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sure you tap in with all that content re-listen to it you know i'm saying you might get a new understanding each time you listen to it so appreciate everybody you know we've got to raise this consciousness you know consciousness you know it predates our actions so if we as a conscious people aware of our condition we is taking every moment every second uh of the day and realizing how can we put our best foot forward in the name of humanity in the name of ending oppression in the name of ending euro-american control you know because if we all care about love like we all be saying we do we should love ourselves and that love for ourselves should be turned into a love for people a love for humanity so our last two episodes have uh been focused more on the international terrain which uh you have to connect them right even though this is going to be i guess more of a domestic a quote-unquote domestic analysis um what happens internationally impacts what happened here and what happens here uh ultimately impacts what happens internationally especially as we talk about uh the president the presidential election uh we understand that whoever uh becomes the next president of the united states is nothing more than a frontrunner investor uh a frontrunner and vessel for western capitalist military domination which can be summed up into the term imperialism so i don't care if it's joe biden i don't care if it's donald trump i don't care if it's someone from the green party i don't care if it's someone from the socialist party whoever governs this nation will be an imperialist or criminal and a genocidal terrorist because that person is still subject to the first second of being in office still subject to nato to imf to the world bank to the constitution of the united states of america period the laws i made up so let's talk about that right there are folks uh that said well continue to say to get joe biden elected uh it's the less show two evils what does that mean now as the less show two evils just put together another three point seven billion dollar package for the undress unjust state of israel i don't know how you can fix your lips just tell somebody to go vote for joe biden after joe biden has literally just militarily and economically like he's been doing his whole career backed israel and backed israel's war on the palestinian people i don't know how you can tell somebody to vote for somebody who was allowing for all these bombs over 6000 bombs that have been dropped on palestinian people and you're going to tell somebody to vote for joe biden voting for joe biden is voting for genocide that is the fact of the matter i agree so evil is evil essentially this is this is america that has uh two different parties that have uh similar interests of american nationalism or white american nationalism of capitalism of imperialism they might defer on how to do it uh but they are united all right so again to be uh an american president is to be a commander and chief of genocide i don't care if you're a democrat or a republican right the republicans listen to this right oh yeah he talking about joe biden i'm talking about y'all too but to say that somehow it's the lesser of two evils because that's what happened in 2020 oh we need to go vote we need to vote and get uh trump out of office never trump but look what joe biden has done he put more police in the streets he's front of the military more and he is uh actively actively supporting and commanding uh this genocide against palestinians right now yep you tell me that's less evil for you to go to hell less evil for who like what are we talking about here what are we talking about here so again even on the right side trump i'm not saying that but you can't vote for you both of them is evil evil is evil and this has been made very clear very clear so we gotta rid ourselves from this uh european euro american way of thinking that voting uh for the lesser of two evils is something that we can do that has just gone out the window now we're on the verge of world war three and you want to tell me to vote for someone uh who is putting this country on a path to world war three even though that you know this path predates him right but this is someone who is actively a part of that genocide evil is evil every single president like amiri he's amir said uh every presidents do presidents shit every president of this country will be a genocidal terrorist terrorist on day one and that's the fact of the matter you know so this cannot be the same strategy because if we even have a data analysis look at what biden did compared to trump let's look at that we'll just have a was let the facts present themselves the facts of him giving more money to the polis the facts of him starting this ukraine uh proxy war russia the facts of him uh green lighting uh israel israel's genocide on the palestinians this has all happened in the past four years right so no we can't make that same i won't say we made the same mistake i mean we made the mistake in letting it happen because of our lack of organization our lack of cadres being established our lack of uh uh fronts being established to actually uh contest euro american control over our day-to-day lives but to simply say this is a western to evils and we just got to vote our way out of this in that uh uh joe biden and democratic party is somehow less evil get out of here i think leave leave but i think something that's been interesting you know when we first started the episode he was talking a bit about you know the green party and whoever is running for the president of the united states of america you know cornell west you know have as we've said has been a zionist something that we pointed to uh for a bit now right uh and he you know with this ongoing israeli uh zionist aggression on the people of palestine you know he's came out of there's a full fledged uh supporter of zionism like he he he is taking even the little camouflage things that he would try to do here and there that might camouflage his actions like he's came out as a a full fledged supporter right uh so why i don't know why do you think people uplifted them why did you why do you think people aligned with them you know and got behind his campaign and have been getting biased campaign and they're still behind his campaign i have a few thoughts on it i would say the first thing i want to get at is the thing that i think people might try to combat uh cornell west is not being a zionist is his take on uh a two state solution uh two state resolution i've come to understand two states two state resolution israel has no right to exist a jewish settler colonial genocidal project dominated by eastern european supported by the western world has no right or merit um if you want to know more about that analysis again take heed to uh episodes 148 and 149 so anytime somebody's saying oh they can they can exist peacefully no eastern european jews should go back to eastern europe palestine should be freed and be given uh reparations as we