 It's 6.15 on May 23rd, 2022, and we posted the agenda in three places, right? I saw a couple of them on the website and emailed interested parties, so we're properly warned we can move forward. And I think I'm going to start off initially with the meeting minutes from the May 9 meeting. And I didn't see any corrections. I did not either. Nope, so I moved to approve those minutes. Second that. All in favor? Aye. Frank is here on Zoom, so he must put a thumb up or something, I presume. I didn't read him. So I just abstained. I didn't vote for it. Yeah, I didn't see him. Okay. We have, did you say Todd is here? Yep, we have. Oh, on Zoom. All right. Okay. Yep. So, Todd, you want to speak? I have your letter here about the, this year's 100 on 100 relay race. And I guess you're reaching out again to see about having to stop here in Rochester. Do you want to explain what you're talking about? Okay, well, first, first I'll give you a correction. This is the Vermont Grand Fondo, not the 100 on 100. So this is a different event. Yeah. This is why we're not getting the right ones. That's why we're getting weird emails. Sorry. All right. Well, good thing that you're here to stay. So this is Vermont. Now we know what Andy's doing. What's the date? So the date is June, June 25th. Oh my God. So there's multiple things happening on June 25th. What, what are you, what were you, so I guess this application on 100 and 100 is not the one to. Okay. So I guess it's good thing you're here. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, we've been, we should, should I give you a brief on the event? Is everyone familiar with it? Yeah, you might as well give us a brief while you're here. Yeah. Okay. So it's been a few years since we came through Rochester due to road construction, which is. You know, it's happening again this year, right? Um, On where? On right 100 between Stockbridge and Rochester is scheduled to be resurfaced this summer. In fact, they've been working on it for the last few weeks. We've been working on it. We've been dealing with culverts and recently in the village, we're doing the stormwater drains. Okay. Good to know. Yeah. I didn't see it on the V trans schedule. Is that not a V trans? It is. It is. Okay. I'll have to look again. Well, That's fine. We've, we've, we've had to deal with culvert work before. So it's nothing new. And, uh, you know, Not worried about the repaving either. So. Um, So the, um, Where, uh, the grand Vermont, Cron Fondo is a, is a 100 mile. Uh, it's, it's, it's a, we have three routes, 180 and a 40, but our 40 doesn't come through Rochester. Our 80 mile and our 100 mile will come through Rochester. Um, tip. And we'll be, um, We do, we're a four gap 100 mile ride. So we're not a race. Uh, we do have a race element, which is a time segments on each of the gaps, but we don't do a full event. Time. So we're, we're, uh, we're not a race in a traditional sense. Um, And we're timed on the gaps for the national national ground Fondo championships points. So, um, it's recreational for 90% of the event. Um, the, um, years past we've, we've come over branding gap and then come head north on 100 and gone over Middlebury back to the, to our venue. Um, this year we're doing reverse. We're coming over. Uh, and the, this is the second half of the loop. So we come over Middlebury gap down through Rochester, Hancock, Rochester and up over branding gap. Um, so the, uh, The hope is to, um, have a rest stop, uh, in town. Um, there's either, either on the town green or, or I did notice, uh, there's a little gazebo down from the, down from your shop. Um, that North. I on the North side. Yeah. On the North end. Um, which is on the correct side of the road. So we don't have to have riders cross the road to, to get to a rest stop, which the town green would be. Um, so, you know, it seemed like a possible spot. I wasn't a hundred percent sure what who owned that or if that was, you know, that was a town, that's a town, town park. Yeah. And that would be much more appropriate than the, the main green or the main park because there's, that's already got some events planned for that on that day. But it needs to be noted that you can't block the firehouse. So you have to maintain people, not parking vehicles in front of the firehouse. Yeah. At the most we would have two vehicles, which would be the people who are attending the, you know, are, uh, are manning, personing the, uh, the, the rest stop. The riders won't have. Yeah. You know, vehicles, there's no support of that, like individual riders support. We have, we have tech support and motocross or motorcycle support for the event, but no one will be parking beyond two vehicles. Okay. There's a parking ride right across the street. Perfect. Perfect. And, um, you know, we'd have two, two to three 10 by 10 foot tents. And we have a bunch of, um, you know, you know, we've put a handful of bike racks out in front so the bikes wouldn't, you know, Scattered get scattered over. So we'd keep everything nice and tidy. Times. Okay. Times times. Roughly around 10 o'clock to, I put six on the application that that's probably a bit late. Um, but it'd be about 10 a.m. To four at the latest. Did you send an application in because I don't have one here. I did this morning. This morning, what an email. Yeah. Uh-huh. I didn't see it. You send it to the town clerk. I sent it to, um, should be to, is it Julie? Yep. Uh, let me see here. Actually, I sent it yesterday. To Julie Smith. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, we have, um, Kristen was, um, there is another applicant. What were you just talking indicating there? Yeah, I submitted an application for the same day. Um, for the fundraiser for Eric Ballinger. At this park by the fire. Yeah, we'll be like our cookouts at the firehouse. And then we were hoping to like overflow into, onto the park that day. Onto the park that day. Yep. And put a quarter tank down there for the kids to play in. And water. And then there's another event, which has been in the planning stages for six months. On Dorothy Robson. Right. And is that on that park? And that's going to be, um, around parking around the park and at Pierce Hall and at the auditorium. Well done. 100. 100 uses the school. What about the, yeah, Lions Club or, um, well that, or Lions Club or, or the Rochester, I know a hundred on a hundred users are, or the school. The school might be, um, might be more appropriate. Get through town. Yeah. It sounds like both parks, boy, two parks. Um, busy day. There is, there is also the Lions Club Park, which is just north of town, that first bridge, down, um, has kind of a steep little gravel, um, access down to the parking area. So I don't know if that would be, um, as, as, as, as, um, there's that, isn't there a, the Port of Rye area. The Port of Rye. They have their own tents, then they could just use that side of the road. That way, if it overlaps, it wouldn't be too bad. Yeah, school is, um, it might get a little, a little tight there. Like that point about not having to cross the road and just be on the same side of the road. Well, you hear, um, what the, uh, conflicts are, what, what are you thinking, Todd? Um, well, ideally, uh, be on the right hand side of the road would be great. The, the, um, the parking ride. Um, it would be, um, I would think that perhaps. That might be utilized for the fundraiser that the, um, fire department is holding. Um, at the same time. Yeah. Now the school, the school parking lot on the south end of town has got plenty of room and it's on the right side of the road. And it would be, um, you know, not crammed in with any of these other two events. Yeah. Okay. How I'm looking on. I'm, I don't, you know, I'm not really fussed like, like, you know, I'm kind of, I'm kind of going off recommendations a bit from you guys. You know, I'm not like, I got to be here. I got to be there or else, you know. Yeah. It's school over by that day. Yeah. Yeah. So that would, um, send you to the school for, um, permission to use that, that parking lot there. Yeah. That'd be easy and easy out with pavements. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, totally. I mean, it sounds like there's a lot going on that day. So is the 100 done 100 having a rest stop there in town as well? They are not the same day. No, there's an August. No, there's an August. Oh, they're in August. Okay. But they typically use that they have for many years. Don't they use the school? