 Yeah There's a podcast It's me much. Yeah, I'm out in the woods. I've been straight after two couple of days now the woodland Creatures are be my friends now. I was on the plane and now I'm here Where's this podcast is a podcast about all of my good friends here where they come from also like high low slow or bold They're all here. They draw things. No, they don't they draw things with their voice That's what they do they view edit. They're good people here. We go big not been saying he's last now. It's Nate man Hey guys, I'm the best guy ever. Just oh natural here naked. We have two Thompson Hello, I I just made a new animation. It's a week old by the time you listen to this, but it's still good It's still fresh check it out It's uh that what that is it's way to hear she comes Hello, I am three Ken now There we go. We have the digi. How long since you've smoked Less than five minutes What Oh I'm keeping it all natural. I'm not into not in the laboratory produce chemicals I'm keeping it. I'm keeping it in a chair with my with my sweet cannabis weed I'm smoking a fat bag of bowls here. I was wondering how long it's gonna take until someone mentions weed. Well, zero I was waiting for everyone to say their piece Okay, okay, so here we go with fucking nature with fucking nature. Here we go Oh Christ, oh My recording just stopped it just stopped. It just really it just stopped It okay. Hold on. That's not good nature. Here we go. It's nature. My audio is better now Good job for noticing that one audience nature. Do not Flanderize me is my first point about nature. We're not gonna do the The dictionary thing because everyone gets mad at us when you do it now It's it's now like a taboo like people don't like it for some reason no one gets mad And we have to read this definition because it's the best definition. There's ever been all right. Here we go I've been dictionary definition nature and erection Listen listen, okay little boy on waking in the morning mama. What's wrong? It's sticking up mother to her son That's okay little man. It's just nature Here's how I define nature I define it as the enemy it's it's the thing that we are all put on this earth to defeat and subjugate Someday there will be none and that's that's when I want to live Sad relationship with nature It is evil and I know that I know I know in my heart of hearts That that I have I have more negatives than I have positive, but it's just so deduct It's so seductive in most of its ways It always tries to lure me to its green vile grass But I have to I have to deny it access to my true heart What do you fucking you're sound like a robot? That's like in the middle of malfunctioning right now I can barely understand You gotta take I'm a part of big pharma We've been cutting down all the forest so that we can make more pills so that we can calm your fucking nature problems So if you're having a problem or nature And I like literally the only one who loves nature in this I'm gonna go. No, I guess I do I Like nature. I just I just realized that's awful in every way like I like okay I have a big point to say about nature, but here here Let's rate nature like like like like I'm gonna say like six or seven. I'm gonna say hard seven out of ten for nature Okay, I'll give nature like a solid nine. I find cool shit outside like all the time Yeah, I give I give a nine out of ten as well needs more purple though I'm gonna give it Light eight needs more purple is the same reason I wouldn't give it a ten incidentally, so I'm with you on that one page. I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it a solid two I mean, I think it did Did some good things in its day, but I think that it's been far surpassed, you know It's been iterated upon and rendered mostly obsolete I'm also going to give it a two Nate the only reason it even gets a two is because it spawned me and My compatriots here, that's about all the good. It's done nature is the final barrier holding humanity down from reaching its true Potential once we surpass the limitations nature has placed upon us like our own mortality We will be un unburdened by its by its primitive bullshit and we can achieve greater things than we ever could before I'm interested what Nate will say. I wonder what his rating is You know because it would go to show from what we know about him that would be low You might have expected me to say that I'm not a big fan of nature and that I only care about human progress and evolution and you know Advancements in the scientific field But there is an aspect of nature that I quite like and I quite like how it affects the value of two stats Usually increasing the non HP stat by 10 percent and decreasing another by 10 percent You know like the nature of of your average like you know a fly gone for example Can make a big difference is whether it's turny viable or not So in that respect, I find nature to be a very valuable force It's it's a lot of people criticize it for being overly complex and obtuse not making a lot of sense in terms of the Ghazam kutzwerk of the gameplay, but I'm I like it. I like it still though before we continue on the subject of nature I'd like to introduce a new segment really quick. It's called It's called a Ben Versus Ben. Oh Here's a clip of Ben St from episode like ten or so of the PCP where we're talking about probably sequels or something Huh it iterative works can never be as good as the original Originality is the most important thing for a form work of art to have Iterations can never live up to originality move it fast-forward at Ben St. 2018 Nature gay well, you know You're onto something there. You're close to truth And you would have a point except that nature is not a work of art because nature was procedurally generated by an algorithm Is nuclear throne not ours is that we're trying to say the out well nobody nobody made the algorithm Wait, I mean no God made it you stupid idiot Not did you not read the instruction manual a K the Koran? Um wait shit? Okay, all right back to you Nuclear throne is a work of art But any individual game of nuclear throne is not because it was procedurally generated nature itself Every single run is not our where's the art then where is it in the algorithm? It's in the algorithm You just said if anything the algorithm should be the opposite of art because the algorithm is the part that is procedurally generated I agree algorithm is not procedurally generated the algorithm is static. It's it's the it's the instance Yeah, yeah, right from the algorithm the algorithm was crafted by a master craftsman Yeah, yeah a god among men Well, there we go. We solve nature. Okay. Okay. Here. Okay. Here's