 Run it up, they run it back. Run it up, they run it back. Run it up, they run it back. Good Monday morning. Welcome to Run It Back. We are live in studio in a rainy and gross LA. We didn't sign up for that. Yeah, it's piping hot. Yeah, we all left our cold places to come here. Hello. Yes, stadium insider, Shom Sharanya. My name's Michelle Chandler Parsons. Lou Williams on the end there. And Chandler, you've been in Orlando the last several days in a golf tournament that was beat. The scores were being kept, yes. Here we go. How did you do? Well, it says here it finished 39th out of 48, thanks. But you can see my sweater game was strong here in these videos coming up. The fifths were on point, everything else. He looked good, played good. That's not the case in golf. But no, it's very fun. I was able to go to Orlando, which is where I'm from. Got the T-skies. Is anybody important? Any names we might know? So I beat Charles Woodson, Larry the kill guy, Vince Carmetz, Carter, what up? The word is Vince Carter didn't finish all four rounds. Did he? No. OK, so you did beat him then. But I did beat him. That's just not my fault he couldn't finish. I will say walking four rounds in a row, that's my that's the first time for me not giving excuses. It's a different animal when you got to walk that thing. You? But yeah, I didn't play great. Is that what you want me to say? Do you know what? Here you go, there you go. That's fun. What's going on here? By the way, the big stick was working. Look at that swing. Look at that swing. I mean, the form is on point. I don't know the result. There were a couple of things that we changed. It's funny, I've never really watched film of the golf. You watched film of basketball. I've never really broke it down here. Let me see that again. I think there was something wrong with the, all right. Maybe you're too tall for golf. Joe, my fans who were telling us this is dead, you're away. No, so when you tee off, so when you tee off, this is what's terrifying. I hit a big cut, so when you tee off, there's Vince. There's Vince? When you tee off, they line up to your left and there's like, they build like stands behind you. This is at the green, this isn't at the teeth. These are people's house. And I hit a big cut, so if I'm ball, it happened to go straight, which it rarely does. I'm hitting someone in the head. Oh, that's probably why you got the 39,000, 48, maybe? He was looking after the people. I go as to beat Courtney and did not finish last. So I'm two for two. Did you, you tied with Kevin from the office? Kevin from the office has some serious game. The big guy, the big guy turns and get it. What is this, a roast? No, I mean, look, here's the roast. Hold on, here it comes. Knock it in. Knock it in. Putt, putt, putt. There you go, so that's just an easy putt. That's just an easy putt. In fairness though, and I think we all can agree with this, Chandler plays golf a lot, almost after every Chandler. You would think, you would think. Chandler goes out and gambles and drinks on the golf course a lot. She doesn't play good golf. And this is a real tournament where you're playing with a top woman in the world, which is the most terrifying part, because you're just trying to stay the hell out of their way. Why they compete. And she has to watch that swing before she hits. It couldn't have been good for her. Which is crazy, because the first school I played with finished dead last, which is not that shocking. But then the second girl I played with, she was like tied for fifth. So I'm like, hey, don't let me go first. Like you go first and get yours out of the way. Yeah, but it didn't bother her. Did you have a favorite person that you met or played with? That girl, Marina Alex, she's a stud. She played at Vanderbilt and then Brian Erlacher. Really? How's the hair looking? It looks good. Yeah, because he does the, he's got a spokesperson for the plugs. He's still just like a big beef cake. He's actually really... He's not bald anymore? No, he's got legit hair. Full head of hair, Lou. Legit hair. He's awesome. You can dream. He's awesome. He's awesome. And if you see the blue Gatorade, it's not Gatorade in there, right? Okay, you know what? Don't try to excuse yourself. I'm deflecting. 39 out of 48. Not bad. Imagine what I'll get next year if I get invited back. If you get invited back. We've got some scoops. We actually have some basketball scoops to get to, although I could roast Chandler for another 30 minutes, but Zach Levine, I swear, Shoms, your updates are not making me happy. What is going on? He's had a tough season. He missed 17 games of the foot injury in December and then he finally got back in the lineup recently, played seven games, but now he will be out at least the next one to two weeks. He's got a sprained ankle. It's worse than just a grade one. So he had a tough sprain. He played through it last week. And we've been talking about him as a player of interest for the Lakers. They have had some interest in Zach Levine. The thing with Zach Levine that makes a deal tough, you know, as you look into the trade market, he's got three years and 140 million dollars left on his contract after this season. And I think both sides, I think there's an understanding that this could go into the summer. This could be something that plays out. There could be a summer transaction for Zach Levine. And when you look at this Bulls roster, how does this impact DeMar DeRosin? It's something that I'm curious about. He will be a free agent at the end of the season. And if there's not a Zach Levine trade, what do you do if you're the Bulls with DeMar DeRosin? If you have a guy that's on an expiring contract, do you look to trade him? Do you try to get value now? Or do you try to give him an extension? Do you try to, you know, sign him in the office? But you run the risk of losing him for nothing, especially if you still have Zach Levine. And I think the Bulls have wanted to find a spot for Zach Levine and free up some money, potentially for a guy like DeMar DeRosin, the players, coaches, the all-values, leadership. But this is a team. This is something that could happen in the summer. It's kind of crazy. I feel like we're just gonna be in a holding pattern. And when I saw your tweet about the ankle, I was like, oh, this is just gonna extend what already seems like a long drawn-out process. He's averaging 25 and four over 25 games. He has a two-time All-Star. And we've been talking about this for a minute, what would be the best landing spot for him? To me, I think it's getting to the point where it's Lakers or Bust. I think, and it's never been a question about his talent. I think he can score the ball. He's proven that in years. If you said he's