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You can now follow me on all my social media platforms to find out who my latest guest will be and don't forget to click the subscribe button and the notifications button so you are notified for when my next podcast goes live. I used to take myself out and meet other people after football, I'd meet them out on the road, meet them after matches and just go along. You know, oh he's like a bit of boxing now. I fucking love boxing. And that's when things really started to spiral fucking five weeks later and I'm sat on top table with Eddie, Luke Campbell, Tommy Carl, Samir and I got that fight as an opponent. I just drive past Leeds Arena and see it get constructed and I think wow I'd love to fight there one day. You know even if I just don't want to guard. Just for a bit of history. You know to say I've done that. You know you see people on TV and everyone instantly thinks that you're fucking millionaire which is far from it, it was far from it you know and yeah I was starting to do alright but I wanted enough to quit working and everything else. So I was still working. Everything I've ever done up to McCrea it's come to that moment, that next fight and it was a case of now that's ultimately a barbel fucking hell of a world title fight. I never thought when I first started that I'd ever win a world title fucking British shot with a goal, European international titles after that when a bonus all of a sudden fighting for fucking biggest barbel in the fucking world man. Bimber on! Yes! And today's guest we've got undefeated fighter, Josh Warrington. How are you brother? Very well James, very well. I'm just honoured to hear you say that face to face but yeah good to be mate, good to be here. A little bit tired, a little bit tired trying last night, trying hard but yeah I can't complain, I'm breathing, I'm alive. What a title holder. Well title holder. Well title holder. Well title holder. Well title holder. I'm just ranked number one in the world but you're doing amazing mate. Thank you. I watched your film last night as well, unbelievable. I didn't even know you had one out, 350. Oh good man, 350. I'll get about ten pints from that book. I didn't know you had one. I've seen it last night, your Instagram it was two years to the day maybe. Yeah two years today since the premiere, we had a big premiere at Leeds Film Festival, Leeds Town Hall about 800 and 100 in attendance. Yeah end of a bit of a journey that was that film. It approached us back in 2016. It just wanted to do a little documentary. I found the contract actually, it was only meant to be 35 days long. Ended up being three years of filming, over 250 hours of filming and yeah an hour and a half film bought by Universal. I've got the film posted in my downstairs toilet, unbelievable weren't I? So not too bad mate yeah. Do you feel for yourself? Do you feel for yourself? As you know brother, I'll always go back to the start for my guests. Where you grew up and how it all began. Yeah okay, so grew up in Leeds, Leeds born and bred. It's a fucking scandalous accent. Mam dad, two brothers sister, got an older step sister. Just a counsellor state kid, working class. One of them kids who had plenty of energy. Always running about, playing out with his mates. This were grew up in the 90s, so era before phones and technology took over. You go out as soon as you wake up and you come back in when it starts getting dark. Like I say, always a bundle of energy. Started doing a bit of karate because my dad said you needed to calm me down a little bit. Felt like it wasn't physical enough for me. I always used to like to play a fight with my brothers. I always used to like to play a fight with my brothers. I used to watch wrestling on telly. To me, a 7-8-year-old kid watching people put steel chairs over each other's head. What is realistic and violent as possible. I used to get ears and back them next door up. I think I was about 5 or 6 when I watched Braveheart. Forming it mouth and stuff like that. I started doing a bit of karate and it wasn't physical enough for me. I wanted to just go in and boat people round head. I thought I was going to be a ninja or something like that. But there was a lot of discipline in going into that. Katties and things like that. Dad took me to a boxing gym. I was straight after that. 6 or 7 years old. A big building on York Road, a star building. Gym where Nicola Adams had her amateur career as well. I remember walking in there as a young kid. He wasn't back coming next. I was smelling the gym. I was sparing away. I thought, wow, I want to be involved in this. It went on from there mate. Went on from there. Amateur. How was your school then? For a long time. Schooling was fine mate. Fine. I'm going off a little track a little bit here. I've always had a YZ on young shoulders. That's one of my assets from being a young kid. I don't know why. I just always switched on. Always a YZ in a wake. Always used to listen to people. Now, going to school, I always wanted to be the best at everything. Just very competitive. Whether it be punctuality or shit. Everything else, I wanted to be the best in exams. Best in sports and stuff like that. I used to play football. I used to play football non-stop. I absolutely loved playing football. Never good enough to play for a team or anything like that. But I'd play until the cows came home. Just determined to win. Always switched on in school. Always used to listen to around year 9. I started to lose track a little bit because I was obsessed with boxing. By that time, I got to a good stage in boxing. I thought I could have gone somewhere. So, whilst on my pals and that was knuckling down and getting their heads down for exams, I was kind of coming away and I would turn up to school like tired, knackered. I was obsessed with boxing. I was sparring with professionals like 14, 15. I used to take my trainers to school. I used to run home from school. I would go to gym after. I would go to training until like half 9 o'clock at night. I would go to the gym after. I would go to the gym after. I would go to the gym after. I would go to training until like half 9 o'clock at night and I should have been revising. That would be it. That would be it. I just couldn't be asked for school by anybody. I hadn't made that we were going to be a boxer. Prior to that, we just did what I used to do. Like saying, in between all that, as a young kid, I used to just knock about on the stage with my pals. Boxing always gave me a focus. Boxing always gave me a bit of a distraction in a different way of looking at life, I guess. Boxing always gave me a bit of a distraction in a different way of looking at life, I guess. Of course, I grew up on the council estate. I grew up in areas where, you know, if your mum and dad had a sponging system, you've got nice trainers. If your dad's knocking a bit of this out and that out, you've got nice trainers. My dad grafted and he worked hard and he did best he could for us, but we weren't spoiled. We were getting into this and over, even at 13-14, smoking this, sniffing that, taking a bit of glow, doing whatever, licking car radios, you know, burgling. But I never wanted to be that James, I wanted to be better than that. So I knuckled down at school. I did knuckled down, it was like a sense of last bit. And I thought the boxing would take over eventually. You remember your first time ever sparring? Yeah, yeah. So when I first walked into a gym, I was about... I was about four stone. Four stone, I've always been small. I was born premature. I was born premature and I was born with new money around my lungs. So it would touch and go for me, I wouldn't think a bit about the first five weeks of my life. So I think they said to my mum, wrapping me in cotton wool because he's going to be very delicate. I get fucking points to Ed for a living. It's unbelievable. I know, I know. I think that's in the DNA from the start. I think some things had ingrained into us and that is certainly one of them. But yeah, like I said, I would always enjoy that play of fighting with brothers and stuff. So having that first spar, I think I was first sparred with a girl because none of the lads were small enough for me and she knocked fucking seven bells at me. But I wanted to go back and by the time I was eight or nine years old I started getting a bit bigger. I was very competitive in them things and we just knocked seven bells out of each other, stood there in the gym, gloves on gloves as big as your arms. It's just, if I got eight, I wanted to make sure that that person back was pretty obsessed. Suffered with a bit of OCD. I still do it at times. You hit me, I hit you back twice and all the bad numbers and things like that. But yeah, we just talked and listen, don't get me wrong. Like any other kid, childhood, there were times when your pals are going out to play or as you get older, they're going to house parties, hanging about on the street, he's coming out, Josh and I, I'm going to gym. And you think to yourself, why am I doing this? Everyone's going out, I'm missing out on this but my old fella used to say to me, listen, if you're gonna do it, don't fuck about. He said, don't have to do it. Don't waste the time of trainers and the people around. If you're gonna do it, do it 100%, I don't do it at all. And listen to the times at like 11 and 12 and we're getting into high school, I thought, shall I go and play football mate? I just packed the boxing in but I could never let it go. I'm obsessed with it, I always wanted to go. I missed it when I wasn't doing it. That's it, that fucking ticking situation. You're not going again, I'd miss it and I want to go back again. So yeah, just a massive passion. A massive passion, yeah. Your dad, I watched it and it seems awful straight bang on in money to certain things. Did he always train you at a certain age or did he start getting involved like that at stages in your life? No, he used to just take me to gym. He used to just take me to gym, drop me off and that would it. And I think by the time 11 and 12 he started getting involved with some of the lads in gym just because he'd seen the way that the lads had been trained. Now he didn't have a massive boxing background. His little bit was probably the comparison to white colour, you know. Bit of like get your gloves on, you're fighting working men's clubs and stuff like that. He would have dormant for many years back in the time when dormants used to have scraps with people outside. He didn't have a licence, he just beat fuck out of people. He worked up in that country in the days where after the knock fuck had someone normally shake a man and they could speak to him next week not have to worry about getting stabbed next week. And a lot of things what my dad does is he simplifies things and that's what he would do anyway. He would open out some of the lads in the gym and the next minute he's become a trainer and the next minute he's looking after Michael as well but it's not always been easy having my dad in my corner as much as people may think you know your dad's just training or it must be easy or maybe it's... No that makes it worse. Because I've always had it hard off me all for like all these two brothers and my sister. It's always like I've had to set an example and I would like my dad's mate as a kid you know what I mean I used to go with him there and everywhere and we had like a... it were with from my father's and some relationship like he were pals you know and when I went to gym I got it harder than anyone else listen I get like an hard sparring session it's 11 years old and you've got a bush nose, black eye sulking you know you're fucking holding back the tears you're in pain and whatever and he's like that was fucking terrible and then you get you know you're going to get a bollock in your car as well but it gives you a thick skin, tough love yeah very tough love, very tough love and at the time you can't see that you say fucking hell I'm getting a right roasting from my old fella getting home and I'm obviously in house you know what's he done now what a fucking scandalous wasting my time going to gym but I wouldn't have had that any other way because I see that in this day and age they pull a molecule and they don't like failure and as soon as they do get a bit of criticism that's it they're fucking panicking and they can't take it you know I think you need to go through these obstacles to build a bit of resilience and then to bounce back from and that's certainly what I did with my old fella well clearly look at his mouldage ain't it being you've clearly had work and graft but undefeated world champion in the world at 29 29? 29? 14th of November I know my shit mate 13th of November It's tough love but a bit of reverse psychology is where you know you clearly seen the passion, the ability that you could have been and it is difficult to work with family because there's always arguments and fights but there's obviously a trust there most definitely it's hard to trust anybody but if it's your dad then it's a different ball game Listen, throughout the years we've had stand-up rows I mean fucking times because what happens is he's brought me up so his values have been ingrained into me but when you get to an age you become your own man don't you as a young kid you think you know things but you don't know fuck all as a teenager but when you start getting into your early 20s then you've lived a bit of life so you've become your own person and when he's saying certain things to you you think that's not right but he's a proud man as well he's old school you know if he's right he's fucking right and if he's on that opinion he's going with it till the cows come home even if he's wrong, factually he's wrong he'll still argue that he's right and there's been times in camps where we've had fucking stand-up rows mate but when the arm gets lifted at the end of the fight it's all forgot about when we never talk about it again it's just part of parcel it makes it a bit sweeter as I was a kid as I was born he and my mum weren't together and then he'd come back on that scene and I think at the time she'd registered me without his name and I've never just got it changed over what about your first professional fight do you remember the details? oh yeah yeah I mean fucking hell we're going to go that far forward but coming up to being a pro I would never the most talented of amateurs James the never the most talented of amateurs er I just worked hard I've just worked hard was Ellen pics of anything coming off from a young kid from a young kid I had an ambition at 11 years old so I'm trying to fucking try to patch the schedule without going on for too long so the young kid started my boxing at 11 years old and my first fight I'm at your 28 kilos like to say I fucking walked it ring as a few 10 fights whatever and I've won I've won a national title so I'm thinking fucking hell I want to represent my country I want to wear an England vest used to see the lads of a represented country that walk in fucking badges on the shorts England vest on all that bollocks and that's where I want to be and then I won a championships at 15 and I never got a call and I do a lot of politics in game at the time and just becoming a bit disillusioned with it you know it fucking devastated really you know I was expected to go on to fight for four nations and all that didn't happen so it was just for myself and then I was like 15, 16 I'm sparring professionals you know like to Jason, both Darren Robinson these guys were fighting for British titles on Sky Sports and I'm thinking god damn I'm being asked to go and spar with them and I'm holding me home with them so it was inevitable that I was going to be a professional boxer two years away you know I was 16 years old you got to wait a long time and that feels like a lifetime away but I could become a dental technician in between that I worked as a dental technician for seven years even throughout my pro career and and yeah 18 year old with 10 pro and we're on our way it's early on that but like I say I wasn't that's how you're getting a knock back not really I'm not really listening I'm going to think back a little bit upset I'll do this I'm going to be upset but yeah we've got to do better I'm not going to be a pro then we've got to make some out of this I'm not going to be a top class amateur I'm not going to go to Olympics then I'm going to make some out of the professional game and that was it and listen James I never set massive, massive goals I turned pro 18 now