 Welcome to the 1878 FM podcast. The boys of the band is back. The boys are all back together and what a day for it. It is a bad episode 17. Happy New Year to everybody. Happy New Year. What a start. If we just rewound 12 months, we'd lost the Brighton then as well the first game. Can we go back like a few weeks when the well cut was on and it was just the greatest time of my life. It was just beautiful. It was just the great time. But here's the thing though. If it weren't for last night is that we ended what was an awful 2022 and we all said this last time. 2022 was dreadful in most of our lives for various different things. But we actually ended on a positive and that much unexpected draw that we got against City. And I thought maybe this is a new door. Maybe a change is coming. It's going to be 2023. We're going to see more of Bush so to speak. That came out wrong but you know what I mean. And then also results would go better and then suddenly just... You know after the City game I had this feeling and I don't have back Frank. I have. He makes some horrific decisions at times and all that. But I had the feeling after the City game. You know when you're just thinking about games and you're going where did that come from? Can we get momentum and then it just does. Remember us getting a draw of Chelsea last December and thinking. Right okay, David doing well and we went there and we dug in and we got a point. We played the kids as well didn't we? We didn't expect to get anything and put the kids out and actually they did really well. And then we had Brighton at home in the next game he lost. You just go out. How can 12 months in a period in which I think we got 35 points in a calendar year which is utterly atrocious. You know but back where we are and I don't want to lay this all on Frank Lampard. He got it wrong last night. He made a decision making last night was shocking for me. To change it. To change from a back three that had done so well at Man City. To go to that side that he put out last night. I get he had to change on on and we know that. He was suspended but to change the team the way he did. And then to not even address it a half time. I think it was awful by Frank Lampard. But let's have this right Andy Bush. This isn't all on Frank Lampard though is it? You know what someone on Twitter a fellow of Atonian on Twitter this morning described it eloquently as a triangle of shite. Everton's a triangle of shite. No no no no no. I copyrighted circle of shite many years ago. This is but see Baz knows you'll give me the plaudits. You can't have international copyright ownership rights over. No it's not. It only goes as far as Ronco. It's just everton. It's just an everton circle of shite. I said this. It's what happens all the time. Manager comes in. He's not very good because he's appointed by awful people. He buys dreadful people because of the people in the background. We get beat. He gets sacked. It goes again. Bats the circle of shite. Trade mark 2015. Thank you very much. Back to you Mr Bush. Unless you're going to get a protractor out or a compass and start quoting other geometrical stuff. I don't argue with the circle of shite. That is a thing. The triangle of shite as far as the Evertonian circle of shite is the three sides. It's the board who are culpable. Frank, let's be honest. We love him. He's a lovely guy. Tactically he's not quite there. And then the players need to have a proper look at themselves as well. You look at the three sides. It's not one particular cure for this. There's three things contributing to the triangle of shite. I think that fuels the circle of shite copyright. That's fair. Dave, there is something in that. We've had seven or beyond our eighth permanent manager since Meshiri coming. Or certainly since he bought the club. This is always included. Has everyone of them been wrong? Have you just not done things correctly? Is it anyone's surprise that we can't score goals? We did all city when the window shut and said we needed another striker. Did we not describe? Was the analogy not the boxing day scenario? Whereby they're literally stood outside the door of the for sale shop for a striker. Knowing exactly what they're after in the same way that if I'm going to the next sale on boxing day, which I never do by the way, but I know people that do, I've got better things to do, right? But they know exactly that they want to go in and they want to get that jacket in a medium, whatever, you know, long. And they've got it all sorted out. They've been in there the day before. They know exactly. They're straight in. They get it and they're straight out again. That's what we needed to do with the transfer window. We all said that, you know? And already now, I mean, I think, was it not you that said last night on our WhatsApp group, the fact that, you know, because he had price on there and he also had Ellis Sims on there. Was this was this in many ways a statement, you know, to everybody, the