an All-Star, and the Lakers can use him. They can use his shot creating. They can use his scoring. They can use his shooting. And I do think they're gonna end up with a Murray or him, but I just don't know if they have enough juice now. I don't know. I feel like this is kind of stagnant. And again, the numbers you just said on his salary, do you want to pay a guy as the number one option? That salary is the number one guy. And he's not gonna be the number one guy in the Lakers or most of the teams. He's gonna be more of a two or three guy. So like, do you want to give up that much money to a guy that's not gonna be your best player? So are there other scenarios that we can be keeping our eye on as far as he's concerned? The Lakers are doing their due diligence. Dejante Murray, Bruce Brown, Jr., who just got traded to the Raptors. Thais Jones, Terry Rosier. I'm told those are names to keep an eye on. The Lakers and Hawks did have some pretty extensive conversations about a Dejante Murray trade a couple of weeks ago. It was sent around to D'Angelo Russell, 2029 first on draft pick and a pick swap. I'm told the holdup was that Atlanta wanted to find a 13 for D'Angelo Russell. He's got a player option for next season. They wanted to find a spot where they might be able to get an expiring contract back. I would expect the sides to circle back as we get closer to the February trade deadline. But listen, D'Angelo Russell, the last five games, I think we need to give him credit the way he's playing. 27 points a night, six assists per game, over about five threes per game as well. His splits are unbelievable. 56% from the field over the last five games. He's gotten a lot, I think, a flack over the last month or so. He's been in and out of the starting lineup. He's back in the starting lineup now. And so he's played at a really high level for the Lakers the last five games. Is that a don't trade me last minute plea? What is he doing? No, that's actually gonna backfire. Usually when guys start playing really well at the trade deadline, it's like an audition. Like, see, I told you he can play. Do you want in? And so there's two things that happens at the trade deadline. Guys start playing really well or guys start playing really bad. Well, three things, because you start seeing guys play that probably weren't in the rotation, that is a red flag. If you start seeing guys' minutes pick up right before the trade deadline, you are being auditioned. Oh no! So with D'Angelo Russell playing well, this can backfire on him and he probably can get himself traded by doing it. Yeah, other teams are seeing him. Well, damn, he still can play. He still can do this at an elite level. We could, all right, now, all right, whatever. If he's gonna play like this for us, let's go ahead and do it. And you got D'Giante, two game winners in a row. That's gonna be a very interesting trade deadline. Back to the Zach Levine of it all. Can he be a number two on a contending team? Quite possibly. I don't know what his options are if that would be the scenario, right? Only teams I would see is OKC. He could go to OKC and be the second best player. Other than that, you look at Boston, Milwaukee, Philly, Minnesota, Denver. These guys already got their one and two punches, you know? So he's gonna be a third option on contending teams. Now, could he find himself as a number two option? Sure, but I don't know if they're gonna be a contender. And he's the type of guy where he is talented enough where he can go and be a guy for a stretch. He can be that go-to guy. He can get the ball at the end of the game because he can go have these 40-point games and kind of erupt offensively. But no, I don't think so. I don't think he's definitely not a one option. Not for a contender. Yeah, for not for a contender and not at that salary. That's a lot of money to pay to a guy that's not your best player, that's not your franchise piece moving forward. You're not gonna have 40, 50 million coming off the bench. Yeah. Did they say OKC? Yeah, I know. I thought I was gonna go disrupt everything. Yeah, just because it's a contender. Strictly declared everything. What about the Knicks? Are the Knicks in the running for anything? I know... I'm sure we're gonna do it later in the show. We can ask him out or we can tease it for later. OK, let's tease it for later. Let's do it for later. Almost like if there's a rundown. Trey Yong had a game on Saturday that he left early for concussion. What's the latest? Yeah, he's been diagnosed with a concussion. How this works in the NBA, he's gonna be in their protocol and the concussion protocol for the next 48 hours today, tomorrow, and he needs to show that he's got no symptoms and they're gonna continue to test him and see how he's doing over the next 48 hours, the next 72 hours as well. He's gonna be re-evaluated by the team physician. He has to clear protocols in order to return to action. He's not playing tonight against the Kings. Most likely you would assume he's out Wednesday as well. Against the Warriors, they're on a quick, they're on a road trip right now. They come out west. So they go back at home on Friday against the Mavericks. Maybe, you know, if he's feeling better as the week goes on, you see him there. But yeah, tough for Trey Yong. He just got back in the lineup. He missed a game in Miami. He gets back in the lineup and now he's out with the concussion. He was just sick in Miami. And now he's got a concussion. Sick in Miami. Got a newborn baby, man. Anything's possible when you got a newborn in the house. Let me ask you if that does anything. It's weird timing for him to have this with the Dejante Murray trade deadline situation. Does it matter? Well, you see something interesting. I think the Hawks wanted Trey Yong, Dejante Murray. They wanted that combination when they go trade for them. Those two guys haven't exactly, I think, panned out the way the Hawks wanted. And what you see when Trey Yong's out of the lineup is Dejante Murray plays really well. And he plays better with the ball in his hands when he's the lead guard, back-to-back game winners, especially the one in Miami where he led that team. That Hawks team was down against Miami. He leads the comeback win, hits the game winner. So Dejante Murray, when he is the lead ball handler, that's part of all this, right? Like where could he end up? Is it a team like the Lakers? Is it a team like San Antonio? Is it a team, you know, which team can he go and be a lead point guard for and lead ball handler for? And I think that's the potential quest that we have here with Atlanta and interested teams. I mean, they're sitting in 10th, Chandler. What do you do? Do you make a move? Do you deal? I think they deal. I