dad finished, had me last amateur fighters in 18 year old I boxed Tom Stalker to went on to went on to represent Great Brain in Olympics he beat me in semi-finals of the ABAs fucking apparently I didn't score a point in last round I mean I've got it, I've still on DVDs I don't know how fucking, he's like I'm bouncing my hands off his fucking head and I still didn't score a point but yeah just that was politics in the game at this time after that I was like right I'm turning pro I'm turning pro sat down with my manager or storming manager to this day he said are you not good at anything else because there's fuck all money in this boxing game I said listen all I want to do is try winning a British title try winning a British title if I can get enough money to get a house deposit and a carlet drive then I'll be a nappy man and that was it, that was all my goal wherever it was it wasn't fucking world title it was in followers on social media I didn't want to be famous just house and car, that was it that was all my goals small little goals and that was the journey from there on because you went right through from British title Commonwealth European British and European English British Commonwealth European WBC International and World Tiles you've done it proper boys maybe watching boxers and a lot of people think maybe going Olympic route amateur route you've done it turning pro 18 I know a lot of people go right through to where you are today do you think there's a big difference no no I think you don't have to have that amateur background because I said the name there Tom Stalker, he were very decorated amateur and now Tom's a pretty good lad but he didn't make it as a pro he didn't transition over one of the main lads were on a bike in the gym last night Naya Nui world boxing champion super series champion unified champion he didn't have a massive amateur experience I don't think you do have to have a massive amateur experience don't get me wrong it does give you some fundamentals I learnt a lot as a young amateur sparring like the pros and stuff like that bloody hell and I think what you get there you get a little bit of resilience things like that you know you get a strong mindset but um I don't think if you don't have that amateur background then you don't have to worry too much about it because so like I said a lot of them telling amateurs are a lot better than me better footwork faster, stronger and they haven't made it in the pros when I've been able to go on throughout the years developing myself taking myself away and learning my trade that way do you think you've matured a lot quicker at 29 to be and established world class feet on there instead of the people who have been through the amateurs first yeah definitely listen to the way I had a long route getting up to to the world level, James had a long route so you know 18 having me pro fight for about two years I were learning my trade and like a lot of people have stuck at my record and they see that there's not a lot of knockouts on that record and the reason being is um a lot of my fights were against tough tough you know like journeymen and prospects so you see a lot of fighters like you might have someone who's just turned pro has had a decorated amateur background he's got sponsors coming out of his arse all he's sat in over Eddie and he's talking this is the fucking bees knees this man here this is the bees knees and he's got videographers with him he's got like a verified tick on social media and he's getting thrown into these fights and he's blasting out these like Eastern Europeans or coming over a pair of deer as soon as he gets into a proper fight a few years down the line because he gets thrashed out he gets found out and that's what happens to a lot of these fighters whereas me I've come from a long way around so I had two fights against like reasonable journeymen who just kind of show you the ropes but then my third fight was against another lad from Leeds prospector who like wanna know himself then my fourth fight was against a geezer who were 29 aged 29 with his first pro fight he'd brought a few fans so these are fights were competitive and we're only four rounders but at the same time I wouldn't have been gifted the win I wouldn't have gifted like knockout wins I would have never written I still had a bit of a tough fight in front of me and I would have fucking bought it 18 James you know what I mean I'd have had an air on my knuckle never mind body physique you know what I mean these guys were they were fit guys and pro boxing a lot of things can happen where you're in close range and elbows can go in, aids can go in and referee will just let it play out especially when you're on undercards you haven't got the pressure of the TV cameras or behind closed not behind closed doors in smaller leisure centres you know you're having a little scrap and elbows can like I say it's physical and I would try to wrestle with these manyer you know what I mean and I learned a lot through that every fight I'd done in the early stages I'd learned a lot and by the time I'd come to my first title a few years down the line I was seasoned you know I'd done the rounds, I'd had fights where you know I'd done me six rounders I'd done me four rounders, I'd done them at a high pace as well the next fight after that is ten rounder for the championship fight but I would you know two and a half years down the line as a pro I'd had eleven or so fights over people's backyards and I was seasoned and I'm ready for that How was it at your first 15 fights we'll talk join later obviously the mass following just over in Britain now you've got mega following because of some of the fights you've had over the last couple of years but now you've got a massive backing from Leeds when did that start for you how many fights deep? Listen I've always been obsessed about where I come from as a young kid I was always obsessed with Leeds I used to pick up the boxing news which is for those who don't know it's like it's biggest publication in Britain for boxing it's been going since 1999 I think so it's widely known as a boxing news and I used to pick it up and go to amateur section and always see lads from Manchester, Sheffield, Liverpool London always get a shout out but never lads from Leeds and I always used to wonder used to watch boxing with me old fella on chips cable box and wonder why is there never fighters from Leeds and it's always Liverpool, Manchester, London and I was just to think to myself if I ever turn pro then I want to try put Leeds on the map around the time of 11 or 12 when I used to say things like that Leeds were fucking champions of Europe or the giants of Europe in terms of the football side so that would always it wanted to have a big not a big following I just wanted to establish Leeds as a decent boxing city you know what I mean if I could get a fight a British title fight and the sky cameras are coming to Leeds in happy days so as a young lad I understood the game I understood what it was all about you know you have to get people to come along and to support you and things like that I never thought it would get to the stage where I'm fucking selling out to readers and things like that but wow he said yeah but it was a slow slow process James you know I used to go about to pubs all round Leeds so I had a base of good pals, lads off at a state lads who had met from school lads who I've worked through with but I used to take myself out and meet other people after football and meet them out on the road meet them after matches and just go along you know he's like a bit of boxing there I fucking love boxing there I used to love watching Nigel Ben and fucking Chris Eubank back in day so listen I'm trying to hear listen that's me there showing little clips on my phone and stuff all I'm trying to do mate is fucking put city on my pay listen I'll come along to your next fight and it seems to just snowball from there you know people sometimes think from outside or Josh one and he's got that fucking he's got all them Leeds fans behind him because he's a Leeds United fan in his associated club but he won't always like that fucking all my pals are sitting cornering over there I remember times when me and him were fucking going around city centre you know putting flyers up in kebab takeaways in the carry houses and handing them out at shopping centres like white road shopping centre putting flyers on fucking cars from general manager listen we're going to find you if you keep doing this it seems illegal firing and blah blah blah but you know that's what you have to do what I was doing is putting myself about getting building relationships with people and some of these people I've met from out of the years I can call very very good friends now some of them like family but they've been on my journey for a long time cos what had happened is they'd come watch me fight I've had a good night watching that Josh let me know next time I'll come along and then they tell his mate then he tells his mate it kind of snowball by the time I come to my first out fight I had a decent crowd go with me so we're down to Dudley in the English title and then by the time I come back to Leeds I fought Leeds Town all off about 700 there that night so it took a while to get going but it was all worth putting in the mad I was because like I said too early I was working as a dental technician as well so when I left school it was like 2 years before I turned pro and I didn't know what the fuck I wanted to do like a lot of kids don't know what to do my school want the best of schools and career offices like they just wanted to get you out of fucking school as quick as possible seeing the lads out of group with lights that are doing this down that I grew up around people knocking fucking drugs out and stuff like that and they never interested me they never interested me some of my best pals at the time were doing it and I just think I won't ask about it they were my best pals and they were taking it they were knocking it out but that kind of lifestyle I just thought there's more to it here like I said I had a wise head on young shoulders people used to say to me as a young kid after I had my mature fights they used to come out and say hey keep doing what you're doing keep doing what you're doing and I'd hear it constantly working men's clubs up and down country keep doing what you're doing fucking if I could have my time again I'd have carried on doing what I'm doing I wish I had carried on playing football whatever it is everyone seemed to have this bit of regret of not putting their time and energy as a youngster into what they used to do fucking I got drawn into this to pick up the pines in working men's club fucking out there you've got to be careful with these pines to the Mrs's you've got to be careful with all your women they always keep saying this I've heard it again tonight they always keep saying to me listen it goes quick you won't realise now because you're only young but when you get older as soon as you get past 21 you'll realise how fast life goes opportunities very very thin there's only a few opportunities and you've got to fucking take them whilst they're there so like I say, as a young kid I kind of did that scale you? seeing them their dreams and ambitions just taking away drinking it away did that kind of give you the inspiration to I just wanted to bet on that I just wanted to bet on that because like you had lads on the state who thought they were bigger than what they are because they had an above it was always quite handy to talk at a state so that lad thought they were fucking base names didn't have to talk to anybody in groups sometimes you're just in a product in your environment aren't you and you grew up with them people so you grew up in a state you hang about with people if you're a state quickly realise that this is not what I want to be you can't hear pubs and people say I could have been a contender that's what I mean but they already know that shit you know it went wrong so why not utilise that then to now do something with more productive with your life and learn from those mistakes there's not too many people just give up because they could have been something in their teens or early 20s and then they forget that they're still alive they can still do something with that life you hear that all the time but you're worrying a million for people to go I'm not going to be here I know what to do with this life this is it and I didn't realise at the time that I had something maybe different than the most I thought everyone had a mission I thought everyone wanted to be better than themselves I used to look at fucking things like 10 years time this will be this will be a lot different I would have fucking weird kid me James when I was 6 or 7 years old I just think to myself why the fuck are we here I've always been a family man I've always been close with my brothers and my sister I still am now I had a different outlook on other people even though I hung about with the same people I could see down the line I got into 16 maybe I could just do this over for a few years and then turn pro because if you're not turning pro with as a massive ticket seller you first fight or you haven't got sponsors coming out of your backside then it cost you it cost you to go training it cost you to get your equipment it cost you to get your medicals and things like that and I couldn't just rely on my parents and stuff like that so I got a job as a dental technician and it turned out I was just going to be a bit of an assistant in the lab just cleaning up and something like that at 17 I started working as dental technician realised that I could make myself working plenty of no gum shields and that way I just got hooked in that and people who don't know what dental technician is basically because I fucking didn't know when I was applying for it basically if you get your tooth knocked out you got your dentist to take an impression to send it away the maker model of that and then that's when I worked in a lab and fucking just you'd make like a gold crown with veneers and stuff like that whitening trays and then we'd send them back to the dentist so that's what I did, worked in a lab and after a month then Gaffer said listen you look like you've got a bit of an eye to this you know, quite academic at school and not so much of a daff lad I could pick it up quite quickly he said listen if you want to go forward into it you need to you need to be qualified into it so I ended up being four years at Leeds University as well as turning pro at the same time so listen them times as a young pro fucking hell James the hardest times of my life so what I talk about now and the big facts I'm building for it's a luxury because I get to train fucking full time and stuff like that and I've got a team around me but them times, especially when you're you're just a young lad at 21 years old and I'm fucking getting up going for the run getting home, shower going to work coming home I'm stuck in rush hour traffic fucking getting to gym was that a decision that you made of just give up boxing to go nearly because it was like I was earning money there I was earning money as a dental technician and obviously you could go iron and iron I wanted to be better than everyone else I wanted to be a fucking and I wanted to be good at my job and I was starting to progress in the lab doing better and better and you know as a professional as a young professional you're getting £1,000 a fight if you get a TV slot you might get £1,800 but you've still got to pay percentages away in what a trading camp costs and really and hopefully it's not too much when you take away cramps and then you've got like you've got medical bills at the end of the year you've got a licence fee that costs like £2,000 a year so if you haven't put away from that then you're fucking you're not earning much you're not earning much and listen there were times like a young 18, 19, 20 year old where I'm thinking fucking hell from a young kid I never used to drink at house parties I never used to drink, I never had to drag a sig when all lads were passing a spliff around I never bothered with that now I'm 18 all my mates are going out partying they're all going to town 19, 20, 21 going to these different things and I'm seeing on fucking social media that they're doing all these things and fucking I what am I doing this for and what I'm doing is working and training and you can't see like obviously down the line you've got and goals and ambition I wanted to win