 So we start reading, and I'll start by doing a roll call. And we'll start with the regular comments here. Martial act, here. In, right here. Stand in front of the doors, come in, OK? And we're here. I'm here. All the way here, here. Philip, check them out. Here. And then Al and Boone. Here. Like we mentioned earlier. Yes. Next, I'm going to show you the agenda. And there is one little mistake there. Number three says for A to June, 263, small, and all floors divide into more than eight floors. So I think the motion to approve the minutes would be in the date. Second? Second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion passes to the end of the floor. The third thing is to approve the previous five minutes for June, 26. I got a correction on that as well. It says, well, I didn't attend last month's meeting. But it says, when I got to German, I approved. Our second is the German. I'm confused. I think I'm trying to hear what you're saying. I know what you're saying. You know what I'm saying. No, no. It's not here at the last meeting. It's not here at the last meeting. It's not here at the last meeting. But I disapproved it, though. Well, I'm going to end this, though. Well, that's pretty tough. She's been doing it here. I died with it. She's been doing it every month for the past few years. That's the first one I got you, so good job. You got to do what I said. Can I have a motion to approve the minutes as corrected? The motion to approve the minutes as corrected. Second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion passes to the end of the floor. I don't think we have any public people. Any public people? No. Okay, they were going to item five. Cute kitchens from the pros. Cute. My name's Hank Keith. All right. We had an outstanding July. The single best revenue generated month ever. I think it couldn't be. Never made that much money in one month. The rounds are a little skewed because I forgot to bring in the league rounds. I don't know if that'll be more obvious in less than July. Those rounds come in at zero because revenue comes in in, you know, May or June. So the revenue running early in the round will run in months and months. Sometimes the months get fighting for you to bring no grounding. So anyway, great month, two-thirty-six. We're at 131 for the year. And it's a little bit down in the round, which I'm fine with. And we have another great month. We have over $200,000 as of yesterday for this month as well. So four straight months over $200,000. Just remarkable. It really is. I'm one of the days we used to be happy to get to like one-thirty. And those days weren't that long ago. So to be able to do this is really awesome. It's exciting. Great month. Golf courses in Green Bay. Great job. And looking forward to September. And then October. All right. So the same with what Keith said there. Kind of opposite, it's been... July was fantastic. Sunset was projected for $74,697 for revenue. And we came in at one of the six, five, sixty-two. And then the rounds projected at 5,009 and 5,166. And courses in the fantastic shape. Ryan and Danny have done a fantastic Danielle third and not Danielle. Not me. Danny's soul. But those guys have been doing a fantastic job. Thank you. Same. Same here. July was a record month for Duke Creek as well. May was the first month we ever went over 300. So this was three months in a row. 3318.5. So far in August we're at 282,000. Which is exactly where we were last year for the month of August. I think we're at 300 again. It's been amazing. It's been amazing summer. Rounds are slightly up. Course has been in great shape. Danny, I think everybody's been a hero this year with all the rain and everything. The guys here in the law month, they just do an amazing job. I hear from the outside folks that come in and look for a second or all the time when they've reached out. They're delivering a great product. And the golfers are currently good. Anything else? Okay, I have six. Old business. There is no other business. I have seven. I work. I have seven. We have a presentation here for you guys. One of the projects we actually, the fun projects we got done. We had this money come back from all the fun projects with the maintenance building and two pieces here. This is just a small one that we had in there that got approved back in 18. I think we had 282,000 and then the satellites came up to about 253, so that gives me a little bit more money to spend. I can't wait. Oh. So, yeah, this is one of the fun projects. And it's going to be the new operating system out of U-Creak. Back off of 1995 was when the irrigation system went in. So this looks satellite boxes. They looked quite a little nicer back then but this is what they look like now. We took them out in, I think it was May. And this is what the 2023 satellite boxes look like. So not only does it help the aesthetics out there, I mean, obviously they're tucked off into the outbound. I think that looks a lot better. So this is the inside of the new controllers here. The old controllers had 32 stations. So they basically just have one of these front side. That's 32 stations right there. So U-Creak, some of the fairways are so spread out there that we have to have a lot of stations doubled up. So there'll be two wires going into there. But these satellites, they have 64 stations, 32 on the front, 32 on the back. So therefore we have 64 stations total per clock which lets us have individual control which gives better control out of the field. It doesn't have as many wet spots, dry spots. It helps give us balance everything out a little bit. So this is the front side here. You can see all that stuff up there. There's fuses up there. There's fuses down here. Those fuses help with lightning strikes. So if there was some lightning that came in the area, those fuses would blow down there at the bottom. Instead of frying the whole satellite so you're replacing a $5 fuse compared to a $40,000 controller and stuff like that. So