fact that he needs help and he needs backup? And actually, I thought Isaac Price did all right when he came on last night. But is it not sort of saying the fact that he desperately needs reinforcements? Because and already here we are at the time of recording. It's what the fourth of Jan. We've already missed days where we should have actually been spending money. We could have actually done our business already. He could have literally been a case of actually having the whole deal done subject to bloody checking out your basket on New Year's Day. And then we're done. But here you know what's going to happen is that we're going to get to the end of January and we'll have absolutely nothing again. And we're going to go into what is undoubtedly going to be a worse situation than we found ourselves in last season, which we only just managed to escape by the skin of our teeth. And the reason being that actually our squad and our team is actually weaker now than it was this time last year without a doubt. 100%. I mean, like we said it before, like if you can if you can have a scare like last season, which we had a traumatic effect on all of us, and then you don't take steps to make sure that that never happens again. And then you find yourself in the same situation that you've only got yourself to blame. And that's why I feel quite differently about the malaise compared to last last year was like a real shock. And it's like, oh my God, we could possibly go down. Now I just think I don't think fucking, but I just think no, you got yourself to blame. Do you know what I mean? No, you're right. And I mean, I'll be honest. I don't think like that. I felt like this for like four years. Like every year for four years, I felt like we were going to get relegated. It just felt like it was inevitable for me. I don't know why it just it just did. And maybe because I'm I am a pessimist, but it just feels like that it feels like if you don't change something, but I don't think it really matters this year. I don't think it doesn't matter who we buy or what we change. As far as I'm concerned, the people who run the football club will get it wrong again. They'll bring some Janie Man striker in or some kid in too late. Like, like almost like last season with not bringing it up. I mean, last season we had we had two weeks. We fluffed about for a couple of days. It's time to get partners, which was never going to happen. And no one wanted them. Then we waited two weeks. Then we brought Frank Lampard in, who quite frankly, I thought was very unqualified for the job, for what we actually needed in terms of where we were. And then we again, deadline day, bringing in people like Deli Alley and Donnie van der Beik. I mean, because they're really the kind of people you need in a fight, aren't they? Donnie van der Beik, for God's sake. I mean, you know what I mean? I mean, I'm not. It's in all in hindsight, but they're not exactly plays that you go. They're going to do an amazing job for us and save Evan. We got out. We got out by the scruff of our neck, you know, when. What happened? Nothing. Everyone just sort of sat there smiling and went, oh, this is good, wasn't it? I'll be honest with you lads, every time I see someone on Twitter replay, put the video off the Crystal Palace game, a little bit of me dies inside. It's like, why? Why are you all glorifying this? Absolutely horrendous night where the club once again survived and you're making it out like it was amazing. For years, we've been the brunt of like so much laughter because of, you know, DVDs of the great escape and all that kind of thing. Wimbledon, it's like, why have we got such low expectations and why have we accepted it for so long? It's been conditioned. We've been conditioned. We've managed our expectations. To go back to Bas, to your question before in so much as have all these managers been wrong or have all these managers, you know, that they can't all have got it completely wrong. You know, and we're talking about a lot of very qualified people, you know, some you may prefer style wise tactically, et cetera, et cetera to others. But ultimately, we're talking about a lot of people who are very qualified in the game, right? And not one of them has been able to make it work. And so therefore, you know, you would have to, you would have to side with, with, with, you know, what is clearly saying and what many people are clearly saying that actually the root problem goes far beyond the 10 year of manager who happens to be in any particular point in time, you know, for his given 18 months or a year or whatever, whatever that period of time is, which is a very small period of time on the whole grand scheme of things. But all that considered, and otherwise we perpetuate the circle of shite or the triangle of shite or whatever we want to want to call it. Because in my opinion, and it may be unpopular, but in my opinion personally, I think that the worst thing we could possibly do now is chop