what I want to start this off with Here's my big point here. He just straight to the point use my main weapon first. I want to I Like nature and stuff, but I know how I can make it better and here's what I want to do across all the land I want to Amusement park of a fine nature. I like seeing trees. I like to breathe and I like seeing Relatively small animals ones that cannot pose a threat to me rabbits a bit too a bit too big I want to see like maybe like a snake or something with no teeth. That's what I like I want there to just be like big sections of the the nature, you know forest desert, whatever Like like completely, you know taken over by man and turned into like nature light with all all the edges Smooved and there's like pathways over I want to walk into a forest like on like a street And I want to just walk on the street like have you ever been to Disneyland and like in the in the in the fucking What was his name the the adventurer guy the guy with whip that part you just like walk around you're like in like a Jungle type I want to be in a I want to be in a roads Watch yeah, I'm totally on your side. No, that's not that's not nature enough much. Yeah I'm totally on your side here because I think all you need to do this is the one-stop solution to Make solving nature making it fucking awesome for everybody Debug nature exact. Yeah, I feel yeah, yeah, and by that I mean remove the bugs The only but someone removed is like mosquitoes No, man recently so during the summer times You know I moved into this new place up in fucking New York And I just there's a bunch of paths near my house like really nice paths through just the wilderness Basically, that would be fun to run on every single day if not for the fact that during the summer It's completely full of these giant flies that love just landing on you constantly So if you try to walk down this path You just constantly have flies landing on you and it's so fucking like Maddening that you can't even walk on it and then in the winter. It's completely covered in snow Digi, I agree with you though. I want to have a slightly a slight compromise because I love Bugs I'm a big bug enthusiast, but I do agree that they are like they are sin They are they are what makes bad things happen. So here's what I want to propose may reduce the the population of all bugs by 75% but increase their size by double So you can just like you can walk into like like a cave somewhere and those be huge Is how small and sneaky bugs are so we could if we could annihilate that factor if they were just less bugs But they were all a hundred times their size that would be that would go a long way to making me more willing to accept I mean you want spiders big enough to eat you you want spiders big enough to consume you to get trapped in a giant Spider, right? She's right. They're bugs, but no we're not that but there aren't insects. They're still bugs. I think they are I would consider bugs bugs is bugs is bugs is cultural bugs is culturally. Yeah If even a bunny could be considered bugs then the doors The term bugs is social construct made made made by you fucking hominid Overlords. Yeah Yeah, yeah, so so okay, okay, so yeah, like like like what me and did you're saying is like well I what I'm saying is I want to like get a soda in a force. I want to like walk through a forest I want there to be like a sidewalk on there be like ropes I want to be able to like, you know walk over a ravine and be like wow what a cool ravine But I'll still be I'll still like have a gun. There might be like some like torches nearby There might be like some kind of tendon. I want to be able to kill me Animal that tries much like this you can Yeah, but I go to the safari two minutes for my house actually I can't because this is far easy where I live But that doesn't count. That's not true. It doesn't count Near every forest there's like to be every forest It's like places like that that they build over like a marsh where you can like walk on like a bunch of bridges and shit And just be like whoa, it's a marsh Sick dude. Okay, you know, just be all nature. That should just be all nature. They should just be better Okay, what's your whole show? Okay? All right actually I want to say that it's interesting You mentioned that munchie like I'm imagining all of nature having paths and basically it would just mean that there was like roads Everywhere like the whole country would just be walkable So that would be fucking awesome because I imagine like walking cross country would be fun if it weren't for the prospect of like I have to either walk on the highway or Fucking navigate numb and just everything's a road and there's beautiful scenic nature around you There's still just one thing they could still be I want I want that I want this to be like 95% of nature what we're describing is just roads everywhere and like little turnways you can go But but also there should be danger zones like like Fuck you jump like for the for the high the high ranking adventurers Like it would still be like Want to die you want the world to be structured like an MMO where literally that's literally what I want Yeah, yeah, I wonder you'd be like high ranking zones for if you like get like a license if you apply at the DB You can get like a like a good boy. Ha ha like a rank and you can go inside these devilish caves Those will kill you. We're touching on something. I think it's important I mean I like I like this idea for improving nature But I think the single biggest thing that nature is currently lacking is drops like You know the problem is that nature actually has quite a few drops, but they're very difficult to find they don't have enough They they haven't like the the designers did not I don't think that nature was was very well created as like as the Skinner box, you know Like it was gonna box loop is not So few and far between They've all been collected at this point. What what is gold other than nature drops and they've all been collected You're right. They've been mind people when the last time you got a gold drop. I personally have never got look What we're doing a problem is right now is we're just waiting for this the zone this planet to reset and that's when the next Asteroids gonna hit everything's gonna reset The drops are just the drop rate is just so low that I just don't feel engaged with the system I don't feel engaged to continue where you're grinding though like if you go to like an apple orchard in the autumn then Is that someone building like a farm on their land it's literally Yeah, but I mean yeah, but like yeah, you can get tons of drops there But you have to build the farm like