then this is the back side. They have the same thing satellites here. This is I mean, this stuff's over my head too. I'm going to give you a little bit about it. But that's why we have our contracts with 401SN. They help us come out of something like that. It goes wrong too. So that's the irrigation satellites that you guys see out there on the course. And then this is what's on the inside. So if that top clips up, then this is what you'll see here. So this is the old base plate from the 1995 satellites. You could do about two or three things on this satellite. You can see if you see a mouth by manual and a syringe here. That's all you can do. You can go inside on the bottom there. You can flip stations on. But this satellite here or this base plate here is called you can do basically everything you can do at the central computer. So this is basically a computer right here. You'll see you got the home button there. So you'll hit that. That'll take you to the home screen. It'll show you date, time when it starts to run. It'll show you what's coming on there and how long it runs and every satellite you can work your way through the whole thing. The screen that's on there right now is multi-manual. So you see they have stations one through five and run for 12 minutes. And stations six through 12 and run for six minutes. So then you scroll down and where it says it's how many you want to run simultaneously. You usually run one and then they'll work their way through their crop progression for the amount of time that you have on there. So you can kind of set them up. If you have time, a lot of times we have to run four or five at a time because we're trying to beat belters and no belters coming up behind us so we don't want anybody to get wet and kind of ruin their day. So that's nice features. Save us here except you can run more stations at a time. My favorite one probably is the diagnostic key. You can do you can check you can run satellite or you can start stations. They have a key where you can go and turn that and you'll go one, two, three all the way through. It's a good way to be able to get out into the field and check to make sure everything's working. And you can go through a lot faster. This one you have to go down there and toggle it on the bottom and go all the way through this way so you can keep your head up and still work through in order where belters are and all that stuff. So, but you can check amperage to the archivist which means sorry solenoid should be running about 0.2 amps and if it's up or above that it means your solenoid could either blow or not have the power turned on. So either one of that is not going to work. So that's there's a unlimited number of things that this faceplate can do. You know, we usually use maybe three or four of the main things that you can do in there. There's a communication check. You can check from the field and make sure all of your shout-outs are talking and pretty well they're working. So, it's crazy what they can do there. It's called smart shout-out for a reason and that's what it is. It's basically a computer out in the field. So, this is what's up in our office. That's a map of the whole course and it's sorry it's hard to see but there's little, there's eight or three foot head that we have in the course. It's on this map. There's a little dot on there so you can scroll around the map. You can find each head and you can turn it on from here. You can adjust this percentages up and down. Like if there's a wet area out there you can just adjust the percentages down or up depending on whether it's dry. This is kind of a hub of what you, different things you can do from the central computer. I'll just go through a few of those. So, this is the control center. This has every single head out there in the course. There's about eighteen hundred heads out there in forty different satellites. So, this is I think this is number three. It'll start with all the T's right there through the ropes but when we purchased this from Toro, I understand they went in and put all this stuff in there for us. There's definitely some tweaks that we've had to do out there that didn't get everything exactly right but they got everything hooked up and the majority of it in there. So, we've had to go through and like I said with that diagnostic tool, go through and right down if it's actually a T, if it's actually a rub, you know. So, because everything runs at different percentages. So, you want to have everything piled in there exactly to where it is on your course. But then you'll see there's the whole the number of sprinklers. Sometimes if we do have a couple of leveled up there's a way we had to do it in the past. We had what they called the AC chain. Some heads together so we could get some in some areas where it was getting dry. And then they have the type of sprinklers. We have 750, 780s continuity type of sprinklers. Those are all different heads that Toros came through in the years and then they not look bad. And then it's over here where you can see these are like along back over here. So, they're running 180 degrees compared to 360 which means about fairways are everything you want to run through 60. So, yeah, there's 40 different things with these and you got to go through and make sure everything's dialed in. So, watering plan is what we set up every night. You'll see it starts with greens, teas, fairways, ruffs over there. So, how we water is by ET. And it's not like the exact ET that you're losing in a day. If we were to try to replace that with water, this would be when you're running until 10 o'clock in the morning starting at 8 o'clock in the night. So, we try to get close. You know, and this does a good job. If we were to water that much, everything would be soaking wet out there every time. Well, there's times where we get to wait for months and we have some wet spots on the floor. So, we try to dial it back but you'll see where it says, this is kind of blurry too, but it says just percent of just. So, that's where we put in. We usually try to water between 0.05 and 0.2, something like that. Like, that hot stretch in late July, there's a lot of 1.5, 2.0 minutes where we put in some that much water out there. And, but, you know, try to keep it on the dry side. Brown's okay. We just don't want it to start losing dirt out there. Brown's more playable when soft leaves are soaking wet dirt. And then they have to start time. We start at sunset plus 11 minutes. So, that just gives a little, offered a little chance to get off there. And they have a feature which is really nice here. You can start like 16, 17 and 18 a little bit later. Like, we have 16 starting 10 minutes, or 15 minutes past sunset. 