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like there's a lot going on that day. I know. 100. Yeah. Nothing else the rest of the summer. But that day. So is the 100 done 100 having a rest stop there in town as well? Not the same day. No, there's an August. No, there's an August. Yeah. Yeah. So like the school, I think they do. So yeah, I think it would be pretty pretty easy to get permission from the. Yeah, we can send Erica's. Um, Todd, Julie and I can send you, um, Erica's information at the school so you can reach out to her if you'd like, that would be that would be great. Um, Yeah. And I can pursue that. Bringing in a porta potty or anything like that. Yes. We have a porta potty. Okay. Yeah All right. Well, um, good thing we're talking about it now, right? All right, well, they'll send you that contact information and we'll We'll look for the grand fondue ease Yeah, and do you have any? Questions I believe you have my my general road road use permission application already Julie's check into her email really quick. We didn't remember seeing it when we got in today And that that we that got sent to you That got sent to you a little while ago State highway, yeah, it's a state highway We don't really have I mean it's it's nice to be alerted and to know about it, but I don't think that I I think that Have my blessing The V trans and the DPS both require me to have permission from all the towns that the event goes through And I can send it to you again But yeah, well last time we came through town. It was the same thing you guys And you had a signed form that they want. Yeah, you want to resend that? Yeah And then maybe we could Include that when we send you the contact info for the School. Yeah, that would be that would be great. I'm sending it to now So but you if you need to get on to other items, I don't need to yeah Yeah, I think we got it covered. Okay, cool Yes, I have Julie's Want to give me the other is there another person I need to email this to You could send it to everything is spelled out. It's assistant town clerk Okay At Rochester Vermont org Okay, yeah, okay Great. Thank you all. Yeah, thank you. Yeah All right next guest we've got Burley Griffith talking about Hocking up to the town sewer. So where is your Where's your place? What are you thinking? So we are just north of town we're kind of Diagonally up the hill from the end of Robinson Drive The terry and Eric Bowen are our nearest neighbors and we're just after them They are on town water and sewer And I have talked to them about possibly putting a Y into their line And going on down the hill. There's a pump station at the bottom of the hill at Robert Mayer's old house And then it pumps over to the to the leech field there by the by the tennis courts So basically we're just we're hoping to get that process moving and we're here to See what we need to do as far as permitting or asking for permission from you guys and I thought Terry Severe was going to be here, but apparently he is Is not to speak a little more to the sort of towns to our aspect of it Is that what you're here to talk about? this wouldn't obviously come to the town for other than to Terry and The fellow from Dubois and King that that Overseas the town water and sewer allocations But this one's a little unique and The reason we're here is I was chatting through it with Terry Severe and he mentioned as Just in the general You know request of hey, is it even really possible for this particular residence to hook on to town water and sewer. What are the options because? Burley and his wife's options on their own site are Either minimal impossible or prohibitively expensive so I started to look towards the municipal system route and Terry and I've talked at length about it a couple times and There is one manhole. I'm actually looking at the town water and sort of right now. That's basically on that Piece of property that was Beth frock and John Graham's that was a town buyout Ideally In a you know the best case scenario would be that this this particular residence could just gravity flow right to that Manhole and it would just be a simple request that the town for allocation That that you know doesn't require a slight board meeting boom. You asked Terry Severe. We talked with Jeremy Rathbun is the name came to me at Du Bois and King Yep, do we have the capacity if you're going through the permitting of the state? What's a little tricky is gravity flow To that manhole, which is the closest manhole. That's it's the only manhole that's on the other side of the brook that comes down and it's You can't really get gravity flow From Burley site to that manhole. So Terry said you know what? There's one the next thing that came Into the conversation is that there's a pump station that's down in On private land And Robert Mayer's piece that's across Robinson Drive from his building But Terry I wish he was here to use the words himself to try to paraphrase he's He said that the permitting status and Condition of that pump station is questionable That it was not necessarily ever in his understanding properly permitted But it that it does pump to the town System to that manhole that I mentioned on the former grand frock lot And so Terry started to to talk through you know Getting that pump station Upgraded improved for the two residences that are on it permitted Watertight so that it doesn't take on storm water which according to Terry is apparently an issue significant issue with that Which then is an issue for the town system if a Pump station that pumps to the town system is taking on storm water. That's no good He was concerned about the age of the pump the fact that there's only one pump With multiple residences and he thought it might be an opportunity for that pump station to get Permanent improved replaced upsized any of the above as part of Both helping the town system helping this particular landowner helping those other two landowners that are currently flowing to it and that at some point are gonna Probably have an issue on their hands is what he said And you know that that's certainly all seemed very reasonable both in the best interest of the town these landowners who are Have an immediate issue the other two landowners who have maybe an issue down the road at what time we don't know I don't myself have any Direct knowledge of that pump station so everything I'm saying now is what as I understand it through Terry But he is obviously very knowledgeable about the tons water and source systems and and then as a side note and the kind of the other reason we're here is because in talking with two rivers about The eligibility and feasibility of ARPA funding to be used for their town office Retaining wall project. We got talking about whether or not great to say this pump station would also be a possible Approvable useful use of ARPA money Given that that other fund that was available in April for residential folks who are having on-site septic issues had was immediately it was under such high demand that it got Eating up real quick everyone went for it There's a huge need for that in the state that fund became available I think maybe for a mother federal funding that came through during COVID but it Was very quickly eating up and it's now been closed. It was going to go on to like a rolling Approval application thing, but even that has it's basically to my understanding been shut down So two rivers had said during that phone conversation about the retaining wall You know this could if the town was interested be another possible use of our funding to Help, you know three landowners and the town system get a needed upgrade and So that's you know certainly up to the top whether or not that funding is available for that purpose Or how much of that funding might be available for that purpose or for just Design and then figuring out, you know, there's a lot more steps that kind of need to happen before any kind of construction happens and figuring out What's the capacity of the existing pump station? What is the permitting status of it what upgrades would need to happen to it to add more flow to it? So it's a multifaceted request Is it in there in the basement in their house or no outside right in the so you can see the little Control station and alarm right across from Robert Mayer's Building is just like a little loft that somebody maybe him kind of gardens on it's grassy. There's a garden It's right adjacent to the bow and small structure that looks unused there That's like a little studio or something If that ever needed to hook up to soar this might be where it would go So it's on private land and it's just in in