you can't you can't just wander through a like random forest and get tons of Yeah, blueberries and you can get mushrooms and stuff. Yeah, you know, these are all good points I've got one of the best rare drops of all time. I'm just saying is my elated Arab gentleman who just That's a legendary drop Digi I want you to say that story immediately, but instead of immediately after Nate You know what I'm gonna launch it a whole thing. So he should just go first. Oh, okay. Did you please? I remember the first time you told me this story I was in a fucking Skype call with your ex-girlfriend and the most it was the most it made me late It was the most ingenious and incredible thing I've ever heard in my fucking life It was a story arc and I still I still have the file of the image You sent me all the ladies gentlemen called the video games are dead on my computer right now Still have it well since I was trying to remember where I had told this story before it It was only in a patron exclusive podcast. So I guess I can tell it here. Yeah, so one it's a simple story one day I was at Some function my mom had to go to the school and I went with her I had to walk home Basically, it was like a long walk like a two-hour walk and I was just like fucking I want to walk so I'm walking home and I'm on the side of the road in the middle of an area where It's just forest on the side of the road like a 45 mile an hour road and forest and on the side of the road Is this giant cardboard cutout of what I can only be described as an elated Arab gentleman holding a cell phone Looking like the most relieved phone. Yeah, a flip phone and he's got like the most relieved face in the whole world He looks like he just finally got reception after struggling, you know, but he's like literally wearing like a turban and shit Like yeah, so I just find this cardboard cutout. It's only the top half of his body Just sitting on the side of the road and there's no possible building it could have come from nearby Like it wasn't close enough to anything So it had to have come out of the back of someone's car or something or just been thrown there But I don't know the source because there's no like labels on it Like I assume it's from like a sprint store or something I think it might say sprint on his phone, but I mean Yeah, I'm I just picked it up and I took it home with me and nailed it to my wall and That's now one of my most prized was incredible You can click on the link in the show notes to see to see the image. We're talking about TV. Oh boy All right, all right Nate, please I beg you we are at your will. We have bent our knee, please Okay, here's what I want to talk about mage wait No, no, no, I'm I just want to see beer at back someone's like knocking on my fucking window. All right Kill that gremlin It's good, I wanted to bring up I recently saw a video by a guy I quite like on YouTube It's one of my ASMR boys this guy named a federal rift and just listen to the name of this video Okay, here's what it is. We belong in nature in parentheses civilization is cancer I hate this guy already Listen, he's he's very woke on a lot of issues, but he is He is like the biggest That I've like ever encountered in my and it is very unfortunate Okay, so this whole video is him it's you can go what and okay? You will see this video if you go search his channel. We belong in nature civilization is cancer. It'll be in the show I there will definitely be a link in the show notes I have a gigantic comment that I left on this video Under best gaver you'll be able to see it there and So he basically talks for extended period of time. It's like an hour and a half long and that that's fine of Why? Like human civilization has gone too far and we have strayed away from like what he might He's talking about how look we right now are all like lonely people where we're too capitalist, you know We everyone cares about that. We can all agree with that name that we're all too capital Yeah, well, of course, of course, but look I'm willing to it can see there are there are issues here But basically his point is we should literally all be living in nature We should be living in like small tribes The way that we did originally and it is his idea that like we should really go back there and he he's woke Man, he accepts the fact if there's gonna be some problems with that It's not gonna be easy But he thinks that is the best way to go and of course in in my comment I point out what seems to me like blisteringly obvious facts like okay Well before we had like civilization a lot of people died from diseases that we now have curious for So what about all that do you want like all these pregnant women to just die in childbirth because you know like Debatable will be great Debatable this civilization. He's talking about would be great for like jaded guys like him who are really fed up with their 9 to 5 jobs and this guy's a very successful youtuber So I don't even know if he's gonna be with being way too. Wait wait wait wait wait Nate Nate What I need to interject here because I have no idea this ephemeral rift is let me show you a screen cap But from the video would go on So he is he's a successful youtuber. He possibly makes his living off YouTube and his solution is to Get rid of all civilization and wants to go live in a cave and like The entire way that he's he's being able to broadcast this message. He's spiting this guy That's like this guy looks like Ben Sates cartoon avatar himself, but with a beard This will just be Ben Trying to shit on this guy. He just looks like Ben saint with a gray beard. Yeah, that's perfectly fine I this will also be in the show. It's better The audience I think I think I'm changing my mind. I think I'm going over to this guy's side I think me and him are just gonna go live in a hut somewhere I literally like ephemeral rift a lot. Nobody go bully him or say shit to him You could but politely disagree if you do so after watching the video don't even just take my word for it Watch the video first um So So many people put this the idea of like nature and like old civil old human civilization on such a noble savagery Exactly and to me it is it is clearly because guys like this. I you know, I watched this guy for years I know his full backstory He like had to work a shitty nine-to-five To like get himself to a place where he could like support like his wife and kid and he's like this guy He's pretty depressed a lot of the time He's got depression like he sees all the flaws in modern civilization. He's very woke on all those issues But what he's not focusing on enough in my humble opinion is the way that millions of people died in