 Mani rui, apba ni mazumiau garet te wanau i rohau, mumilitiau asili iırtionu, tu irohau apba u一起i toanau. Nau maki u i endukiau ka munguot, kia asili iirotionu i kato, mumili e munguot i jambahau, minozi mazumiau pa iroha. Mani raka'a kai irohau, maka miau prtsta maza, maza irohau i K-Road, magingu ar Samoan, pratissinau, azi iirotionu i raka uniau, muna, muna irohau rangīlau proswa arandu. I had to learn what that was about. I literally just earned enough to pay for my $50 bus pass to come to work from Mangere to K Road every day. And that's what I did. And I did it for two years. But the solid grounding was really priceless. Just that every other case was on a pro bono basis. It was amazing. That's what guided my practice. Really right from the beginning. And in many respects it's actually how I practice today. I've had the privilege of representing families of understanding the issues of knowing what their struggles are. And I've had the challenges of advocating for them against systems, against government systems. So the first, you know, 40 years was really about building my career. And then you say, what do I do with this knowledge now? And I say, I want to use that knowledge to actually now try and improve systems. Every one of us serves a different purpose and you've got to be really comfortable about understanding what your purpose might be. So I find that the purpose of why I get to sit at some of those boards is actually to bring the everyday experience of the average man. So I'm not a token person sitting at a board. It's about, you know, if I want to make a real difference to a particular sector of society, am I presenting their case? What's the persuasive argument that I'm putting forward? Whilst law school doesn't necessarily prepare you for the real world, the tools that we can learn at law school can be incredibly useful. And it's how you use those tools to actually for advance and advocate, you know, for different cohorts of society. That's exciting. That's what can make a difference. And I think that's where you can actually influence change.