17 starting 20 and 18 starting 30 just in case those last couple of people are taking a little longer, you know, we could throw a little scraggling around out there. So, that's the watering plan. And then this shows me what's watering for the night. So, you can see right here it's starting at 8 o'clock and this one's running until about 2.30 in the morning. And that's at probably about 1.0 to 1.5 ET for all the different programs you have there. And you can see there we're at about 500,000 gallons for the night. So, that'll show me if I miss something, if I have something that's off in as far as time and it's starting up here. If it's starting up here, then I can go back and adjust it before the night comes. We'll start with plastic altars. And this is my favorite one, the salesman that sold us this system says that this is like your morning cup of coffee. You go in there and check everything. This will show you what ran or didn't run. You know, it'll show you everything that happened in the night before without going out to the field and being able to check or, you know, miss it. You don't see anything running for a few days. You'll see it on here before you start getting brown or too wet or something like that. It'll give you if it's running above expected time or below expected time. It's just a really handy feature of this new system. Our old stuff was not even close to this. You were having the out there. There was kind of the old system that stuff was below. That's why we had the problem through green on Syria. We didn't know that it wasn't running and then it was there. So this would have showed us right away that that wasn't running and we could have been out there a little quicker. So that's just a quick overview of what that bond project did for us and it's been night and day difference for us out there. I think, of course, it's been a lot better for us. I mean, obviously the Marines helped us this evening. We haven't had the water as much, but this has definitely helped, too. So any questions about the new operating system? Two questions. First, does it measure water consumption? No, we don't have any sensors or anything out there you can, but then we've got straight here with Raymond and right before we get in a drought condition. I know you can measure by time but I was wondering if you could do it. That's like an irrigation audit type thing where you know you go put catch cans out there and kind of see but we don't have anything like that out in the field on a daily basis. But how much water are you using? That's your question, right? How much water are you using? Oh, I thought you meant how much was actually going into the ground. No, just how much you're supposed to be. Oh, yeah. That's what I said, that $500,000 was kind of a, that's a really hot night. $500,000 over the full course. Yeah, sorry. What's the warranty on the system? They're pretty good. The operating system is I would imagine like a couple of years but they'll come out, we actually have a contract with Toro, which we call NSN and they'll replace everything anytime, like if we were to get a lightning strike or something like that they would have a new controller or we have a field interface NSD college that sends a signal out to the field out to the satellites and they would have that sent to us. So basically we're covering no matter what, but we pay for it in the long run. So we're good. Yeah, we're good. So does Toro provide you like mobile access so you can access your iPad or something? Right, I can do everything from my phone. Yeah, a lot of times it's easier with a phone or iPad than with phone phones. So if you do see me out there I'm not texting. Turn it on heads or you know, scrolling the internet or something. Yeah, they do and they're great. They have two different apps. They have one that's an actual app. You can do basic stuff on it and then you can get into the cloud. Everything's on the cloud for them so it's called the things cloud that you can get into and it's a, it's kind of I wouldn't say a dumb down version of it, but it's just a little less, but you can still do anything that you need to do. It doesn't have all the different styles. Just one more question. I think you said, is this just for you? This one is for you. Sunset has the same operating system and as soon as Ryan gets his irrigation system going, he'll have it also. So in it, ours I had to go put in all those sprinkler heads on that map because ours isn't GPS so when he gets his everything's going to be to the you know, inch of the ground and all that. Ours is guesstimated and that's why I'm going through, back through all the stations too because some of the wires got put into different areas and so it's a whole process like it's going to take us this year to get it completely toot toot toot. Right, yeah. But they did most of the hard parts, you know, the technical stuff and they did all the satellites they rewired everything, bolted them down, hooked up all power, the communication, all that stuff. They did all that stuff. Yeah, it was one of those things where you were waiting we did it in maybe like October and they said, oh they'll be here in December and we got pushback every month they got pushback Toro's