 Great, so my name is Kelly Ryan and I'm the development vice president on IBM in our AI applications business units and blockchain is part of our business unit and I'm absolutely thrilled to be hosting this and I have I have some incredibly impressive people here And I just want to do a quick introduction and then from there. We'll get right into this panel So first I want to welcome Rakesh Mohan To this panel and for those of you who do not know Rakesh He is not only the hyper ledger governing board member But he also works with me and he is the director of IBM blockchain development within IBM On top of this we have Chris Ferris Chris besides being known for the dog sparking in the background Chris is an IBM fellow. He's the CTO for IBM open technologies And he was a former member of the hyper ledger governing board We also have our know lores and our know You're the hyper ledger TSC chair and you're also a senior technical staff member within IBM within open technologies and then finally we have Ellie on and Ellie is a distinguished engineer from our research team and so And and by the way Ellie's based in Zurich. So thank you Ellie for being able to make this call and and and this is an incredibly impressive panel and What we want to talk to you about and really have a panel session on is the IBM announcements that were recently made earlier today Pretty exciting announcements. In fact one has to do with our Hyper ledger offering our operations console offering that we're going to come out with later on this year And also that there's been a number of different Code contributions that have been made by IBM IBM research That we really want to talk about in this panel So with this first by the way welcome to the IBM team But also, you know, let's talk about these offerings and and while we're doing that I want to encourage everybody that's here on the chat and Questions we're pretty flexible on how we do this. We want this to be as open as possible So with this I'll start And I'll go to Chris Chris, you know, I will say that you're the grandfather of hyper ledger And you know, you must be excited in what you've seen today in terms of where we are and not only where we are But you know where we're going So give us your perspectives on these two announcements so Yeah, I mean I I helped to Work with the links foundation to actually get hyper ledger up and running and I chaired the steering committee for the first three years and And and shepherded on the the initial contribution that IBM made of our open blockchain platform which became hyper ledger fabric when we collaborated with digital assets to sort of create a shared offering that we could start with um, and you know to put sort of into context the the the new Contributions that have just been made I think it's almost on an equal footing with the original hyper ledger fabric contribution, you know over the years we've Actually almost completely rewritten hyper ledger fabric zero dot six that we we started with And so so now we actually have you know the the BFT offering in the labs We have the token capabilities now contributed to the labs. We have and most recently with the the UI I think you know, this is this is almost as important as the initial contribution if not more I think you know the the the console is going to be really important because I think the most challenging part of Working with hyper ledger fabric is that it it doesn't come with sort of a user. It has a user manual, obviously but it doesn't really come with You know something that makes it easy to use and consume from a from an end user perspective And now it does and I think that's really wonderful Great. Thank you Chris, you know, it is exciting when you think of the user perspective If we really want this all to be successful with regards to hyper ledger fabric We have to make it easy to consume. We have to take it to the next level Arno, what's what's your perspective here? Yeah, so, you know, I've been following the Botspitting and development of fabric for several years from the beginning of hyper ledger and You know, when I look at all the changes that have been happening over the years I kind of like to think of them as different categories. I call them axes of development of fabric And so there are things like, you know, we've been increasing improving privacy and confidentiality performance Accessibility ease of use That kind of stuff, right? And there are there are quite a few of those and what I'm excited about is I think, you know a lot of those contributions and they're actually quite a few labs that we have actually Contributed to hyper ledger over the last several months that fall into that category And they're actually moving the needle on several of those axes quite significantly, which I think is very exciting Now I noticed Chris you had a question here Can you distinguish what you mean between a contribution and an offering? And so what we're referring to Is there were two announcements that IBM made earlier today with Kareem Youssef in his keynote one was an offering where we are offering a through the Red Hat marketplace the support for our Open-source contribution, which will be which is the hyper ledger Console I think Rakesh correct me if I'm wrong, but is it called the operational console? Yeah, the hyper ledger fabric operation is fun, right? Okay, so that's going to be the offering Chris And we are putting that in hyper ledger as an open-source contribution and then the second piece was a number of contributions that were done By the research team and others and that was related to the interoperability tokens Arnaud did I miss any in that list? Yeah, so I mean there are quite a few as I was saying we had things like mere BFT There was you know contributed a bit earlier Which is basically a library for BFT Byzantine fault-tolerance Consensus which we plan