the Almost in the right away of Robinson. Well, I've seen that little building flood It's no six eight inches of water in it before. Yeah, so that's that's another thing I was just looking at the The flood map that particular pump station. I was curious about its proximity to the hundred-year flood It's just out there. There's a mapped hundred-year flood obviously for the white and then there's a mapped Without design flood elevations hundred-year flood zone for the brook, but it's it's just outside of that Which is a good thing But it's certainly one where if you were to upgrade it or permit it or replace it You'd want to make sure here. Yeah, you were well above, you know with the cover Meet all the floodplain rules but it just The reason we're here basically is because Terry Ears perked up when I started talking about that area and he said oh that pump station That's been kind of something that has bothered him for a while if there was any chance through this project to maybe Fix that so it sounds like in his his mind being the waste water Man here that that's In an idea that he would approve it. Yes, that was that's I wouldn't even be here if yeah Terry Yeah, kind of actually introduce the idea Now how it gets funded is certainly up to the town. Yeah Well, and there would be there'd be a certain amount from from you guys for funding it too I would think they were I mean our immediate concern is is trying to figure out how we're gonna You know design and permit the yeah pipe down the hill and you know if we can tee into our neighbor system and then There That's kind of the simple part the tough part for me is if that permit that pump station was never permitted prior I can't It's existing Now so it kind of falls into that pseudo grandfathered state But Terry Severi is the man I go to say hey, can we hook on to that which I kind of already did yeah He basically said ooh that pump station. Yeah, we got to fix that Can I back step a little bit? Yeah, of course What is it that failed with their existing system the leech field? Each field is is in a so Why is it that in my understanding an existing leech field could be removed in a new one put in its place Is that why is that not possible on that particular lot it is? Potentially possible if it Is it's going to be very pricey and it with some test bit Exploration if I may find that it may not even be possible There's very small amount of area on their particular lot that has slopes that are suitable for On-site wastewater disposal system. There's a very small Flat-ish area up there and all that's on the small flat-ish area is the house and a spring and a shallow spring has a 150 500-foot isolation zone around it as you know, so even if we could find an area It's I always look for best fix with the existing house situation because the state does have that best fix I don't know if I could find a best fix here So so Burley's mind and my mind went went to the municipal option because it's one of those where Boy, it's really shallow to live everywhere And leggy very very leggy, which obviously we know a lot a lot sir, but and What's left for flat-ish area has all the infrastructure on it, so it would be drilling a new well water supply a hundred feet away from where I might or might not be able to find Right, so it's good to stay it for the record. Yeah I know that that Terry's not here, so it's still probably his stronger opinion on that but With the larger system that would hope their home into it Would there be a likelihood that? There's a couple more houses up route 100. Well, that's popped into my head as well because 10 to 12 years ago The previous owner of that apartment house that's north of the village was having as I recall is a long time ago, but it is I think it was sewer system Issues that may have since resolved or maybe what he has Both a lot of you know all of the above and I remember Tenably during that time kind of looking into the possibility of hooking that particular apartment house on that town Now if this pump station was Improved that would certainly be where that one could hook on to so that's another one of those kind of like Fire waiting to happen things that you know and that also made me think about gosh If we were to improve this pump station for these three residences the two that are currently on it the Griffiths Maybe it's worth if it's in the town's best interest, you know, maybe it's worth designing it for Five residences in case, you know, say that studio Also wanted to hook on that's on the bones property and maybe that apartment building, you know but that that's get certainly getting into a project that's Outside of their funding capabilities But maybe in the town's best interest and if there's You know if there is my federal money available, maybe it is the time to Try to attack something like that at least at the design level so you can figure out if it's That's feasible if it's worth doing what the cost even is of such a thing and are we in an emergency situation here? Yeah, no, it's as you know from being Yeah, as you know Someone who deals with that kind of stuff. It's it's something that we can you know address temporarily Yeah, they're doing the best they can We've done our best to live long. We're Instructing the kids not to flush more than they have to and So is that something that I know who would start exploring the permitting process with the state on that I could do that if To this point my time is just then you know as a good friend Ideally if it turned into a bigger project ideally it would be something that you know be compensated Well, I would be inclined to say start investigating Yeah, and I you know Waiting until the next select board meeting, you know It's under the urgent category We would probably want to keep this process moving along So I wouldn't want you to say well, it's gonna be two weeks before the select board meets again We're gonna talk to them Whatever you discover. Oh, yeah, no, it's been goes when along goes to Terry. Yeah. Yeah All right at the formal request level then what might be available for design funding I can work through with Joan or Yeah, be nice to know. I mean there is this could I know if this falls under the I'm throwing everything at ARPA now, but I know these for some This is exactly what our first floor was yeah, the response I got but that's not my decision to make so yeah Yeah, well, I guess it'd be good to Investigate what other options are are out there, you know, I guess that would be something that Joan could look into But but yeah, we might as well start the you know investigating what the process what's going to be needed and And then I'll kind of unfold what kind of money we're talking about. Yeah. Okay. Yeah But meanwhile there's some two bathrooms There's a porta potty on the park All right Yeah, well now's the time to do it. You don't want to be having this conversation Yeah, it was I mean never great timing for that, but it was perfect timing The ground had thought it was a perfect timing All right, thank you To be continued, I guess yeah It is Michaela on zoom. Um, she's not on zoom, but I'm acting as Michaela. Okay, if I could please yeah I'm talking about the softball tournament that left so many people limping around town after the last one Yeah So she is requesting to host a softball tournament for 18 for people 18 years and older Play at your own risk on Saturday, July 2nd beginning at 9 in the morning going until she's not sure yet at the Rochester softball field She has a couple of requests this year she would like to request a clean porta potty down by the tennis courts and This year She's still working out some of the details But they are going they would like to suggest an entry fee for each team of $150 to go towards the field maintenance that they would like to do To improve the safety of the field and she's also looking to see if we can get permission to do field upgrades they would like to Turn it all up and roll it all out Using the funds that people pay to register their team and then she said that the remaining funds would be used to a fund Razor towards skate space On top of that she also wanted to add Thoughts on food vendors like if it would be possible to have to allow people to come down With food she was kind of thinking like maybe jewelry with her little thing And so that's it and if it's approved she would like to she has an advertisement flyer that she's created With the rules and then a registration form that goes along with it that she would put out there if it's approved I Would