Extremely preventable ways in the olden days, and I do not think we're necessarily better off just the way all the modern That's that's what I'm saying the nature metagame is broken Had to update it The patch is so obsessed with the aesthetic and the romanticization of nature and it's like oh modern society has all these problems We need to go back like that's the equivalent of saying modern society has all these problems. We need to magnify them exponentially We need to go forward further we're in an incomplete Guys are not mature looking at how to deal with these issues All right, let's what we I think we can all agree I don't think we all need to like fight hard on the side of civilization should exist I think this guy's opinion is rather extreme, but uh guys like this are more rampant than I'm comfortable with they are more You're more rampant than I'm comfortable I Don't think we need to like throw the baby out with the bathwater and be like oh fuck nature just because we I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm just saying that these I am like hyperbolic Extreme nature worshiper guys like that's not the solution either. It's not where we'd be going My understanding is like like the like okay if you want to say sure like human human civilization was a misstep Retarded, but okay, you can say that if you want to propose that we go back to nature like after Like having cultivated these cities if you want to be like practically say okay go back to nature now That is probably the most stupid fucking idea I've ever heard besides being a porn monger artist in under a month besides that This is You know we've done things to this planet that like we can't like we can't really like come back from like it would be weird to like well You know what sure you know the thing is Try and be tribes again that would I don't I don't believe I don't believe that this guy actually believes this I think he's trying to to put on airs while complaining because there's nothing stopping anybody from just going and living in nature You can just drop off the face of the planet people do that if you want to go just go do it Just go take your family and do it, but he's like no man. That's these fucking commies man They want like ever they need everyone to do their shit or it's a fucking problem No one's stopping you motherfucker just go do it stop trying to drag everybody else down with you Oh my god fucking pisses me off and I disagree with literally none of the complaints that he makes in his video I agree with 100% of them, but the his proposed solution is Retarded is completely retarded agree. Well, I want to almost as retarded as nature itself I want to get on to talking about nature in a positive way because I'm looking at the background of this guy's I like nature and you know, did you you're the problem? You're romanticizing aesthetic that looks pretty Everything if you is nature is good because it has a good a second nature is great because it is because like I'm not saying you can see it can be like no, you're not saying nature's good You're saying aesthetics are good and I agree but actually being there is awful looking at it Being there shit. I think nature is felt ten times stronger by being like especially of a forest like this like This shit when you see these in images They all look exactly the same because every forest is the same shit Especially if you're in a forest that's like in town It's probably what I refer to as a septic forest where it's basically just a small creek That is where all of the fucking septic tanks empty out and then Like just a bunch of fucking trees, you know for and like a narrow probably a narrow strip Like you can't ever get deep enough to not hear cars But that's like most of the forests and like suburban America and I used the high-level mob spawn because the excess of Toxicity, you know, yeah I used to explore those forests all the time when I was a kid and just like play with sticks and fucking You know pretend they were samurai swords and cut trees course fun times, you know, so back before iPhones That's what you had to do. I never had an iPhone, but uh the the forests were like You know, I would just go exploring it with my friends And that was some of my like most memorable times because I grew up real sheltered and like exploring a forest was like Whoa, I'm on it fucking. I'm doing something away from home. I'm fucking getting out, but You know, it's like five feet away. It doesn't make you puke. It doesn't make you fucking cough and gag wherever you stand You can go out there. You can fucking breathe. You can see green occasional come across like some like creepy bug You'd be like, you know, and then you'll touch it and poke it a lot I mean the first time I ever went out to the mountains and like stayed in a log cabin out in the mountains and Heard nothing because it's just quiet and you're just like what the fuck It didn't even feel like the same earth like I didn't know that like reality was supposed to be quieter than what it is Nature can be very enjoyable. Have you guys spent a lot of time camping? Camping story that I want to say I actually love Well, I want to get through I want to get through my forest aesthetics thing because here's how I enjoy the You know, I got into exploring as a kid just because it's fun But later I got into black metal and like at the same thing Well, almost all black metal is like about how beautiful nature is and destroying human society and organized religion in particular And and like paganism and shit So like if you listen to like Agilot's all their fucking songs are just like about fuck like one of their songs The probably the most famous which is called In the shadow of our pale companion is a song that is just about a guy wandering the forest having an existential crisis And like so if you're ever wandering a forest having an existential crisis and you put on this 14 minute Agilot's log while you walk around. It's like the most aesthetic experience you can have in your hometown Is his pale companion white privilege that you need to smash? I think it's God. I well same difference I guess I've actually listened to I not the same thing But I've listened to another album about like like fucking angry white men from Seattle getting angry and putting on silly voices Tell me about how cool nature is that I also did like by kithkin Rituals trances and exes for humans in the face of claps that look that up right now I actually click on the link of that that was good. I like that that was that was that was also Fucking twinks from Seattle doing funny voice Portland thank you very much Literally this name one