a British title but sometimes it becomes difficult and it is lonely mate I met my now missies, my now wife I met her and we were trying to have a relationship and it was difficult, I mean she worked as a chef as well but like six days in a week we'll be training and work and then on my day off I'd be studying for university I'll be trying to go around Leeds selling myself you know try and build a fan base and things like that it was just to say to myself fucking hell it'll be worth it, it'll be worth it it'll be worth it, all these ad miles it'll be worth it you know time and energy it'll be worth it and down the line it did it did turn out to be okay but at the time fucking I think most definitely I used to think to myself someone's got to give you know just struggling struggling to get into the gym tired coming away, coming to work next morning with fucking black eyesaw, body, ribsaw cos you're putting in the hard miles whether it's sparring or circuits or whatever and then you're going to university on one day a week and fucking falling asleep in lectures, you know, blagging through assignments and things like that and it's like how long can this go and then it would have turning point I picked up one of my pals, I was selling tickets to one of my fights, one of my school pals and it were about three weeks before the fight so I'm dropping tickets off and they said how are you doing I said yeah not so bad mate, I'm not so bad so you ready for it, I said yeah yeah I'm training hard mate, just a bit tired listen we're all fucking proud of you so yeah yeah whatever we're looking forward to this party anyway I think someone's big 21st birthday and he said yeah yeah fucking same old though, same old we should be good though, everyone's going to be there everyone's going to be off, have a good time and that and tell them all asking for them, tell them I said hello on that Josh listen don't be fucking bothered about that don't be bothered about it, anyone of us would give up what we're doing right now to be in your fucking position he said let's look at me I should have been playing football at an eye level but you know it's been same old since 18 year old getting pissed every weekend, it's like same faces he said everyone's proud of you mate and I tell you what, they give me a fucking kick up at their ass when I'm most needed it because you're thinking why are you doing this why you don't seem to be getting any fucking closer to your end goal but every day you weren't drinking or smoking no no no was taking you closer to your goal but you don't realise at that time sometimes you need that outside influence to remind you of that and that would lad at my own age to anyone you had old saying look at you fucking doing it mate you're going places keep at it well proud of you so I was able to graduate from university after that it just gave me that fucking bit of energy to get over the get over the finishing line plus you had something to fall back on his wheel me old fella always used to say that cos I'd gone so far in the job like listen if it doesn't work out you've got to be realistic if it doesn't work out then you've always got that and about the time I come from my first title I graduated from uni I was still working five days a week but that was it then and the fan base had really started to grow and then within that little period from 2013 things really started to fast track it started to grow really quick from there so all the hard miles all them sacrifices all them days I've done long days putting time and effort in travelling about all of almost falling asleep we're all worth it and I think sometimes that's what happens you have to put in them hard miles and that ending just got to go somewhere in this universe that ending just got to go somewhere and eventually it'll come back around to reward you and I went down to Dudley a box for English title I got the column on five weeks notice now at the time I'd been pro two and a half years I'd been chomping a bit I had a really fun next stage I had some good fights I'd box some good prospects I had a couple of showings on sky and the fan base was starting to grow I got a call at five weeks notice to go down to Dudley took an army of 90-odd nut cases down there boxed in a venue called the venue I called Chris Mail down in Dudley about 1200 people in there and you know 1100 were his fans rest of them were mine and fucking closed environment intimidating it were boy vs man I was left to show you some pictures after on scales I don't know how he made fucking nine stone he had biceps on biceps I was like scrolling skinny and into his backyard and it was my first time around fight and it was just a fight it was just that talk so we knocked seven bells out of each other but I won that thinking I've done it I felt like an absolute god going into work on the following Monday champs here we'll buy you lunch today we'll buy you lunch and that was it but my next fight lead to town hall 700 people had turned up word social media were really starting to grow things like Facebook put pictures and videos up this were around 14 fights in things were really starting to grow people were starting to tell people I was starting to get little interviews with local newspapers and things like that and the fan base were really starting to get bigger and bigger so I had lead to town hall I had a defence there because I felt like I was called James Bate then I had another one The Pavilion at Ellen Road but I've still got my goal on winning the British title I've not set myself too far in front that British title is still there but I won it one below that and then I got a call walking back to the change rooms after my fight my 14th fight against Ian Bailey and my manager said I was your hands I said alright they're all good I feel good you're feeling alright yeah I feel really good he said right nice one because we've just had a call off Eddie you've got opportunity to fight for a Commonwealth title in five weeks time over and all do you want it I said fucking hell wow never had me eyeset on that bell he's up there a fucking payday biggest payday I was going to get so most definitely let's have it and that's when things really started to spiral fucking five weeks later and I'm sat on top table with with Eddie, Luke Campbell, Tommy Carl, Samir and I got that fight as an opponent I wasn't meant to be there I remember Eddie introducing top table Eddie's got a gift at gab good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the old city town hall let me introduce you to the top table now to my fire left we've got Josh Worring down here English champion got a bit of following from Leeds decent prospect so my fire right is opponent now when I talk about talent this man oozes it Samir Minimni he's going to put all onto the map I remember sat there thinking you fucking wanker you fucking wanker let's see what happens tomorrow I remember being there in all 150 people over there to support us fucking stood there people hanging off at barriers you date a Leeds cunt you're going to get a fucking hiding I remember stood there nervous as fuck because I know that Samir was a very good fighter like I say very very nervous but we'll see what happens in there we'll see what happens in there we'll see what happens and the sun is going there like fucking it would a tough tough fight but just strong mindset we were able to go through the trenches and stopped he got me first stop 15 fights in Commonwealth champion and yeah things went for it I know you're the head that we've seen that not really because he didn't know too much about me you know like I said to you James I want a name I come from the small halls so I'll just Josh fucking hell at that time 14-0 no knockouts on record a bit of a fan base but that's it really I don't fucking I didn't talk shit on social media I just went down the road with my pals I went to work and that was it How did you do these entries then after the next fight? I think a few of my pals went up to him after after the fight you need to be fucking signing so I got an opportunity to to fight in Manchester and the Scott Quig Scott Quig were fighting on the main event and John Murray were fighting Anthony Crawler on that one which were probably a bad idea because I'm a big city fan and Anthony Crawler is a Man United fan I'm a big Leeds fan top top bloke and in that arena that night you had myself you had fighters from Leicester down there fighters from London so they're bringing fans from all over plus Man City and Man United fans and then 700 of my Leeds fans had gone over and they were just the absolute carnage after I had boxed but I boxed them on the road I got given an opportunity I will give you another shot and they were like me they were like me trial, they were like me let's see how you go on here boxed Rindle I stopped him in seven and eight rounds retired a month's stool which would have been a bit crazy really because going into that fight I was thinking fucking Rindle Monroe and we were going up watching him on telly going over to Japan and fighting for world titles he had been in some absolute bandstormers and he used to set a crazy crazy pace and he used to think to himself fucking that's Rindle Monroe but the next minute I've stopped him people are talking on social media social media Eddie Eddie is like speaking very highly of me this kid is going some way he's got a fan base, he's got an exciting style go back to change rooms Barry Urn comes in, does a bit of a jig fucking Joshy boy Joshy boy we're going to Leeds we're going to Leeds son we're going to Leeds British child five weeks out wow fucking hell wow this is what I've dreamed of this is what I've dreamed of but then Mimeo was sitting corner there he's come in and said fucking hell look fucking hell British child we're going to be fighting for British child he went fucking hell never mind that he says all boys have gone he says what do you mean all boys have gone he says it's just kicked off bad styling there it's like WWF it's come out there are just patches of empty seats some of my fans have kicked off with other than whatever but that one didn't then, that one more or less had kind of put me foot in the door had kind of put me foot in the door that was on my way to achieving my dream you know I started earning some good prices in last two fights last bunks most of them up the wall but fucking I was starting to do alright starting to build a bit of a fan base more or less got me foot in with my room in terms of signing contracts and that there, now it would always been a dream of mine to fight at the Leeds Arena because I drove past it many many years I used to come over, I used to work in Adel North Leeds and I lived in East Leeds grew up on York Road near Gippton and Wybeck Eastern Park though for those who were from Leeds shit all there he is put some good people from down there I used to drive past Leeds Arena and see it get constructed and think wow I'd love to fight there one day even if I just don't want to guard just for a bit of history to say I've done that take that box off they're all personal goals they've got to represent England as a kid so getting to fight there would be something to tell your kids about making memories of life so I remember then putting a little bit of a promo video of how it looked animation video rock concert said boxing fights that could be me you've got to picture me and get where I'm at there I'm a fucking like a scruffy dressed lad because I don't have too much I'm living in my Mrs's mum and dad's back bedroom two years prior to that I'm living in Caravan in my dad's back garden I'm driving a fucking bad face to centre when I used to call it my apartment that's how I got my Mrs I said I'll come back to my apartment they were fucking Caravan in my garden I said I'll live at 470 fair play after starting by you there she was impressed I kept her tidy inside me but I used to drive past that arena and think fucking I'll one day let me look back at car fucking car constantly on empty fuel but I had that vision I had that dream that one day I will fight there and make it happen and fucking all of a sudden for three years into my career fucking it's about to happen all of my chips I'm about to achieve the fucking goal of their set out to do graduated from university and now fucking doing all right in my job and now fucking hell I'm about to fight for British title I'm running five weeks time against a fellow called Martin Lindsay now I'd watched Martin Lindsay being in some terrific fights dead in my fuse out with left ducks fucking spin them around and they're going to sleep on way down thinking fuck this is going to be a tough fight other fighters around that time were the likes of John Simpson no, Martin Lindsay and the world Lee Selby they were the big names at the time and Lee Selby had had the British title and I think he'd moved on to European level and I got like I say I got Martin Lindsay absolutely shied myself before on that one because that would hit with the fucking goal the Lord Longstale belt and one of the oldest prizes in British sport never mind fucking Wimbledon and FAA cops that was one of the oldest usualistic fucking brilliant belt, beautiful belt and the same one at Lads as a young lad on my third fight Gary Sykes would won it down in a Lusfield I remember him coming back to the change room was fucking over his shoulder and looking at him he could have been a god right there all around him fucking hell that's all I want to do I want to have that feeling what he's feeling right there, I want to be a British champion crazy sure that actually I'm not sure that me, Karl Frampson, Tyson Fierdi and Gary Sykes, Tyrell Ners, all books on the same card yeah yeah I don't fucking know that we'll get to the stages we are now but anyway that's where we were at nervous as fuck for that one because I thought that's my goal did you ever get nervous before fights? yeah listen always just because I realised what could happen why is it like I said, why is it on young shoulders one punch could change fight know that people put your life on line know that people get knocked out in one punch these were serious fighters now I was just maturing I was 22 years old around that early 20s anyway still young mate still young and I'm going to these fights these are men, these are fucking solid men like I said some lads all went to school with they had beers at 15 fucking I talked like a little girl we've obviously dropped until I was 17 or something so you know I would have I would have boy fighting these men these tough tough men and fucking nervous as fuck I had like 3,000 there it was Wednesday night sky short headline in it and I remember even the Mrs and her Mrs Mam and Dad Mrs Mam and Dad saying to me we'll see you when you get home looking forward to seeing that belt Josh enjoy yourself, they're thinking it's a fucking given they're thinking it's a given I've still got a man in the opposite corner there who is going to try to take me head off and I've still got to go in there and be switched on and deliver a good performance to come home with that I've still got to fight in front I've still got 12 hard rounds in there I remember listening to radio and if you Eddie Irmore live from down at the leads arena at that time and he's saying there's a lot of pressure on Josh's shoulders right now he's got to come through this and if he doesn't his fans are like fucking at least someone's recognising that I've got a tough fighting man's and he want a tough tough fight I don't know it's cos I've done it in box 5 weeks before and I went straight into the training camp and I got on with it my man was just a tough tough man like eating him like fucking punching that wall it was just solid and when he hit me I felt like his shots were solid he's the only man in 30 fights so it was really really hurt me he caught me in 5th round with a body shot and he thought fucking good shot that then he caught me again with another good shot with the same place about fucking 10 seconds later and it completely took the wind out my sails now I watch it back and I don't look as hurt as what I fucking felt but inside mate fucking I'm gasping for breath anyone who's ever been winded it's not a nice feeling never mind doing it in front of thousands of people with pressure of fucking someone who just wants to hurt you 5th round I'm still moving about I've recovered a little bit cos I've always had a good fitness he's got me again with about 10 seconds to go I've gone back to the stool, sat down my dad's pulled