like to flip note that request Since he is the the founding father of the the concept last year So So could you tell me what does that mean to turn up and roll out? Um, I don't really know. It's kind of like she said it needs to be turned up She was hoping to ask Charlie Smith with his Harley rake Thing and then have it rolled by Ray Harvey apparently she's spoken to these two. Yeah Yeah, we're just to smooth the surface. Yeah, there was like quite a few hole like divots in the ground where people fell and You know it's funny for those of us watching, but I guess not when you were playing. Yeah Well, I don't have any problems with it sounds like they had fun Yeah, so we need to make the formal Approval of that Frank How do you feel that? Yeah, I'm here. I saw you sleep I'm okay with it Right here I am The Tim Pratt Memorial softball tournament on July 2nd. I second that Brinks as I So we also have a Park use application for the use of the new park for the 100 on 100 relay race Not on June That's on First thing on the So It's the first thing Okay, but I thought that was the one we just had the name wrong I thought that was the one that Todd was talking about Okay, pardon me And what was the date on that again August 13th Okay, thank you. Yep. Yep Okay, and we already talked about the request to hook up to the town water system and then the softball Yep, so we have another park use application for the fire department to use the new park on June 25th for fundraiser for Eric Bounder That's great that we have two parks that we can host to Events at the same time in town here. Yeah, so I'd move to approve that Yeah, all in favor Brinks as I break says I already thank you and You have the The new contract to the Windsor County Sheriff's Department law enforcement services and this is going to be with the Modified scheduling Sheriff's Department shall provide to the town fully equipped and trained deputy sheriffs for the purpose of satisfying law Enforcement needs within the town and these services shall be provided in patrols for eight hours per week Consisting of a minimum Duration of four hours each patrol the patrol shall be scheduled by the Sheriff's Department with the approval of the town and I'd move to approve this contract No, I'm favor Thanks as I Two shifts So this will be here for you to sign at your leisure when you come in Frank Yeah, no do that so we've got Something here from the state of Vermont Department of Forest Parks and Recreation About the reappointment of the town Forest Fire Warden and It's expiring on June 30th of 2022 and he's recommending that our current warden be Reappointed for a period of five years and that is Ray Harvey All in favor Hey, there's another Park use application Must be summertime and this is from the Rochester Public Library and this would be on from 3 30 to 4 30 on Fridays ranging from 6 3 through 10 7 and Stories in the park stories games and crafts for children all free But I think they did this last year and it didn't end up being any Trouble and people enjoyed it. So I've moved to approve that use Soon it's at the same time and dates as a farmer's market choose so it worked out really well Next on the agenda we have liquor license for the Reopening of the Facility at the White River Golf Club and Tony Page is the applicant and this is On the premises clubhouse of the White River Golf Club first floor building including the attached deck and I believe that they also Give an exception for golf courses to allow on the course Yep, so noted, so I Move to approve All in favor. I need a second Good timing I can second it. Yeah, all right, Frank can second it Frank second it all in favor Hi, hi, Tony Frank says I So is this something that you need to Yep, but it will need all of you all of us in here. So All right, all of us who can tour out of the three do it do out of three Okay, yeah, good Tony needs to run this down pretty quick tomorrow Early the first day is on Saturday So you're hoping to be open for Memorial Day I have Elizabeth Who's gonna do some training? Yeah between it's gonna be mostly me That was just the one All right Yeah Another park use application Yeah for application on behalf of the farmers market on Fridays May 27th through August 7th I'd move to approve. There's no one here to talk about it. I think they're I'm assuming they would keep the format that they used before that tend to spread the wear Yes I think she was in what a tour emit maybe a month ago She just never filled out an application and this was just a formal application that she filled out But she was gonna put it in the same place as I recall as she did last year I Okay, and then we have Request to authorize building reserve expenditure and this is Transfer funds from the town building reserve into the general fund to pay James Harvey for work that he's done This building here $931 and 59 cents Yeah, and it's great that he could jump on that and do it. It's looking good. So I'd move to approve that All in favor Excuse me, dude, did I understand you correctly that it was for work done on the town office building? Yes, thank you We found some rotten clavards that needed to be replaced before it got painted And when they installed the generator there was some Bad spot there along that railing that we had to replace some of that behind the railing and tear the railing off so Turned out to be a little more work than what we originally thought alright, so we have With a little discussion about the sidewalk paving that's Ranging from the old fire station to school street and that was right along where they'd been tearing up the street doing the new storm drain in which case they dislodged some of the granite curbing in fact one wouldn't set down Flush because the catch basin is bigger and more robust than the original one and and we've got the folks that were doing the work are willing to They gave us a quote for what was it twenty six thousand dollars, I believe to reset the curbing and excavate the old sidewalk and Put down some gravel and tamp it and repaid that and Feeling that since that is kind of Triggered by the the damage done to it by the paving that we can just go ahead and And execute that contract without having to do our normal Procurement process where there are some other paving in town sidewalk paving that we will put out to bid and follow the process But in this situation, I think that we're justified to go ahead and take advantage of the fact that they're right there and willing to do it so And we have a contract that it will be no more than this is a set price right right and I'm thinking that this is the perfect application of some of the ARPA funds because it's for Public to move safely outside So it's going to the fire station or the old fire station or it's not going further down Down it's basically a dressing that section that has the granite curbing right there in front of the Buildings there, which is and it's been a liability that the payment has been horrible Are they aware that the ADA compliant? I believe the sidewalk needs to be four feet wide So as long as it's ADA compliant as well, so we don't have to rip it up or do it because it's not wide Yeah, that's what the bid is for four foot wide Yeah, but not included that is that's included the four foot wide and He's 12 inches of gravel Tamped in and repave and straighten in the curbing and Doing whatever And then dealing with the lawns because those lawns The topography they drop right into the sidewalk. So it's gonna have to re-sculpt their lawns a little bit So what about the snow plows? The snow blower whatever they use Is that gonna fit on that? Oh, yeah, because this is Yeah 48 inches Yeah, it has to be for wheelchair accessibility But four feet is Most snow blowers are But the one that he thought to use was 36 or so But it was um, he was able to do it now without totally destroying the little stone wall along there. So That's gonna have to get reworked. I guess So yeah, it should be I don't think it's gonna be Do to pass it right so I moved to approve By a second all in favor. All right. Hi Rakes as I Oh, we have another park use application Fourth of July for the traditional chicken barbecue and raffle So we all know that's a good time so I'd move to approve that one All in favor Frank says aye One of these days I'm not going to say aye All right, we got There's another park use application for Pierce Hall for the ice cream social in historic car show on 626 that's the day after the The busy 25th Yeah, it's gonna be a very busy weekend I would move to