think Sean said it on the head. I think this sounded good, putting Murray and putting Trey Young together. And it just didn't pan out like they thought it would. And the Hawks are an interesting team because I thought they were gonna make that jump this year. They have a lot of players that a lot of teams could use. Like teams, the guys love bogey. They love De'Andre Hunter. Jalen Johnson apparently is untouchable. That kid's turning into an absolute stud. They got solid bigs with Capella and Akangu. Akangu, so they have the talent, but they don't have enough. And this isn't working to be a championship contender. So yeah, I think you can move Murray. I think you can add pieces, stack up draft picks, do whatever you have to, because this combo is good as they are. They're not the best together. And it hasn't really worked out. So I would, well, it's not too late. They're not going anywhere this year. They're not gonna win this year. Ship out De'Jante Murray, let him go somewhere else, get stack up assets picks, and then go from there. Cause you have a lot of pieces on this team where there's not like they're gonna trade Murray and then be tanking. They have the talent. Who do you want to see make a big step up, no matter what happens with this team? Playoff push? I think they got a few guys that have the opportunity to do it. You know, you got Bogdan Bogdanovich in that six man role that's gonna play well for you. That was a starter at one point. I'm not sure when De'Andre Hunter is gonna come back from injury. He can be a guy that gives him a big push, but like we just mentioned, Jalen Johnson has come out of his shell and he's playing great basketball for this team. So he could be a great third option and be a pick and roll punch for De'Jante Murray and Trey Young or whoever's gonna be on that team after that February deadline, but you know, they have a few options of guys that can really help them make that push if they're gonna do it. And they brought in De'Jante Murray and Trey Young, I think he's gonna be best when he's not the best player on the team, but I think Trey Young still thinks he's the best player on this team. So I didn't know. He is though. But you know what I mean? They have to bring in, they need to. He has to be a mentality. And it's gotta be an absolute star that's not, like I think he's thinking this is still his team, this is an equal which it is most nights, but it's gotta be someone else because this didn't pan out. I will say when you look at the Lakers targets, I mean, think about De'Jante Murray. You think about Bruce Brown Jr., Ty's Jones, Terry Rozier. They had those conversations with the Hawks. De'Angelo Russell, De'Angelo Cefino, first round pick, a swap from what I was told and the hold up being Atlanta trying to find a third team. So when you think about those targets, who do you guys think is the best fit for this Lakers team? I don't hate De'Jante Murray. I just, I don't hate De'Jante either. I think De'Jante makes more sense basketball wise because I like him being able to create, I love his shooting outside of with LeBron and AD, but that salary, that's a lot, man. It's a lot for a team that I don't know if he's enough to put them, okay, to compete with the nuggets and the clippers and these teams and the playoffs and the thunder. So I don't know, and there's other names you said, I don't really love those either. So I don't know, I don't know what they're gonna do. Oh, this is gonna be a fun deadline. A fun deadline indeed. Let's take a trip. Like Terry Rozier. Yeah, I know. He's gonna help the Lakers. Completely forgot and then boom. Whatever they do, they shouldn't bring in anybody that's gonna be ball dominant. LeBron James is the point guard. We've seen everybody, we just stay, we've seen it with Schroeder, we've seen it with De'Angelo Russell. LeBron James is gonna be the point guard. So if you're gonna bring somebody in, bring a Zach Levina and somebody that can give you 20-25 points and play out the basketball. I like living the best of all his names. And there it is, it's established. Let everyone know, Shoms, thank you. Around the league, we shall we go. And there's some moments starting with an Anthony Edwards moment after Saturday's game. He expressed his frustration with the referees. It's hard to man with the calls that Shay gives. It's hard, it's hard to shut him down. He can't touch me at any time of the game. So it's super hard to beat that team, it's a good team especially when you're in calls like that. All right, fair enough. Is he, is he, just so you know, SGA who he's talking about, is third in the NBA in free throw attempts per game. Is he right to be frustrated? Yeah, I mean, numbers don't lie. He's third, but. Well, one, Shay is from the School of Blue. You know, so early on in Shay's career, there was a point of emphasis that we worked on with him and me and Pat Bev, just getting to your spots, learning how to cheat the game, using your pump fakes and all of that. And also you gotta look at the style of play. Listen, if you're not gonna, if you're not a physical guard and you're more of a finesse guard, you're not gonna shoot free throws, you know? Ant-Man is one of those guys, he's gonna rely on his jump shooting or he's just gonna jump clean over you and finish at the rim. He doesn't play through a lot of contact because that's the style of play that he has. And so I think this is a little miss, yeah, it's a little misleading, but you know, I just, I want him to just continue to hoop, not worry about that, not worry about SGA because I think their style of play is so much different. And it's smart on Shay's point because he's a great free throw shooter, he's getting to the line, he's stopping the flow of the game. And this has happened a lot with member James Harden back in the day, guys were getting pissed and actually so many complaints happened where they stopped giving him this whole rip through foul call. But when you watch these workouts now, you watch guys like Chris Brickley, Drew Hanlon, these trainers, they teach you basically how to create contact, like Lou was saying, how to cheat the game, how to initiate it and then get the calls. That's part of the evolution of the game and evolution of basketball. And on the flip side, you have to be taught how to defend without these moves working. So it works both ways and I do love it. Is there a beef here, is there a rivalry? No, I don't think so, but these are two of the best. I hope so. Yeah, exactly. I think it would be great. And I want one. And I think these are two of the best young guards both on great teams this season. So yeah, I hope there's a rivalry here because these two guys are awesome. But they're both stars. I