me gum shield and I went how are you feeling lad folk dad folk he said listen you need to change your soap mate cos otherwise you're gonna fucking put it on you now but he gave me a bit of instruction said you've got a pin point in his body get it up at 6th round bang I catch him early it seems to body changes course at fight but fucking I left at fight it was the first time that I pissed blood after the fight I'll show you pictures after I'll show you pictures after but it's not a fucking tickling competition you've got internal organs around all these sensitive organs around your body all around this area around your rib cage up protected and stuff it's not a tickling competition we've got their eight ounce gloves on the fuck hole really people probably want to find out they're eight ounce gloves fuck hole in it 12 rounds you're batting fuck out with you it's gonna leave a bit of a mark but yeah I've done it the British champion he did fucking oh mate champion at world champion at world fucking hell unbelievable feeling bumping at summer poles outside outside Leeds Arena fucking hell all pissed up done it George Barth at the time Leeds United weren't doing too clever so a lot of lads a lot of football lads old followed me old followed me old like the boxing as well outside people are calling casuals but just because fucking they didn't have no one to follow from Leeds they've never made the presence or whatever now they've got someone of the Roan city they're following them so he's hard on, Josh wanting and he's hard on Leeds United doing shit we're behind Josh now he's giving us good glory days and that so yeah fucking absolutely buzzing I'm an hero to a lot of people and fucking I've seen some fights that was fantastic Josh I'm starting to get a bit of money behind me so I can go and get myself a house deposit in that same time I go down to Matchroom and assign the first contracts with Eddie the fight with Leeds Selby starting to build from early on in 2014 we were there at Matchroom BBQ like the likes of AJ, Kellbrooke Kevin Mitchell, Dan and Mark were all there at the time all the big names yeah now I'm coming down there and Leeds Selby were there I'll go with your gear on and she'll tell me that and Sky had us go do a little bit of a head to head and they said well you have a face up and they went I have a fucking face up I didn't feel like we had no animosity back then do you know what I mean but they planted the seed there I think Eddie had wanted us to fight at some stage down the line and that's when all that started to build up so that took four years to get that fight that took four years it took four years what happened with Eddie then you left Eddie to go with Frank one yeah so what had happened from there is you know fucking I'm British champion now you win British title you have three defences and you get to keep that for life the belt's worth about 15, 16 grand as itself so fucking hell when I'm old and retired then I can flog that book down and crafted not one of them is the same so that was my goal I'll fucking win it out right now I've won it now but I've gone back to changeums and that's it I never felt I've done it I've ticked a box and I'm fucking buzzing and you know people are talking about you in good ways but I didn't feel satisfied James you know what I mean what else is next, next minute I get a shot at the European knocked that guy out all of a sudden I've gone from fighting in fucking small religious centre shows like going about leads in my little car after work fucking after training on my days off going round to pubs my pals houses selling tickets all of a sudden I'm doing fucking interviews with all these big media companies newspapers I never fucking even heard of going from like small old little tiny articles in Yorkshire even in post and five minutes on local radio station to like to talk sport and like to say these massive broadsheets and I'm still working as a dental technician in these days after winning the European I'm going back to work on the following Monday and fucking delivery drivers are bringing materials to the lab hey I'm sure I've seen your face before where have I seen you I've seen you look like that boxed up weekend fuck off that one you know what you doing here is that this is my day job fuck off you should must be a millionaire and a few of my pals used to say it's a mad sport he's boxing you fucking headlining shows on a Saturday night but a lot of fucking you know it's probably only people who are featured on that channel probably can't even afford the sky subscription you know you see people on tv everyone instantly thinks that you're fucking millionaire which is far from it it was far from it you know and yeah we're starting to do alright we have to quit working everything else so I was still working so you have won in British European when you're still doing that I'm coming off British European champion you know and I'm fucking fucking aren't they just again wiser than on young shoulders realising that was that because you you still wanted something to fall back on completely that you didn't just go full steam ahead was that not even more tiring or haven't you got to work and train not only that I'd been wiser to people around us I've seen other lads get to my stage it earned some good pay days other boxers should have more or less paid the mortgage off have a nice car and drive but I've spunked it up on a fancy watch some nice holidays treating all pals out on a night out and all of a sudden they've got a pot to piss in they've lost one fight all of a sudden they're struggling to get into title fights again it's one of them things one way one fight going the wrong way especially in the early stages of your career can change you now when I were coming through as a pro Eddie were just starting to make waves he wanted as big as what he is now of course my drum's always been about because we're bad at your own but you had your promoters with likes of Frank Maloney now Kelly Maloney Frank won and we're doing little bits and bats with the Tantyr and other channels but he wanted as big as what it is now I'll fight on some shows with ledger centres and you'd have like a British title as the main event and then further down the line we'd just be like a cheap support now boxing fans are spoiled you've got like world title fights multiple British title fights on the card and all these names and the money wasn't as good as what it is now sponsors weren't as involved as what they are now now you've got out old names of sponsors getting involved with boxing you didn't have that back then and that was only like 5-6 years ago James you know what I mean and I always used to think like I don't want to fucking quit my job and get beaten a fight and then fucking hell that's it another thing as well it took me mind of things I won't constantly boxing I just got back to the job and I just had a focus then from that European stage 2014-2015 things went very very quickly and I won't prepare for how quickly they went again all of a sudden like I say odd persons recognising me in streets now I'm going to the local supermarket and fucking everyone's recognising me people are recognising me on social media people are talking to me people I don't know I'm having a fucking static I thought hey can I have 5 minutes maybe see 5 live on a speech and it's crazy and then I've gone from maybe 500 people watching me in a leisure centre then fucking 700 people watching me in Leeds Town Hall to unboxing Leeds Arena fucking I've got 10,000 there Finlay Jones is doing ring walk behind me fucking I'm the next Ricky Atten within like 12 months just one in British European Commonwealth Champion making waves is the most exciting one of the biggest prospects to run away with and that was it fucking everything just like fast forward and I can say I won't prepare for it and I had a fight against a fella called Dennis Tabaron WBC International fight title walked out there far too giddy far too giddy for what I was I kind of started to believe my own hype fucking lose focus I bet yeah a little bit I was doing so much media I would try to respond to everybody on social media on my phone I would argue with folk because you know fucking all of a sudden people people are patting your back like when I got to Rendle stage when I'm fighting Rendle people are patting your back nice one Josh well done someone has just started getting to a stage where he's becoming a big name nationwide it's only there in that position because there's a fucking ticket seller if you want a ticket seller then it won't be in that position where the creator has been before and you know yeah exactly yeah I can't punch you I fucking shit blah blah blah so I'm there fucking spending me times arguing with all these people and I'm wanting to prove all these people that I am that person I can be that big person and I've got this guy in front of me Filipino Dennis Tabaron and I've gone out there and Gameplan's gone out the window Gameplan's gone completely out the window for the first four round I'm just fucking chasing him around just trying to throw big punches now my last three fights and I'll stop Rendle on my row beat my own Lindsay I knocked out a fellow European type of David Dele I went up to Berlin I stopped to a fellow in five rounds so I'm thinking I'm on a fucking right role here I'm starting to really get my man's strength really starting to sit on my punches always known that I could have a bit of a scrap in the gym because as an amateur throughout my early pro career I used to spar with like British champions and lads that were higher level than me fucking the last bit of my 21st birthday in a 12 foot ring sparring with Carl Johansson who was a super featherweight champion who had a devastating knockout power box likes of Ricky Burns beat Ricky Burns, had him on his backside a few times Michael Gomez so I'd mixed with these decent killer bit of people I knew I won't make that fucking out of glass so I knew I could stand and fight when I needed to spar but I was unable like I said to you earlier I knew that one punch could change a fight so my thinking always used to be just win the fight and then obviously as you win the fight it opens doors to other things I was seeing my pay packet getting bigger my profile getting bigger so just win the fight if you're doing alright just win it just see it out but because of all this hype what was going on around me I just wanted to smash it so I'm chasing these gigs around bang by half way through I'm up on everybody's cards on the judges' cards but he didn't want to know he just wants to see it final bell I'm exhausted fucking physically and mentally because I'm fucking frustrated because he's just backpedaling he's not trying to engage in a fight he's not trying to win it he just wants to see it final bell and I'm running forward fucking wild but it's taking a lot of energy out of me because I'm not setting up punches I'm just fucking putting absolutely everything to every punch by 12th round fucking all judges score cards but I'm fucked I'm absolutely fucked and then I get roasted on social media absolutely roasted by pundits by excitedry just wanting to be on world level not on that performance he needs to do a lot better I just don't think he's got it and I think the next few fights will be shown and all of a sudden fucking old James I didn't know how to deal with that like you said before you know I didn't fucking know how to talk to these people and how to respond to that how are you doing these interviews do you think you found your limit Josh what the fuck do you say to that no no I'm just in a bad day office and they're trying to catch you out in certain interviews all of a sudden I'm fucking going back to my hotel room and fucking Josh running what a cunt he is fucking embalasment and I'm like I can't fucking handle all this shit you know what I'm used to people coming up to you in the street and like if they call you a cunt and you're like fucking what mate you've got people you've never met in your life calling you a dissant so you're responding and like fucking I can't handle it so I've took myself away, went to one all the day mate Mrs had a nice holiday I've come back, I'm thinking it's all be forgot about any time I put a tweet out or a post out it's still there, bam people are aiming at me you think fucking hell now you know they stay in age, social media is fucking to those older listeners I won't probably think what's it all about you can just ignore it but social media is a big platform you can see your fans and to promote yourself so you can't help not see that you used to read that a lot and I remember thinking fucking hell so I went over to the manager and started a meeting out with Ricky Atten and we sat down with Ricky like fucking hell Ricky you were similar to myself you know I come through fucking small holes and all that you built a big following how did you cope with fucking all the pressure of crates and that it was a little bit different from my day he said you know we just had the papers and journals and you'd be able to speak to them just on phone but he said listen I still get it now so I was a bit surprised by that I said what do you mean Ricky he said fucking hell you're an household legend how do you still get shit on social media everyone loves you he said listen Josh it gets the fucking centre free I might put a tweet out about Man City he says people turn around and say to me you should have slit your face you risked what you had to check your fat bastard he says I always get it you know fucking bastard but why the fuck do you give why do you give so much attention and why do you give a fuck about what Dave the fucking spark he says oh can't get a fuck off his misses I wouldn't do anything in his life why are you getting worked up about that and I kind of thought I started looking at that from a different light like he's right why am I getting so worked up about these fucking people and I kind of just started working up from there building a bit of thicker skin seeing it for what it is just there you know fucking messages on the screen and the next few fights had worked on really keeping the concentration and I pulled out some very very big performances from there Joe Brunkner which I'm really proud about because people were saying after that performance against Tubron Brunkner's going to walk through him and these were fights what were like fringe world title fights after that had a fighter called Isashiyama Gasa he were ranks like top 3 in all world governing bodies at the time and I could win against him and the fight against Lisa we were really starting to build up from there on because I know that was 2018 that was fate of the year why did it take so long from the 2014 to the 2018 because we was going to go ahead in 2016 with Eddie as now I'd come out of ring against Isashiyama Gasa and Eddie was like I want to make this happen of course things had gone on very very quickly British Commonwealth European it was as though everyone expected like a lot sort of like we don't want to be messing about with these fringe level world titles I want to go straight into this fight with myself the rivalry had started happening people started talking a lot on twitter about the fight playing out scenarios and things me and him had had to build a little bit of a thing on social media like you were analysing Isashiyama Gasa fight and he was saying Lisa and I could write on back of a fucking postage stamp what Josh Warrington could do you know blah blah blah so do a little bit of needle stepping in from there now Eddie put an offer to us and around the time I had a date to get married and me and me all fellas sat down and he said listen I need your fucking head on this 100% lad he said what do you think I said dad fucking let's say it well title let's have it he said fucking I need your head completely on this one he said you're not going to be being instructed just listen ideally you know fucking it'd be alright if we could move the date so if we can change the date then that'd be better but if not then fucking we go ahead it's just to go we head forward there so Steve me dad's for me manager Steve Steve spoke already fucking garden at home cutting my grass fucking thorns going mental in my pocket lads like that fucking Sky Sports News on Josh I've run in fucking put Sky Sports News in other news boxing now when Josh Warrington has rejected the fight with Lee Selby he's turned down the fight and offer was made by Promote Radio and I'm thinking fuck me