 We are all capable of doing a lot in life, so don't undersell yourself, but a lot of us are very capable to do very big things. And so once you go towards a product manager role, you can start to see how big you can think. Hey guys, this is Dr. Nian City, the founder product manager accelerator from DrNianCity.com. I help people transition from worker B to a product manager and business leader. If you want to learn the most effective way to become a product manager, you should subscribe to the channel and turn on the bell button so that every time you'll be notified when we post a new video every Wednesday. And if you want to learn how exactly Thomas land his PM position in a square competitor company and this is the right video for you to watch, he's going to give you a lot of advice regarding how to get recruiter calls and how to get so many interviews without applying for jobs online and also how he double his salary. So staying healthy and I'm very excited to welcome our guest Thomas. Hey Thomas, can you introduce yourself? Yes. So my name is Thomas. I just landed my dream offer as a PM for a competitor of square remote PM position that also doubled or quadrupled my total compensation from my previous job. And I was able to do this by quitting my job and actively working my PM journey using Nancy's program or I just did that for two months and I was able to get what I was dreaming for. Awesome. Welcome Thomas. Awesome. So let's talk more about your challenges when you get started and especially I bet it takes lots of guts to quit your full-time job. So can you tell us more regarding your challenges when you get started and especially learning and landing your dream job offers like double or quadruple your current salary? Yeah. So one of the biggest challenges was the company I was with it was going to take really long. They were willing to get me to a PM position which is what I wanted but it was going to take really long one to two years. I didn't want to wait that long because I know myself and I think this applies to many people when you're have inspiration for something then you should act on it soon. Otherwise you'll just forget about it. I don't want to be working at the same company doing something I hate five years later. Yeah exactly and I remember when you came in to PM Accelerator you were working for your private employee which was in the hotel industry for about four years right? Yes for four years and I felt like I was working very hard but I didn't see as many rewards in my compensation even though I tried asking for it. So I knew I knew I needed to make a career change and I know this is the right path. I mean I already see it in my from my new job and from not just from that but other interviews. I've had many interviews so some I had to decline because I just had too many or I wasn't interested in them. Once I got on the product manager accelerator program then I was able to see that I had a lot more potential in my career. Perfect. Can you tell us more about your decision-making process in terms of quitting your full-time job? To be very frank with you and I totally admire taking that very brave courageous actions because myself didn't quit my full-time job. I was waiting all hours on HMB and couldn't really do that. You're just like hey I'm done with this. I was underplayed working for too long. I really want to become a pianist. Let me just quit. So what goes through your mind when you decide to quit your full-time job and how you really hash the risk? You know not having a job in hand and we also know that a recession might come. We don't know right? So what's going through your mind and to decide to quit your full-time job? If you can do that again would you still quit your full-time job to focus on P.M.? Yeah easily. I mean even if I get a P.M. job I would still quit because it's a good time to figure out what you want in life like to reevaluate everything. Sometimes we spend a lot of time like in our work and we forget about everything else so even our own career like where we want to go. Well it was on my mind when I was quitting so I took a coding boot camp last year because I thought I wanted to be an engineer and I did that for six months and I graduated completed but I just never got a job after that because I just didn't care at that point so I just know that if I have if I like and I saw students getting results there's many students in your program that were getting results and that was motivating to me to me that like okay this program works I just need to put in the right work and I'll get the result. So and I knew I was when I work a job like many people you devote all your attention to there like that be your job is your priority so then you don't have it's hard to make time for other things so getting a P.M. job that was my number one priority I didn't want my current job to be my priority and I knew I could always come back or I could get another job so that was my that was my thought process. Another thing so I took the program for a month like I was just participating in class I didn't set my update my LinkedIn or anything I wasn't actively applying I was just participating in the class and from that too I was able to just evaluate over time by seeing students that were getting results in that time and that's why I knew if I was just going to keep working and participating that wasn't going to get me the results I needed to make this my number one priority. I see so tell us more regarding your timeline so people understand and also they can make their own decision what does this look like and and this may be stressful maybe not stressful so just tell us the the real secrets behind your timeline what does it look like to quit your job. January participating in the program February quit my job March mental break and then April was when I really started because I we get a resume review from a Amazon recruiter and she encouraged