mean, we're always talking about stars, get calls, maybe the other guys don't, but these are two stars. Yeah, if I'm Anthony Edwards, I'm trying to do the same thing. I'm watching film on Sam and I'm watching how is he getting to the line so much more than me? How is he creating this contact? Cause they have similar games on the perimeter. Can you imagine if Edward Starr is playing with his back to the basket? He's gonna be a free throw machine. Nobody's gonna be able to stop him. He's so big and can play physical, even though that's not how he likes to play his game. But if he puts pressure on the man that's guarding him out of that post, out of the mid post, his free throws would go up at least four to six attempts. Well, you may not want there to be a rivalry, but I think some of us do. And it could be brewing. There was a post from SGA day after they played Minnesota. Just, yeah, the caption. They talk about me for my post game, not my post game. Where did it go? That's not him. That's not us, yeah. God. No, SGA had a post and it was like one of it. First of all, he dresses impeccably and he has all those like model shots and it sort of looked like one of those, but it feels like something brewing. That's not a bad thing. No, and I don't think, I think again, this is the world we live in with social media and there's an outlet for everybody to kind of get this banter going, but these guys, there's not a rivalry. Shay got, he has a great game when it comes to labeling his pictures. I don't think this is. He really does. I honestly think this has nothing to do with Anthony Edwards at all. But if it did, this is interesting. I like it. I like it too. I like it too. I'm not from Ireland, but I'm Dublin or something. Wait, is he doing that? This is the norm for SGA. So maybe. Who taught him that? Who's doing the cast? Is that your game? That's his game. That's the school of Lou too? No, I think that's the school of Drake. I think that's the Toronto connection. We've also had a video that went weird over the weekend. Oh, that's fun. We're gonna take a quick break right now. When we come back, we will be joined by actor and comedian Paul Scheer. We're gonna run it back for Terence. Run it up, run it back, run it up, run it back, yeah. Oh, you might know our next guest from The League and the show Black Monday. He also hosts the very popular podcast. How did this get made? It's Paul Scheer joining us from the sexiest room we've ever had on the show for sure. What's up, Paul? Good morning. Good morning, good morning. I am so excited to be here because for a little bit yesterday, as a Clippers fan, I thought I was gonna have to come in here with my head hung low for basically for about three quarters and a half. I felt like I would have to come in here and make a lot of excuses, but I am very happy to be here after that triumphant comeback yesterday. Yeah, can we start there by the way? Cause you grew up in New York, then you moved to LA, but you don't pick the Lakers, you pick the Clippers. Why? You can't, you can't pick the Lakers. It's a bandwagon choice. I came from New York, a huge Knicks fan, but my thought was if I'm gonna be here in LA for a bit, I wanna bring my kids to games and I want them to have a team. And so I picked the Clippers, they were exciting at that point and it was like a fun kind of new version of the Clippers and yeah, I've been happy ever since. And one of those reasons why is from one of those guys right there on your desk, I mean, I really will, I mean, come on, one of the best. This hasn't been, as a Clippers fan, 2018, 2019, that season, this season are my two favorites in recent memory. That's pretty good. Paul, I appreciate it. Yeah, this is gonna be a fun one. So Paul, you grew up a Knicks fan. Yeah. Why not just stay a Knicks fan? That's tough. Because if I say Knicks fan and live in LA, I gotta watch four o'clock games and then what? Like, I get excited once a year when my team comes to town. I can't do that, I can't do that to my kids. Now, my kids actually have a team that can go to multiple games. Like, I never liked that kind of thing where it's like you'd see somebody in New York and be like, well, we're Minnesota fans. Like, well, yeah, you're not Minnesota. Come on. That's so sensible. One of the best parts about being a Clippers fan is that people yell at me all the time when I'm wearing my Clippers stuff here in Los Angeles in previous seasons. So, you know, it's part of the city. It's part of what you live for. Makes sense. That makes sense. You've been to a ton of Clipper games. I gotta ask, what's your favorite to memory? Oh, man, there is a great game. I feel like two years ago, or yeah, like as a comeback against the Celtics and it was the first time, I think that Clippers have this energy where the stadium, it's in LA, where everybody is coming into town, right? So, whether it is New York or whether it is Boston or Sacramento, it always feels like somebody else's port sometimes. And I remember like Pat Bev getting that crowd to be behind the Clippers on this comeback. Like we shut up a Boston crowd. And that to me was an amazing night just because it felt like the tide shifted. And from there forward, I feel like we've kind of stayed a little bit as a Clippers stadium in that disgusting crypto.com. By the way, was the 42 that Lou dropped? Was that a big moment in the family? Did you guys celebrate? Huge, yes, I literally, well, the reason why you're going to see some of this boudoir back here is because I was running to go get my Lou Williams stuff. I have it in a closet and I was just getting it out and I was like, I don't have enough time. I don't have enough time. I was like going through everything real quick. So yeah, no, I mean, that was huge. I mean, there's been so many great things. I mean, the comeback against Golden State, like amazing. So many great Clippers moments and I feel like it's all kind of coming together right now, which is really exciting. Paul, besides Lou, who's your favorite Clipper of all time? Oh my gosh, of all time. You know, look, Lou, like I said, 2018, 2019 was huge for me. I would say like Lou and Pat Bev to me were the guys that I loved watching play. I just loved the energy. I felt like the toughest thing for you guys to do, at least from my vantage point, was like you guys carried that team. You carried everything about it. You created culture and that to me is so important. Like I love the, you know, the Blake Griffin years and everything like that, but the time when it was just you two, that was really a special time, a special moment. Amazing. I love internet. You mentioned Blake. He's obviously now post career and during his career as he's dabbling into comedy and standup and he's legit funny. Oh, I've done shows with Blake. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask. What kind of stuff have you done and what do you actually think? Is it, is it, is he actually funny or is he just funny because he's Blake Griffin? No, he's actually funny. The first time I did anything with Blake, it was like me, Blake and DeAndre, Jordan, we were doing a live read. Like we took the script, the space jam and we put Blake in it instead of Michael Jordan. And then we all cast all the characters around it. And that was a blast. And then Blake has come on like improv shows that I've done at Largo and the thing is, I think that you think like, okay, it's Blake, it's going to be whatever, but he actually is very funny. So, and I think he cares about being funny. Like, you know, he's not like just doing it on a lark. Yeah, I think people say someone's funny but we have different levels for it and he actually is funny in the world. Which I kind of love. I think it's tricky because you have like people, like you know, like Lou, like Lou's, you know, you make music, right? And I think it's hard when people know you as one thing and then you also do something else. And I feel like, but you can do it. You can split the difference. Like you and Dame and I feel like, I don't think there's any other comedians in the NBA. Like I think there are a lot of funny players but no one else trying to do comedy actively, right? Nah, I don't think so. No, not at all. I don't think, no. Paul, I played for both the Lakers and the Clippers. I know. So I've experienced firsthand the way that this city treats one Jersey opposed to the other. Even though I think the Lakers are so ingrained in the culture of Los Angeles, what do you think it takes for the Clippers to become that team in LA? You know, for me, I feel like you got to start with the kids, right? You have to have something to grow up into. And I feel like that's what's going on now when the Clippers and Ballmer came in and he started basically financing all these public parks, right? And putting up these Clippers hoops. I feel like that's important. And the kids I know, like when Kawhi came to town and he gave those backpacks to every kid in public school, like I feel like that's the energy that you kind of need. LeBron will always be LeBron. And even though every Laker fan I talk to is like LeBron's not a Laker, I don't understand that mentality. And I love the, and look, the Lakers, the Lakers are like the Dallas Cowboys. Like they are basketball. Like you can't knock them down but you can only expect to compete and make it exciting. And I feel like that's what the Clippers have been trying to do. And I think it's working. I won't make any Cowboys jokes right now because it's too soon for some. That's painful. But it wasn't that long ago you got into a bit of a Twitter beef with Lakers fans, Shannon Sharp, which is obviously considered the Lord's work, where I'm from. Any regrets in that one? Never. Oh. Yes. How does that even go back and forth? Like that's a tough guy to get in a beef with. It is. It is a tough guy. And it's funny because like he likes to talk. He likes to talk. And I feel like most of my fights on Twitter have been basically around Clippers stuff. So it's fun. I mean, cause it doesn't mean anything either. And yeah. I mean, maybe one day I'll go on Club J.J. and I'll do a three and a half hour interview and break down all my beefs with everybody in the world. You're gonna attack every white comic that ever lived. Well, it's gonna be the best three and a half hours ever. Or they did a, I don't know, I guess a poll not that long ago in the off season talking about who drinks the most in arena. This actually shocked me. Cause the Clippers not only drink the most, they also eat the most. And when I think of LA, I don't think of eating. But are you shocked by that about your fans? I was because we share a stadium with the Lakers. Yeah, it's interesting. Are you telling me that they don't drink and eat as much as us? Because whenever I go to a Lakers game, people seem pretty drunk. Yeah. Yeah. I'm shocked by that. I was surprised not like Detroit cause I was just gonna waste watching that team play. Yeah. I didn't know we had a culture of drinking. I didn't know you either. I like that you feel like that. That's not the vibe I get when I play there. Learn that today. No, that I mean, I'd also argue too. It's like, you're right. There's not like really a culture of drinking. And it's like everyone's driving to go into that staple center. Like it's like, you know, you gotta come into it. Like that's a very much a car city. The cops should just sit there and have a field day. Yeah, just sit at the parking garage and wait. Good call. Way to help the cops, Chandler. Yeah, Paul. Your Clippers are currently fourth in the West. I have a CPG, Kawhi Hardin, the album planned pretty well. Does this team have enough to win a championship this season? I would never say anything that would jinx any opportunity in any way. I'm just enjoying the ride. That's all I want to do, I'm enjoying the ride. Like, look, every team has a potential to do anything really. But no, I think as a Clippers fan, like I am frightened out of my mind, right? Oh my God, this is fun. But when will something terrible happen? Like I'm a Jets fan as well. And Aaron's like, everyone's like, you're excited about Aaron Rodgers? You're excited? I'm like, no, I'm not. Because I know what's gonna happen. Something terrible. And that happened when the first five plays of the first game. So like I am cautiously optimistic. I'm enjoying everything. And that's all I'm gonna say. Like I know that Shaq was like pushing PG to be like, if you want a championship, you gotta say it. I'm like, no. Because the minute Shaq says that we're gonna get a championship, we're going down. Yeah, right. Because we gotta keep our head low. Just keep on winning games and move forward. Well, listen, I actually like the Clippers coming out of the West this year. I just feel like they're loaded with talent. And with that, they're opening their new arena next year. Have you been able to see it? Have you been able to tour it? And how excited are you to not finally have a home or your own and not share an arena with the Lakers? I'm very excited. I always forget how to pronounce it, like the Init Dome or Intuit Dome or Intuit. Intuit, yeah. The Intuit Dome. I got my seats. I got my season tickets all locked up. And I'm excited that they're doing weird stuff. Like the wall is amazing to me. It's basically all behind one basket. Just fan, it can't be another fan. Yeah, it's great in theory. Yeah, it's like, and I think like it's fun to go to these places and just