 way to start out CES interviews and going straight to the OWC booth and meeting up with Larry O'Connor, the CEO of OWC. How you doing Larry? Doing great, doing great and it is a great first interview. Good to see you again. Well it's good to have your first voice, right? You're all energetic and bright-eyed right now. That's true, that's true. Come back in a couple hours. Y'all are still gonna be this way. Yeah, we'll see you the day after tomorrow. Alright, so what do you have to show us this year? You know we're starting with the simple stuff. You know these are, we call this the Klingon. I mean it's a very, you know it looks very very simple as if you're probably wondering what this is for but people have experienced disconnects with Type-C. You know cables get bumped, they get tugged on and in production environments you know that's kind of a problem. You know this is a device you don't have to have anything special to attach it to, to screw it in with. This will go on any Type-C drive even on the back of a lot of Type-C systems and lets you stabilize the cable so that if somebody gives it a bump, gives it a tug, you don't have a disconnect and lose where you're transferring. So very very simple solution. It goes on the back of anything with Type-C and it keeps that cable from wiggling from disconnecting. So for the audio only listeners we're looking at a little tiny device it's blue it's maybe a half an inch, three quarters of an inch long and a half inch wide that you stick to the back of a drive and then the USB-C connector stays in there tighter? Correct and they can still, now this is not locking your cable in either, it's not a special cable, it uses any standard Type-C cable and also lets you you know disconnect the cable as well. Now we didn't hear this so this is not a perfect demo but nonetheless you have the benefit of having stabilization of your cable and you can still remove and swap cables that will as well. So is it basically just adding some friction to the to the connection? Is that all that is? It's some rubber in there? Yeah it's got a little bit of rubber and I say it again it very easy attaches to anything but the other effectively it gives you that I mean here without it you know you get a little bit of you have play I mean that's there's nothing you do about that that is the port that's not the device you know when you add this to it now you have it in this nice kind of this nice jacket for all practical purposes now it's on the back and I mean it does not have that play now it's stable. And you call that device the Klingon? We call it the Klingon you know we're kind of out of this world inspired so I mean it's it was kind of a clever play on that word so. I like it I like it okay now getting into some more serious stuff everybody's got USB Type-C now and they want to have oh I was gonna go to Travel Docs but we go ahead with this what is this? I was gonna say this is the production this is our Thunder Blade V4 this is super high speed storage update terabytes we introduced generation 2 this year generation 2 you know still gives you all the performance gives you all that fast video editing capability fast ingest fast duplication capability plus it runs you'll substantially cooler generation 2 now you can even stack them and they stayed running cool so it's faster for the audio only listeners this basically looks like he's holding a heat sink I don't believe there's a really a drive in there it's a bunch of blades yes it's all flash update terabytes it's now about 33% lower cost than it was a year ago so it's for some of you need performance so many needs whether you're doing live editing or you're doing ingest you do duplication really quick she can get those files on their way you know this is the product they plugs plays and runs it all that's the whole promise of Thunderbolt 3 right is the promise of Thunderbolt 3 up to about 2500 megabytes a second sustained oh my gosh you're making that number up I'm not making that number up get a burst of 2.8 gigabytes a second so very very very fast very very fast and then of course you know the products that they'll let you do all your work you know when you're on the road you like our travel doc you know it works with the iPad Pro it works with any MacBook Pro MacBook Chromebook you know PCs with Type-C and that gives you a couple USB ports it gives you HDMI 4K video out and I think something's really really important in addition to that you have an SD reader as well it lets you plug your power through it there's lots of there's lots of products out there they call themselves docs it really aren't docs and they're not docs because they're not power delivery enabled so when you need to charge your laptop you can't use the port that your that your hub's plugged into with the with our travel doc you know you can plug in through that that is this is a true power delivery enhanced enabled dock so you can plug power through and you can charge your book power your books you know while using all the ports you don't have to disconnect it when you need to charge and that's a big difference between a dock and a hub or a hub I was wondering what the definition between the two was because they get used interchangeably quite a bit yes they do you know hubs are pretty dumb docs actually in the case of power delivery enabled doc it actually knows what power is actually communication the computer you know what power is being drawn by the different ports what the devices are to the system intelligently is aware of what's going on I hear a lot of people whining about having to have all these