me you're she told me like she looked at my resume which I've learned how to update from your program she gave me the inspiration she said you're more than ready you can apply I was just waiting because I was trying to perfect my resume too much so I started in April basically or end of March I started like I flipped on my LinkedIn to open for offers and then I just see there's just tons of interview requests coming every day and yeah so then all I did was I just took interview requests as they came in and I still have even though it's off because I don't want them to message me I still get people messaging me so but yeah April was when I had probably 15 plus interviews maybe like 20 plus interview requests and I had one I had one offer that I didn't want and then I got this other offer which is like my dream this is very in line with what I want in my like in my life in my career path so my basically this is my dream job yeah awesome awesome you mentioned earlier that you were underpaid can you tell us more how exactly you actually doubled actually more than double is between double and like four times your salary can you give us some tips regarding how can you really make it happen to everybody yeah I think just being in this like going for a product manager role it's very high compensation compared to other roles how did I get that it's just transitioning to a product like joining a program and then transitioning to making the just product manager roles and shooting for the highest position possible like the highest senior like I'm not direct I'm not ready for director but senior p.m. positions I didn't apply for it directly like that that's what people they saw I had six years of experience so that's usually senior yeah so they would come to me for senior and yeah I see so basically you update your LinkedIn follow our strategies and and all the sudden people reach out to you saying hey you're ready for a senior position for our companies you're like ooh me senior yeah exactly I didn't even I didn't see myself as a senior p.m. um but people were coming to me as like oh we have a senior p.m. job for you so um you mentioned earlier that your challenges was that in your current role and it will take you at least one or two years really gradually transition into p.m. can you give us specific advice regarding how did you conquer those challenges yes um quit your job you can't then make this your number one priority so maybe every morning you'll work on part like use all your energy towards the p.m. a program and then work on your other stuff and you mentioned LinkedIn playing a really important role for you to learn so many interviews but lots of our audience have such a hard time to learning interviews so do you have any specific tips for people to get more like interview opportunities without applying for jobs online yep um so I have three three suggestions so first is to update all your prior responsibilities and accomplishments to include the p.m. keywords and target it towards p.m. because that's what you're going for and number two I would once you update your your titles your responsibilities and all that then you want to flip the in LinkedIn there's an option to change what you're that you're open for opportunities um and also uh you can put in what titles that you're open for so the product manager uh associate product manager senior product manager all right thank you so much Thomas for sharing with us and I believe you give so much like encouragement inspiration for everybody who is thinking about prioritizing their time maybe quitting their job or maybe your keep your job and really put a lot of time into pursuing the product management career and actually one of the uh thing you said which really enlightened me is that if you're dedicated to try to pursue something you gotta take actions now why wait until sometime in the future because eventually will last for like 10 years and 20 years is still where you were never moving towards your p.m. career thank you so much for sharing with us Thomas any last minute tips for everybody um yeah so I would just say we are all capable of doing a lot in in life so don't undersell yourself there's many I feel that when we work a job and we get a lot of us are can be underpaid and then you feel undervalued but a lot of us are very capable to do very big things and so once you go towards a product manager role you can start to see how how big you can think and and actually uh work towards that if you're also interested in p.m accelerator and let us help you to get the same kind of result um here is what you need to do step number one go to this website and register for our free master class to learn how can you lend your dream product manager job offer within six days and afterwards we're going to tell you more about product manager accelerator and then you can submit your application or reserve your early birth ticket um then we're going to see you to qualify for this program brown that's amazing I love everything just said that's amazing awesome all right so thank you so much Thomas I love actually your final statement and I believe this will push lots of people to take actions today and and really put priorities in terms of career growth thank you very much for sharing with us and best of luck joining your new company at the like square competitor company very excited for you thank you thank you for having me and I I hope this helps somebody out there yeah it will be well be thank you so much for joining us all right if anybody you guys love the content we provide today and also tips we share with you guys please make sure to like this video and share it with anybody who is thinking about quitting their job or making dedication to move towards a product management career and we believe that so much you guys can learn from each other in this community together so this is Dr. Nancy Lee I'm going to see you next time bye