feel like, oh, we're gonna try to do something different. And everything I've seen from Bomber, it seems like if you present him two nice options, he's like, yeah, yeah, we'll do them both. So I feel like that whole stadium is going to be pretty magical and exciting. And whenever you get to see a new stadium, it's always kind of cool. I just saw a Golden State game last year and that stadium is beautiful to chase the arena. It's great. So I feel like it's exciting whenever you open up a new stadium and hopefully they'll bring some more culture in there. And the thing I'm most excited about as a Clippers fan, as an LA driver, is that apparently Bomber has made some agreement with the Department of Traffic in Los Angeles. So they're gonna be opening up lanes to Inglewood. So four lanes in and four lanes out and they can be able to control all the stop lights so you don't have any traffic once you get off the highway. That, I was like, that's like, we're really gonna feast on that new highway. First of all, whenever you're in LA when that's the most exciting thing you've ever heard and you're like, oh my God. Oh my gosh. I mean, do that for every highway, not just Inglewood. I know, I mean, all we need is Bomber to buy more things. If anyone, if you are just a thing, where if you've gone to a Taylor Swift concert, if you've gone to a Ram's game, you know it's just like a nightmare. It's brutal. Yeah. And there's no one thing in and out. So I feel like this is a good thing. I feel like Bomber understands, it's a commitment asking everybody to go there, but like, let's do it. That is awesome. It's like the Dodger game. The Dodger game, I love going there. I can't, I won't do it. I'd rather just sit there and watch them on TV. Yep, because getting out is the worst in the world. I have, yeah, I live kind of near the Dodgers and it's like, you feel that traffic. It just, it's like, I feel the energy of it just on my house. Sucking through the it. I've never finished a Dodger's game. No, you either gotta go super early and leave early or go late and leave early. But you can't leave early. You're not going on time ever. No, you can't do that. I'll tell you this. As a dad, what makes it all the worst is once you get in your car and your kid's like, I have to go to the bathroom. That's the worst. And you're like, oh, I don't know. I know we're gonna be in this car forever. Forever. So then you have to get out, go back in, go bathroom it back in your pants, kids. Although a lot of truth. Thank you, Chandler. I don't know if that's what you meant. You can curse on this. Now we're in a whole different interview. Chandler has a special contract. Yeah, there's always that open. To do whatever he wants. The podcast, how did this get made? Yes. Talk about awful movies, but you also had Space Jam on there. I thought Space Jam was supposed to be a good movie. Was I wrong? Yes. What? Do I not remember? Space Jam is terrible. I get it. Space Jam is terrible. Culturally, it's great. Like they got great uniforms, go buy those uniforms. But it's a, it's a bad, I mean, look, I love MJ the best, not a great actor. We did that in Chicago. And we had to basically say to people in Chicago like, face it, it's not, he's not good. This is not good. Bill Murray's funny in it. But I mean, you know, it's weird. It's a weird movie. So you really don't like the new one with LeBron. Because that was hot garbage. Let me tell you something. Don Cheadle, a friend of mine, or my co-star on Black Monday, Space Jam 2, interesting movie. Interesting movie. That's a nice way to put it. I thought Space Jam was good. Maybe it's just like nostalgic. It's our kid, yeah. If you watch it again as an adult. If you watch it again as an adult. That's what we should do. We should re-watch it. It's probably horrible if you watch it. That's what it is. It is fun because it's like, look, as a kid, like you want to watch like Michael Jordan in the movie. But if you sat down and watched it, like, huh? What's going on? Fan bugs, buddy. Now we're gonna watch it again. My favorite joke of the whole movie is, he is Michael Jordan in the movie and he is living in like a two-bedroom house in like Pasadena. Or like, I'm like, what, this, you gotta at least show me that this is, I don't care if it's playing baseball. You know there was rumors that his kid was Eric Gordon in that movie? Do you ever hear that rumor? No. Yes, yes. I don't know if it was actually Jordan, but they were saying that kid playing, that was Eric Gordon. Okay, how do we not know that? All this is this, I don't know. Never research it because it's better if we don't get the bucket. Let's just dig into it. That's the theory of my life, Paul. I don't like to research anything. Just go with it. Just guess. I just learned something new. The internet's red best. I'm going down to the rabbit hole. Yeah, I've never heard of it. No pun in the world. It looks just like Eric Gordon. Makes sense. Check this out. So Paul, a few years ago, you shot a scene for your movie, Daddy's Home. I have times of a Pelicans Lakers game. What was that experience like for you? Well, first of all, it was great and terrible because it was the first time that Kobe had agreed to be in a movie. He said, people have used him in movies all the time, but he never agreed to it. And that was the game that he re-injured himself. And that was like the beginning of the end of Kobe. So that was like, I always live with this idea of like Kobe going like, I never agreed to do a movie. I'm excited to do this. This would be fun. Immediately gets injured. And you say, oh, I just, I live with that. Like not guilt, because it's not my movie, but it was like, it was a terrible moment. And he was so excited to do it. But for me, doing that scene in that Pelicans game was so much fun because no one knew what was going on. We didn't show that there was a movie being filmed. I think people thought that Will Ferrell was like a drunk guy at first. All the sports blogs started running with the story that Will Ferrell was ejected from a Pelicans game for being too drunk. Because he was supposed to hit a free throw and then in the middle of his free throw, he like hit a cheerleader in the face with a basketball. And we had to do all this kind of creative movement to get a real basketball out of my hands and put a fake one into his hands. And we did all this movement in the first time when that basketball hit that cheerleader's face, you could hear like a pin drop. There's like, no one knew what was going on. And then seeing Will get dragged out, people were confused. The second time we did it, they caught on, but it was amazing. Still, that's crazy that you could even get that far without anyone figuring it out. That's so away. Well, cause you know, well, no, this is a New Orleans. Oh, it's a New Orleans. Yeah. So I think what was so fun about it was like, there was an energy to it like where people aren't really paying attention to what's going on in the court during the game. And that's why then all of a sudden, they all saw it, they all got shocked. It was great. More pranks of NBA games. That's so good. Paul, this has been a pleasure. Make sure you check out the podcast. How did this get made? And pre-order the book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma. Of Trauma. Yes, thank you so much. You got a book. Thanks so much, everybody. Thank you so much. I'll be back. We'll run it back in a minute. Run it up, run it back. Well, we're officially halfway through the year, so it's mid-season award time. Guys, be the stars I know you can be. Go. First things first. My MVP at the mid-season point. Y'all ready for this? Drum roll. Shay Gilgis, Alexander, Oklahoma City Thunder. 