Frank Lampard. Genuinely. I don't know. I think he's I think he's done Dave. I don't think they're not playing for him. I get that Andy. But personally, you know, and this, and you know, listen, this is this is what these these these discussions are all about. We're not intended to. And by the way, this isn't some bullshit kind of set up radio thing whereby you argue this. That's so that it's more interesting. Give us a call and you know, text in and let us know what you think. That's bollocks. We genuinely haven't discussed this before we come on. This is my own personal opinion. I think that the last the last thing we should do is get rid of Frank Lampard at this moment in time. Because as we all agree, the problems go far beyond him. They're historic. And I think the issue is, what is the alternative? And that's my question to you, Andy, is that if I felt that there was a viable and decent and better alternative out there waiting in the wings who could swoop in and could save us because ultimately, Premier League survival is the only is the only thing that's actually important here. Right. That's the only thing. At this period in time. Forget about playing nice football or whatever or what we're going to look like. Those days are behind us, I think. For now. For now. Those days are noble for now. Just about survival for now. But I can't see anybody who's actually going to give us a better situation within the whole rotten framework that exists at the moment. And that is my issue. I agree with you. I love Frank Lampard. And I am eternally grateful for him. He did save us last season. And I agree with Ped. It's embarrassing when people put up the videos and stuff of the palace game. Because we need to be moving on from that. That should be like a close call. That's like having a video of nearly getting taken out by a train on a level crossing. Absolutely. It's not something you post about, is it? Not at all. But the thing that's changed for me just a little bit with Frank is I just feel like he doesn't quite have a clear grasp of how to get out of this situation. I just worry that they've given up playing for him a little bit as well. And I just feel like something has just changed a little bit in it. And I don't know what that is. And that's why I feel like I do today. No, I think Andy, I think you're right. I mean, I sort of agree with both of you. I agree with Dave because ultimately, again, it's just you're pointing the finger almost at the wrong person completely. No, no, I agree. You know what I mean? But I agree with you, Andy. Well, the only thing that does matter is surviving. But I've had this argument before in the past where last season at the Arsenal game where the fans were doing protest and stuff like that. And people were like, you can't leave your seat because it's about winning this game. And it's like, yeah, but you have to ultimately, you have to cut out the issue at the club. It's like, it's not about one game and it might even be about relegation this year. Because ultimately there's a bigger problem. But Andy, I agree with what you've just said because Frank Lampard's got it into his head at some point at the beginning of the season. That actually what we did at the end of last season is the wrong way to play. And the way he wants to play, it can't be done with these players. And I think we saw that last night. We saw last night a very well coached side come to Gullison, not get out of second gear, by the way. He just rolled round Gullison last night. And that's what really pissed people off. And you saw this evidence team that just didn't have a clue how to play. And they've been playing that way all season and have had six weeks off to try and get some out of it. And on Saturday we showed how we played. That's evidence for me under Frank Lampard. That's a battle in society. That's why you've got Connor Cody. That's why you've got James Tarkowski. That's why you have Ben Godfrey for the intensity to wind people up. You have Damari Gray. His skill set is playing on the counter attack, not stuck out on the wing. And he changes it within two days. And he puts in Dros, like Mac Neil, and Bess and Tom Davis, who I think maybe should just go into skateboard now full time. It's not to me. What I would say is I agree with both of it. And I know exactly what Andy's saying as well. That's what I'm trying to say with. And I always remember Chris actually, when I've said this before from the red men, and we were talking about it. I think it might have been Marko Silver, who I... Lo love? And still love? I do still love me. You've got the tattoo? No, but I think Marko... I mean, it looks like Tony Stark. I think Marko's a good coach and he's doing very well. But I remember having a chat with Chris and he was like, the problem is, there's backing your manager and saying we're not sucking him. And there's also leaving the wrong manager in place just because you like him. And it was like, you know, I think the truth