eventually to integrate with the fabric and which is very nice Because it's actually not limited to fabric people should be able to use mere BFT even with other technologies as well Okay, great. Thank you. I hope that answered your question. Well, great. Thank you, Chris Another question, but it was in the chat and it's you know, what are the features of the console? I don't know if you want to Yeah, so let me talk about that a bit I was planning to do that a little later, but let me just dive into it Right. So the console takes much of the code from our IBM blockchain product That is available right now. So it'll be sort of product level code and and it really takes away that the Reduces the problems of running operating deploying large fabric networks and and and doing that production so it Provides a web-based UI which is very intuitive to handle and have full control on things like Identities on channels or smart contract on the order so for example, you can use the console and then just through the Intuitive very intuitive user interface be able to look at channel characteristics join peers to channel with the appropriate Permissions either the operators or writers or what have you you can manage identities You can that member organization report export them. You can manage your certificate Authority users and roll and Revoke that you can even manage on the orders even configure who's on the consortia channel so it Provides a lot of deep capabilities into sort of handling all aspects of our large-scale fabric deployment, but good for my Web UI and you can have your components of the network deployed across multiple different cloud environments And and do this through the center play But but Chris if I may I also want to sort of put this into the picture right as we look at What we want to provide for this frictionless Experience in terms of just using fabric right so people can focus on the value and applications on top It's so that the console provides this capability of managing your Fabric network as I explained and then people can find more details about it in our lab Along with that as Kelly mentioned and very mentioned we'll be making this available through our redhead market So we'll have the fabric Long-term support LTS release certified and security scan images and any patches to that also available and Operator that automates both the one and day to operation and the fine fabric on on containers like Openship right so it covers that whole picture from the day-to-day operations and the IP Sort of deployment and management Things plus a support offering so even people running open source fabric and production stacks that they require They can get 24 seven support right with experts to make sure that nothing goes wrong in the production So hopefully I know I covered a little bit more with the console, but just wanted to get Art first Great. Thank you very much Rakesh. Now. I do want to do just a little bit of a twist and go over to Ellie and research Ellie from your perspective, you know from a research point of view You know you really look at what are the emerging business needs in the blockchain space because it really then drives You know the work that the research team spends their time on To really come up with new innovations in this particular area So from from these announcements that we've made and and give us your perspective on what what drove us to those particular announcements with regards to the business needs and Anything with regards to what you think is the next thing we should be working on Sure, so my lot of the value proposition of blockchain as a new generation business network comes from It's decentralization plans distribution of trust in transaction validation and over transparency and more robust security that comes along But it is at least the same kind of features that raise for certain use cases interesting privacy challenges Challenges because we want to preserve enterprise data confidentiality and enterprise relationship confidentiality while at the same time Guaranteeing compliance with regulation Another aspect is that Regulation is not really the same across the same country or is not is not impacting the same way all enterprises even in the same country so What are the the work that we have contributed to the open source community? like near BFT aims to make to strengthen all the decentralization aspects of blockchain system by giving them a Scalability boost beyond the state of the art scalability and performance our assets our The work around the token SDK Is a hyper ledger fabric token SDK and aims to give Privacy compliance With the regulation So offers audit support together with privacy preserving asset exchange our interoperability work aims to facilitate exchanges across different networks because as I mentioned different types of regulation apply to different country different kind of preferences different systems different enterprises with half with respect to the technology they develop and last But not least our fabric private chain codes and the fabric Contributions the fabric by the chain code and the fabric smart client aim to provide a little bit more flexibility When it comes to our privacy options Smart client gives us the ability to compose transactions in different way in accordance to exquisite probably privacy rules and Governing the use case for the private private code which allow us to build things in the traffic execution environment Great. Thank you very much when you step back and you think about it, you know the pace of innovation that we're trying to provide here is is really to really It's really drive more business use cases More areas where this technology can play a big role now Rakesh There's a question that Jennifer has here and it says she says the Walmart Your project is a big inspiration to what I need to develop So she really