what's all this about so I'm ringing Steve fucking else have you seen Sky Sports News? yeah I'm trying to get older ready now did put it to Selby Selby had said no it's being offered that opportunity if you don't want it then you fuck it it's not having it all of a sudden it's been leaked to news I don't want the fight so I'm thinking fucking hell and I'm getting stick on social media getting your fucking bottle of job you don't want it and it was all we went back with Eddie and said can you try and negotiate if I end it here he tried to negotiate it this was like in June time he tried to negotiate it for like October November and then it carried on and no one happening and he couldn't get out couldn't seem to get a deal with Selby so we come to end of our contract as well and my dad had been speaking to Frank Warren and he just signed a contract with BT now I didn't want to change to be honest with you because I was happy with where was that and I knew that Eddie might be able to get some up but Frank was offering good money and he was saying listen well I'll make sure that happens I'll do everything I can to make that happen so in that time it gave me a bit of time out the ring I had an apparition on me of all I needed doing How did that affect you being a loving one foot? You know what it's probably a blessing in disguise James because I needed it I'd been fucking boxing on stop with like most of two or three weeks off in between I'd go and have a pint with pals like two or three weeks after but after that I'd want to be back in gym so it would probably the longest time I had off and anything fucking hell I matured puppies into a man you know what I mean really coming to my shape and everything there and it was good it was rest I needed I got an elbow apparition as well so I'm 25 at the time signed with Frank Warren he's just signed with BT so things are starting to move I come straight into the fight with Keiko Martinez tough tough fight but they were trying to get me to fight now I didn't want that I'm thinking if we're going to fight fucking myself I can't be going into steady fights where I'm blowing someone out of water I need to have a real real tough fight so Keiko Martinez 11 month out straight in with him former world champion and it went on to win a European title and fight for the world title again after me tough tough fight straight back in perfect he perforated me a drums bruised me ribs had fucking busted me and in three rounds of that but I got through it the final eliminator against Dennis Cilan and I won that fucking nervous as fuck before that one probably the most nervous I've been before the fight because I've been saying for a long long time James that I'm going to win world title and I'm going to win world title since Eddie started building it up since the talk of me and Lee going together that's when I started to believe it that's when I started to see it like before I used to say I'm going to fight at Leeds Arena that way I set out the fucking goal of fighting for world title Eddie started building up this thing it's going to be at Ellen Road because my fan base were getting bigger and bigger every time and the people were starting to stop me in street when you're fighting at Ellen Road little old ladies when you're fighting at Ellen Road is it going to happen is it going to happen are we having that Ellen Road one well I'm fighting at arena soon ah fuck that one we'll come to one at Ellen Road when it happens so people were all excited for me it's been a long long time and this were eliminated so win that one I'm in a fucking solid spot there I'm ranked number one and the fight is going to happen but at the same time my missies were pregnant and I just felt like fucking hell Lucy's fighting I'm going to be the nearly man the man who almost fought for a world title the man who did everything but guess that I heard a fight for a world title and it didn't happen I was nervous there being and for five rounds my legs were like jelly fucking I just couldn't keep me composure and then settled into it and knocked him out in tenth round and that was it then I felt like everything I've ever done up to McLeod to come to that moment that next fight and it was a case of now that's ultimately a bauble fucking hell a world title fight I never thought when I first started that I'd ever win a world title the fucking biggest bauble in the fucking world man the unbelievable world title it's like four years before that my missies bought me tickets to go watch Foch Groves won the first one in Manchester Arena and I remember thinking wow fucking hell I'd love to be in a big occasion like this and all of a sudden I'm having my own big occasion at a football stadium at Ellyn Road never good enough to play football but that was my time to fucking walk out the tunnel at Ellyn Road where did you get hope it was going to be at Ellyn Road it started to build it up so it was back again this would be the first one it started to build it up and then Frank had said I'm going to make it happen and it nearly didn't because negotiations were taking a long time to get over the road and me and my manager Steve were heading down to London and I had this fucking this was started in 2018 I had a message come through from one of my media team from Frank's office and he said this is artwork for poster and it said fucking it was the same date but Leeds Arena and I replied back to him saying fucking we're going back down and speak to Frank now to try and negotiate this just don't put that out just hold out for it now or so so Frank could obviously give him green light to just fuck it we're going to go to Arena we can't make a deal with Ellyn Road we go down and had a meeting with Frank and people from my side had a meeting with Leeds and we managed to get it over the line but it nearly didn't happen for sale be okay to agree to go to Ellyn Road he didn't mind because he got the A side of the coin he got the A side of the pay packet and to be honest with you it was biggest platform that he got to box on because he wanted massive tickets so he didn't have a big profile so to fighting in our doorstep even if you are in the way corner and the crowd are against you he's still someone to put on your CV and it's an unbelievable acclade to do because obviously when we speak it now it's like you doubt yourself before your fights even though British champion, Commonwealth champion European champion and now going for a world title undefeated as well do you think that helps you when you think okay I'm underdog here because before the sale we fight you were massive underdog massive underdog even though all the fights, some class fights that you've been in some fucking tough old slogs why were you so underrated during that fight undefeated again a lot of people have just seen me as a ticket seller owning that position they took away everything that we've achieved so far they took away English, British, Commonwealth international and because my knockout ratio weren't so good they took away the names that I'd beat they were like a fucking fringe level world opponents fellas who could have boxed for world titles in the run right and no one had argued against that they could have boxed for a world title and just didn't get the shot it's actually Emma Gassar who had boxed in 2016 their manager had pleaded with it let us fight Lee Selby to know if beat Josh and you can fight him in his own right he should have been there because he was ranked top 3 I beat him and I never got the credit I just never seemed to get the credit that's because I'm associated with Leeds United or whatever and so many people don't like Leeds I don't know maybe because I don't fucking talk as much shit I don't know Do you just let your boxing do the talking? I'm only starting to realise now that it is a show people do like a slagging off at fucking press conferences people do like people chucking tables I don't think you should ever change Look how far you've got to being just you I think I could sleep at night being honest I've always realised what goes into this game being the box round the box in a long time I know that fucking that's your lads have grown up in 70s and 80s when they have a scrap on the street and they used to be at Shakehand that's how we're doing it that's where we're sorting out business so yeah you can say whatever before but I've got to be true to myself because this pal is a normie and most of the people who were in stands have had a conversation where they know that I might have thought I like to speak to then I'm turning up to press conferences acting like a wanker what's Josh about is change you know what I mean so I've always been true to myself as well but yeah the biggest fight of my career and the reason I would always have that I wouldn't say a bit of doubt just a bit uncertainty I wasn't going too confident I always realised that fucking things could happen and that's in any way of life I think you've got to be prepared for fallback you've got to be prepared for setback in businesses or in sport if fucking things don't go right then don't worry about it now what I mean by that is alright I've got a perfect record unlimished but there's some hard fights I've had to go through really fucking dig deep in the mill there's like a series of times when I've come back to change rooms I've fucking trembling, perforated ears sore ribs, sore hands, fucking pissing blood you know people don't see that there's been times sparring sessions my last sparring session before the fight and I've got my ass I need to meet Jim fucking batted from pull up a post by some novice fighter and I'm thinking to myself fuck me I'm fighting in front of 10,000 people next week and I've just been batted by this fucking novice here what's wrong with me but it matters for the night it matters for that one night and that was it when I was building up to that fight I'd been talking about for so long and I believed I could be eating for so long everyone else doubted me I'd visualised it for so long visualising something that I'd done for for a very very long time and I didn't realise it was actually thinking some fucking mate all that shit I meant to all that stuff but I didn't realise it was a thing and I'd been doing that since I was a kid just started off from my dad my dad used to take me out to ledger centres when I was in championships shows and stuff and you know safe for instance I was boxing up in Newcastle or boxing in Liverpool or boxing down in London we drive all the way down there to fucking book a hotel now I used to think to myself coming off booking a hotel room like that way right now we'll just go for a ride we'll just go for a drive I want to get the route familiar so right okay whatever dad fucking also we'd go along to this hotel and then we'd go to venue wherever it was nine times that I tended to be in a ledger centre fucking South Shields ledger centre fucking Olympia in Liverpool venues like that then my dad's got a gift at Gabb so it'd be like we'd turn up next week can I just have a quick look round on that so next minute I'll be looking round fucking I reckon Josh this is where it rings you're going to be down here do you know where change homes are going to be love let's go have a little look you get yourself familiar with it don't feel alien to you and then I'd go home that week and I'd be fucking thinking about it in Bath thinking about it when I'm going for a run I could picture what the venue looked like and I didn't realise that with a thing until later on then fucking when I'm getting building up make it a year I'd picture fighting at Leeds Arena I'd picture fucking people walking up to it thinking fuck you know we're going to watch that Josh Warring tonight picture them being in pubs before having a pint before I'm walking up to arena and then all of a sudden it were there I used to go home with pals fucking sat in stands every now and again since it'd been talked about from like 2016 sat there just like watching game and I think going off in a little tangent at my own thinking I can't imagine fighting there and people would go for a piss at halftime and people like hey you'd be fighting here soon won't you Josh is it happening or what is it happening and you know I'd get adrenaline rush thinking about it then cos they'd all excited about it and then I'd think to myself fucking how would it be I know how would it look with a ring in the middle of the ring the last time they would have fought there were like 1992 Henry Wharton had boxed there'd never been a Leeds World Champion fucking I could make history for that city I'd be able to walk out to fucking thousands of people what an event it would be and then I'd play scenarios I would win the fight, how fucking things are happening where I'd get knocked down, where I'd get caught I'd prepared for all these different scenarios but nobody else outside a small group of people from Leeds and some of my best pals none of them nobody else could see it Josh is alright but I've got punch power he's just got that engine Leeds going to fucking box his head off I remember doing an article all they found out after the fight that a journal had fawned me up to see over boxing, pundits and fighters and trainers over the thought we were going to win and then when they published the column before the fight it was 7-6 to Leeds Selby but he'd asked 80 people and only fucking six people at the mate's people had picked me everyone else were fucking picking Selby and like I say it were 4-1 4-1 in the fucking Tours race like I've not done anything wrong James I'd only beaten everyone in front of me I'd beaten people over on beating records but I was still getting Tarnistar this is where the fucking outbubble gets found out and to be fair probably most relaxed I'd been before the fight, I was here at this hotel and I had my pals with me normally I'd stay in here fucking like a bit of a weirdo like this is it fucking I'm prepared to die in the ring I'm prepared to die in the ring it's all about just getting that win I don't care if the fucking pulling me out on a stretcher as long as I've got that fucking arm raised at the end of the fight that's all that matters to me obsessed with winning and I remember being in here and some of my pals are making for a fucking for a coke outside not a line of coke just a coke getting me excited there some of my pals are sat there saying Josh it's fucking buzzing in Leeds mate it's fucking buzzing it says listen no matter what happens tonight mate people will remember this it's already a buzzing in town now mate everyone's talking about every bar it's bouncing and it kind of made me feel like I want the boxer I was the one fucking going to watch it like I was one of them I was getting excited as well I was like fucking I'll look forward so I want nervous tomorrow excited and then I remember driving down one of my pals like fucking I'm meeting him talking about the times when we were fucking running down to watch games that are on the road fucking beating me overdraft getting a ticket to watch Leeds United and watching some of the games frustrated thinking why the fuck aren't they giving them all you know we've paid our add on money here to fucking watch them and they can't be ass man so I'm going to give absolute anything everything here and driving past it thinking fuck me wow look at all this thousands and thousands of people are here to watch bits like myself fighting and all turn open you know are fucking excited they were in there with me and fucking hell walked into that stadium that night I felt like a god mate I felt like an absolute god I'd been there the night before I'd visualised it I'd been in a ring I got on my fucking hands and knees a picture on my Instagram when I've done it I've come out of Ring War at Tunnel I've walked out of Ring got into Ring, fucking shadowboxed played scenarios out and I've fell on my knees fucking many a times and then it keeps on singing it again and then who? and then who? probably fucking fellas who were sitting at Ring thinking myself ready for that just seeing it 24 hours later with air pulling up gets into stadium massive buzz as I've got a footballs walking to the change rooms and you know you sat there there's messages over the football side before self every time and I thought to myself there's no fucking way I'm losing tonight, there's no way and walking to Ring even before that in change rooms normally I get myself worked up it's like there we go and this is everything you've worked out so everything you've sacrificed every punch