is somewhere in between there. I do like Frank. I think he tries to get us. I think he wants to do well. Put those decisions making, that decision making. If he'd have just gone in the summer, we play four, three, three, and this is how we play. And we play it every week. And we can all sit there and go, this is how he plays. Like Martinis. I was done with Martinis after the bar 18 months. I hated Everton under Martinis. They were terrible to watch for me. Right? But I could sit there and go, this is Roberto Martinis'r team. If someone said to me, how do Everton play under Martinis? I could say, well, that easy. We have 800 passes. Do you knock it around the back? I think we only lost a possession about four times under Martinis. But we never won. But if someone said to me, how do Everton play under Frank Llanparg? I honestly couldn't tell you what we're trying to do. And I don't know whether that's all on him or it's the mismanagement of the football club by the board. Or if it's just the chain of average players that Everton have managed to buy. It's probably going back to the triangle of shite, all of it mixed together. But I want the manager to go, this is what we do. On Saturday, five at the back, three at the back, five at the back, sound. He played against one of the best teams in Welsh football and limited them to three attempts at goal, really, three proper genuine attempts at goal. And he changes it a couple of days later against Brighton at Godduson. Brighton had a good side, but he'd lost two games less than Everton before last night. Two. And where Satie is saying, where terrible, they'd lost six, we'd lost eight. And yet he changes the whole thing, Dave. But I go back to something you said before in so much as you mentioned getting rid of the wrong man, or the wrong manager, or however you phrased it. I said, keeping the wrong man in place too long. Keeping the wrong man in place, there you go. If I'm going to quote you, I should at least get it right. Do you think all I got there was wrong person? And I'm not saying Frank Lampard is definitely the wrong person. No, and I'm not. But here in lies the absurdity with the situation that we find ourselves in under machinery is that, you know, you get rid of what might be the wrong man in charge and bring in someone else, right? Who then turns out to be the wrong man in charge. So then we bring someone else in who's completely different. Who then turns out to be the wrong man in charge. And so on, and so on, and so on, right? Because ultimately it's like one of those things. You know when you've got like two mirrors sort of against each other and it's just this never-ending corridor of shite, right? That's what we're talking about here. Head actually came up with corridor of shite back into town. I'll be honest, I didn't do that. That's not one of mine. That sounds like something out of the matrix, doesn't it? Corridor of shite. Yeah, to be fair, yeah. He was supported by Tiny Temper. Tiny Temper. Now Dave, you're up. On the way to Scunthorpe. But do you know what I mean, though? Whereby it's becoming a thankless task. It's becoming an absolute thankless task. But Dave, right. And your gentlemen's opinion on this, like nada, than me and Peth, but we've seen a team last night that cost around the same amount of money as what Alex of Obie. I'm not saying that Alex of Obie has been good on the lamp. I just mean that team has put together for roughly the same amount of money as what Alex of Obie was. And yeah, as Pett said before, they strolled around and threw. They decided at four it was done. If they'd just gone, now we're carrying on. They would have scored seven or eight. They needed it for the gold difference, they could have got it. They could have, right. But that is a result of planning. They lost Graham Potter in September who had built that thing with Graham Barber and some other really good people at Brighton. They built this thing. They buy players from all over the world. They don't go. As he played 20 games in the Premier League, they just buy them. Casido, five million quid, strolled around the pitch last night. Five million quid, strolled. They had an 18-year-old off-front who bullied us, a kid. He looked great. Didn't he? There was loads of them. Matome, four million quid. The kid off the left scored the first goal. Right. And they, what they did. They should have scored before that as well. They should have. But they lost Potter and they went right. What manatee plays a similar attack on way as Graham Potter. So he got the sassu olo fel a ddezebi. And he comes in and he goes, oh, this is exactly like I play anyway. So this just carries on. So now it looks like he's been the manatee of Brighton for five years. But what I'm saying to you guys is there's no evidence of that or evidence that there's no one through line. There's no we play four, three, three with fast wingers and you get goals. That's like, you know Richie, the guard is the show with on