difference between Seattle, Washington, Portland, Oregon, Portland is weird So is Seattle a mount of homeless people. Okay, that is true Okay, okay. Okay. If I have the floor for a couple minutes here. I would like to talk about my sixth grade camp Because he's my sixth grade camp was the worst week of my entire fucking life I'm just gonna explain what sixth grade camp is for the people who don't know maybe live in shit countries Like like America or you know bread and shit like that disgusting So okay, so through campus you enter sixth grade and then you go on a camping trip somewhere around You know the beginning of your year to Accomplish nothing really that it's just fun I guess so so I come there and the entire like week before I'm draining it because you know I'm a role-player on the internet and I don't time for things like trees or bees or any sort of bullshit like that I don't want to leave my precious laptop and all my malware ridden fucking like ad-laced web browser I don't want to do that and but but I'm forced I'm forced to I'm forced to so I have to go I get on the bus we go there and we're in the middle of fucking Nowhere and it's all fucking scary and and all we do besides sitting cafeterias where there's like no electricity It's all fucking bull, you know electricity that I can use that there's it's all Horrible food it makes me fucking sad and what we do day and day fucking out is we hike We hike through fucking treacherous mountains if we're dangerous fucking, you know pathways I see I see like a bear at one point. I see I see what are the dog-looking things? Well, I see one of the dog-looking things cats. That's really our big cat Yeah, and it's fucking terrifying, but but I came to an epiphany of why I was there I looked around and like you know because I was a fat kid I was always behind and I was lagging behind I need more water than rest of people So I was drinking and sweating so but I came to realization that that around me was pretty I liked it, but I just needed roads. I needed civilization to assist me in Observing nature. I liked being out in the hot blistering Arabian Californian Sun I like that But I wanted to do it on my own terms and as a human my own terms was destroying all of the genuine Sincerity of it and making it like an amusement park. I needed concession stands. I needed roads I needed fucking torches. I need tour guides if I had that then this would be great If I didn't have to like use my legs Well, nothing lying you know not as a not walking if I didn't have to like jump up and like fucking cross for Veins and fucking you know Jump as far as they fucking could and that would be great if I could just walk places It would be perfect. So like I like nature. I like seeing the dog things. I like seeing trees I like to be able to look up mountains and be like wow, that's a mountain But I don't like being in danger and being scared the worst thing in fucking sixth grade camp was like the second to last night We're like we had to like walk in the dark We didn't we didn't hike this time we like we like walked to a nearby museum But this nearby museum was like like through a a beaten off-road path and by road I just mean like there's slightly a section of this like grassland that does not have grass on it It is just dirt. It's still it's not an actual road. It's just you know dirt and and and the tour guide We had like a guy because you know we were all babies, but he didn't do anything He was just like yeah, they're like snakes around here So if you see a snake well bye And it was terrifying because it was in the dead of night and to walk for like a fucking mile get this stupid museum I just look at dead things. I hate dead things. I want to be alive and that's why I hate That's why I hate nature. I mean you live in you live in California, and there's a bear just on the flag of California like yeah Bears are there's extinct in the woods. They're out there. They are out there. Yeah, like sometimes you're ready to kill Yeah, they'll they'll just come to you and murder you it happens It happens that's that's the state of nature and it's awful and should be abolished But if we had roads and torches and guns Nature would have to bend to us. Yeah, I don't and that's my No, no, no, you I think people have a lot of human guilt and so they feel like oh no I'm oppressing these bears. Uh fuck them kill them. Don't care. They die Look, this is what we need to understand about nature Do you remember like a few days ago that that did you see that the story that was going around on Twitter of the Lady who kept pulling worms out of her eyes Yeah There was this lady who had to end up going to the hospital because she kept pulling She felt something wriggling around in her eye and and she could see it So she got it and she pulled Let's be our pulling your stories like that worms out of her eyes and they had they had to surgically remove like 12 of them from inside of her eye and the reason it was so fucking terrifying is because there was a parasite that does This that before this case we thought didn't affect humans That's what I said had some intersects of our or that is nature. Okay, fucking And her name was wife of undertale. Yes So so so this is what nature is nature is like, you know, fucking like arachnids that that capture things and then like Inject them with like see like fucking poison that melts their organs from the inside out and they drink them up This is nature For a moment while we're on this topic because I don't want to I don't want to trail off from this topic and then be Unrelevant and you on this topic. So there's also like these maggot things that eat rotten flesh but they use medicinally so that to save people's like limbs and stuff to to like because They're put on on the rotten flesh to eat it away And they do it so cleanly that you don't have to like hack off the whole limb You just you just get rid of the rotten flesh and stuff so in that sense those sort of things help and Leaches to help in the back in the days and I think they're still parts of the world where they still use leeches I thought you just things about it that are useful and and and that I wouldn't I wouldn't say that yeah We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but it's not reaching its full potential on its own It's like guys also also garlic is like the universal Antibiotic, okay, I thought you're gonna say anti vampire, and I was just like You've got me there mage. I want to start up a debate with all of you About the word nature and more specifically the word natural I want to know where you draw the line between what is natural and what is unnatural? Because