 Architecture, broth casting from three different locations again. Myself, if we can get the first picture up for that, the first extra picture up for that one. We're following our cross-cultural culinary connoisseurs, Joe and Clara, who are moving on to their next big stop, which is getting closer to the ocean again. This is the harbor city of Rothstock where they're moving. And second extra slide, please. It's coastal, so this is the situation we actually currently have here. There's something interesting that Soto and I were contemplating about, which are the beach basket. And so, where our show is looking, and we're still in the COVID-19 quads, we're basically looking for clues for a better future. And we have been starting to find out that they actually might lie in the past. And so that's today's guest, our Soto. Again, back in Honolulu, hi, Soto. Hello, Martin. And we have, hello, Soto, and we have our guest, as we're bidding towards a long-term friends and business partner, Larry Stricker, back in his Mesa Valley vineyard, in California, so good to have you back in the area. Hello, Martin. So let's bring up our action first slide here. And it's based upon a picture that you added sharing with us, Soto, at the very top left, and tell us the whole context. Well, those are two small mini buses that were actually made to ferry people between the Kahala Hilton Hotel and Waikiki back in the 1960s when the Kahala Hilton Hotel still was brand new. And it was considered too far away from where all the action was in Waikiki, so they ferried people in these buses to get them there. And it seems absurd now that it was considered that far away, but it was. But we also see here, too, that modes of transportation are still important on Oahu. And since we're going to be talking about Coalina and what was built as the Ihilani Hotel, we're also going to be seeing that the train system that's being installed right now, being built right now for the city of Honolulu, will not extend that far, but that is something that we'll be bringing Coalina closer to where the action is in urban Honolulu. Yeah. And as we've been using modes of transportation as vehicles for a while, I want to point out that I was happy to see that these old trolleys back in the 60s, actually have upward windows, or heavy rail does not have that anymore. Initially, we had a waste and painted on now a rainbow, and the only thing that tries to get strictly negative look tropical, and it's pretty much a hermetic invasive thing, so that's sort of bad. And talking invasive and non-tropical exotic, so the next slide. We saw this online, and again, with our analogies of ours, the mobile and the immobile, and the top right is obviously a PIM, 1993, or this is a little later model, a Lincoln town car. And we compare this to the rendering at the very bottom, which is what the recent developer had put out, what they wanted to do, and it made us get loose pimples as much as we saw what they did to the Lincoln up there, because there's dramatic changes to the original condition, which luckily stayed the current one. And next slide for that, because the situation that we're talking about is this one here, and this is an elegant gentleman, your friend and partner, business partner, Ron Lindgren, Larry, who is walking down the stairs of your very elegant, open Linai and lobby, so obviously that has kept including the very much vegetation that you guys signature-wise always build into the architecture, literally and figuratively into the slantest trot. So we're very happy to see that still alive here. It's reminiscent of both Kahawa and Monolani, with the staircase and the openness to, on both sides, with the views out to the landscaping in the ocean beyond. Absolutely. Next slide is a picture I was able to take somewhere in 13 or so, before the recent renovation, which is generally good, but little tear drop here, these were some very fine pieces of artwork from, you know, even earlier area than you're alluding to Kahawa and the good old six season, they're gone. So that's kind of a little bit of a tear drop, but again, one can bring them back. So, you know, I would like to see them again. Would you guys actually have any choice to recommend artwork, Mary, for the climb? Not really. I think we had, we had a glass alpaca flower, a huge scale for the, originally for the lobby, but once the construction started, there was very little budget for artwork. So that typically that comes from some benefactor after the hotel opens. Another artwork, let's go to the next slide, share with us a little bit more, what that is. This is actually the Monterey pond. And we see again, the lobby connection to the guest rooms and the openness, the washness of the planting and how we, again, similar to the Kahawa on the right with the the sequest and the the animation of the water feature. And that animation comes in large part from the creatures that live in it, particularly at the Kahawa hotel, where there still are purposes to this day from when it was originally designed and first built in the 60s. That was always a feature and they're still there today, even though the bridge