approve yet another park use application Yes, we have this last year as well. Yep. Yep. Yep. I second it all in favor Frank says aye Okay, and come down to Asking the select board to approve going forward with an environmental study of the high school property in conjunction with the Rochester the RSUD Rochester School Unified District No Stockbridge, I'm sorry. Stockbridge. I didn't mean to vogue out your ass. I That's me Catherine Shanklin. All right So I'm not coming on on video because I want to I want to make sure that I am giving you all the right and pertinent information To make this decision So I'm going to read All right, and the first going to start out by last Friday on the 19th of May Vic Robato and I as co-chairs of the repurposing committee the high school repurposing committee met by zoom with Sarah Wright of two Rivers, Otakui Chi and Erica Hoffman-Keyes the executive director of Green Mountain Economic Development Corporation To review what needs to happen in order to meet state and federal environmental requirements in order to be eligible for government grants to develop the property and to avoid legal liability for Existing environmental contamination of the property. So Why is it that this just came to our attention now? You all know that we on behalf of town put an application into Senator Sanders for Congressionally directed spending requests and that We've been receiving significant support from Senator Sanders and his committee And so I contacted Josh. I contact I tried to contact everybody Including all the select board members just to basically give them a heads up about this. I also spoke to Josh Hanford Who said did you do the NEPA? And I said no, I don't even know what the NEPA is it turns out That's the National Environmental Proaction Act is well in order to qualify for federal money You have to get this process started and I said, okay And that basically put us in the stage where we are right now Back to two rivers and talking about the whole process for environmental Assessment of the school property because certainly if we're going to be given a good chunk of money The federal government we want to be able to qualify for that So we have been in the process of learning about what that means Because when the property changes ownership the responsibility and liability for mitigation of the environment Environmental contaminants transfers with the ownership. So this process has to start before the property is acquired So there are two separate state and federal liabilities that go with contamination. There's also a separate phase Phase one at for the at for the state process and phase two of for the federal process and They a little different like they work in parallel these as the NEPA can work in in parallel with the brown fields Reuse and environmental liability a limitation, which is for short called Brella. So Two rivers is qualified and prepared to assist with projects like ours with meeting the Brella requirements And at least for part of the NEPA program and the NEPA program is is a broader research Not just in via the actual environmental Contaminants and whatever but it did it goes into historical Aspects of the property and things like that So I think that that Victoria actually started us with the NEPA when we Applied for the feasibility study and I've been waiting for Sarah to get back with me with exactly what Victoria did in that regard So as I said once the potential buyer which in this case We're hoping is oh the potential buyer the Rochester Slickboard in this case, right? Advises to rivers of its desire to participate in the Brella the two river staff Sarah Right in this particular case will file an application on the town's behalf to receive state approval That the site is eligible for eventual enrollment in the Brella program the current owner, which is the The Rochester Stockbridge Unified School District must give permission for the site to be assessed for contamination And once the application is submitted it typically takes three to four weeks for a state decision in on eligibility And that's basically what we're asking right now the town to go forward with to to engage two rivers so that they can file this application on the town's behalf to receive state approval That the site is eligible for the enrollment and we do need the school board to you know Give the okay for that the following an affirmative state decision on site eligibility The next step is for the town to ask two rivers to undertake a phase one brown field assessment This is essentially a desk audit in which a search is conducted for any existing documentation of contamination or potential or potential Contamination of the property whether the documents are in the possession of the owner or governmental agencies technically after the phase one document phase the town could go ahead and vote for acquisition of the property without having any penalty, but There are reasons for the town to actually go through phase one and phase two Before the vote is made and go into that so the cost of phase one is approximately $3,500 For which two rivers has grant funds available And this process takes about a month to complete and to produce a report which is submitted to the Vermont Agency of Natural Resources A&R It then takes about another month to receive state acknowledgment that the report has been completed When completed phase one provides relief from federal legal liability for contamination Phase one must be completed within six months prior to property acquisition If acquisition is delayed and occurs more than six months after phase one then phase one can be repeated and updated at a later date Upon completion of phase one the town I just as I said can apply for participation in the Brella program and enter into phase two of the Brownfield assessment step one of Phase two is creation of a work plan for the on-site physical assessment for contamination Where e.g. Where where to drill the holes in the building how many pressure testing of the underground oil tank Where to drill the holes in the ground and other sampling methods to find and quantify contaminants Two rivers can assist with the selection of a qualified consultant to do this work Which would cost between four or five thousand dollars and take about two months to rivers can probably obtain funding for it Step two of the phase two is the actual physical sampling to be conducted by Qualified contractors and Sarah advises that the time and cost Required can vary depending on the specific site and level of contamination Not knowing the high school that well She guessed it might take three to four months to complete at a cost of thirty to fifty thirty five thousand dollars The state will monitor this process and could require additional sampling beyond the work plan Which would add to the cost and time required? There are governmental grant funds available and would need to be applied for when she was pretty confident that That all of that would be taken care of the cost of all of this But the completion of the competition for contractors could also Lengthen the timeline Apparently that's one of the biggest issues is the availability of contractors With completion of face to the buyer i.e. the town would have a clear picture of the property Contamination and what it might cost to clean it up. Should they go to a fire? the town could either proceed with that position or decline to buy the property at this point with no obligation whatsoever to to To do any remediation if it acquires the property it is required to clean it up If it declines then the seller who would be the school board would be required to do the cleanup of the site There are government funds available to pay for the cleanup So the neva process is a similar to the Brella process in some ways But broader in scope review for the presence of archaeological and historic aspects to the site And the process may have begun and or partially been completed by two rivers This is repeating what I what I you know sort of ad-libbed And so Sarah is going to do the research to find this out Therefore it will take about nine months and maybe longer for the town to be able to make an informed decision about whether to acquire the property or not as far as environmental contamination is concerned and so Anyway, here we are tonight and Sorry for my reading, but as you could see it's complicated and I just didn't want to Trust my memory that I I wanted to put it down as I heard it as it was told to us So what we're coming to you tonight is