when we talk about like natural foods for instance like they always advertise themselves like oh This is natural, which means that whatever is not this is not natural But like what is added to the so-called unnatural version? It's like it could just be pesticides or like you know something something else So the even Even even if you get a non GMO apple which GMOs we might get into that bullshit But but even if you like you know a pure apple untouched if you get them today in the in the year 2018 that is not a natural apple that that is a man-made construction Yeah, even it's even in its most basic form we have domesticated apples and pigs and stuff So even if you like get a pig and be like I want to roll around the dirt with a fucking pig That's not natural So you can't rare my friend. I'm just curious. Would you say? You lean what more towards less things should be considered natural or more things should be considered natural because for me I feel like I feel like you know people talk about for instance plastics, and they're like The oh, that's man-made. I'm like what no it comes from a plant like plastic is originally I think when people use natural Obviously know that when people use natural in that sense They're saying things that don't naturally like things that don't occur without like having to be produced in some way by Yeah, I mean we're saying that though. Let me say about plastics. Yeah things about plastics though Like if you put them like on the ground, they don't go away and they hurt the environment So it's not natural in that sense like something It can't reproduce it can't continue without humans. No, but yeah kind I guess but also like There's needs to you have to be careful about what you throw away because you might think oh banana peel is natural and you throw it away Oh, you know, it's not gonna do anything But that's the thing if you throw it away on ground that doesn't naturally grow bananas and stuff like you know Like you know, I don't know in America certain certain parts of America. You can't grow bananas It's not really good for the environment because the thing doesn't naturally occur there So it's not natural for a banana peel to just appear there So it's hurting the environment as well not as much as plastic though, but you have to be careful about those That is decomposed. I mean like life finds a way, you know Plants plants will just plants will grow in plants would grow in in just fields I was really with plastic shrapnel. That was the only choice. We've spoiled them Learn how to eat them plastics one day. That's why we should there's already Bacteria or something that does and I was reading another story about like in Chernobyl There's like fungus that like break down radioactive material. Yeah, see I think the problem is the reason that the earth hasn't like adapted to our trash yet Is we haven't given it enough like we got to train the earth We got a dump as much trash everywhere so that all the plants can learn how to take care of it Well, you gotta think about how long How long if plastics even existed like maybe 200 years in the entire lifetime of the planet earth Hey real quick question a quick major question for you guys. What is the what is wrong with weeds? Why are they worse than not weeds? It's just I don't Yeah, they they strangle like the growth of other crops and also it's just an aesthetic problem because they look different Yeah grass because like I like all plant like all life Strangles out and chokes out other life in order to eke out its own existence. What makes a thing a weed? That's strictly nature itself. It's not a specific position. You people are arguing for strangling That or is it that weeds have really aggressive like Jeans like weeds will overpopulate a Turn it into not good plants anymore, you know, that's the thing like weeds most of the time They're not useful for humans and they also like that. Yeah, they're very aggressive and they kill other plants So they can repopulate so they're very invasive and stuff though on that point I want to say dandelions can be useful in many ways and I don't think they should be considered weeds necessarily though They are a bit aggressive Plant considered undesirable in a particular situation. There we go. There we go. That's what I'm saying I I googled invention of plastics to try and get like the date of when plastic and the first goal result is Invention of plastics by man is a crime. All right. I have a very I have a very important Suggestion which is that we all adopt weeds as a new racial slur And it just applies for you. No, it applies to all races It's just whoever you don't want in the room at the moment is the way I like that They got to pull the weeds out of this room, you know, it makes perfect sense. I fucking like that. I Might use I might cop a feel on that There's too many meanings for weed now Well, the the the great thing about using weed is that you don't have to use any specific racial slur Because it'll be understood like let's say you're in a room with your friend You're at a party all black There's a couple of Jews at your party Oh, you want to tell your friend that we need to get rid of the Jews But you don't want the people around you to know what race of people you think needs to be removed from the party So you just say we need to pull the weeds and your friend who is also an anti-semite Will know exactly what you're talking about in there Or they assume that you mean like it's time to pull out some weed and smoke it because You would never say weeds with an S if you're talking about smoking weed. Well, maybe they're stupid No one refers to a plural of weed It could also be used for not racist attributes as well It could also be used for that if you wanted to it could be like, you know If you're in if you're in the room with some fucking black press. Oh Well, never mind. It's it's a lost I mean what's important about the term weed is that it is complete Well, like we it's like George Carlin said like people say like the earth is dying like the earth is dying But no the earth is just an inanimate object full of life and what we really mean when we say that is we are making our Environment uninhabitable for ourselves plan. It's gonna be fine. The people yeah, it's just a rock It's just a hot rock Indeed indeed It's dumb when people like personify the earth be like the earth cries out in pain No, like it's this thing about I hate how people like make it all about something else when they're Actually talking selfishly like I'm 100% willing to admit I only care about the earth in context of like human civilization and my own you know Environment around