his siblings at all. He seems to have just dropped off the face of the earth in Columbus, Ohio. And then he happened to die pretty quick. So I didn't create a lot of records. Those are two ones that stand out. I'll tell you the lines that I would love to find. I think I have a GAR relative up the clay ball line, but I can't prove it yet. And then I have a UEL, United Empire Loyalist, up the comfort line. And somebody said that if there's a mistake somewhere and so I haven't pursued that because I haven't had any time to figure that out. And I think the Ontario-Canada line is the comfort in the Zempstein. So if you find other brick walls, I'm sure they're there. And we definitely do try and find the military ones, I especially. So, you know, I'd like to find the revolutionary ones. And so if they're there, we'll find them. Yeah. But my Germans, now, you want to, if anybody want to tackle my German, oh, you know, I wouldn't say this. So I had a cousin who hired a genealogist, and I don't like to quote, but he hired a genealogist to go into the church records in Gillersheim to find the mocks, the puse acres, and the chenophiles. And I think I'm saying chenophile, right? But anyway, the genealogist sent us back a paper tree and no documentation, no pictures, no nothing. That's all I had was just like a hand-drawn family tree and she swears all of it is proven in the Gillersheim and the Gillersheim records. I've never seen a Kirchenbach for that area and so it's just supposition right now. So if anybody finds, I mean, that would be a great place to find some actual documents to see the actual names. So, Germans, Gillersheim. That's good. Get on it, wiki-triers. There you go. In the chat earlier, they said some Germans were there. So I would like some actual evidence for this paper tree and never, never give somebody just a paper tree. No. Anyway, so you question. No, and we are definitely about the sources, so. And I think you've already mostly answered this, but is there anything else you'd like to get out of participating this week? I want to see somebody else write some stories. I mean, as you know, I like to write stories. I want to see some of the biographies that people write. I promise not to judge, but it would just be nice to see some other styles. So I'm like particularly interested in the biographies, I'll be honest. Biographies, you know, tackle those Germans. I know I have a viewer who definitely wants me to figure out my Swedish line, but I just haven't seen any DNA hints for the Swedish lines. Who knows, we have our Swedish experts, so we never know what's going to happen. I know, I know. Yeah, they were busy on Scott's lines. Yeah, I don't know if three records is enough to get any traction, but that would be really cool. Like I might have to give somebody a hug sometime if they find that. You'd be surprised what they can find with just a little bit of information. Well, as far as the team members go, can we use any pictures that you have on your primary tree? Yeah. Ancestor pictures, or in your blogs? Yeah. I do have a blog called Geisler Genealogy Blogspot, but it has a lot of broken links, so I wouldn't go over there. But if it's on family search or ancestry, have at it. Okay. Just tell people that I put it there. I get really irritated when people take a picture and don't say where it's from, but this is wiki tree. I know you're going to cite it. Yes, we will. As a matter of fact, we make them take the pictures down if they don't cite it. DNA. Now, we do have a DNA expert that generally does confirmation statements, so is that something you're interested in having done on your profile? Sure. Why not? Okay, so we'll give you the information on how to share your DNA matches. Okay. I think I put on my profile my GEDMATCH kit number already. Cool. I don't know if that is what you need. The starting point, I think. Actually, like, yeah. Who did you test for? Which company? All of them. Okay, so if you have one on the ancestry, that would be the easiest. Okay. And we'll send you the information on what you have to do. Okay. That's great. Well, Andy is the DNA nerdy guy on the channel, so he just makes me test everywhere. I test it everywhere. So, do we have any questions from everybody who's watching or do we have any questions from Devon or Scott, if you have any questions that lingered. Oh, by the way, they were saying that CRISPR is a... Hold on. What were they saying about CRISPR is a... Oh, I blanked. A gene editing tool as well. Yes. CRISPR is... That's true. Yes. So that's one of the bunches. Yes. That is a gene editing tool. I thought I was a refrigerator because you put stuff in the CRISPR. That was the peak it started. That's the question I have. Well, you were here last week, but the deal is that just... She wasn't here. 10 days ago, my brother-in-law, my wife's brother decided he didn't want all the crap in his house and the family. And he knows where all family crap lands. So he said, you've got to have the pig that was my wife's grandfather's fourth birthday gift in 1902. My wife doesn't want the pig. I'll have the pig now and maybe with the grandkids coming we can find one of them who'll fall in love with CRISPR. There you go. I'm hoping. We'll be a pig dating site. I don't know. I don't think there's a place in our house here for CRISPR. You have to find a maneuver. You have to find a new home. Well, just make sure you take a picture of the CRISPR. And then you can get them a new home. That way everybody can remember it. That's exactly it. The new home might be in the landfill not far from here, but the pictures will live on forever. Julie says maybe we can use CRISPR to grow his little ear back? Maybe. He has a little chip out of one ear. I have the chip here somewhere. It looks like it's gone. Where did the chip go? It's here somewhere. We'll take care of it. We did have a question. Lynette asked, did you create a Jed Match master kit? I don't know. Let me rephrase that. I didn't. I'm pretty sure my husband did. And I need to find out. Okay. He's the Jed Match master. I look at it and go, I'm going to stick with records. And they want to know if you have any Chotskis we can name. Do I have any? I came completely unprepared. Nothing to name? She wasn't forewarned about the big. We'll see. I'm like, okay, I'm going to use your terminology. Okay. I'm like crap landing in my house. We've moved around so much. So we've down side so much. And that's why I made the comment about taking a picture because I can't get out. I just got it in June. I get it. I got it. We just moved here from New Mexico. After my husband lost his job in April, but then he got a new job and we moved out here to New Mexico. And I actually, I'm missing things. I don't have any spare things lying around. I'm missing things like a very beautiful oriental scroll. It's really cool. I've got to find it. I hope I don't lose it. You know, the chances are we can make room back here for the pig. And then everybody can come watch Family History Fanatics and say hi to Christopher. If your grandkids don't want it, we'll give it a new home. We'll see what happens. Because again, Scott was one of my first interviews ever. He was a great interviewer. He's a good interviewer. He's one of the things I've never told anyone. I think I edited that out to make you look good. It's good to me, Devin. Well, unless we have any more questions from the chat or any questions from anybody here or any comments at remarks, I don't know, we'll probably head off for the night. Thank you all. I'm having trouble not going over and seeing what people are doing. This is torture. I'm sure people already started. No peekies. No peekies. All right, Wednesday. Same time, same place. And also Friday we have our Friday date night. Saturday we have our 10 a.m. Eastern Time live cast with the weekly updates. And Wednesday we will be revealing Devin's tree and then who's next? I think it's Nathan. Nathan feeling good with I don't know if he'll be on because he's at his time zone is Well, if you can convince him to come on at that time. It's just one night. He's young. No. On that note, we will see you guys next time. Thank you all for watching. Check. Don't forget.