 Good afternoon Joanne. You've been willing to share your teaching online and open up your classroom space to others. Can you please tell us more about your philosophy of teaching and sharing? That's a pleasure, thanks. I really do believe that knowledge belongs to the whole human race. I think we've gone through so many ages when knowledge was locked up and under the domain of the ownership of certain people but the whole technology revolution has done something wonderful and that's given everyone the ability to learn something and the ownership of that knowledge has really been let free into the into the public domain and it's so easy to get that information out it's not locked away in a book it's so much easier to get and that means the duplication of it is so much easier if you had to if you had to reprint a book you could only do so many copies of it to to redo a video or to put a video on another platform it's so easy it's an electronic file it just gets transferred so the duplication is so much easier and that means we can spread it to so many more people now unfortunately if we could just give every human being broadband access and unkept limits on the internet connection that would obviously be wonderful and I think that is a bit of a problem that we deal with in the world in that there is a divide between those who have a lot of bandwidth and those that don't that that's the only little problem I see but we've got to go beyond that one it's really not something that we can't fix it must be fixed and we've got to look at the big companies and big governments to fix this for us but it still means that that knowledge is there and everyone can have access to it and and knowledge is power as far as I'm concerned it empowers you to have the knowledge and just to have that ability to give it to someone without holding on to it it means nothing if it's just locked away in my mind it becomes so much more powerful if I can share that with someone else as they and that just gives me a great sense of accomplishment and really satisfies me as an academic just to have my knowledge is given to other people thank you Jean and as a surgeon how has this influenced your practice how does it influence my practice of course I'm an academic practice which is a bit different from from private practice so it is part of my job to to put knowledge out there but it's given such a wide spectrum of my ability to teach in the old days you might have come just to a classroom given your lecture and walked out but video material online material makes it so much different you can ask the students to do all that beforehand at their own time when it suits them go through that material come to class fully prepared and almost used to you now you're not a stranger to them they've already seen you that also makes a difference and you can then engage with them as far as the knowledge is concerned and it's not I tell you something now and we will all walk out they come there they prepared and we can discuss the topic at hand versus me just dictating to them what I want them to know and they try and keep up by jotting down it's a whole different dynamic that you can bring because of this but the the biggest beauty of it probably is the fact that they can now learn as and when they want as it suits their lifestyle it might not be they might not be in the best frame of mind at 10 o'clock this morning for a variety of factors and they will only hear me say these words once when they come to the lecture and who knows what they missed at 10 o'clock that morning but if they can rewatch this at a time that suits them I think it brings it brings so much more to that learning experience I also do believe in this dictum of at first you are unconsciously incompetent you don't know what you don't know the first time you read something or hear something you become consciously incompetent in other words at least now I know this thing exists I didn't even know that there was this disease before now you know but a couple of days down the line you're going to forget this you've got to repeat that to become consciously competent so you know the word but you actually have to think about it to recall it and eventually if you've gone through it enough we all know the 10,000 hour sort of rule to become expert at something if you've done it enough you become unconsciously competent but that's only repetition that does that in coming to listen to my lecture just once does not do it but if you have the ability to watch it over again and the way that it suits you and the time it suits you I I don't think it gets better than that and lastly Joan you spent a lot of time creating these videos what has facilitated your production and what has been challenging for you challenging probably is the time time constraints there's service delivery is always the thing that we are concerned about in medicine and that has to be done so you've got to find the time to do these things and fortunately it's obviously not the same for everyone who tries to do this it's going to be your hobby it's going to be something that makes you happy to do if it's a chore it's not it's not going to get done now fortunately it involves toys cameras videos software computers and that's a nice hobby to have for me I enjoy those things so bringing that all together is a form of relaxation for me it is it is my hobby or at least one of my hobbies so it's never ever a chore and because of that there's always time for it time is always found for it and you've got to go through a learning phase I'm not a creative person myself I have no idea how to interpret an expensive museum piece or a nice painting so I've got no design abilities but I see what other people do I try and recreate that in my own way so that that is that is a bit of a learning curve and new software that comes out all the time every time you want your videos to be better so you go for a higher level of software and you've got to consciously learn all the new versions of that that comes out so there's a bit of that but once again if that's something you're interested in you will make time for it thank you John wonderful when your interest and your work combine and thank you for being a leader in the field and being so willing to share your knowledge that's wonderful to be part of a team and university that actually has some interest in this in this arena and it's it really is the future of teaching thank you thank you