me and the environment of people who I care about a little bit a little that's what matters That's what matters. I don't care if like in 10 billion years We have all ported on our civilization to Mars and the earth just explodes like I'll be like, well, that's a shame But I don't actually care at all I Be upset if the earth just spontaneously was like gone and you know, we were alive elsewhere on Mars I mean, it would be a bummer, but I get over it But the point is that's not the most important thing. The important thing is humans being alive That's that's what actually matters and furthering civilization Etc. Etc. That's what actually matters. That's why if emerald rift is a very silly boy It's a very silly I can see him hiding in the the Martian bushes out in the nowhere in a Martian loincloth Having a good time Hey Nate, Tom, you people might know this like it is there a way to make Mars green Is that like a thing that can happen or will it always be the way it is? I mean, I weaves more atmosphere. We don't we don't know how to do it, but we want to you know That's literally like could there be a way you'd have to introduce like different gases into the atmosphere And do a bunch of other stuff Speaking about planets. Have you heard about a planet that like it can sort of be inhabitable by human life But only like on a various sliver sort of of it because it doesn't rotate. So one side is too hot The other is too too cold. Oh, that's dope. There's like one sliver. This is just perfect But it's in constant like twilight. So like the I think that the like it looks kind of like hell because Star Wars Hazard and one that's so hot. It's like a monster pond. Yeah, I think that develops their own racial slurs That's my home like the hot ease and the cold ease on opposite sides of the planet That's exactly what I was gonna say is they're there because they're totally would people be people who would go on the dark side of that planet No matter what so there would totally be a class divide because you know They would ship all their fucking groveling street origins to the dark side like huh a fucking dark You just came lights like you know what we go to fucking targets down here get these fucking weeds out of your kid Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that would be that would be great Okay, okay, we've brushed up upon and what is what will now be the big thing we argue about is Environmentalism and the planet and global warming and Al Gore. Did he invent the internet? Yes or no? Probably yes. Yes. Who else would be smart enough to invent the internet. Yeah, I don't know anybody so so so what What level of? Commitment and responsibility do humans have to take care of the planet. Do we have any responsibility? Or is it just all like we should do this for our own sake or do we have do we have anything to give back to the planet? Is there any sort of moral or virtuous argument that can be made to why care like like why I mean I Like earth it's good if we have to live here forever We should take care of it But like the earth is gonna die one way or another like everything else Fuck it Yeah I think it's very important We're not gonna be ported to Mars our whole civilization for for a very long time if we if we make that shit happen So I would say it's pretty important that we take care of the earth I'm actually pretty pro environmentalism But at the same time you have to consider the it is true that you don't want your environmentalism Okay, completely crush your your you know economic show of hands who here will always walk all the way to the trash can Throw something away me me Rises pie always do I have I pocket my trash and wait for until I find a trash. Oh wait You mean as opposed to just like throwing it on the ground. Yeah. Oh, I mean I just leave it all over my desk and then I thought you were talking about it makes its way to the trash eventually Yeah, you're talking about making sweet like long-range dunks of my no I'm totally doing that. I'm saying when you're out if you're out somewhere, and you've got trash And there's not a trash can anywhere around. Well, you carry that shit around until you find a trash. Yeah Doesn't is a fucking asshole. Okay, so ever everyone in here's a real good boy. What about cigarette butts? Would you throw the I mean? I don't know if anybody You even have to consider that cigarette butts don't count in the same category already makes you a bad person right off the bat I'm just asking how all of you feel Nate or Ben. Would you toss a cigarette bus on the ground? I would toss a cigarette, but like on a sidewalk. I would toss it in like an literally why literally why on it because I yeah Yeah, I would stop on it. There's how does that hate? I just hate it when people throw it down like like lit cigarettes on the ground Fire on the sidewalk so much you degenerate piece of shit smokers. You should all fucking die. I have no patience Brothers names Cigarette butts on the ground like a fucking asshole. I have a special license to live I have a special items It's okay. I'm saying in like urban areas like those those streets get swept There are sweet streepers that sweep up detritus on the streets So why not just throw it in the street? If I'm a vapor if I finish my vape I can just smash it on the fucking ground and moonwalk away like that's fine. Yeah It's gonna get swept up who gives a shit if you can I'm not because the street sweepers are coming whether I do that or not But in the meantime people are gonna step on these fucking butts and be like you grow Oh, no, I would even notice who me every day. I walk and I see in in the street Ben it just makes it dirty just makes it less play just makes it less Don't do it. It's literally littering and it's not okay dirt is dirt is just is purely aesthetic. It's not even real Elecric for people wouldn't litter I hate seeing litter all over like fucking just just just like just carried a little bit Or just just throw it into a bit It's really it's funny because the reason I asked that question about the cigarette butts is that I will always go out On my way to throw a cigarette butt in a trash can unless there isn't a trash can But I ain't not carrying it around because that shit will make my pocket stink That is your advice not smoking that'd be my suggestion. I don't smoke anymore anyway, but Have a little Particular drug no, I don't smoke tobacco cigarettes anymore Just have a little That's like a huge ask that's a kind of oh god, what a what a we wouldn't Forbid I take responsibility to my own hands Forge my life to be this one second ago. I was like fuck the earth and you were all like, okay And