across their pond has been redeveloped and looks very different. Yeah. And the pictures bottom left, I took in when I first saw your project in 13s and obviously for German, you know, man-raised in a hotel lobby or something very exotic for sure. And again, at the top left is the picture that Ron and I stopped by there at the sunset. We're very happy to see that beautiful marriage between a built in the natural environment being more than intact. So once again, through those two, of course, the operation. Next slide. Well, this is what you see when you're standing in the main core of your building, the big atrium with a glass roof. This is a picture I've been taking again together with Ron. And he had shared with us that little detail of having been shooting for 100 percent, having your vegetated trough bellow straight and dart rail from every floor. And you ended up having to be happy with 50 percent for every other one. And here, other than this and other projects, we're seeing them, you know, living in Elias. The maintenance is not using, you know, cost as an excuse to say there, you know, too complicated to copy to operate. We people seem to be very aware that they are part of killing towards and so they're keeping it. And that's absolutely wonderful to see. That's always the case when it when it comes to value engineering, that the contractor is always looking to save the owner some some dollars. So we've found that sometimes you have to shoot higher. And I mean, your original design have more planting than landscaping. And then you that you can afford some straw dogs to be pulled out and still end up with the feeling that you want to incorporate in the design. Absolutely. And here is I came back one more time, actually after my trip with Larry. And by that time, I had listed this canoe up there into the lobby. So it's loading up there. And again, the comparison of mobile and immobile. Last show we got this. Well, there was no such thing as a really a town car. But then there are these two examples, which are rather exotic by themselves because they were not the street versions. They're kind of, you know, out of the out of the normal out of the box cars. And so you're pretty kind, Larry, as you are. Anyways, and saying, you know, you don't mind a little accent. They were adding to the reveal in between your the Dupal columns, which is sort of this new gagging wooden inlay. And that's certainly, you know, not really in your face. It's still rather humble and, and, and, and, you know, again, not superimposed over a year, but kind of trying to, you know, be within your language. Next slide, however. They they have another piece of, you know, artwork in the lobby that you see at the bottom down there. The city I'm right now. So during our new home, I'm talking pretty close to Hamburg, which is the more famous Harvard town. And in the top right, you see one of his architects, who's Karsten Roth, who is the proud owner of the 1960s town car. Excuse me, Lincoln Continental called it at that time. And that's what we obviously know from Henry, Henry having driven that a few months before his tragic assassination in Texas. So there's no doubt that, you know, 60s Lincoln Continental are absolute collectibles and they're they're very highly appreciated in value for that reason. So next slide. And on the on the left, we want to these these posters of movies show that while the town cars from the 80s aren't maybe as appreciated, yes, as the ones from the 60s, but your architecture, as we've been pointing out, we call you guys the best post-modern architect. And we also, 1980s town car has been appreciated in the movie Lincoln Liar with Matthew McConaughey, which was shot with a mistake in 2011, I believe. But let's talk a little bit about your your project itself has been the backdrop of movies. And you guys talk a little bit about the one you see. Well, one of them, of course, is this blue crush fantasy of female surfers. And Larry, you pointed out that in the plot, one of them is supposedly working as a maid at the Higilani Hotel, which in reality, you don't have young blonde howly women working as maids and hotels in Hawaii. Right. But there's also this other film, Snatched, which stars Goldie Hawn. And Martin, you pointed out that the Higilani Hotel in that situation was supposed to be some other place. It wasn't actually portraying itself. It was supposed to be another tropical location. And Mount Elani itself, back going back to that predecessor, has been in movies and TV shows, too. One of them being the film Black Widow. But I also remember my sister-in-law and my brother and their daughter being extras for some TV show at Mount Elani when my brother was working there. So you do see Hollywood making use of these buildings that we're talking about. I think the Mount Elani was was home to Kevin Costner. He was shooting Waterworld. So he was there six months staying in the bungalows. Yes. And carrying on a notorious affair with one of the women who was working as a stunt person, I believe. But we won't get into all of that. Sure. Yes. And let's go to the next slide. And let's continue to talk about