30-30 point game so far. OK, see a second in the West. He's the leader of that team. He's the best player of that team. 15 and 7 against teams that are over 500. A lot of that is because of him. Right now, if he can keep this up, I got him as my MVP pick. For Rookie of the Year, his running mate, his Scotty Pippin, give me Chad Holmgren. 17 points a game. Top five in all statistical categories with the exception of assist. He's number six in assist, but he's playing at a high clip, a bunch of more wins than Winbiana. So I'm going to give him my Rookie of the Year pick, Chandler. Six man of the year, you got to give it to Malik Monk. Who's playing better than him off the bench, right? Other than my guy out in Minnesota, other than that, Malik Monk has been an absolute dog. I think this is going to be a runaway award for me. So give me Malik Monk for six man of the year. And for my top two teams, I am going in the best in the East. Give me Boston. They've been the most consistent, got the best opportunity lost last year in the conference finals. I think they come back with a chip on their shoulders, give me the Celtics last, but not least, my surprise pick is going to be the Los Angeles Clippers. Big time win last night, down 18 points. Big win, come back. And I think that's the point of this team being the best in the West. At any point, they got a bunch of talent, got guys that can fill in. When one of those guys not having it going, they can have somebody else. So give me the Clippers out of the West. I like Celtics Clippers in the championship, but OKC is going to have a big, big year in the World Season. I like it when we have a lot of similarities. Starting with my MVP, Lou. I got Jason Tatum. Really? He's the best player on the best team in the NBA. We've been talking about it all season long. This team, I just feel like it's their year, their prime. Jalen Brown's been having a big year stepping up. The addition of Drew Holiday defending. They're the most complete team. The lack of depth bothers me a little bit, but I think maybe if they make one or two moves, they have the best starting five in the NBA. I got them and him as my MVP. Rookie of the year, I think pretty much everybody has this. It's Chet Holmgren. Me and Michelle are talking about it. It's not really fair with him not really being a rookie. It's the Blake Griffin situation where he got a year of training. He got a year of practicing. That guy has been a pro since he was a baby. Victor has been a pro, but listen, he's arguably on one of the best teams in the NBA. He's their second best player. He's having a hell of a year, so he's going to run away with this. I went with defensive player of the year instead of six-man. I got Rudy Gobert. He's going to be his fourth defensive player of the year, which is tied for the most all time. A lot of people are kind of all over him, this arguably the worst trade of all time. He's really turned that around. He's been the most consistent player, dominating average in 13-12, which is second in the NBA and rebounds 2.1 blocks. 27 double doubles, which is also fifth in the NBA. So give me Rudy Gobert for the defensive player of the year. Dan, same as you. I went Boston, Celtics, and Eastern Conference. I think they're the best team. They've currently a 20 and one at home. We all know how important that is. When the playoffs playoff start and the postseason comes, they are plus 9.7 in the point differential, which is the biggest in the NBA. So I like them. I said earlier, they're the best starting lineup. Some shooters come off the bench. That is a weakness, but give me them in the East and West. Los Angeles Clippers, a lot up and down. People are going to do them make the trade for James Harden. They did and it's working. They're flourishing. They're all playing very well. They have a go-to guide different every single night. They've won 10 or last 12 games. They've only lost back-to-back games once. I like the Clippers being the best team in the West. I'm a little shocked that you both have the Clippers. I'm not shocked. Lou's been pretty steadfast about it, but Taylor, really? You know what? I was all over the Phoenix Suns. I was all over the Suns really, and it hasn't really panned out to how I thought it would. And you think those are the only two teams? Oh, that makes sense. I think that's it. Thanks, Michelle. Yeah, no worries. We take quick break for running back. What about all the other teams in the West? I think the Nuggets are solid. Lou was right. Lou was right. Chandler was right. Everyone was right. No. Thanks, guys. Take another look around the league. We haven't talked enough about the Knicks. Since they got, oh, Jan and Obi, here's some fun. They're nine and two since that trade. They won those games by an average of about 18 points. That's fun, Chandler. Why is it worked so well? He's just a better fit than R.J. Barrett was. He gives this dynamic. He's more of a versatile player. He helps tremendously defensively. And when you have a lot of mid-range offensive-minded guys like an R.J. Barrett, like a Julius Randall, their games are too similar to mesh well. So when you put an OG in there, you plug him right in. He runs the floor. He cuts. He's on the offensive glass. He rebounds. He's just more of a versatile player. And it doesn't necessarily make him much better of a player than R.J. Barrett. He just fits well with this system. He fits better with Jalen Brunson and Julius Randall. So I think it's great. He gives that kind of two-way player feel that they needed. And clearly, they're 9-2 since making the trade for him. And they're a real threat. It's crazy, too. They're number one in offensive rebounding, number two in defensive rebounding. That is with