wants to know a little bit more about that particular project. Can you elaborate on that one? I'm trying to read the full question. Yeah Right, so it is actually a product offering from idea Walmart is Comprehensive using that along with the supplies Like Care for big food manufacturers like Nestle says it's much beyond This Walmart all the Walmart was an anchor in the big thing and and it's it's really using Blockchain in one of the specific areas about provenance and and provenance here is Powering food safety and also transparency to end consumers. So not only the platform provides information about as Frankie and I was mentioning yesterday right about food recalls and safety But also the consumers sort of that visibility is this organic is this grown with my local farmer and and We also not made it into a platform Which you call transparent supply that others are using not to build their own ecosystem. So a good example is farmer connect Which is doing this in the coffee ecosystem and and one of the great users there I see is really connecting consumers not only with the visibility into the coffee supply chain But actually connecting them to the farmers who usually make the smallest amount of money in the whole coffee transaction But yet our burden with having sustainable practices and the like labor practice is not bring the kids to the field type of things So it's really connecting them by giving a small amount of Acquisition that right so it provides that basis of transparency across the supply chain that can be used for safety for for providing consumers better visibility into the Practices and how the food is sourced or other things are sourced and and we are seeing even further as as people are looking into Sustainability and carbon how along with the flow of course we can track these other things also So As I said the people can join the network or we also sell it as a platform and that's an easy way of just using Great. Thank you. Jennifer, you know, I hope that gave you a little bit more clarity in in your question So what I want to do now is is I want to go to each of you and I want you to really just give one one Item that you believe is them what what are what the audience should be most Excited about and I would imagine each of you have your own point of view Which is why I want to kind of do it a round table here on it But but I just want you to give one item of what you think the audience should be most Excited about for all of the work that we've done so far in In our announcements and what we intend to do because I know the offering doesn't come out until later this year And what we intend to do for the the remainder of the year. So I'm going to start with Arno Let's start with yourself But so I think the console is pretty exciting because I think you know people are still find it quite challenging to You know instantiate the network and then operate the network manage the network I mean, we've actually done quite a bit of effort We have a whole new sections that was recently developed and added to the documentation of fabric on How to actually deploy a networking production? But it still remains quite a bit of challenge and so I think the console with provide You know a user interface that should make that much easier But I will I will cheat the right away and say that other than that I think the fabric smart client is very interesting I'll tell you why because it actually changes the level of Concern it actually moves the API higher up and people have been lamenting for years about the disappearance of another project called Composer because Composer at this ability to provide people the business developer with the Model that was very close to their concern and And we we actually disbanded the I mean we discontinued this project I and I mean we hyperleder right there was a consensus and so this project has been retired or cived and People are still missing this kind of capability and I think the fabric smart client will actually bring some of this Functionally back and people will love it So here you go. Great. Thank you now. You can imagine if you ever took him to the candy store He's not gonna walk away with one candy, but that was great to get your insights on both of those Ellie, I'll go over to you Yeah, it's very hard to choose but Position as I don't know but what I'll say is maybe choose the one that is closer to the in an existing application so token SDK and Is it's something really that can be used for? digitizing assets different types of them and the financial asset is clearly a focus because the First implementation of this supports fungible tokens that can easily be extended to the non fungible token case but Also, I would say that this this asset alone Will not provide as much value as in combination with the rest and the token SDKs built on top of fabric smart client That allows essentially provides more flexibility in the interactions between different clients of the blockchain system can be chain or all chain interactions And that's exactly the capability that we are using in the token SDK side as well And near BFT fabric private chain got also Complets their privacy story complements the privacy story there using a completely different model Whereas near BFT gives you this decentralization flavor that is very much required in blockchain systems without taxing performance So I cannot choose any of them because Another one we can't bring to the candy store But no, I get it. I mean Ellie your point is by having all of these different contributions. There's a lot more flexibility Which again to me then brings more use cases into this this particular area and then our know your your point on the I Will call it the frictionless experience in terms of managing an environment Rakesh, I'm going to go over to you next Chris your last, you know being the grandfather of hyper