fame and, I guess, celebrity status in the world of architecture. And you, Mary, share a little bit with us, your incontinence with architects of that kind. Like Koryo Edo, who we see up here. And also Shibuya Odawn, you were sharing with us, Brian. You know, we had done several projects in Japan. And one of the more notable was the ski resort on the island of Hokkaido called Tomomu. And the first, we did the master plan for the 10,000 beds ski resort, which included several hotels. We did build the first hotel and a water park with a pool the size of the football field. And during this time we spent on Hokkaido did meet Kadao Ando and he designed the ski resort that was, in the summer, was a very desirable place. And a lot of Japanese weddings took place out there. So Kadao designed a beautiful chapel at the resort. It was interesting learning his philosophy and how similar to the expressionism and the cleanliness of the design and not encumbered by a lot of decor. Yeah, that you can go to the next generation we see Koryo Edo up here. And we were saying in the volume one show that there are some people of evidences and reasons. There are obvious why Iilani maybe has been treated as the most original. Here on the client-centric developer's left side they're saying Koryo Edo has been part of the developing team as well as the client. And they express in written form that we quote here that they're very aware of you guys' legacy. Here is that library project that's most famous for Koryo Edo's body of work. So again, we popped in that stretch limousine town car and it was synonym for luxury, for commodity and comfort of the true American kind. And so are obviously your guys' reward projects. Again, grace to see. And you guys, you know, your celebrity status is going to be basically cemented by Eric Ricker who's making a movie about your guys' work after he has done one initial one about Julius Schulman who's your photographer. And then currently coming out into the movie series is one about the legacy of air stream trailers called Elimination. The next is a movie about your guys' work which is another great compliment that just shows again how much of a true American classic you guys are. So let's go to the next slide. While Exoticist Keith is an expert, expert Suzanne has repeatedly reminded us of this sort of tragic five, six, seven year remodel interval, we're saying here that hotels are places of memory, obviously, and maybe it's just a piece that there's a really good source to begin with to keep that legacy on all doors over the generation so that every generation can have the same memory in a pure authentic way. And so you are a father of two children there and we're grown now and so I am. And my kids are there at the very top. Joey and Lenny, part of their illegal driving training has been in that town car. So again, they will always remember the town car for what it was and obviously wouldn't like to see pins, which shouldn't really happen in your case here but in other projects. But this is a picture again for me in 2013 when I first saw, and forgive me for the, it was probably an eyesaw or something like for the quality of the image. But when you look close, as a bad thing, you don't see the vegetation. We are traditionally incarcerated vegetation so they're reanimated yet, but you also don't see the wooden inlay in the reveals of the columns. So again, we're, we're just saying again in the next intervals, maybe you want to strip back again and stay even closer to the original because the original and we do something in next slide there in the last volume one you have said is actually a call of the news rendering that shows even more how you originally imagined the project. And that we will see in the next slide and share with us a little bit in detail. Yeah, I think again, a lesson we learned from our previous projects is that if you want vegetation and planters on the Linais, that you need to start with a design that incorporates more than you want because it seems it's always, always a target of the value engineering to eliminate, it is a costly item and it is part of our vocabulary. It's part of being in Hawaii to have the vegetation, the beautiful flowers and that's what we were able to retain from the rendering here, you see that we showed them at every level and we were able to retain 50% of them which still varies the feeling. Yeah, and that way it looks more like arch in nature than arch in texture which is great because it would be more a tropical rhombic rise. And next slide, so to share with us a little bit and talking about the history of the place let's talk about the anticipated future of it a little bit. Well, the entire Coalina resort area was constructed in what was originally a very deserted and far away location and this aerial photograph leaves out to the immediate right the presence of Campbell Industrial Park and that was built 60 years ago in this location because it was so far away and then as time passed obviously civilization crept out to it. What we see also is that originally those three bays that were carved out or there's more than that, but the coastline originally