dongles and everything but to me this is magical that I've got got a USB Type-C port on a MacBook Pro and all of a sudden I've got HDMI out I've got an SD card reader I've got each US to USB a ports and power to charge the thing at the same time I mean that's that's amazing you couldn't do that before it's unbeatable takes one port at all these ports and you can charge to and you can take it from your MacBook Pro to your MacBook to your MacBook Air to your iPad you're ready to go until they need to get the phone in the in the game then we're all set right after and that's coming but for under 50 bucks you know it gives you for on the go gives you all the ports you need now when you get back to the office get back let me tell them real quick to the audio listeners this this box is only about a half an inch thick three quarters maybe and I mean smaller than a deck of cards and it's really really light so that'd be really easy to toss in your bag and it's under $50 and there is nothing in that price how much did you say under $50 under $50 street price typically around 39 and there's nothing in that price range that supports that true power delivery which is very very important there's not glad you said that three times because I kept hearing 150 under 50 under 50 you know what if he for 150 I think there are products that there are proxy costs about that they don't do what this does but under 50 bucks $39 street you know this is great for being on the road and then when you get back though but get back to the house get back to the office get back to you know place where you kind of you got your whole setup going that we have our 10 port docks which include the other owner power sorry pulled the mic away from them holding it up now sure this is our 10 port doc this is type C you know this gives up to 60 watts to any laptop to an iPad pro to a Chromebook anything again with type C so this will give you power and charge and run your system and then for a little more heaven this is up to 10 gigabits about one gigabyte per second sustained transfer throughout all the ports combined is what it supports I'm turning around to see the other port oh look there's a what was that called again that Klingon Klingon on the back all right so it's got three usb a ports we've got a type C is that that's display display on that one oh it's got display port also yes the SD card on the front and headphone jack and another usb a gives you everything so you get home one cable plugs in I mean for power for audio for usb devices for your video your network everything is all right there and it comes with the issue my adapter but for folks that have many display ports you know Apple send them to this place and such plugs in direct native and we are and this is I don't want to go super technical but we're DP plus plus whether it's on our usb type c doc or a Thunderbolt docs and what that simply means is you don't need an active adapter if you want to connect to HDMI or VGA or of course Apple's mini display port it does the work inside it's already got that capability versus being a dumb display port I don't mean I needed that a couple years ago yes we've always done it that way because in the Apple space I mean people expect that you know you've had display ports a max for almost about for a decade until those displays never die ever they last forever the Apple displays right they never died and all what to do with them right you just keep on using them but the ports the adapters that everybody got with those machines were passive because all you had to do is you know if you want to plug a VGA DVI HDMI whatever it was there's a very just a passive kit because the system was doing all the work and of course we maintain that so you don't number one you don't have to worry about copyright issues you know all the how to say that the encoding is is passed right through because the chip's doing the work you're not doing an active conversion which and again I'm going way into the weeds but we like the weeds on my show awesome those don't work for you but yeah what's the price on this one this guy Street is 119 119 wow 19 and includes that includes a 60 watt power supply actually a hundred watt power supply that'll give your computer 60 watts so here's a question I always get tangled on so I use a MacBook Pro it's got an 85 watt power supply I can so use the 60 watt it just takes longer right absolutely positive correct the treasure is yes you don't need to have an 85 watt out the charges your computer can take 85 watts but it's happy with 60 as well I just on a lark I tried charging my MacBook Pro using the charger that came with my new iPad Pro and it worked it took all night but it worked that's a lot yeah that's like you know 25 20 25 watts don't we're in there much much slower than this even so you've got two docs here so what is this one called it's just our USB C doc I mean that's it's our USB a 10 port doc I mean we try to keep things simple I mean that's that's what it does it gives you 10 ports of great connectivity one cable connects you 10 ports to the world this is not a Thunderbolt doc no but this one is well look at me just being your straight man here straight woman as we move right on yes down the line you're leaving me right on I like it this is our 14 port doc you know this is Thunderbolt 3 so you take full advantage get the full advantage of the 40 gigabits big Thunderbolt 3 offers so it's got type C ports you know for 10 gigabits it's got the back you of course have your network ports you have video you've got I mean you've got it all by frankly digital audio that