come to understand reparations as new africans right uh the establishment of industries the releasing of all palestinian political prisoners and prisoners of war uh actual money the establishment of the palestinian state nation state and all the institutions and international recognition that that comes with like an actual um for now uh recognition by the united nations because the palace palestine has a i think like an observer or uh they have like an observer they don't have they're not and i actually recognize as a state by the united nations and so i think these are all things that need to come in terms of reparations and so this is what i understand as freedom i don't think a two state uh solution is in the solution at all i think is uh a fascist tactic right as that's how i come to understand it but to your point around why do people prop them up specifically folks on the quote-unquote left um i would say either naivety but so many people who claim to be dialectical historical materialism students of history and masters of the science of uh the advancing of society and economic and economic systems in the subsequent institutions i don't know how a group could be so naive uh so i would have to chunk it up to uh them i wouldn't say falling victim more so taking advantage of the legitimacy that can be found through the illegitimate system of capitalism right um there's something about engaging with reactionary elements that gives your platform more rank and it really is nasty work you go like well you really see nasty work going on here my brother my nigga jaz says it's really it's nasty it's nasty work it's nasty work and darry's mom says very strange there you go strange strange and nasty shout out to darrys and jaz but uh he is it's really wicked things and again i think at times i'm like damn these people naivety but again these are folks who claim to be students of history and masters of the science and clearly understand economic societal development and i think that it is them trying to take advantage of this moment um and position themselves for careers and or seats at the table i think what we're seeing right now based off the presidential election and the height of the palestinian resistance that is giving uh a new light to the israeli palestinian conflict i think what we're seeing now is the veil of neoliberalism being removed off so many folks who are able to present themselves as supporters of decolonization uh through their takes on african uh and also their takes on domestic resistance via the 2020 uprisings so i think now you start to see who these people really are i will i will i would never i don't see any reason for us to put cornel else on here and allow him to uh my dear brother to speak to speak his platform and never like really challenge it you feel me like to really poke holes and stay what we say right now like a you a zionist you was like you a zionist a two-state resolution is a fascist zionist effort all right i don't see no no platforms doing it i think they're bringing him on where his christian theology plays into the role you feel me i see i see him being used as a method of views and to have a relationship so that because his platform will be bigger posters that's the fact these platforms that bring him on uh they have been legitimized through the illegitimate uh zionist you feel me that's what i mean like black people see cornel west on different black platforms and are going to say this is where i should be getting my news from if because we know what capitalism's whole thing is celebrity whole thing is so if celebrity comes onto your platform it must be real it must be true then you partner that with uh these folks and they're different uh let's say organizing legacies or their different uh statuses in the academic arena like these people are having a full-pronged approach to really position themselves as the next you know what i would say opportunities and careers uh under the under the guise of uh being a revolutionary of being uh you know uh pushes of decolonization so really nasty work that we're watching but you like commentary said you could fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time and a lot of y'all go have to be hiding behind these irons because you're not going to be able to in uh infiltrate the revolutionary new african community because we said what on the last episode rep repression raises consciousness and when they the people see what's exactly what's going on they see all of us put together you feel me the people very easily are going to know who is on the side of independence and who is on the side of integration there's only two sides you either free you ain't either a slave or you free and we're trying to be on the free side so i think you know thinking about this election and definitely how you know even people who say to be socialists legitimize elections in some way right so it's you know people like corner west running for president but then you have socialists running for president how does this justify these bourgeoisie elections of the presidential office of the united snakes of america i mean it legitimizes it period it's an attempt to me it's an attempt to legitimize it right if socialism is supposed to be directly opposed to capitalism i think a socialist organization putting into putting energy into an illegitimate capitalist process like the electoral college just doesn't make much sense to me right the time power money that could be spent building real alternatives uh putting together a campaign that is guaranteed to lose is just wow to me like you know then you're going to lose period right even in more let's play quote-unquote progressive nations like russia uh the communist party is the second largest party and that nation is still governed by capitalist and conservatives this the socialist organizations won't be done but a drop in a bucket they won't they won't be done by the dropping the dropping a bucket and i've we said before on our past like uh our past episodes that analyze elections electoral processes right uh the crumbs of neoliberalism will happen regardless so-called revolutionaries don't have to give that our energy you're going to get the concessions they have to get the concessions because of neoliberals because of folks who push civil and human rights but actually don't mind uh capitalism because of liberals who push civil and human rights but don't mind capitalism this is going to happen you don't need to the you don't need to put your money in that you don't need to put your time and money into this and i think the socialist that learned before all the ones that was so-called socialist puts in bernie sanders if bernie sanders couldn't win you think they finna put that's wild maybe they will i was gonna say maybe they will put them in for uh like you know representation purposes to be another but like nigga no it's not going down like that telling y'all he'd be as honest he went full flash so again these socialists who are supposed to be coming out somewhere camps that's the thing you know