is to actually ask the town to proceed with the request of two rivers Just you know to file the application to the state to make us Go forward and the state will then get back to us saying whether we whether the site is eligible and And I quite frankly, you know The school is in Rochester, so I wouldn't I wouldn't know why we wouldn't want to know all the information about that site as You know as the town well, it's obvious that in as we approach a final Decision by the voters of the town about whether or not to buy that property This is a critical information that we need to do it So it seems to me a no-brainer that we have to make this request to two rivers to to initiate this Process yes, I mean in going forward at all in our investigative Yeah We have to continue on For the only issue I have as a as a member of the board is I don't want this to fall in our lap any of this That's why I don't think that's right I think if you guys are really heavily want to pursue this and there's a lot of legwork to be done I don't want it thrown on the select board Well, we understand That the select board is doing the business of the town and the school board is doing the business of education we understand that clearly and We have been asked to pursue You know all the options regarding the high school and we're steadily working at that So we we get that Frank And Certainly, you know the town would want to have as much information as possible. So, you know, we've just written a second major grant and The first grant was was awarded and we're in the feasibility study phase Which is on its way to conclusion, but we're in the next phase. We we applied for senator Sanders You know the whole senator Sanders grant senator Sanders has funded our project But now it has gone to the next hurdle It's gone from his office to the the federal the the congressional appropriations committee. So There's going to be a whole, you know, other kind of interrogation process that will go on as We go through that process too. So that's why we're not naming any amount of money right now In the morning say kind of public way because we don't we want to manage expectations and not go on the record that hey We've got X amount of money, but because we still have to have approval from the Congress Regardless of the money that that could be coming down the line this this whole process I see is necessary just to make the informed decision on the town about whether or not to what we'd be getting I'm surprised that the original Feasibility study didn't and didn't include this point And I asked that I asked that of the consultant theater and he had assumed it had already been completed So that's why we got to the stage where we are because nobody had ever mentioned that to me Not from two rivers or anybody who had been advising on on this. So we're you know, this is this is the first time I've ever worked on such a project is this This size and I'm learning a lot as I go along But I do believe that we have tremendous support from Significant agencies and now we have the support of one of our state senators going forward. So We're in a good place. I understand what Frank saying. I understand, you know, the responsibility That we've taken on because I'm the one who's doing a lot of the grant writing So, yeah, I mean two rivers is there to support us to the process. Why not, you know, why would we not do this? well, I guess Yeah, I think we have the information it's not sounding like We're incurring any any cost to the town at this point to To move forward to have the two rivers has got funding to to do these kinds of studies So I think it's you know, we have to you know, this is a pretty easy step and a necessary step to take The point the underlying point is that the timing of the environmental study does bring us through another winter. Oh, yeah If there's funding to support the building throughout the winter upcoming winter they are Doing a lot of analysis on what it costs to sustain the building last winter, which was a cold winter The actual cost they they weren't able to really put their finger on it but I understand that Robert Mayer rolled up his sleeves with Tara and They got down to the nitty gritty on it So those numbers will be coming out and then it will be determined what will be necessary to support the Building one more winter And the reason and the reason there was some confusion on that is because that $15,000 figure was was not did not represent the stock bridge portion of the heat Which was the agreement the condition on that school board meeting back in September? 2021 so And that was something that didn't get translated to Tara So we're trying to figure out what the actual stock bridge portion of the school energy costs were Which is what Rochester is liable to pay or agreed to pay. We still don't have that figure and I Won't support that in the future Paying for that without ownership and I'm not going to go through that the school owns that building And they should be the ones that keep it up not the town of Rochester. I'm sorry, but that's the way I feel And I don't think it's right that the voters of this community have to put up with that The school owns that building and they need to heat it and fund it And if they don't then I don't know why we want to do that. That just doesn't make any sense to me I'm sorry, but that's the way I feel. I know that's the way you feel Well, that's the way you feel now because you didn't Catherine didn't approve of that $5 oil You're gonna see a major increase in cost and trying to keep that building alive. I Understand I understand the concern that of what we're dealing with right now with inflation the pandemic It's a real consideration. I understand that We've also been told that if you shutter that building and turn off the heat and the power that you will heed the foundation and destroy it And then we'll have you know a 33,000 foot square foot mess on our hands in the middle of the town It's gonna cost you a million dollars to tear it down So one way or the other you if you don't understand what what we're doing I mean the whole reason that the school has decided they don't want that building anymore and we're you know In the feasibility study to give the voters of Rochester the information they need to vote to acquire the building And so the whole conditions were met to allow the you know The the consultants to have access to the building throughout the duration of the feasibility study as this process has Unfolded we have discovered more and more, you know, like the whole environment The need to have the environmental assessment before acquisition and as we've delved more deeply into the environmental assessment It's absolutely in the town's best interest to know everything about the property before they acquire it of course or not Yeah, yeah or not That's right. So that that that vote so you know It is what it is Frank And It's the schools. It's not the town of Rochester's and I We pay enough in our school taxes to support that building and if they don't want to heat it for the winter That's their issue because if it does a lot of damage in the town finally does decide to buy it They're responsible for that damage So so I think I think we need to play hard ball with them and say, you know If you want to however you want to market this building you market it the way you want to but you have to maintain it And that's just the way it should be I'm not arguing with you Frank. All I am is the middle guy here because I'm not at the cider We've been working for as you know a long time do in addition to some of us having full-time jobs To try to come to some sort of completion and understanding of the potential of the building I am not arguing with you. I did not make the condition that was the condition made by the school board what I said to the school board when I gave them a More modified version of all this because I didn't have haven't had the the full meeting with Sarah and Erica yet Was that I would hope That that at this point going forward that we could work in partnership the two deciding boards Could work in partnership to to reach a goal that would be of mutual benefit to both sides The idea of playing hardball I would like people to actually talk to each other About their concerns and to say look let's work together to make this happen So for the town to and I understand we are we are the second of a two-town School district and we're the larger portion of that school district, right? So we're already paying with our school taxes