Mitchell Robinson not playing right now. So it's kind of a crazy little set of stats right there. And this was a big splash. This was the big trade that kind of kicked off a couple more after that. Can you expect, can we expect anything more as the trade deadline fastly approaches? I know we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if they have a more significant trade than O.J. Annobey. That might wait till the summer when you see that the trade landscape open up even more. But I think right now, they're more focused on guard help. They're focused on you lose a manual quickly in your reserve rotation. You want to go find a playmaker potentially that can help you out in that role in that a manual quickly role. The other side of the trade was a manual quickly, as you said. He had a lovely essay, basically, about leaving New York. He also had this to say about building chemistry with new teammates. It's like meeting a new girl. You got to take the time to get to know her. You got to take her out to eat, stuff like that. You ain't going to just walk up to her and say, let's get married. I think it sounds like he's in the market right now. No, it's like very 90-day. Does he like her or not? Well, that's philosophical. He doesn't know yet. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't understand whatsoever. Maybe. Really? Maybe it just didn't connect how he wanted to. It's, listen, where's the compliment? Well, the compliment is you might want a barrier. It seems like more of an unsure. Where's the compliment? He's like, oh, let's, let's go on a few more dates, maybe. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not sure about this. I will say, I mean, I get what he's trying to say. It's not easy to get thrown into this, it's not easy to get thrown into this new relationship. And you can see it's taking time. Look in Milwaukee with Dame. Look at the big three in Phoenix. They're, they're. And he wasn't happy to leave. In all of those scenarios that you just mentioned, there has been a statement of some type of excitement. I don't see any excitement about this young lady. First of all, talk to him about the future, about this nice Canadian moment. He's going on the date in the first place, so that's, that's something. Oh, he's there. Okay, yeah, he's there. He didn't necessarily, it was sort of like a fix up. They weren't, he didn't want to go. Okay, blind date. And now he's trying to figure out if he likes it. All right, see, now we're making it. He was caught off guard. Yeah. I mean, he didn't see it coming. He kind of liked what he had going on with this other chick and, you know. You're going to be restricted to the agent. Don't you want to, want to be talking about. I would be saying, I'm like. Yeah, if you can go meet your parents now. I got my passport, yeah, I'm here to stay. You want to say some kind of. I'm spending Christmas there, that's what I'm saying. I don't know, I like the honesty. I kind of love the honesty, I'm not going to lie. Ah, there was a streak over the weekend. 45 consecutive seasons with less than 50 wins. Congratulations, wizards. Hmm, okay. That's the worst thing I've ever heard. Here we go, Charlie. Let's go. Buckle up, guys. What do we do with this? I mean, they stink. They stink in every aspect. They got lucky with drafting John Wall and Brad Beale. It's, and then besides that, those two draft picks, it's tough because they're never going to get a real free agent. It's hard. It's hard to kind of develop this team. You have to build through the draft. You have to build via trade. You don't really have assets players want. I do. I like Kyle Kuzma's game. I think he's a virtual score that can shoot the ball. I said in the commercial break, I'd love to see him somehow get to Sacramento. I think he could fit with some bonus and Fox, but you got Jordan Poole now locked in for under contract. And like I said, they're draft picks outside of John Wall and Brad Beale. Lord. Not very good. So it's a team that has to build and get good through the draft when they're drafting shitty. It's hard to do. 45, I'm just saying it over and over, I'm 48. Like that is brutal. I don't even know how you get up in the morning as a fan and decide to cheer for this team again. What do you do? Just, you'd say rip it up, but I feel like you've done that. Fire sale. Do it again. Do it again. Rip it up again. Do it again. This is a team that we said, well, I had them pegged as a playoff team. I thought with the season that Jordan Poole had last year and coming to the Wizards, I felt like he was gonna come into his own and flourish and that just hadn't been the case. You know, a lot of young talent on his team, it hasn't translated into a lot of success or wins. And so it just looks bad. It feels bad. Blow it up. I hate to do this to you. Is anyone on this team untouchable? The reality is there's one player that is off the table for the Wizards. And that's their top pick in last year's draft, Bilal Kulabali. That's the reality of it. That's the one player that is not on the table, but Kyle Kuzma, Tyus Jones, they're gonna get calls from both of them at this trade deadline. Tyus Jones, I think would be a great addition somewhere. For any team. I mean, any team that needs a point card. And again, there's valuable players on this team that just this collection of guys on this team is not gonna win. But they're like, I would take Daniel Gafford. I got like a big guy like that too. You know, like that. I'm so, this is so unattractive. It's the aesthetic of this team. You know, even though the Spurs are worse, even though you don't have to throw them out. I was gonna keep moving, Michelle. It's just personal. It's Spurs, Detroit. But when it comes to this team, they lead the league in blooper reels. It's just tough too when you're bad and there's no like future either. You guys can be bad this year, because you know the future is bright. You have this freak. How about that picture of Winby dunking on Marvin bag or whatever that was over Marvin bag. Do we see that? It doesn't make sense. Over the weeks. And by the way, we're gonna get into this rookie of the year thing as we get closer and closer. It's not rookie of the year on the best team. It's rookie of the year. He's the best. If you're gonna, in no form, fashion, in any category, can you win an award for being last for nothing? Right, but if you're better than Chet, you should be a better player. Listen, I think it's up for debate. Doesn't Winby have better stats across the board than Chet? Yes. What a good place to end the show. Chet is the rookie of the year. And Chet's an all-star. I'm trying to give Michelle some support over here. We'll be back tomorrow. I think he's an all-star.