ledger I really want to save you for the end there, but Rakesh Yeah, so my this is good that I'm already going after people who couldn't keep to one, right? Because it's Started with this is a embarrassment of which is we this is a lot of contributions this time Obviously from from a person who can run things in production and helps clients the console is Definitely a big major contribution if it takes a man years, I mean hundreds of many years of work actually Are encapsulated in it? So so that is high But I would also choose among other things for example interoperability thing like we were where we lost our working with other groups and and really Sort of grow the community about how these different DLT technologies and they were different that was kind of topic, right? So I think that's why it's difficult to choose this. There's such a rich set of really key contributions that we are Okay, well, thank you Rakesh over to you Chris Okay, well, at least all my thunder I was gonna say so it actually is you know, it's interesting so you know Have having been you know, sir and Ellie of course, she's been involved since the very beginning as well, but Oh, I would always hear about oh my god, you know fabric doesn't support tokens Oh my god fabric doesn't have true, you know fully Byzantine fall tolerant Consensus oh my god Well now it does Really you can't you know, you you really couldn't put tokens in without the full BFT Consensus because if you really wanted to use it for you know, some You know either to manage, you know true tokens As some of the customers we've worked with have tried to do you need the full bit Byzantine fall tolerant aspect of things But a lot of the use cases that we have done You know today as we've demonstrated whether it's food trust whether it's a trade lens whether it's we trade They didn't need it because they aren't dealing with you know You know, they're not dealing with financial tokens that you're exchanging and so forth and you're worried that somebody's going to steal all your tokens, it's more about data sharing and and and you know sort of and tracking and tracing and But now there's really no excuse you can pretty much with the assets that we've contributed now In open source you can pretty much compose any sort of use case You can think of from a blockchain perspective using hyper ledger fabric and the various technologies and I'm really looking forward to You know increase collaboration, you know to for instance to incorporate the mere BFT capabilities into the operations console So that we can actually deploy and manage a fully BFT Network as well as one using the traditional Consensus model that we have so I think it's really pretty exciting because they they sort of all Feed off each other or build off each other and create a set of capabilities that pretty much gives us unlimited potential from a use case perspective Now Bob Dubois has a question is His question is isn't token SDK overlapping or interfering with Bezu, I hope I pronounced that right Anyone have a point of view here I am I am not sure what the interference refers to does it mean interoperable Or because in terms of functionality token SDK offers a layer for and issuing transferring deeming and atomically exchanging Tokens tokens on top of fabric It can be extended to interact with other systems That also support tokens, but it's not intermediate It's not interfering like offering the same type of functionality on the zoo because as Bezu because it is referring to fabric Great. Thank you. I hope Bob that we answered your question Let us know on on the chat or sorry on the Q&A I mean in hyperlegia, we have many different frameworks And so there are some overlaps in functionality between the different frameworks that are being provided and Yes, of course, basically an API client does support tokens, but you know Having it in fabric is by no means a problem It's it's a different framework different type of application you're going to build on it You will have the same kind of functionality But we also have additional features that we hope will be a differentiator such as the privacy features that Amy was talking about earlier And I would also note down at way back when but I believe your fabric has had an EVM capability for smart contracts since well Since 1.2, I think so, I mean it's been a long time That we actually finished that work didn't get a whole lot of use but basically if you want to run a therium tokens You can do that actually using the EVM that we have in the smart contract Great. Thank you. Now. I know we're I don't know why I'm doing an echo Just let me Okay, is the echo there No, we can't hear it. Great. Thank you So I know we're we're at the end of this particular panel before everybody leaves You know our intent here is is really we really wanted you to all to see and really hear from us in terms of Wanting to have this strong vibrant blockchain community and and as you can see from IBM research and from development We are we are stepping on the gas in terms of really pushing for more Contributions into hyper ledger and I would tell everybody, you know, everybody on this call I would all to do the same. We really believe that doing this open source hyper ledger and hyper ledger fabric community We're really going to then drive those businesses in those use cases and that innovation We want to see in this space. So again, thank you all Here for participating and thank you all for listening I will only do one final plug and that is on June the 30th There's going to be a webinar that will take you into the details of our code Contributions and the offering that was announced earlier this morning, and I encourage you all To attend that to continue with all the questions that you may have So, thank you. Thanks Kelly. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks everybody. Thank you