but these socialists again who are supposed to understand history why would you spend your time doing this and again like cornell's campaign is gonna get millions of dollars this is money that could be going into building houses this is money that could be going into providing free healthcare this is this is money that could be going uh to actually building sustainable programs to where you know all these dialectical historical materialists know that you need programs to engage in protracted struggle so now you finna funnel millions of dollars into this uh this process that for the most part is either there's two options right i see either you say that you come out and you state again how illegitimate this is what you should have known it was or you go out and you back joe by the democratic party it's the only like there has to we have to have a different way of thinking but like i feel like that's the only like what what comes of this we know they're not going to win so they say like oh this was illegitimate you should have been new you should have been new like you now use the you linenist like you could use this whole time yeah illegitimate election so we're not going to build towards elections because that is doing what saying that this election actually has some type of memory instead of like you're saying spending all this money doing these campaigns spending all these monies on these uh social media strategies on these marketing millions of dollars are going to let's be real that's what's happening but millions of dollars actually invested into community and then now how do we as raise the consciousness of the masses of the people you know i'm saying who might even have good intentions but how do we raise the consciousness to a level to where they say no we is going to hold these people accountable and say no we don't want you doing this no but why are you doing this why are you a so-called socialist organization doing this why are you saying okay we're progressive and you're doing or whatever that even means we know why actually right but why are you doing this but when the people rise up and say no we want these we want this money to go to the people we want this money to go to the community i mean if you if you claiming socialism only see it going two ways brother claiming the illegitimacy of the electoral process which we all been knew or saying ah we put up a good fight y'all our best next option is Joe Biden and that's what the left has a so-called left has done historically every four years they show their ass i mean because you're still getting people involved into thinking about voting even if you don't necessarily go out there and say just vote for Joe Biden you have what a campaign talking about you have legitimized you have legitimized legitimated the process of voting for what a settler colony what's what a genocidal colony what you have done what they have done is alluded to the chance of democracy and we need to talk about that so we talked about this a little less let's really get into it we talked about what's actually needed which is some community power and community programs so how do we actually build community power and what is true democracy yeah power is only going to be built when the masses of people's consciousness is raised from one state of being to another state of being right when i was trying to get out earlier okay if we see this happening and the people see this is happening the people have the power to be able to say no on a small level on a small form right uh of organization doing all these things and spending millions behind this millions of on on a campaign people have the power to say no but that's going to take a a mass consciousness a mass awakening uh out of this prison of a mindset that says i have to vote every four years and or every two years whatever whenever the elections are you know i'm saying whether it's local but we got to be able to uh uplift and shift people's consciousness to say that voting is the very like what is voting for a system of which allows a president to get elected through electoral college when you don't even have the choice what does that mean but we have to change the way people think to seem okay no my day-to-day actions my day-to-day movement in the community is actually a part of building quote-unquote democracy my day-to-day engagement with people around me my day-to-day discussions with people my day-to-day uh implementing changes locally in my community uh getting the people on board with that you know i'm saying so like true power is going to come through the development of revolutionary organization true power is going to come through the development of revolutionary programs that meet meet the needs of the people that put the people into positions of power uh through organizing around their needs through meeting those needs and then uh galvanizing that power that is developed through that organizing and then using that as an offensive to move forward towards actual meaningful change but ultimately if we understand that this united states government is a settler colony and that international law uh forbids settler colonies ultimately it should lead us toward the offensive of what decolonization right so true democracy is actually a people's government a people's government that is uh guided by communal and egalitarian practices where the will of the masses of the people uh is put into priority where day-to-day people is taken care of day-to-day communities is taken care of day-to-day neighborhoods is taken care of right from free housing free healthcare right and these ain't just like uh me buzzwords of uh you know this is like real tangible things that we could touch see feel and benefit from you know people talk all the time about holistic health true democracy is the whole holistic health of people it's the will of people it's the will of humanity uh for the good of humanity and not for the detriment that is a capitalist system that always puts us in uh systems of hyper hyper competition yeah hyper individualism you know the power to the people that's true democracy yeah where the people get to actually make the decisions where the people actually get to make the laws because why are we still governed by laws that were written by white slave holding men that literally had teeth of the enslaved Africans within their mouth and this is the law that is governing our day-to-day our day-to-day life in 2023 but that's why we can't legitimize these elections you know each you know George talks about each uh election we legitimize makes freedom further and further away all right so we got to build these programs for decolonization you know get off the pulpit get off the get off the podcast you might have to get on the pulpit and be on the podcast but don't forget about the program build the program in the community because that's the heartbeat in the lifeline to the community to where the community can begin to organize for its own material needs and make the own decisions that it needs to to benefit and that's what