having a tough time with the supply chain with your agent and equipment right now too but they're the top of the line so you wait for it. I haven't played since a middle of last week but then there were a few wet spots but generally speaking the ferries in particular were just sensation. Yeah, I appreciate that. They've been good this year and I don't know if it's the new system or if it's the rain that's helping us out in the water I'm going to the system. Not going to but like I said it is still work in progress so there are a few areas I know what you're talking about and trying to find that exact balance is the key. We had it kind of dialed in with the old system but this is 100% different. The one thing that helped Dan out a lot too is his old system was controlled by every three seconds so a signal was sent out so if someone was set to stop running at say 9.05pm on the dot or 9.05 in two seconds his old system would round up every three seconds for control because the new one is to the second. Yeah, it's probably actually more like a bunch of them in almost before but yeah, that's their old selling point now too it's everything dialed in in a second and it fills in all the gaps like that water window pyramid thing I showed you and all those if something shuts off it will fill that in and keep it nice and tight so it was well worth it Any other questions about the new system? Any questions about your Asian channel? No? Well thank you very much One of the bond projects we got done, you got one Jeff? The next item is the project that would be me so we are after five years finally getting to be very close and say we're there so we are currently in contract negotiations with a company to do the maintenance facility at Upreet from the time that we met in June until tonight's meeting in actually August 8th we were $2.2 million short in trying to make this happen so staff worked with the finance department and golf actually took out a loan $1.7 million from the city it was fun to get us closer and then we're going to use $1.5 million more I say more because we already used $1.5 million this year to pay to get us what we thought would pay for it we're still 2.2 million short we're borrowing $1.7 million and we're paying $1.5 million away from our fund balance to be able to get this done and the fear is if we wait another year to make this happen we're afraid we're going to be $1 million or $2 short again so the payment for the $1.7 million is for 10 years at around $200,000 and the timing of that worked out well and part of the reason why it could be considered is that the debt for youth creed is being paid off this year we had one final payment of $80,000 and we were going to own the golf course but again because the decision was made and it was money 25 years ago it was a national maintenance facility that we cannot continue to operate in our existing facility so it's our hope that we will actually on Thursday of this week have our first construction meeting and construction could actually start by October 2nd so things are really starting to move along this is the view of the Highway 66 this is the maintenance facility two bays and then the storage facility and I think you've all seen these but I'll just show them again since we're talking about at least something positive for a change is you kind of a view of the site plan Highway 66 is up here our parking for maintenance building there's about 4,700 square feet and then cold storage for all of our equipment most of that equipment right now sits out in the elements all year long so that's going to be some really good options for our wear and tear anybody remembers the silo that's been designated as a historic preservation thing so that will be staying as soon as the work is completed with the maintenance facility we'll be spending about $50,000 to $70,000 on the silo because it has some foundation damage that we'll need to take care of we have a company ready to go but didn't want to do that until the other construction was completed Rick did you have a question I do, what's the purpose of the silo? purpose of the silo and why are we spending all the money on it? because it is designated as a historic landmark and we are required to not do anything but fix that so it's not going anywhere I thought you said at one time that a portion of the building is going to just be a roof that was one of the things we were considering as we borrowed the money we're going to build out what we need and that should last for the next 15 years as he supervises and then the final drawing I'll show you is just kind of a view of what the buildings will look like so one of the requirements by the city is that you cannot build a building that's 150 feet long without it having some type of roof change roof line change every 30 feet is how that happens so we've done some things that go one way or another that instead of having to pay a great deal of money to drop down and go up because when it's over the maintenance area you can't drop down because then we can't use the lift to raise their equipment so we were able to do some color differential and some just adjustment on the peaks to be able to address that the other thing is you can't just build a metal building so as you look at this to tie to this kind of the silo or the farm kind of we've tried to use some garage doors barn doors some different colors along the building to try to make it look better to the surrounding neighbors than just a metal building so that was all required as a part of the planning process which took us about a year to get through with different types of our time to go back after they gave us feedback so anyway October 2nd we're headed in the right direction to be able to complete that project at what projected cost at this point right at 5.4 million right 4 4.4 million 4 4.4 million is what that has which includes this is a large number but we need to have $800,000 in contingency to address those things