Frank makes a very good and valid point one that I've also made, you know Yeah, so that's that's that's not the um, that's not the issue at hand Yeah, that's Coming it's just it'll that'll be coming up. I'm sure and um, you know, we've made the decision to maybe you know A little quickly but in an effort to appease the Stockbridge school Contingency of the school to um and and a show of good faith and that was a one-year commitment to Cough up some money to help You know keep the building in a stable place. That's you know, that's a future decision going forward and it is the school board's building and the um, I don't know if they can You know if they can even legally just let the building go to hell by you know deciding not to heat it so but our our decision tonight is whether we're going to ask two rivers to move forward on our behalf to to Start the studies for the environmental concerns and this may um, you know The the heating the building may be the the least of our concerns depending on what what shows up in in these studies, so I um Yeah, I think that um, I would move to approve the the request to two rivers to to initiate the The process of getting the phase one study done I'll make a comment before I second um In from my point of view this environmental study Is something that falls within the camp of the school in order for them to transfer ownership? This is supposed to be done So therefore it should be done by the school But katharine's right the school is in the business of educating students. Um, so It is in our better interests to walk through this process And we would get the results and we would ask the questions that we need to know If we're the one instituting this if the school is doing it It's it's just haphazardly going to get done and probably take a lot longer So it is in our better interests to be the one to institute it Even though I believe that the school should be the one doing this before transferring ownership to us um But that said I think that uh, there's a school board meeting Tomorrow night a special school board meeting with that. This is on their agenda So in order to expedite this A little bit quicker um, I second the motion I just want to add to something you said I don't you're in the middle of discussing the vote. So I'll wait till after you vote Yeah, I just seconded it. Yeah, just seconded it. So all in favor. I I'll say I I abstain Okay, because I wanted to Comment on it and before it was voted, but that's okay I abstain Okay, let's go on All right I just wanted to add then if I could do something that patty said and maybe because I read it was less clear but The town The town can go through phase one and phase two And vote not to acquire the building with no obligation towards making any Any remediation You know effort so I don't think there's a risk to the town. Do you patty? No, because once once the building is identified with any deficit at all Someone has to fix it. So if we see that the building has millions of dollars worth of Problems that need to be remedied We can decide not to accept the building and the school at that point would have to Remediate those problems So Entering into this study guarantees that that building if it has any sickness or lead or oil leakage or any Proposal justice it guarantees us that that building will end up being a healthy secure building So we will at least at the very least end up with a high school that is a good strong safe building Well and to speak to um frank referring to wanting to play hardball this in a way is Throwing that is this you know what we're paying we're we're not paying what we're asking For two rivers to pay for and these studies and another grant money for is Who is in a way playing hardball because we're going to find out what the school is offering us And then if this information comes out that it's like There's big problems here that some it forces them to To um to deal with it So frank i'd like to hear what comment you wanted to make before the vote. I didn't mean to I just I just want to say that you know, we're responsible for the town's money So I think that's our obligation. It's not to this project. It's not to anything else It's to the taxpayer of the community and that's what we have to be responsible for And and you can spell all these free money things all you want to but there's a hidden cost in back of those and everybody knows it so In order if we keep digging you're going to find more more things to go wrong and also More money to spend and I think we have to be very careful as a select board going forward that we're Being pretty careful with the town's money here That's all I'd say dude All right, um, so that's um That's that Joan are you on online tonight? I'm here Yep, what have what have you got for us tonight? Of course I have a summary of The discussion is about uh, whether the town wants to discontinue a section of bingo road Beyond where a gate would be installed And let the fire service which owns land On either side of the existing road beyond that gate to essentially Take over the portion that's under the road So frank asked me to do a little research on what what the process is for discontinuing a road Um, so far what I've done is uh, read the state statutes with regards to it and it's a little I'm gonna I'll run through it with you and then Let you know that the thing I need to do next is get sort of a plain language step one step two step three uh, hopefully from Two rivers Might be able to help me do that. So it's really clear exactly what the town Needs to do to that you knew that road if that's what you decide you want to do So it's online highways, uh, the state statutes chapter seven First the laying out the discontinuing and the reclassification of highways what the process is Um Voters or landowners in the town if there's at least five percent of them of the voters Can petition the select board to take that kind of action or the select board itself can choose to take an action In this case it would be to initiate Proceedings to discontinue a section of bingo bingo road um First what the select board has to do is set a time and a day to what they call examine the premises Which I believe basically is a site visit to just go out there and discuss and agree On where it is that you want to start this discontinuous discontinuation to start And what it looks like, um, who the landowners are there? And what the condition of the road is now and anything else that's relevant um, and then from there, um The select board I have to decide to move ahead You give notice to the planning board post a notice in the town clerk's office and publish a notice in the paper Not less than 10 days before you have set a time and a date for a public hearing on the matter Um, and also, uh notice some of these things don't apply in this particular situation, but I'm just going through them anyway Um, you have to send a notice by certified mail To any property owner who might be affected by the discontinuance of the road In this case, I understand that it's only forest service ownership beyond where we want to might want to discontinue Um, but I guess uh to follow all the steps you'd have to notify the forest services That uh, this is something you're um interested in doing um And then the select board's decision essentially You're charged with determining whether the discontinuance would serve the public good That it's a necessity And or it's a convenience of the town Uh to throw up this section of road um, you'd have to be able to Either find in the records what the meets and bounds are of the roads are currently And if you don't have record of that, um, you would have to have a survey done To show exactly where those meets and bounds are And then within 60 days of the completion of the examination and Hearing haven't been held The select board reports your findings to the public and to all interested parties And then you vote to discontinue if that's what you decide to do Um, and then that decision gets recorded in the town records um Because anything else that's relevant here If the if the road happens that's going to be discontinued happens to be the sole access to somebody's property beyond the point where it's closed You have to find a way to compensate them for that loss or Usually what's done is that you allow them to have a permanent right of way which gives them access to their property I don't know that there's any private ownerships beyond that point. I think it's all service land I have no idea what we're talking about. Yeah, why