you've taken, every black eye it all comes down to this fucking moment how bad is he running, how bad is he prepared to go through that is he really willing to fucking go through the pain barrier like I've got I'm gonna fucking make sure I keep on finding punches until my arms fucking hurt this is it, I'm willing to die in there and get myself really sucked up but I'm sat there I start talking to myself like I always do and the nerves won't, the adrenaline won't pumping as like it normally does I'm thinking that there's no fucking way know it just looks wrong here but it all comes to this moment it would have case if this is where I show everything what I'm about, there's no pointing just like I just win the fight it's like give you absolute everything gets the call, right, here we go here we go, it really is gonna fucking him standing with his knees like it's called boys fucking walked to ring, people around me fucking hell This is it Josh know this is my dad's like fucking here probably just son, proudly a pal we stood at door fucking 25,000 fucking I might not meet you again in my life, some of them, you know, I know very, very well. I've got my fucking Bay of Ero and Lucas Videbi, fucking doing ring walk with us, fucking Kaiser Chiefs are playing us out live, I predict to Riot, cos I walk out to I predict to Riot. This is all fucking Ghostbump moments, but I'm probably the coolest I've ever been in my career. You could have put a heart rate monitor on me and I was just fucking, I might as well have been dead. You know what I mean? I've watched it. What was that then? Unbelievable. My old fellow said to me, listen, take this in. Take this in. Cos I realise that these things don't come about that often, getting the ring, looking over to the cop. Like I say, I'm looking down at people at ringside, they're fucking there with me. They're with me. They're like, come on, that's fucking pounding, you can see it, they're that pounding from their chest. You know, they've been telling everyone, oh listen, Josh is going to fucking do that. They've got the fucking, their mum's words on me winning as well, you know. People are there with me ringside, do you know what I mean? They must have won us a equid that night. Oh, most definitely. And there's a lot of people who've done very well at that night. I'm looking over to the crowd. I'm thinking people are nervous for me, looking down at ringside. I'm looking down at my missus, she's fucking probably the most nervous she's ever been. I've told her that it's going to be a tough fight and there might be stages where it looks like I'm in a difficult position, but don't worry. I bring someone to the table, well I've never brought before, excuse me. And then I kind of take it all in, my dad says, listen, as soon as he fucking gets in the ring, you switch on. And that's what I did. I actually walked into the ring, bam, that's what it all splinkers were on, fucking. You came out flying. We might as well have been in a fucking phone box right there. When was the head cut? When did that? The head bang. That was in a few rounds in. That was a few rounds in. You worried that it could have been stopped? Never, never. It was just fucking, it was just what it is, just part of the fight. It was just part of the fight, but you know, he gets in the ring. Now everyone had talked about how big of a featherweight he is, how he fucking balloons up. Taking his gown off. I thought, fucking hell. Is this it? You know what I mean? I'd been sparring fucking like Welters and Light Middles prior to him. So having real, real tough sparring sessions. And when he got in the same way as me, thinking, listen, fucking hell, he's no big monster to everyone says he is. I'd also had a bit of a chat with Billy Graham, Ricky Atten's old trainer. Me and my old fella had gone on for asking him a bit of advice because he was, these were kind of similar fights, like when Ricky Atten box costed you. It was a bit of a defining fight. And Billy recalls a time when he walked into Manchester Arena, 20,000 people out with four o'clock in the morning for the American TV. And people were like, good luck tonight Billy. So it was fucking, that was the final night. You know what I mean? Everyone was saying to us fucking, good luck, we won't win it, we're massive underdogs. Walked in a changing and Ricky were fucking shadow boxing away and like, I could see that he was fucking up for it. He wanted that. And when he walked to ringing, blow moon fucking rung out, he said fucking, and we felt like fucking gods there. And I said to Ricky, as soon as we get in there, you fucking get to him. You show him who's fucking boss, you show him who's in this fight tonight. I want you to show him a bit of a fight. And I can't remember that. And my dad had said to me, listen, don't fucking daft. But you've got to put your stamp on him in this first fucking round. So we goes out, we goes out. Lee's like fucking likes a bit of distance, likes a bit of distance. And I'm getting there. Normally in the first round you get an idea of someone's punch power, someone's strength. I've come forward, he's thrown a right hand, caught it on the gloves, but instantly you get an idea of what this fucking toughest puncher I've been in with. With coming up with clinch, I fucking had a bit of a wrestle with him. Realised that he can't wrestle back or he's not fucking that strong either. Then I've caught him with a few of my own. I'm fainting shots and I'm making him react so I'm thinking to myself, this is my fight. I go back to corner, fucking buzzing. Sit down. And I was like, listen, silly cunt, calm yourself down. Cos he's always been, he's always in a way of words. I was always like, calm yourself down, not too giddy. But I'm thinking to myself, if I do everything right here, I'm going to make Lee's his first world champion here, I'm fucking, this fight's mine. You think that's the second round? This is the first round, going into the second round. I was going to make sure that I keep on the game plan. But don't do anything daft. Don't get too carried away. Again, same, same that. Going away a bit, a little bit cautious, a little bit cautious. But I'm catching my right hand. It goes on and I'm just fucking chased after him then. And that seemed to be just the stamp of the fight. Everything we've worked on, me and my dad throughout the years, you know, in the gym, any time the fight got mentioned, any time he'd boxed, he'd phone me up. Are you watching it? Yep, yep, he's doing exactly the same thing, isn't he? That left hand's down. Yep, yep, go down, go down your right hand side, pop that right hand up at the top. Yeah, I know dad, fucking hell. We're coming off and it was just easy. It was like, I could see the fucking punches, what are we doing? Like everything he would do now, we're pre-empting the next move while flying. Six round he gets caught, walking back to corner, all those things I'm just seeing. I'm not hearing everything else. I'm just seeing fucking there's a bit of commotion. I'm not even thinking that the fight could potentially be stopped. I'm just thinking I'm just going to tag it high, make it more and more worse. I really didn't really come out that moment until eight or nine rounds in where Frank Warren got off his seat and he comes up to the ropes and goes, Josh, Josh! I've turned round, he's going, fucking three rounds, you're going to be a world champion, son. And I'm like, fucking, and I was going, hey, don't listen to him, you ain't fucking listening to me. Keep to your boxing. And I went out and I'm thinking, I'm jumping around, I'm looking at Lee and he's coming at me, he's coming at me and for about 30 seconds I'm thinking, fucking hell, I'm going to be a world champion. He's sitting home, I'm facing the fight, I'm winning, he comes up to me on the scorecards and then I've switched myself back on. Bam, got the fight done. Someone's first fan on bells done. I've realised fucking how we are. When the final bell went and you put your hands up as if you've won it and then the cell bell looked as if you knew you'd lost it, but you got the split decision, what were you thinking? Waiting for the last call out for to say that you'd won, were you shiting that about? No, I just listened. Even with that call out, normally I don't know why he's fucking he's been winning, wouldn't he? You won the match. I thought he used- I spot the cat fucking, the cat doing to us. Even when they'd read that scorecard out to him, I was still expecting the next judge to give it to me. I just, I didn't- Confident? Yeah, just that confident. I mean, I'd just wait until I see what happens, but I've got first one, then they gave second one to Wim. I was just about a bit bemused by that, but then obviously the third one obviously won myself, but fucking just a little bit weird, really. I never really got nervous about it. Just, well, that's a bit strange, but I'm still going to get it anyway. Because somebody did say, I don't know if it was in your film, I watched last night, you need to relax because we've seen worse decisions being given. Yeah, your big man's a character, man. He's bang on the ball, man. So when you got it then, world champion, everything you've worked for, everything that you've studied and trained hard and all the sacrifice, even your misses going to all the fights, that's going to cause a lot of misery. Your dad's saying you're proud of you and you've done all that. When you eventually became world champion, dropped your knees, what were you thinking then? Done it. We've done it. We've fucking done it. It's all paid off. It's all paid off. We've done it, fucking. And then that moment lasted for about a few days and then it fucking goes, then it goes. It goes and I think that's something else that I've always, I've always strived to be better. I always strived to fucking, and I think that's one of my biggest attributes of what I've had. Like I've said many a time in interviews, not the fastest, strongest. I've had a good engine because I've realised it. Fucking there's no point being tired in that ring. You know, fucking 12 rounds is the load in the place to be. And if you're tired, you can't do fucking anything. You look up footballers when they're on pitch, when the first 10 minutes, the freshest fuck. When it starts, if it's been an end to end game and they're tired, start making mistakes. Same with boxing, the only difference is you're fucking getting hurt. You're getting punched to head. You're losing brain cells, you're getting knocked out. You know, these can change your life completely. We're seeing boxers dying in the ring. So I've always wanted to be fit. So I've always been fucking strong-minded in that set and worked hard. But this is when it all came down to all those who fucking never wrote me off. All them sacrifices, all them things what I've missed out on as a kid. I'm not just talking about fucking like being 18 and 21, like birthdays like that. I was on about this yesterday, actually, with my pals. Like, if I were to take away my boxing career, I would have to take it all my childhood because that shaped all my childhood. You know, I didn't go play football with my fucking on a Sunday, on a Sunday with my pals because I did the boxing. I didn't fucking, when they were starting to have a smoke or a drink or whatever, I didn't experiment with that because I did the boxing. Boxing shaped my life. It shaped my outlook on life for the better, obviously, but things would have changed and maybe going down different routes, like different doors would have been set out for me. I don't believe that we're giving this fucking, we're giving this road on life and we get to a certain point and we've got decisions to make and every time you fucking open one of them doors, it goes down another road and obviously influences can come in and they'll present a door and then you go through one of them. So that's where I look at it and so everything in my life had been from a kid, had been fucking centered around boxing, following the dental station I wouldn't have done that for. If I wanted boxing, I might have fucking got into building trade or I was gonna go into the fucking Royal Marines at 16 and I could toyed with that idea. So it all come down to that fight, to that moment, even though I'd superseded over goals and things and I should have been satisfied with that, being the fucking top of the tree world champion, fucking hell that you're making history now, you're making memories for everyone around you, you're making memories for your team, they're gonna elevate themselves off it and Mrs has sacrificed her uncle here as she was in the chef industry, she'd put that to one side. Now it's not just for me, it's for my kids as well. I've always wanted to do well for my dad who sacrificed a lot. Now my dad used to fucking work as a taxi driver, he used to come home from work, pick me up, drive down to Bansley because at one time I trained in Bansley being from Leedsbark, 30 miles away, he used to fucking take me up and down country and then obviously getting a penny for that. So that was said like if I'd superseded fucking getting me in a mortgage and a car and drive, then I'd want to pay his mortgage off, you know what I mean? I can't give him time back, that's one thing you fucking can't do but obviously we'll work, we give up a lot of our time to work to earn money so if I can pay his fucking mortgage off then we can relax a little bit more. My brothers have had to sacrifice a lot so all these opportunities come from being a world champion, things like meeting people like yourself, meeting fucking like a first name basis where Leeds United team or other sports people meet so they can meet them as well. All those strings to these things, one of my brothers is registered special needs so in life, I don't want him to fucking have to struggle. Now I don't want to, I'm not saying I want to spoil him, he's like Marcus, there's a car, yeah Marcus. But at the same time, he's going to fucking, he lives at home with my old fella at the minute but he's going to be part of his life when he's going to be on his fucking own and I don't want him to be working for a company where they might take piss out of him and stuff like that. I've always been protective, I've always been a family man. You know, I want to fucking make sure to look after him. I've got a sister, 17-year-old who's autistic. Now I'm going to be going to pick her up today. She's capturing her sentence together and like she's getting to that stage now where fucking after an extra year of years, where's her life going to go? She doesn't know what she wants to do because somebody her life at times she doesn't know what's going on around her. But I feel that's my responsibility. You know, I've always had that fucking lifting responsibility and now I say I want to build an empire. You know, I fucking, my mum and dad split up when they were, when they were like 13, 14 and for two years they went on a fucking, on a bad, bad rampage of how I'd come home and they'd be fucking falling out fighting and like my brothers had run up, my younger brother had fucking break down and said I felt like I'll carry my family for a long time. My dad had break down, my mum had break down. So I would fucking, it's 15, 16. I had a lot of responsibility on my shoulders at that age. I felt like I would fucking carry my family. Dad, it'll be all right mate. Sitting up to him at four o'clock in morning when I've got work next day. You know, fucking I'll be all right mate fucking. My brother's running away from home, fucking going missing. Ah fucking, Tom's gone missing. Where is he? My mum's fucking like crying out. Mum, listen, fucking these things happen. I'm doing relationship counselling and then going to fucking school and work next day with a big smile on my face. Still try to carry on with my own dream. So when I get to this stage I'm like fucking I'm a world champion. All of a sudden no longer is it. Wow Josh, you've just done something there. It's no longer that. It's fucked me financially. I can change the life of everybody around me. And I feel like I have that responsibility James. Not only like I say I'm a missus in my own kids. You know, I'm a missus sacrifice but my family will grow up with. So these things have, it's all come at once and all of a sudden you think fuck me. I've gone through a big door here. But I remember going back to change rooms and sitting down with world title like fuck me, I've done it. I've absolutely done it. But then a few minutes later I'm saying hey fucking hello's next. Hello's