we got to do i mean these elections ain't solving it clearly yeah you hit the nail on the head right where you talk about um understanding right uh while which i would call it like knowledge right which comes through a political education which how can a people actively participate in decision making if they don't fully understand the institutions and processes that govern their lives most most people don't actually understand the the three branches of government they actually do we don't actually understand these things you feel me like we just go and fill up fill out a ballot is that true democracy if you don't understand and then i think the next point you talk to is experience that can only be gained from a programmatic level right the reason why these folks like these people have a clear trajectory they go from running certain businesses to governors mayors like there's like a trajectory how do you plan to govern an entire nation when you have no you don't control any institutions resources or power in your community like really so you supposed to go from doing nothing but you know doing your new your podcast your books whatever whatever you you supposed to go from most these folks are nothing but cultural critics they aren't actually like politicians like even on a small scale like critics is a you ain't you ain't politicking you feel me like you can't actually go out it like you don't go out into your community and politic and now you're supposed to represent millions of people you're supposed to govern an entire nation you don't even make decisions for communities you have no real power you don't know what it is to politic and so i think that any person who goes from being a think that can be a very small scale community organizer at best to the president of the united states with somebody's socialist party fink candidates folks running like just don't make much sense to me or if yo now you're supposed to be the cabinet this the socialist group and y'all have no programs y'all have done nothing to feed thousands of people y'all have nothing to clothe thousands of people y'all have done nothing to feed and educate and clothe hundreds of thousands of people y'all have done no healthcare clinic y'all have done no community restoration projects and now you're supposed to govern a nation like let's get our heads from up out of our asses you know what i'm saying let's just see the light of day again you named it for me bro i feel the same way knowledge and experience in my opinions or my in my opinion are non-negotiables uh for true for true democracy right that's this is how i see it and those can be formed through constant consistent political action education and action tell us y'all about smite maybe y'all agree something though you know following up for from uh episode 149 to some degree right we discussed it a little bit there but just thinking about how uh you know this so-called governor of uh what they call the republic of california sometimes the so-called governor of the state of california governor nuesome you know he went to uh the Zionist land of israel and the Zionist Israeli occupation of Palestine uh and then right after he went to china right so this is governor nuesome going to israel then going to china governor of california so uh i don't know what you think this means uh in a geopolitical realm and then also you know the local american state politics and and nation politics i don't know i think this is an interest in the development potentially from the democratic party i mean i think if you know the role that california plays in the national gdp it makes complete sense why while the chief representative of the state would be traveling to israel um when you also recognize that within the next few years he will be running for president it makes complete sense he has to develop specific relationships so that he can position himself as there won't be any shift in this you should know that i'm coming here into the same exact thing i'm gonna push forward zionism i'm gonna push forward imperialism uh and so that's i think it's hidden just uh running an early campaign and further land the foundations for any type of uh adjustments that needs to be made for imperialism to take its next steps um yeah i see it as both a political and a publicity thing um which will have like material uh results of course i'm uh i know that the visit to china has to do with some sort of um international finance capital but i'm i'm curious to see like what actually comes from it you know um like is it a technology thing uh what natural resources is california going to be able to contribute uh or what natural resources is california looking to get from uh china and how well yeah what's the national impact but again if i think to sum it up i think it's him starting to lay the early foundations for his presidential campaign uh through stating very clearly like this is my policy that i'm pushing forward and just starting to develop those or further develop those relationships yeah now i agree i think uh we'll see what happens you know even in terms of biden's ability but i think they're so new some is on that track he's definitely on that track i would also say it's uh interesting you know california and israel uh if we look at what they produce in export uh to the world uh it's technology yeah you know what i'm saying we talk about silicon valley and you know israel as well being very deeply tied to silicon valley as well as their own technology that is built in the Zionist land of israel so i think that was uh what deals are being made you know i'm saying what deals are being made with infrastructure with cyber security uh what uh technological deals is is being uh forged in this very moment i thought it was very interesting too that he went from israel to china you know uh china is very big in terms of green capitalists california is very big in terms of green capitalism especially as it comes to quote unquote climate change right i said quote unquote because of uh the capitalist exploitation of new markets that are being developed right so it's like seems like deals is being made and positioning him to be this international leader especially in times of growing growing tension between the united states and china it's interesting that they send nusum over there to discuss money yeah you know like these they're making business deals right in front of our face they is playing with us that's why i say we're okay with bricks but what's really happening with bricks when these people are still cutting deals you know i'm saying what is good at bricks were you trading with israel what is good with bricks when someone who just left israel was on some type of mission to israel then you let him into your country what's really happening what's really happening how is he being positioned capital drives everything man that's what it comes down to for some for most of these people no capital capitalism so hello black hope you enjoyed this uh this uh this show we have for y'all a quick will show but we talk that talk