that come up throughout the project so if they dig out in the ground and all of a sudden we have some type of groundwater issue we have to have that money set aside hopefully we won't have to spend all of that but that is a part of it on the irrigation it's just under $5.4 million and to be able to make that project happen we had to take out some of the things we wanted to have done and I would say here at Twin Peaks we'll be getting about 90% of what we wanted to have done we really wanted to do more surrounding edges so that those of you that golf here know how dry it's towards the edge on 10 and out on 2 and we'd like to carry we wanted to try to carry that out to the edges but we had to make some cutbacks to be able to do that but other than that this project will be almost completely done some set we've had to back off even more we can't afford to do any of the replacement of the water lines in the ground what we're going to do is in 15 we replaced all the sprinkler heads on the south side of Long Peaks they're going to go in and replace all of the heads and rewire so that we can do some of the controlling that Dan described this evening and then we'll also do work on our pump stations to be able to replace pumps and motors so that will all be new and then we'll need to start saving money to start replacing the lines at some point so that's kind of where we're at with the two projects again the election was passed in November of 2018 and it's taken us a lot more money and a lot of time to be able to start moving some dirt and building things if things all go to plan with our contract work could start as early as late October or November here at Twin Peaks and some work over at Sunset the primary work that will happen during the winter is a replacement of the two pump stations that we have here and again the work will do at Sunset so kind of a quick update on those projects it's a really good feeling to at least be able to start getting some some work done because it's been a long time any questions or thoughts? great job Paul, you guys I mean I know it hasn't been easy and I know it's been frustrating and what a process what a great job you guys are grinding through and then you get the back and then we've got a couple of changes and you guys have a great job it's nice to be being able to see the race now let's talk about thank yous in about a year great job moving through this show anything else about your presentations okay let's move on to number eight which is items for the staff how do you have some so it's nice that all the board is here tonight to be able to have this conversation I want to check in with everybody to make sure you as board members are feeling like you have a purpose and that you're being able to provide input some of our meetings we're virtually done and we've been here for 35 minutes I just want to hear from you are you okay with that or what things would you like to see on the agenda that would give you the opportunity for more feedback or again to make the board feel like it has more purpose I'm going to raise my hands I want to know what council thinks we can give advisory thoughts and suggestions and share our feelings about what's going on in the golf course world recreation in general I guess but what is council wise are we just rubber stamping stuff doesn't need you guys to tell us all the great things you're doing what kind of purpose is there there's some things where you're running into you know roadblocks where input from some of us might help I mean there's people with extremely varied backgrounds on this board and maybe there are some things that we can attribute I mean if we're talking about the the youth creek youth creek obviously that's going nowhere for the foreseeable future is there anything that we can offer in the way of suggestions to maybe make some modifications do some things a little differently that would we feel might accomplish most of the purpose we had a name list to get to a little bit sooner because it might be a little less expensive or a little more efficient so we're looking at we're starting to talk about fees for next year as far as our membership and passes is that something you all would like to talk about yes I think that would be a great conversation because it also gives us more of an opportunity to really talk about how much more expensive things are with our operation Paul and I early in the year had a conversation about the cost of going up for cart rentals and having that conversation I think helped Paul better understand how much more we're paying for carts this lease period than we have been in the past so being able to share that and have having two-way conversation or I don't I get tired of I feel like staff does all the talking or pros and you all are listening but we're really not giving you enough opportunity to talk to us instead of the other way around so fees week we'll probably look at bringing to you in October to at least start that conversation so kind of going along with fees and I don't know if anybody's done this or not have we looked at what other courses I remember and we've subtracted as far as whether courses are raising fees for some drives or dollars over the last five years that we can have a comparison as we all to see that we're staying in line with anybody else and not putting yourself out of the market because we've been doing great with revenue now where we put ourselves out of the market because we're going to raise too much and as much as we've got to study or some data points to look at to make sure we're not giving them and he has that information she did earlier this year that we'll update and provide that to you all it's a little hard to do you can't really compare apples to apples it's not exact but you can see percentages one is one a lot of people have not moved to that yet well they're considering it so that's our published rate I don't know that we have any pricing that the pros have and finding