I missed ethernet that I miss how to say a second Thunderbolt 3 port a mini display port with DP plus plus again so you can support everything you know very natively very reliably I missed it is that 10 gigabit ethernet or gigabit this is gigabit ethernet you know 10 G we have I don't know who's got 10 gigabit anyway but I just wondered it's funny you should ask you we just acquired Akidio and the Akidio pro doc has a 10 G ethernet port so I saw that announcement that's interesting you know it fills in I mean it's a real complimentary how do I say coming together oh good good so we're very very excited to how to say to integrate those products into our line and if I frankly come up with even better creations now I've been reviewing docs I haven't reviewed your Thunderbolt 3 doc but what is I think we should the thing I found interesting was the ones I like the best with ones that had the most usb 8 usb a ports because at this instant in time I have so many usb a devices but I have a feeling over time I'm going to be spitting on those and wanting the ones that have more usb c probably well the type C is we get into the the gen 1 I'm sorry the gen 2 type C products where you get faster performance the connectors nice you're the only goes in you know it actually goes in one way both ways love that you can't go wrong that way the only problem with is you have to look in the end of it to find out if it's late in your usb c still yeah it is kind of if you have Apple yet they have the iPhones and things like there is a little bit of similarity there again back to we need to get it off the iPhone then everybody be happy yeah well most pricey type C in the iPhones you'll come this fall so that's what they're saying huh it's crazy I mean man why don't they just start similar to there but I bet the spec wasn't ratified when they started right it wasn't but it's been around for a couple of I'm not gonna go to Apple say it just we went from the dock connector to lightning and now we have a whole new if we were running Apple right indeed indeed all right so this is the Thunderbolt 3 dock and what is this oh it's also got we didn't say SD card and micro SD on the front for your gopros correct and that's all you HS4 so very very fast readers just wait just for okay the speed yeah the high-speed readers I mean you're getting that you're getting you know five six and I'm sorry four 500 megabytes a second it'll do from a capable card and this guy's 85 watts so your full power on a MacBook Pro or any system the needs that extra juice so do you want to have fast charging that's really important I mean this covers that as well and food for thought I mean most people to use docks you come in you plug your computer in and then you're working I mean it's gonna be there overnight it's gonna be there for while you're home I mean few people come in I mean it was interesting our previous dock only had the 60 watts but it was something else certain people get all up oh my gosh it's only 60 watts it's like are you coming in gotta have that fast charge for an hour and then you're running right back out the door probably not yeah I don't think I've ever done that you've been on the road you're coming in you're plugging in now you're at home base you're gonna be there for a little while you I mean unless you were told unless you thought about in time that you never would have known the difference yeah yeah I bet not absolutely the ring 85 out and just to make it very very clear the reason our original docks for 60 watt you know the power delivery spec only supported 60 watt initially you know there was not ratification support for above 60 watt that Apple would approve oh I did not know that okay so what's it ratified up to now now we're 85 watts full out take me okay well I need 85 watts now and we got it more and we got it you got it all we feel the power and the USB type C part of the US I'll get it yet type C port in the front is USB C 3.1 is that what that says 3.1 gen 2s you get the full 10 gigabits out of it and of course you get 15 watts all a third of all three ports all USB gen 3.1 gen 2 ports put out the full 15 watts so you can fully bus power whatever you're gonna plug into there and that's very very important it's something else but you talk about a lot of USB type A ports and USB ports in general you got to have the bandwidth for them and we make sure all these ports have plenty of bandwidth and we brought it going all the way back to our third of all to doc that was a differentiator you know people put lots of ports on them but then when you try to kind of you know put them all together you need to actually access simultaneously you find out that there's none of bandwidth there okay you can do live video streams across all these simultaneously you can max out your drive performance or you can use that Thunderbolt gives us 40 gigabits and we make sure that 40 gigabits is wherever you need it on our doc so the last sorry oh the that was the last question I want to ask you is how much is that gonna cost this guy is $2.99 so the standard price that Thunderbolt 3 docs are coming in at yeah that's just that's about the standard price for you right but there's nothing out there that this sleek and with this many ports in that price range I mean it's this is price really really sweet for what it does very good well thank you so much for your time Larry I really enjoyed this I'm getting the I'm getting the news here from Steve so tell people where they can find for the three people who don't know where OWBC is where can 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