next. It's not that you're protecting your family but now you've got the opportunity to give them a healthy life but a stability. And that's all you need in life. You need to kick up, not to kick up the ass but you need to do something in the drive to put your foot in the floor in the morning to go. This is what I need to do. Because if I stop then like I say you're very protective. So you want to help your sister, your brother, your dad who's been through a fucking thing. So the reason why you've probably got a level headed is because you've seen all it's not easy not having money and the pain and the stresses of life. You've had all the stresses of life at very young age to realise I'm going to work and make it no matter what I do. And you're going through all those changes. Just I believe you'll fight it Eleanor again. I believe you'll be fighting in America. This is only the fucking beginning of you. You've made, you've built your platform. People love you. And you're only going to get bigger and better to what you're going to achieve because everything you've set your mind to you've achieved it. Everything you've visualised you've achieved it. And I only believe at 29 the next five years are just going to be fucking another level again and it's unbelievable. After the sailby fight then, what happened next? I know you went out against Frampton. Frampton and we fucking came out swinging first round and put on his ars. We're in fairytale land, really. We're in fairytale land. I mean fucking, you know, like kids who want to be footballers and that they compare us into being a top of sport in boxing. It's kind of like kids who want to play in FAQ final. You know, fucking, your drug dealers who want to be Tony Montana, you know. This is where I was. I were fucking the very, very top of the tree. I never, in my wildest dreams, thought I'd get to this level. Like I said to your fucking years prior to this, I weren't even Manchester Arena thinking, wow, I'd like to be in one of these next minute. I'm fighting Carl there, 29,000 people. And it would have case like, I'm here now. I want to be in the big fights. I don't want to have the fucking steady. Oh, let's have a steady first offence. Got offered to fight Carl. He was like, let's do it. You know, fucking, I've only given a fraction of what I'm capable of doing against Lee. Going into my prime years of the fight got offered against Carl. I'm world champion. He's ranked number one in the country. I ranked number two. Well, the fuck does that happen? The only way I found out is and make myself number one is by settling his differences and having a fight. And it was funny because years before that, you know, I'd been to Vegas to watch Carl fights Lee or Santa Cruz, me with pals had been in, you know, watching that fight and fucking some of the pals have said, give you a hard night with, with France and like, you know, a lot of respect for him. And then next minute I'm fighting him. Fight got made at Windsor Park. But again, massive confidence going into it. And again, I would have fucking massive underdog. But I won't going to let that attract me. I never have done since, since the early days of coming through, getting slagged off by media. I've always been fucking tunnel visioned and you are stopping me getting to my fucking goal. You know, these outside influences, it's my fucking life. It's, I know what happens, what, what happens. I know what happens and I know what my body's capable and what I see through my eyes. Then that's what I'm capable, I'm capable of doing about something about that. Does that make sense? Like listen, I fucking die tomorrow, everything gets switched off fucking you don't exist because bam, I'm gone and you know, but whilst I'm alive and breathing, I can do something about it. And now I'm at the fucking top of the game and do absolutely everything to stay at the top of the game to keep on winning. You keep writing me off. I'm looking if I can keep on coming. You tell me that I'm not good enough. Don't worry about it. You know, it's what happens. The actions speak a lot of words. 100%. 100%. There we are. And you know, I remember being in the apartment in the city centre in Manchester. And again, a little bit nervous, I'm thinking I don't want to be a fucking flashing pan here. I don't want to just won the world title and that. I fucking got beat on his first defence. True champion defends his belt at the fucking very top. I'm going in with very, very, very talented man here in Cal. But massively confident that I trained hard for that one, very, very hard. And it would probably, again, I've kind of this next phase of my chapter of my career, I've gone into, it's probably the most relaxed I've ever been in and I've been enjoying everything about it, like pulling in Manchester, fucking you know, going in the back door where all that is going off, fucking diving out of the car. Hey up boys, here we are, fucking big fight. Having a giggle in change rooms. Like I had Liam Cooper captain in Leeds United, the ring walk with me. We go around back, it's all quiet and airy. It's right Liam was fucking, when we start walking at ring belt nice and nice and high, shutter goes up, 20,000 people in there that night, fucking half of them is Irish fans, half of them is Leeds fans. The fucking noise is pulsating through. People are screaming and shouting at you. Liam's like, fucking hell, I'm going, here we go boys. That's going, but I'm buzzing, I can't wait for it. I'm looking out, fucking marching on the give-a-stats, bringing round people of Leeds fans all around the arena and I just standing up on the feet. The fucking, there's half of Irish fans like, whanker, but I'm loving it. I'm like, this is fucking stuffy dream of you know, it's like kids walking out to Wimbly or their dream stadium, wherever they want to be, whether it be Elin Road or fucking, whether the support, it's like them going out to their fucking, to the big platform, that's what I'm doing. I'm fucking living dream of getting ring, getting cars, getting the rings all pumped up. Now the day before the fight, we'd been at the wing, I'm looking down his fucking, I'm looking to his soul and saying, are you ready Carl? Are you ready to go to water mother? He's like, I'm fucking ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, he's getting all pumped up. And I can see veins in his neck, fucking starting to get bigger and bigger, but I'm just a bloody idiot. Now I were pumped, but I was calm as well. So I'm saying listen, we're going to water mother Carl, we're going to war. I fucking meant it. So I didn't have to like get pulled up with it because I meant what I said. And he said, oh fucking how we are. So I don't know if we're putting a brab, brabara on or what, but I'm looking over at him and he's pacing, he's pacing, bouncing off the ropes, just standing at me, he's fucking looking away. Now I'm looking, I'm like looking about fucking trying to catch people's eyes and crowd. I'm looking, I'm looking at him, here we go, here we go. Another big one, let's finish the year on a fucking, on a bomb. I've just had a film come out, I've had a fucking film premiere. I've just won world title. All the fucking things are going well for me. This is like cherry on top. My kids have been born this year. I've had to twins. Cherry on top. I'm looking out, Carl. Carl's fucking revved. Bang, first bell goes. We go to middle of ring. Now Carl's got brilliant fucking footwork and I've seen it for many, many years. Big wide stance, got a long jab. He's only small, but it makes, it controls distancing really, really well. Goes out with centre of the ring. And I'm moving about. I'm a lot taller than Carl, but again, it can control distance. It makes you think you're in range and then bam, can't you, can't you? So I'm being wary, I'm being wary. I'm landing a few jabs, bam, snap to the head, bam, snap to the head back. I've moved forward a bit and Carl's gone, moved back really quick. I thought, fuck me, that was quick. That was quick. If I've got to go forward, I'm going to have to do a lot better than that. There's a bit of fucking tension in crowd. I can feel it. I'm not really looking at faces, but I can feel tension round everyone's fucking singing songs and that. Moving forward, moving forward, right here. I fucking go in built clock in my head. No, there's about a minute and a half gone. Right here, we're fucking going to push forward. He moves back. He moves to, he's right, my left. I make a laredd i rnodl. I walk on the way, he stops. Soon as he stops that's it. Bum! Just fucking all in punches. Now I wanted to get his respect early on me worked on fucking getting respect early on. Putting an implant, putting your impression on him, early on in the fight. Seeing him fight many times and You get stronger as the fight goes long. I thought I can't let him build into it. Put impression on me that way, you silly bastard. I said go fast but I didn't mean go that fast. You know you're feeling all that, I said yeah. ac rhan o'r ffordd. Be'r bwysig yn ôl yn gweithio'r piwydau. Rwy'n cael ei gwneud. Ond mae'r bwysig yn olygu. Mae'r bwysig yn allu'r bwysig o'r bwysig. Ond yna os yw ymddangos chi'n amser yn gweithio'i bwysig. Ond rwy'n cael ei ffawr o'r bwysigol, a'r bwysig i ddweud o'i bwysigol, ac rwy'n cael ei ffawr i'r bwysig. Mae'r bwysig i ddweud, Ac rwyf wedi gweithio i'r ddod yn bach, yn ei rhoi, yn gweithio'r seis unioniaid. Ac ydw i'w gweithio'n gwneud hynny yn adroddiadol y bowl sy'n gweithio'r gwneud hynny. Ffyrdd y dweud, mae'n rhaid i'w ysgrifennu bwysig i fyfyrdd yma i'r Llywodraeth i Llywodraeth. Mae'n dda i'r chrywodraeth i'r rhaid i'n gwnaed o'r blaenau yma. Ac nim iddy yn gwneud rydych yn yr aggheithio. Mae'r amser beidio i chi yw'r plant newydd. Mae'n mynd i Chynghydd i wedi ffasio ddechrau yn ei gweithio a wnaeth sydd i gweithio eich bod yn mynd i chi'n unrhyw! Mae'n ffasio am gyda sefi yn ddigon! Felly mae'n cael ei rhai iddo. On dwi'n cael ei siaradau. Mae'n cael ei chynghydd y gael yn Carl Framson yng Nghymru. Rwy'n meddwl i'n cael dros yw'r Maean Fiwch. Mae'n cael yw'r Maean Fiwch, yn y ffasio. Mae'n cael eu gwlad yma i'r Gweithio. I want to fight another world champion, I want to win another belt but then I get my mandatory against Kid Gallard which you know I would have fucking, I've known a kid for a very long time, I've known him from amateurs I've actually boxed him twice in amateurs, really really well spoken lad but obviously people get older they change and people get into you know certain circles and actually like a bit of a bell end before press conference and he would all right have to fight didn't complain about the result anything like that and since as since complained about it but it's just one of them things you know I don't fucking hate people while going to ring with of course like I say we give it all and I know what everyone else goes through but actually that's that's your moment to to sort it all out and if someone's going to call me a cunt then I'm going to call him a cunt back all right I'm going to make and I must see if it's not there stand up for yourself we'll just go fight but if someone's going to start disrespecting you that's going to do yeah I've only had that against Lee Selby in him so that's why we're a lot of bad blood against there and yeah a little bit of a frustrating fight but at the same time someone like that can make you look daft it seems like you've completed lot of failure people no doubt you've probably had a stall on our few fights but would you ever go up to lightweight it's the next one to be super fivor but yeah I would do I would do who's got low pairs and low machenco yeah you are and like in super fivor you've got like you've got lad's of just boxless on a cruise yeah the rosefights in sight yeah dairy so most definitely listen why do you not want to fucking create memories here you know I talk about going to going to Vegas and I go to other states I keep repeating myself in interviews people say fucking obsessed we're doing that but I boxed in Berlin until 2015 and I boxed a journeyman just a bit of a tick over fight before I boxed in the two brown fight and the memories what I've heard from there like people when I talk to people who went over there I think about five six hundred people went over they've got Glyn in the right you know they reminisce on that story whatever they got up to I don't want to repeat on camera I don't want to expose names but whenever I go up to them Berlin then fucking super clubs and all that then brothels and whatnot but um you're making you're making memories for folk you know what I mean good memories as well yeah listen I had some of my mates grandad's come away from and family members like fucking all that's one of biggest things best spotting events for a bainter my mates grandad's crying that fucking are proud you've had a dint in people's lives you've make a fucking and not many people get to do that like yourself you'll reach out to people and it'll spiral on people will listen to your talk you'll make a dint in their life it'll be affected might change the way they think sports people do our influence influences to a certain degree do that sometimes the wrong influences you know fucking look at other people as you know reality being them maybe the wrong influence but to make an influence in someone's life and be part of their life is it's quite a thing you've made a memory of somebody I've had people who come to my show have met birds and they're still with them now and like they've started a family um some people talk about fucking times when they've won a lot of money the fights or something's happened whatever but you've made an implant on their life and it made an impression and uh and after I retire I won't I won't like I would like people to say hey do you remember when we fucking went to Manchester that time you remember Ellen Road do you remember when we went to uh do you remember when we went to Vegas so all them things that are in front of me right now you know I want to fucking go win belts I want to create a legacy not just for myself but for you know kids off at a state realize that listen don't get involved in all that stuff yeah no just remember just keep doing what you're doing stay focused I want to build an empire for my family you know for not to be flash guns and drive down in fancy stuff give them a bit of freedom yeah it's time isn't it it's time um that's what we all strive to have more time to be able to go and hold these that you want exactly exactly and see I wouldn't say you're alive to rich you're alive to riches you've came from nothing you've worked hard consistency visualization staying away from the bad things in life you wouldn't be where you are today if you'd got sidetracked if you drifted through drink drugs whatever it was maybe their own choice and what you always believed that you you are going to make it but you also believed that you need the backup plan which is fucking mega to even have that strategy in your mind at such a young age and now you're doing it you're living proof that you can achieve anything you want I believe this is only the beginning for you I believe you're just going to go right into the stratosphere and fucking take right over man your belief system second to none you're backing from the fans is second to none I think that's your second wind because you know you've got the fucking full city behind you it's not as if you're not you're not letting anybody down no matter what happens in your career now you'll never let anybody down but you've still got that inside you you're letting your family down and your fans down you've not and that's a fire inside james it's like there's been times after fights I've come back fucking absolutely devastated like what's up well you've just won you've just won but I figured I could have done better I could have made more entertaining I said to you beforehand there's been times when I've watched football team fucking and players not giving half effort and I know that people are paying their dad on money to watch you fight and it might be the only time they go out that month you know they might not get the luxury of going out it might be the only time to go out that fucking year you know might have just come from like only got into a job and it's the first pair back at the point of watch you spending money to come watch you you've got to fucking give absolutely anything so you're back now we've had the hair what's the plans for the future then for you so I've been after having three defences