an accessory to 5% what they have raised it's a little comfortable but I do know the data and I don't know what's better for that but the good news about our situation is that we are fluid and not fed if we do raise them up and we find out that that is starting to agree or nobody quickly so then it's like ok well now we maybe have overshot the mood a little bit and now we need to go the other direction so that is a nice thing about the way our fees are now and the way to destruct them and our ability to have that flexibility of dynamic pricing because back in the day we would raise fees and it would take you guys don't remember this because none of y'all were here but it was 6 months of meetings and followed in 6 months of meetings and justifications and all the reasons we had to raise we didn't have to you guys had to eventually either decide for some pacifies or not pacifies then it had to go through council and quite frankly if one person from the public came to council and said no they might just say no and it was very difficult for us the problem we had in the past is we had a lot of board members that basically told us what they're going to pay and we could that's really how it was and it was a really important way to finish the dynamic of the year I think it was one of the reasons we were behind those three projects because we weren't generating the revenue that we should have from long years the dynamic pricing has changed that started the process even before COVID if you go back to when we started the dynamic pricing we look at our incremental increases in revenue year over year yes COVID helped us but we were already digging our way out simply because we were charging differently and back then we were charging less to attract more people now we're charging more and actually keeping around the stable we're charging more and making more which is nice because if you have nothing that's not a problem of course so it's really the flexibility we have now that's the best thing we did the dynamic pricing for our competitors I don't know if you guys find them all right and I looked at what sound banks are doing this weekend you know we got a better find they do and there's times where we're starting to help a lot more than we are so I'll talk to the guys let's dynamic up a little bit and we'll vary this time as well so that dynamic pricing again is getting a lot of leverage to maximize the revenues where we can and also not so much that's a weird but also the opportunity to discount to back to a little sold out just out of curiosity have you had any public feedback on the current thing increased? for example when we talked about rating the only other comment that I had was about the range balls increasing and explained to that person and they were okay with that but generally a little bit of feedback initially about going up $5 but not that not anything real serious because we the customers vary like we're like we're like on a maximum I don't think there's any review that says it's overpriced I've never seen any review that says it's overpriced you greet this $100 plus go force all over the US because I play a lot of golf of course it's apparently yours and even twins what's the saddle heck but even with all that said yeah but the West Nile is free to go with it so folks like as an industry we're all not careful with your price we're all going to price ourselves out it's a little harder than that I mean I think we all need to be careful on the backside there two the other thing to just to add that we no longer have to go to council to have our fees approved when we went to dynamic pricing council delegated that authority to the city manager who then delegated that to me to be able to set fees and because we can't say we want to raise $5 and have to wait two weeks to get to council and then and then we want to lower it $3 and we have to wait another two weeks so it just wouldn't work that way so we've been very lucky to have trust put in the staff and the pros to be able to be responsive which has been great and even hearing your feedback right now can you work with the staff finally we're going to be having this and I'd like to start to talk as you may all know or don't know I'm 84 years old I usually have three guys I used to play golf with all the time for the last 15 years and unfortunately they've all passed away so as a result of that I end up playing with people I don't know like this morning I had two nurses that I'm getting into so I get a feedback from people that I don't know you know etc and I start and I ask them questions what do you like about the course or is there something you'd like to see different or anything like that so along these lines I'm talking about the fees I played with three guys they were in their threes I guess so it was really nice that's nice one nice thing so anyway I said well where are you from and they said well from your area I said well why aren't you playing here first hang on so the price is really nice number two is close number three the course is in fantastic condition and the greens are unacceptable so Keith I want to pass that on to you but they grade about the course and how good the greens were the greens I played with so I want to pass that on to you well I said is there anything that you'd like to see change and they said yes I said go ahead and say it's golf etiquette I thought that was and they played here a long time and they said they knew that because of the fitness we had we had a lot of new players and they said they said I guess I don't they would talk to me I don't know how you would tell a lot of play to improve your etiquette but I don't know if you have any ideas about that and what you could do but I've actually played with several different groups that have complained about the etiquette of people in front of them and I think it's probably because of new players and maybe that's it and I don't know how to get that out to the group I thought