did not have those sandy coved beaches. All of those are artificially built and they were built specifically to be the basis for a series of hotels for an entire hotel complex as well as marinas. None of that has ever been fully developed out or built out the way it was originally imagined back when Coalina was first built. Yeah. And we're seeing in the discussion before the show that maybe, you know, the architecture that followed after the Iulani Larry said they were more about, you know, obeying through the code and the regulations and really understanding the philosophy behind your projects and that's why they sort of mimicked the stepping down in the pitch roof that everything else felt pretty short and that's kind of unfortunate but maybe not as unfortunate as what we might see in the future which is the next slide and you guys tell me what you think about the progression of the resort just being called the Atlantis. Well the Atlantis is part of a chain of extremely expensive hotels which incorporate huge water features, aquariums, etc. This is the first rendering of the Atlantis which was proposed for Coalina to be just a stone throw from Iulani and it had this arched pass-through which mimicked the one which was built in Dubai as I remember and unfortunately we also see a little picture of the Disney Iulani resort which again does not follow the original design requirements that Iulani did and this looks kind of preposterous to my mind but I think if we go to the next slide we see what was replaced what replaced that proposal was one even more preposterous which is this one the sort of wavy, silvery, large, huge, immense grossly overdone building that again is supposed to be an Atlantis hotel I personally don't think it's very likely that this is ever going to be built the current financial situation and particularly the tourism the loss of tourism due to COVID-19 means it's very unlikely that this is ever going to disfigure that particular area of Coalina and I'm sure Larry you have opinions on this as well in addition to the dogs parking in the background who sound like they're lamenting this as well. Right, right. So I think they definitely in close to out of Disney and Disney with this project I hope we did I hope COVID saved us from this one. Yeah, not only do the show the rendering of the public brutally how the Lenni's don't deserve the name or their voice out to me or to have to sit on but I think that one of the cool loveliness of the project reminds me of the last 2,000 towns are loveliness that basically killed the tradition of town cars at all so I guess hopefully this project is killed as well as you guys did and until the next slide to end on public note as always I found that the owner and developer of the new step is basically pride himself of being published in things like Walter from magazine which we have been lucky ones and so we want to take the chance to say up there is a very early illustration of things like Evo I which is obviously a tribute to you guys work structural expressionism planted vegetative troughs and while we were suggesting that people say you're just daydreaming this is maybe not going to happen on the way out and you know thank you Larry you saved me because go to the next slide at my very first visit I saw the situation that I asked Ron when we went there again to position there and this is for maybe the ultimate of tropical exotic penetration that should be mandated by coast and has to be anywhere on the Hawaiian islands because it's all open and it has plants as fenestration and a curtain and it couldn't be much better than that and so this is what you see also then bottom right it's very much you know the plants are green here but it's again more tree texture architecture very much a tribute again to your original proposal of Elani and to top it in with one more the last slide next slide and last slide here this is one of our emerging talents Jonathan Quack who is also very much continuing your guys legacy your structural expressionism at its best as part of the generalism development and downtown and the next steps we go is that the instill of the frame the three-dimensional frame could be even more flexible could be even tensile and deep membranes rather than hard surfaces so once again and the car we see in there at the bottom right is actually now a rebirth of they're not reviewing the counterpart but they're reviewing the continental and this is the current version of the continental and I sniffed that picture when it's parked at Coalino when I was there at the last time so that one was actually I guess solved it again so all things come full circle and we're at the end of the show so thank you Larry so much again for sharing your legacy with us and also having pointed out how much of an inspiration for the future it will be so we hope to have you again with us at some point we stay in touch and we dig out more projects and want to hear you and as a year and I would so until then thank you Larry okay stay safe and sound out there and I hope your videos can fully open at some time very soon really thank you okay until then bye bye everyone