absolutely is an Arsenal fan. They've got a target way of playing football process that Artheta kept going on about. And that's the way they play. So even if Artheta got sacked, the vision is instated by that's the way they want to play. And they're bringing a manager that plays that kind of football. And then you're all heading towards one way and that will go back to alleviating the problem that Dave was talking about where you get someone in, manager, different way of playing, new back room staff, new host of shit, get rid of him, different way of playing. And we've talked about this before on the podcast. So it's like, why can't we, why can't we have that? I mean, I remember when we first got Marco Silva, I remember being excited about all I've ever wanted Everton to be post the Moys era, he's going back to being kind of fast, powerful, counter attacking, not soft to shy like we are at the moment. Teams terrified of playing us, not particularly extravagant, but just get the job done. And I thought getting them silver in from Hull would bring a bit of the way Hull used to play under him. He's not managed to get anything like that since. Going back to the point on that is that when Silva was sacked, and this is probably where it started, when Silva was sacked, he wasn't sacked by Marcel Brands. Marcel Brands wanted to keep him, he was sacked again by the hierarchy. And that's what's going to be interesting with the Frank Lampard situation is that if he gets sacked, who sacks him? Does a fellow who doesn't ever come to a game sack him? Does a fellow who got off last night at 2-0 sack him? Does, or does, Kevin Thelwell, the director of football sack him and then be allowed to bring in whoever he wants to be? This is the problem. Do you remember there was that clip that somebody had off a phone in the main stand by the director's box? And basically you had Marcel Brands, and he was getting pilliried by the fans, and he just turned around and he goes, do you think it's just me? Do you think it's me? And that was the biggest one, wasn't it? That was so telling, wasn't it? We've had them today, Alan Stubbs, former Everton defender, having to go to the club and has had to go to German and said he stops giving me tickets now because I've criticised the football club. He won't let me go to games and blah, blah, blah. We've had other ex-players in the past at the greatest goalkeeper we've ever had. The greatest goal he's ever seen, buying tickets to go to game because Everton don't give them. The fellow should have a statue, a bleeding lounge named after him because he'd pay every time he wants to come to Goulderson. But he doesn't, he pays for his match stick and he sits in the park with Evertonians because he did question our football club. And therefore, for me, I don't understand in 2023 how you can operate like that. I think if you're... What I would say, very quickly, and I'll ask you guys for this as well, but what I would say is if any other part of our football club was performing the way our board and owner have, would it still be in place at Everton after seven years? No, not at all. Well, I mean, in most normal situations, no. I mean, knowing Everton then it could have been. But we've had eight managers, so someone took the blame. No, I mean, it's just incompetent. The goal last night with the back pass from Andrissa Gay, the entire sequence of play tells you everything you need to know about this team at the moment. It's just absolute fucking clowning at the highest level. It's just awful and it's embarrassing. We're going back to how we were last season. We're turning into our laughing stock again. I can sense Paddy Power getting ready to do this stupid little skit. It'll get worse because Pickford will go in this window. He may well do. Pickford will go in this window, especially given last night where he's there. I felt sorry. I'm not his biggest fan. I had to go goalie, but I felt sorry for him last night because he just left them exposed. Absolutely, but you can see his expression. He's like, what do you want me to do with this, lads? I'll do my best. I mean, but he's kind of like apologised. He was like that at the end. I think it gets worse. On a side issue, the one thing that baffles me with all of this, which I always saw as being a real strength with Frank, is the fact that with Paul Clements as well, I always felt that we've effectively got two managers. We've got two. Well, I know Frank's not a hugely experienced manager, but with Clements behind who's done big things at big places, I thought, we've got two footballing brains here. So, you know, and that's on top of the other coaching staff. What worries me about him is that you don't hear anything from him ever. It doesn't really worry me. No, but what I mean is sometimes he, for me, Frank, he should be shittin. Frank doesn't want anyone to be seen as manager. And I've got no problem with that at all, by the way. Frank is very much his own manager. He had a