I'd pass that on we had a lot of that getting started and the girls had done so I did one of them on ballroom repair that's out there enough to where people are seeing it and all that I mean shut it out on mass emails and I kind of connected back to the website so they can go through the previous yeah you got a scroll down I forget what you call it once you go to Bob I think part of the problem is because some courses are already lower they think that it's a lower quality product and so they don't really have to do the etiquette they feel like this is a place where they can become funny hacks yeah exactly they do don't waste their bits they're just here drinking doing whatever don't care where they're driving how they're reacting or whatever that's been my experience on groups I've seen and it's not all of them it's just two or three groups in an 18-hole that you see but they stick out a lot of the new 23 year olds that are coming which is great I mean it's awesome we need to know our guys to keep it that way but for sure might be etiquette as deteriorated I think the marshal might be helpful don't be like don't be like I wasn't marshal nobody listens for marshal just to give you just to give you a brief synopsis of what we're dealing with we have we have all these folks like yourself who understand etiquette who taught your children etiquette who made golfers out of your children and taught them etiquette my father taught me etiquette my neighbor taught me etiquette I threw a club once and that was the last one I did I learned etiquette from these I learned etiquette from folks that were older than me that I played golf with this group of kids that are now playing golf they all got forced into golf because they couldn't do anything else and nobody has taught these people etiquette and then even more that we have even older folks I got yesterday we had an event down here it was five and a half hours and I had been here in this one group that were kind of all speaking about hooting and hollering and screaming all day long and I can't I'm looking over on 14 I can't help it on 14 or on 5 but I know they're on the back why are they talking to people on 5 and finally they kind of they kind of make their way towards me and at this point I've had it and I just bring them over and I say ok you guys go in you're done I said no you guys are done after five and a half hours you're done and this is the event that we have and the guy looked at me and I'm teaching a 17 year old girl and he said I paid my money I can do whatever I want he doesn't own this place and as he drove off I can't even say what he said and then they all flipped me the bird in the middle of the railroad and they wind up and flip me the bird and he actually asked trying to make the golf getting better for everybody else that's out there because they're doing everybody's day they needed to be done so I basically told the whole tournament you guys go at the marching blocks and I said last hope you're in go get out of here I don't know if they finished or not I didn't care because they were taking advantage and that's what we're up against and that's how they treat the golf pro let me tell you how they're going to treat the marshal it won't be pretty I don't need my guys getting hurt because this guy was ready to go he was ready to go just go drive on now and that's what we're up against and it's tough it really is if you're burning to our attention we know about it I hold my breath from getting on Friday afternoon until Sunday night and I know Ryan does too because I'm calling Ryan every weekend a few broken carts got a bench and I go because someone ran in the bench it's just unbelievable so do we need like a warning plethora to hit the counter they're not going to read not as well, you point it is important because I know Ryan's gone through this give me the ability to start throwing people off but if they if there are no us give me the ability to start throwing people off I would love to but I have the authority to actually do that I have the eye on our attention we've got another good policy though we've got another good policy we can remove them a good lot the only way that's going to happen is if you can stop and that's going to be rare that's what we're going to talk about that's very rare put them on notice whether they behave or not whether you can enforce it or not but if it puts it in their mind that I can be kicked off whether you can or can they might change for them this feedback is what Jeff's asking for and this is the feedback we need the board of the past passed the fees feedback to help us kind of grow this next generation and give them the etiquette they need and we can't be out there with each individual group giving it to them but getting that feedback and getting some tips and some ideas this is helpful for sure I'm going to sign on the first team they're really appreciating for that they're something that even if some people don't even probably know that there's golf etiquette that's exactly that exactly is which is actually kind of I like the music going you know but that's kind of the new thing sometimes they play a little too loud I mean there's certain things that most of them are not bad guys like that we're just loud and crazy and actually great companies you know if we got a never find a way which is if you don't want to deal with them don't play on the weekends that's the thing you come out of the afternoons on the weekends that's when they're there and we got a lot more from now am I going to test this we got a lot more from now because Haystack is gone and Flatiron is like going through some reconstructive place and they're busy all the time anyway so we got all the older kids and there is a ton of these older C's older boys that come over and they play I bet you we have a lot of weekly bases 15 to 50 groups of those kids they were out here today boys were out here today playing Call the boys, Saturday playing golf you