are we giving up part of bingo road? Maybe uh, be best for Frank to um I met with chris matrick there a week or so ago and we went up the bingo they put a gate up near the end It's on our part of the road And basically it's way at the end where it enters where it I know it's in the wrong spot Uh, not according to them and i'm not going to argue with where the gate is But the idea is why are we even keeping it? It's nine tenths of a mile up there The only landowner is the u.s. Forest service We're going to have to maintain it for the next Oh five years anyway while they're logging up there during the winter The road is going to need re-graveling It's going to need to be ditched reditched and and probably stone lined in places And there's anywhere from 12 to 15 culverts up through there and one bridge And it goes to absolutely nowhere. It doesn't service anybody And it's just a forest service. That's it And if we go up beyond harlins there a little ways past the The two camps there that are on the left and there's a third one across the brook and you'll see uh Where the the boundary line comes across the road there and you go a little bit further up the hill and there's a turnout right there And we look john has looked at it and thought if it could be a little bigger We could turn the truck around there and Get rid of that road going up. So we don't have to maintain it in the winter And it's in over the years probably the last 50 years I don't think we've ever had to maintain that because nobody logged up in there for quite a number of years So we haven't had to do anything with it during the winter. We've turned around right there at clean gap road Which you know made it good for the skiers and everything to do the loop. So I'm I just don't see why we need to continue to own it and talking with chris he was going to look and see and what the government would require And I tried to get a hold of him today, but I couldn't so I I think it's in our interest to look at it and maybe make a decision on it and if you do have time drive up through there and see what i'm talking about And uh, it's not going to affect anybody. We have no taxpayers above there and it's nine tenths of a mile I don't think we get hardly any money as far as from the state for having a class three road that Nobody uses and if we wind up having to put a lot of money into it I don't know what for you know because it doesn't serve anybody Okay, well that was my next question. How much state funding would be lost by giving up this nine tenths of a mile According to john it's right around a thousand bucks a year Is what he figured anyway I don't know how he figured it. He just spouted it off As for the culverts in the ditching we would have that's a hydrologically connected road So we would have funding through the clean water the clean water act to to perform That maintenance that you say is needed That's true Just needed to have all this information Yep, no problem, but I don't know Pat I don't know what chris is going to recommend what the government does on these situations either And he wasn't sure he was going to look into it So we could form a consensus Because they would still I would think they would still maintain that as a road for access to their property up there Well, they'd probably treat it like they do the ends roads anyway doing they they gate them off In the you know during the season there during the winter time and And so that's how they'd use it they just They just own more road there. They just You know have a gate down lower. That's all Does it serve uh christin and the people up there is that the road that One summertime they use it They go up there on the summertime, but that's but they're already On far service road To you know to get up past that four-way intersection So it's uh, there would be somebody to notify there is a private landowner up that way But it's not off of our road it that's at that point. It's off of the thresher thresher hill, which is for service road. Yeah Well, I think it's uh Definitely, um We're looking at and talking about it. I don't definitely not making a decision tonight about it, but it's good. Um Anything else from jim? Um, yeah, what else um jim, what else you got? Uh, I seen you saw my email that we did get some funds from fema Mm-hmm. Thank you more to come What were those for jim? Sorry What were the funds from fema for? 2019 storm. Okay. Thank you. Yeah um And we're gonna come the final category that i'm compiling now is for What they call category z which is the administrative cross which is um, essentially my time Uh to do the fema work since the storm hit Uh, so i'm putting together all of my time sheets starting in april 2019 through today To see what that's up to they've allocated 25 000 dollars in change For that and i have no idea how that'll add up We will get reimbursed at least some possibly Of my time For the fema work That'd be good. Thank you Um, is that it now? Yeah, it's off now We don't have anybody from the library here tonight No, sir. I'm in. Nope We were just kind of talking about highway issue and um There's nothing other than that on the um, terry. We did talk about utility's a little bit even though he's not here Um, is jeff get part here is the energy? Nope. Nope um and um for um I have one thing that I think that we should Why don't we set a meeting to invite the public to come and give us their um thoughts about The dwindling supply of arpa money Before we spend it all We we've mentioned that we would and and people have been bringing us suggestions like susie and the you know dog Vcs collection stations So, what do you think? What's your fantasy? Is this something we would do? I think we should stay away from june 25th Okay, yeah This is something the town just can't take it I agree with that. Do we do we want to make it as a Separate meeting in front of a select board meeting just to keep to our schedules From getting overpriced or do you want to have it be a separate time all together or what's your fantasy? Well, if we go in front of a board meeting we might want a lot of people it might be too early for them People that work. Yeah So we we do want to have it as successful accessible the whole general public is possible. So probably a separate day. Yeah Is that are they are those Is the list available to the public of what you've already committed the funding towards The smallest it's a pretty small list. Um, but we could um Um, I would think that would be like three or four three or four things I think that that meeting that would be a good time to you know, have that conversation and share. I mean we can um put out a list of people are interested in or want to know but it's um Right now I think we have mentioned some but yes in the the um warning for the meeting then that would Could be included in that warning. No, it makes sense. Yeah I include like the amount of the funding because you said it's a dwindling fund. So Knowing what you've already targeted towards what's in the list Would be helpful. Yep. Yep Well, excuse me dune. Where would the meeting be you said it's a public meeting. Will it be there at the town office? It's probably be at the town office and and uh with the zoom, you know, would you be willing to do a zoom as well? Yeah, yeah, okay. Thank you to that. Yeah I feel like Frank. Did you have something that you've been trying to add? No, no, I'm good. I'm just I got a pitch on the back of my neck I just scratched in the back of my neck So um, so let's see when we're at um, probably not next monday because that's moral day No, and Tuesday after that is the planning board meeting We have the capital meetings scheduled for june 1st, I think And then there's one every other week for that Could you do it might be June 6th? That's what Pat just pointed at the calendar there. That's um, yeah I think for um, this is like a special meeting I don't know if it has to be 30 days Yeah So what do you say the 6th? I like the 6th. Yeah What time? 6 at 6 All right Good and then in the uh, the warning we can um, you know detail what we've um, what we've thought about You might have to give that give that some special accolades in the paper if you could I'm I'm that's why I was asking all the details. Yeah All right, because the following week the 13th you have one of your regular select board meetings. All right All right, um, does anyone else have anything else they'd like to speak about tonight Did I move to adjourn I second all in favor. Hi. Hi Break says I Thank you. Good night. Yeah. Good night