message from someone the other day about Paul Clements. No, and I watch, and I... Isn't very complimentary about him. I see all the, you know, I watch all the press conferences afterwards, the ones that, you know, we get all the press conferences that are for the press, not necessarily for the TV. And I watch his demeanour and he comes across it. And he's always very relaxed and he always talks very well. And he is very much, takes all the responsibility. And it just recently started to talk a little bit like Martinis. And he started to get a little bit defensive. And I understand why. But I still... But you mean the kind of thing where you feel like you've not seen the same game as him? Yes. And I said, I interviewed him in November and said, one of the things I have kind of admired about your tenure is, in general, you've talked about the game the same way as we've seen it. I said, and I actually said to him, because you know when you're doing those press conferences, you ain't talking to the reporter, you're talking to us. And I heard them say, Wolves, we were great. I heard them say last night the first half was sad. I don't want to have a go at him as such. And it must be really, really difficult to watch the press conference. He's raw at his knee as well. And he was asked a couple of times about the chance to act aboard. He just doesn't have an answer for it. And I know there's nothing he can say. But then it's really sad. No, I know it's not really sad. And it's really a difficult one. But I always find it... I always find like he's really... It's a weird one to how to get this across. It's almost like he's really, really made up. That he's been given this opportunity. And wouldn't dare question the people who give me. He's grateful because I think he wants this job. And he wants it still. Frank Lampard, no matter whether people like him or don't like him and think he's great or do you think he's terrible, the fella is desperate to succeed. I understand that. I would never have a personal goer and flow that. We've won. The one thing I would say against everything else that I say, and I like him and have to... We've won three games of football and we've played 18 matches. And this isn't him just taking over in the summer. And going, and gone, lads. Let's let this develop. Do you want to hear it? At no point we've been on... It's an element of control. At no point under Lampard, highs and lows. We've never been... Even the palace game we've talked about a couple of times in this episode. We were all over the place in that game. We were staring down deaf store at halftime. But at no point has it been like a controlled, measured performance or sequence of results. It's always been chaotic. One performance following the other and the two don't seem to be from the same team. I still would say that the problems are not just... No, no, no. We're not here because of Lampard. I think this is one thing we've, with all this talk, ultimately we are an absolutely terrible football team. Like what you see on the pitch is dreadful. A team, by the way, is not underperforming. No, I disagree. It is dreadful. No, no, listen. When you've got plays like Dwight MacNeill, Tom Davis, Decore, I don't think Alex O'Walby is actually that good. He just shouldn't be anywhere near that contract. Dominic Arrhenlun, who obviously is coming back from an injury, is replacement O'Walful. We've got two of the slowest centre backs in the league. No, no, but just listen. And we're trying to play a style that actually affects... That's more of the issue. No, I know, but that's what I'm saying. We are fundamentally a rally poster. This is one thing where I think in all the years where you go, we'll get out of this because we've got him, him, him and him. Even if you go back to 1998, you look at the team and you go, it had Don Utchinson, it had Nick Barby in it, it had Duncan Fagus in it. It was an underperforming team. I honestly look at this team and go, it's as bad as anything in the Premier League. I think it's the only thing that gives me any kind of thing. I think we overhyped our plays so much. Mate, I'm not, honestly. I look at it in a go Saturday. If you play that way, I think you'll be all right. And I also look and see Forrest and I see West Ham and I see Southampton and I see what. They're all terrible footballers. But I look at some of West Ham and I go, they massively underperform. They massively underperform. They'll get beat by Leeds tonight and they're gone. He'll be gone and then we'll see. Shall we knock this on the head and support Man City? Possibly. Brexit. I'd rather just have no footy. Life with that. It was good wasn't it? Just have an us for it having shat about it. I want to, Dave has got, let's move from footy, because we've got to finish it because Dave is busy. He's got socks on the radio. I always think socks. Can I just say this podcast is sure. Because of Ned. It is because of... No more needs to be said. Sorry, I hadn't