guys can never go to class you're going to be stuck because they've got classes tomorrow and Sam's right, they spent a little rain to let him in spent a few bucks like it was nothing well anyway that's one time I can keep up then I played with some other people one of the one of the groups I played with was James Taren and when I was surprised that I didn't know who she was she knew that I was the general of the golf board it was Karen Maroney she said she said I brought my name up at the golf we said they're basically people that don't know who I am she said I worked for a long month for 32 years she said I had some suggestions so I wanted to report this out to you the day that we played it was hot it was really hot she said I wished she said I wish we had some areas where we could get water and and I thought well I'm going to put in a new irrigation system and put some water on it but I played golf in Las Vegas and what they do is if they actually have I can't speak English anymore big tubs water pools water pools about every third or fourth spot and they have cups etc so I didn't know that something we could do here if it was too expensive or something like that let's rewind for a second I play here as well and bring one of these out every time I play and I fill it up on which one? three's working right? okay so I fill it up on four I fill it up on seven I fill it up on fourteen so we have water fountains out there that are within proximity that you can get to and I'm never thirsty when I'm playing because I'm filling it up all the time so the water fountains are already where do you drink it when you play? I don't know so the opportunities to fill up water is there? second thing another agreement brought about to me and that's a sunset and the bathroom issue and today I was playing with kind of women and they had to use the bathroom so we started talking about it and I said well you know right over there there's a bathroom oh I didn't know that and I said well I said if you did know would you have waited until you got around over there and she said no I couldn't have waited she said I don't think I'd want to walk across the fairway on seven so anyway the cleanliness of the toilets is that yeah I guess you know so I thought well what if we designed there and said an additional bathroom were available over there so I had multiple multiple you know it's just an idea and that's easy to do and that's an easy fairway to cross right there right there where the toilet is because you cross there and you don't see anybody nobody coming and they're not going to hit it that far down hill so it's an easy place to cross and it's 75 yards from that but you know it's an additional bathrooms over there the third thing is she said and she said playing in the creek she said could you do something about some of the long holes for women I thought it was her mission but there was a couple of guys there and they said yeah and I said well which holes I was and she couldn't tell me which ones they were but I don't know if there are a couple that are really long for women like an additional thing is that a good thing I don't know she just said could you shorten them or maybe I don't know what you could do the markers in the fairway I was like I had that same before I promised I'd bring these things up for the weekend so I just that was the easiest she said your parts are easy and the white tees are hard for me so I don't know if something is going to be really long if they are really easy maybe for the silver tees their supplies have to take they're right now I mean the additional sort of tees are like a thing you know and that's what we've done here at compete we have what's called beginner tees they're 150 they're 150 and I but here's another beginner she plays in it she's played a league up there for several years at New Creek she's never mentioned that one you're a I heard that one yeah I just wanted to find that one but the other thing was about two weeks ago I guess I got out there got to the clubhouse and all the cars were basically all gas driven what's happened to all to the white battery ones and I found that that might be yes apparently somehow fried 14 of our controllers that took about three weeks to repair on give or take approximately because the cars were finding out that they're so new and the parts aren't readily available so they have to pull the parts off of the assembly line so are those our parts that we just written those are so the parts are leased through us we lease them through EZio so they're our vehicles do we have to pay to do all that repair they're under warranty but warranty did not cover an outside but because it's going to be $14,000 we'll be able to do an insurance claim with our self insurance and get we'll get reimbursed for that that doesn't help us for three weeks when they're not operational so Keith sent some cars from here over Sam sent some cars over and so we worked well together but that's one of those things you can't do it was a weird act of nature that I have never seen to be quite honest so we made it work oh yeah everything has been repaired for the last it was last week a week and a half ago because I had the hands in on Saturday and we had all the entire fleet all 30 vehicles plus 10 of the 12 gassers we had two gassers that are having some issues that Yamaha or Maxx Aware they just haven't come up yet so we made it work well any other items from the board besides me so the new maintenance facility any chance of those bathrooms to be available to the public no it's in the maintenance area because I do get asked a question a lot when are they going to get rid of me well we've had different ideas of adding them but they haven't worked when we were going to build at the central location it was close enough that we could have put a restroom there but right now that's on track well if there's no more items we should join a second call it bigger when joining say hi we'll see you soon