of world title now rank number one in I can still imagine I never get really too fucking to cut up on it you know you should though by enjoy it as well I know I know that's the fine balance that is a fine balance because you don't want to come across that cookie bastard but listen to me world titles in my fucking show cupboard at home downstairs or all the rest of belts are fucking in in in the office somewhere look listen I it's a fine balance and you don't want to get too cocky but at the same time you've got to appreciate because like you don't want to retire anything bastard I really enjoyed that so I enjoyed myself from time to time while I fucking have a joke on the lad but fucking hell my dad takes piss at me with my best pals around me that's fucking silly come you listen you're getting my next fight you're gonna get your ass on into you they would be fought like selby fight they were saying hey the selby's gonna fucking pag a you man you know we're playing fire aside and uh they say listen selby won't lost ball you shit come fucking and I'd be like running about all over you know it's people my circle round me is the same circle that I've always always had and the only coming to it like I don't let people in straight wage you know what I mean and I won't open the monster I don't want people coming round looking my ass and fucking telling me I'm great and fantastic I want people who are just going to be straight with me I think that's that's very important I've had agents who've come by and saying you could take me to stars and back and then realise that they just feel a shot yeah they're in it for themselves and and that's it's quick make a quick quid but you may have fucking hungry hungry I'm not finished yet yeah I'm not finished yet whilst ever I'm professional boxer I want to carry on doing what I'm doing I want to go like I say I've I've images already have been in Vegas seeing fucking 5000 people get off of planes walking for airport walking that's true even more than that smashing uh seeing those tables and fucking chairs what a fucking weekend with listen I've got I've got pals older pals who've said listen we've got credit cards ready ready and waiting to go we've got credit cards waiting and ready to go so when you give that blue light me that fucking that green light sorry we're going we're going to be there and like you can't buy that loyalty but this is people I've met over the years and I've I'll go before the fight I'll have like an uninstrucent pub with them or a cup of tea at their house and after the fight listen thank you for coming you know gosh out there and do enjoy what we and I like netting me their experiences that fucking I'm making these memories of people and they're solid they'll be with me till till day I die or sorry throughout my career they'll be there till the end of it but yeah we'll stand with video after having my defences and uh you know it started the year the the the goal was simple you know get a unification fight and uh and then go to America like say okay bum that's what I said I wanted to do um I'd come out I'd follow that I can't well not follow that I'd thought my contract expired with Frank and then I think Eddie just had the better contacts in the states and he's fucking since being away from Eddie he's boomed and boomed and boomed and got bigger and bigger uh but so have you yeah this is it and I think as soon as he heard that I was out of contract I lied to my manager let me fucking make him an offer and it was a little bit weird because we met in we met in Sheffield at some is there no bad blood then no no no listen I mean I mean you're the same from the film it actually looked okay but it looked gutty as well yeah yeah I think I think you are I think you are I think you a little bit frustration from my dad's side and my manager's side that things won't really happen in as quick as they want to do on that he's mate he's an obviously in them times when I've been away he's had the success with Anthony Joshua he's had success with the fighters in the states it's fucking he's a meme now innit so he's fucking loved I think the guy for what he does is unbelievable it gets a lot of stickers as well I don't see why he does he does and you know I'm not gonna lick his ass here because I'm impromo but when you look at the fans of sport these days and I don't realise that I said to earlier when I first turned pro shows with them leisure centres now from my fighters point of view it's fucking brilliant because like a lot of times when fighters get contracts they get sponsors and stuff like that and it's massive opportunities fighters becoming households names again and I will say that Eddie has been a massive part in that you know getting the shows from like fucking leisure centres to arenas and making fighters household names and obviously that's give all the other promoters a kick up their ass and give Frank a kick up ass all of a sudden he's doing things a little bit differently now um even the little things like playing music in between fucking rounds and and having certain players to get the fighters everyone knows that sweet cryo lines part of a big boxing night now you know edd I think edd he's been part of that makeup so very very clever um but yeah when when he when he met when we met up it would uh it was like a bit of a seedy meet in a fucking hotel down in Sheffield he had it I think he had a show down there and uh when he walked in he would just like all right mate all right edd you know fucking and obviously they would have interest a few off a few other promoters as well you know stateside and um over here that he's with sky and everything else he's doing fantastic in his political relationships so you know we're fucking we join back forces with him and you know the deal was like we're going to have a unification fight over here and we were set to fight inherently at the ruby stadium um in june obviously well this is fucking front front spotting the works you know what it's um it's it's been a blessing i mean you've always got to take I always try to take positives out of everything always um you have to do you have to do where you can't fucking soak them up about what you make um that's it for instance like uh just being being at home with kids I've I mean when I've got a fight on I'm I don't go away for camps but I'm not at home does that make sense like when I would I mean miss that kids fucking 12 weeks before so i'll be fighting they were born so i'll be fighting there were times when I were fucking helping her feed she had we've got twins I went helping her feed mate and fucking I free at morning and there's like five weeks before fighting I'm like what the fuck am I doing I'm fighting for the world title in like five weeks time what am I doing and even when I'm even when I was spending time with or I'm playing with them as a kids and stuff I'm not really putting my full energy because subconsciously I'm thinking about the fight it takes over your life it's like lose that I'm done I'm fucking that's me bomb I purple gone um I put everything into that I put absolutely everything into it so then after that we're straight into the frampton fight and blah blah blah so the fights have always been keeping busy and it's like she's like I remember when they used used to wear that it keeps all you know fucking clothes on that right fucking I've never seen him in that do you know what I mean like times of sacrifice I want to go out so this bit this initial bit has given me a lot of um a lot of time with them just to be fucking dad you know just be daddy do you know what I mean and I've got to know my kids a lot better even though I fucking live at home and like I train maybe have my camps at home I've got to know my kids like fucking never before and you know I absolutely love it it's all fucking it's precious mate it's precious um and like I won't love more kids but I won't do it until I retire because I'll never get it that that back that initial time when I've missed with them um and I've also used this time I've got my own game to you know fucking work and overpass him again how does your message in that when she's I should know she goes to all your feats how does she how is it never lacking for them coming to see feats um you know what she's always she's pretty cold me miss is like and she's pretty cold she's always has been she's emotion like she's certainly she's like kids she's more and more emotional but like um she displays her emotions in other words like I'd never cry I don't seem to fucking cry at a funeral or something like that which I think is a fucking weird thing but that's nerves but yeah but like she'd be in tears but there are no other things like that like I think it's the belief that she has in me I don't know I just um um we bounce off over each other in that respect and I when she we always stay here like in in when it's weeks and I always say to her like that she's working I always used to embrace her and say fucking if anything happens I fucking love you to you know blah blah and off she'd go but she's like she'd never be worried I think the only time she were ever worried were fucking just before the selby fight because I built it up on everyone else I built it up for for that which um we had that bit of animosity I mean fuck me she once sat she was sat ringside against Martin Lindsay and in 11th round man I don't remember this fucking it's my decent chin I eat me over right hand I don't remember the shot and she she was sat there so she could see my face and as I go here with the shot she said me fucking eyes went up back in my head and I fucking come back round and she's like worries about things like that she worries about me when I'm coming down off adrenaline because after fights I'm that get that hyped up I'm fucking you know when I'm on a different planet but then I've got to come down and I'm like coming to a bit of trembling if you've not seen it it looks nasty I'm like I'm chatting and stuff she worries about them things and stuff but you know she's always she's got confidence in me she knows what I'm sacrificing she knows the belief and she realises that you need that support don't you yeah yeah yeah you've also got your own podcast out I have me yeah yeah champion now come in to my world though conferences mate we're ticking over it all putting this energy into your podcast about and working people get about it that's on the that's on YouTube it's Josh Worrington is it Josh Worrington Josh Worrington you need the links in the description so get some sleep in guys as on iTunes and stuff as well not yet I'm a fucking me media team's fucking useless we're useless but we're on got one of it you know I think it's me and my dad doing it we're interviewing just like just like itself we couldn't be branching out different people we just started a lot of sports people from Leeds but try to be as raw as possible I think a lot of these pods are what are going on sometimes it's like too serious and what not I know we have been fucking serious in here but just like my dad's raw you've you seen on the film big man yeah he's raw mate he's raw doesn't look as if he's fucked about but that can't be good for you we'll probably clash but you need that as well it gets a giggle out and that's what so that's what we tried to get on with pods we get we get laughs out and stuff like that but yeah it's going all right mate it's going out building up that so yeah subscribe if you're fucking enjoyed listening to me it's what you've done and what you've achieved so far brother's unbelievable it's phenomenal from coming from basically fuck all to be working away and chipping away to now being world champion undefeated now get your family now get an income and now talking about hitting america elinode possibly all the biggest fights in the world it's phenomenal brother i'm proud of you and i can't wait to see the rest of you i appreciate it i appreciate that i'm genuinely in the sport you've got even the boys are here they've been fucking nothing but nice the setup it's been class um would you like to finish up on anything anybody that's maybe what about a boxer or understanding maybe fitness is key for mental health whatever would you like to finish up on anything yeah well i'll say a few things um like i said eh you've got to have good people around you make sure you surround yourself with good people um i think within a few weeks a few months you'll realise that's realising the bad people around you are no good for you if they're not striving if you don't get motivated of them people around you if they're just feeding you constantly with negative and and bad news and sad news and you know unless like they're family members or whatever you've got to cut look you've got to lose you've got to get rid of them it's in all this just go forward because they're going to only hold your back um listen we're not fucking if you want being in that scenario yourself experience is the best teacher but the second best thing to it is listening now there's a lot of vocal if you're especially if you're younger if you've if you're not being in certain scenarios there's a lot of people who've lived and they've been in certain scenarios and they're fucking might have done things what you kind of dream of listen because even if it's not directly linked to your field you can take a lesson from that you can take a lesson from that i mean given the example i've met fucking people i do a lot what forces listen to you can imagine some gruesome stories of people of what they've been in at the same time i do a lot of work with charities and i do a lot of work with children's charities now i always try to children's charities out whenever i can and you might mourn about fucking summer make it stuck in traffic flat tire whatever fucking you missed out on no pair of yeases what have just been launched don't fucking matter um and this is like listening and learning but at the same time putting things into perspective now i do a lot of things at work with charity like i said most of them uh kind of like as an ambassador for them they're working children's cancer i do a lot with children's art wall as well times i've been down there and i've seen kids fucking you know position made show go down show the belt or felt rise the the profile of the charity and i've seen kids down there fucking in rooms with one of the parents and that's all the loud in fucking machines coming out of them or i've been in arts wards and there's dads just been in out to work and they've had phone calls because the kid the kid at fucking five six year old have had heart attacks fucking heart attacks at five six year old you think wow they're kids man they should be fucking out and about playing we're in about amnetic talk followers they've got or you know i've they've got the latest trainers there's not things like that live you know frightening illnesses so there's always fucking people out there a lot you know worse and you know when it really puts things into perspective so learn from that live certainly learn from that fucking anytime i'm gonna think i'm going through something bad off like aches and pains i think fuck that it's always someone worse off and and and and fucking i'm gonna say on my last one uh finally what if you're gonna do where it's sport or business let's give it 100% and nothing's ever gonna go rosy for you listen 30 you know number one in the world but um it's not always been as fucking easy is that it's not always been as easy and you speak to anybody yourself um setting up this pod you'll have come through the things in your in your life everybody who has been successful will have come through and that adds a bit of resilience able to bounce back from that if you don't go right then fucking touch yourself off go the next day in this day and age everybody wants instant success they want to be fucking be trending every time they put a photo out or whatever life ain't fucking perfect everybody who's got them perfect pictures out there that ain't always always as it seems you have to go through a bit of attitude but don't break it don't think you're the only one that's happening to take it as a lesson dust yourself off get going again and the more good energy you fucking put out there it will come back it's kind of like karma i'm believing my brother josh it's been an absolute pleasure mate and all the best for the future great story mate should be proud check out more of my podcasts on the right and be sure to like share and comment your thoughts on this week's podcast thank you