realised. But you're right. I do have socks drying on the radio. My brother-in-law Dr Mike, he'll get it out with a pair of tweezers because that's what you learn in medical school so go over there and I sit in their kitchen and a kid do you know what I see in the corner? It's black, it's shiny, it's got lights on it, it's making a weird noise and it looks really impressive. Do you know what it was, Ped? It was an air fryer. My brother-in-law got an air fryer for Christmas but not just this. Do you know what I learned last night? It doesn't just fry. Apparently it's the best way of cooking sausages. Who knew, right? It doesn't just fry. He was doing rice in there. He's got water in there. He's got a steam setting. Mate, I've told you. I've told you. I've told you. To be fair, me mum's got all that. When I was in New York, I took a picture every night. There was a person and they were on the subway and they bought an air fryer. I just felt like a little burst of energy hit me. Someone told me the other day that they do toast in an air fryer. Do you toast in an air fryer? I will bring it in soon. I will bring it in. You need to come in and demonstrate the versatility. I want this to be a bit like one of those late night shopping channels. Air fryer fan TV. That could be better than football. Yeah, let's do that. I'm happy to do that. Just ditch the football thing. Forget about Everton. Let's just do products. Let's do it. One of the other things before we finish is just off the back of Dave's shock radiator shopping. You quite give me a little bit of insight into you being Bill. You've contemplated coming into the studio today. Commander. Out of necessity. It was got no bills because they're not dry. You can't put the tumble dryer on. We're not made of money. We had ESL podcast rich. They were on Dublin. Homes under a hammer. They were being washed. They were taking a little bit of time to dry. I needed them. I threw them in the microwave for two minutes. Your microwaved bills. I don't really use my microwave for anything else because of my air fryer now. You microwaved your own underpants. I threw them in and it's double bubble because they were dry. That was all warm and toasty down below. This was during the cold snap. It was just double bubble. Do you think that's more efficient than a tumble dryer? Much more efficient. Two minutes. It's the equivalent of the air fryer because you throw things in there in the oven setting and you'll get them cooked in like chips in like five minutes rather than 15. It's the same with the boxy shorter instead of going on a tumble dryer for maybe half an hour or whatever magic it works. I don't understand tumble dryer. You throw them in the microwave. You get the ding. You throw them on. The nice and toasty. Double bubble. Everyone's a winner. Except for those big companies who are trying to take their money off us. If you're going to microwave your bills to dry them, just be careful that they're not too hot. You wouldn't want to get. Now you get a warm ding then, wouldn't you? You wouldn't get a warm ding David. Don't put your tea in straight after that. No, no. Let it play out. That story over Christmas, don't have anyone seen this very quickly. It was that story of some family realising that the sick bowl was also the bowl that the family used to make cakes and bread and stuff. And it was like this realisation and it went a little bit viral this story. As people woke up to their childhood of going, oh yeah, our sick bowl doubled up us. People weren't sick because they were thrown up in it just a quick wash. You were getting the extra antibodies you were surviving. Everything sterile now. So what you're saying is my bowl because you'll never get sick? Hey, listen, can I just leave you with something which might be a merchandising idea? Because obviously I know that toffee TV is branched into, you know, t-shirt, merchandise, whatever. We sported some of it on there. It's tremendous quality and tremendous value as well. I'm happy to say. If you brought out some toffee TV microwavable underpants, right? You could call them like ding dong bills, right? Because they go in there, you get the ding, stick them on there, warm ding dong. You know, happy days. That very seasonal day, but I like that. That is a way to finish the part. That's a way to finish it. Ding dong bills, happy bollocks, everyone is your winner. Are we going happy bollocks? That's a better name. Happy bollocks. There you go. We're throwing them all out here. Incredible, listen, gentlemen. Absolutely superb as normal. Let's hope. Well, listen, next week we can talk about Everton's Winner Old Trafford. Now the world is a much better. Three weekend now. But if we go out, the three weekend. And if we go out, we've got another three weekend at the end of the month. Two free Saturdays and Sundays in January. Incredible. Boys, lovely to speak to you. Take care. Have a good week being such. 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