I was like cigarette butts on the ground when I can't find a trash can and everyone's like oh Hitler like The earth has no long-term significance, but while it's our environment it matters incredibly so I'm just our shit Let's not fuck it up a cigarette But on the sidewalk is not like detrimental to the earth If you say you don't vote and everyone says they don't vote then no one votes exactly I mean, that's the same. Yeah, that's right. Um, I don't care. I think you got You are aesthetically pleasing. Well, what you gonna do now? I I will okay, okay, Ben You are wrong, but I will say that I do like this is this is a vice of mine But but you know like this is like a this is like a porn fantasy. This is like a degradation fancy I like dirty cities. They're pretty pleasing to look at if I if I see like a like a city a grungy looking city in a Cartoon or a video game. Yeah, I'll be like It's like a sewer open like some steam coming out and I slip on a puddle of dirty fucking muck and cum Then I'll be like yes. This is what I live for. I like to see the smoke scared side I want to see smoke fucking fill the skies. There's no cloud. No, so that's what I want Factories everywhere and here's a good rule of thumb to operate yourself by in these urban environments If with whatever you're doing if Rorschach walked by and saw you doing what you're thinking of doing Would he beat you to death if the answer is yes, then don't do it And that's exactly what I'm a cigarette on the butt of the world would be using using Rorschach as your moral compass Yeah, that's right he did nothing wrong he did nothing wrong Shit on Rorschach right now. He's a fucking psycho dude. What? Everything he did He was the best guy. He was the best guy Another vice of mine Sometimes like like, you know, I'll say like, you know, I want a museum parkification. I want all that by the way hashtag I mean parkification for That like I like Occasionally, I'll still be like, oh, I'll like a read a creepypasta And there I'll be like an evil clown man in the forest. Don't be like, why don't we just get rid of forest? Why don't we just like have we don't make oxygen to balance? Yeah, but we just make you know, like tanks of oxygen and just like make them respawn a lot somehow Those clowns will move to the sewers Oh We already have co2 spawners. They're called trees. We might as well just use them Yeah, we need for us so we can exile freaks like where are we gonna send them? What if we could have what if we had natural? Concentration camps what they were in the forest and instead of like killing them I could just be like, okay, go back to me now You're all you're not now. Okay. No reservation is or something And so lights in the forest though, it's not dark and creepy That's a good idea. I I have no problem with that. But look much you we need Lights just on all the trees in America Lights to line the top before all Christmas lights and jungles. So right here's how we're gonna put them up We're just gonna like we're just gonna have like a bunch of fucking kids like with string lights It's just like run around the forest and just like run between trees So we can get lights on them and get rid of kids at the same time two problems solved at the same time I like it We go we get the United States Air Force to get a like a giant net full of Christmas trees We want to utilize the native population I've got a two-word solution for this t-shirt cannons That's how we do that's how we modernize t-shirt exactly That's us. We're gonna get them Good fucking okay. Okay. Okay. I Love nature and I like it. There we go. That was my point and I didn't actually have all right Well, this podcast is winding down. I think About trees but it's kind of boring after all that all that discussion do it can compress it into two sentences Well Because like I really love nature and especially love trees when I was a little kid I loved trees so much that like if I accidentally like broke a branch or like to took some leaves from it I would out loud say I'm sorry tree and I would do that And I would make my friends do it and they would do at least around me. Oh I feel so sad whenever I step on a snail I once felt guilty for like a week because I had it like I had a snail and like it and I went on a bus And I was holding the snail and and it fell out of my hands and and then I I actually raised snails as pets But that's beside the point at this point in time of the story It fell out of my hands and some guy stepped on the snail and I felt so bad because like if I hadn't brought that Snail with me it would still be alive and I just I just cried Draw fan art of major snails. I want that I had I had them as pets and like I Fet them a little bit of carrot and they freaking loved the carrot and it was really cute. Wait, how big are the snails? You have small very small their garden snails basically how they can eat carrots Well, yeah, they know I'm a little bit. It was adorable. Did you just a little crazy? No, did you ever race them? What did you ever race the snails? Race yeah race, you know make a speed against it when I was a kid. Yeah, that's what we used to do We would pick our snails and we had little snail races just like an Undertale Was there a big snail cultured with the lady? Every kid have their own decked out personalized snail. Yeah, they were like Beyblade of Lithuania. You would put them in the arena You would knock the other snails they became a very many different colors and stuff. So I my favorites were the pink ones They still are Snails are way more diverse where you come from The shells okay, okay, okay Okay around around Boston there were some really sweet like spiral shell snails crawling around people's gardens and stuff around here in Georgia All we got are slugs and I hate them. Oh, they're really boring as well as being gross They're just long and thin they look like worms, but they don't move speaking of worms. I also had worms as pets at some point. I Really like nature This is a good said way. This is this is not extremely topic viewers This is a real thing. I want you this was it on my note. I the big day. I want to say animals animals in nature Let me quickly. I love sure about grasshoppers another thing I am not sure if they're called crickets or grasshoppers. They were tiny the small ones the small colorful ones Whichever those ones were grasshoppers Yeah, so they used to be like okay so there used to be this small field by my Neighborhood somewhere and it had like super tall grass like Pokemon tall grass and I was I would sometimes go there during the evenings when I had nothing to do during the summer and they were like Grasshoppers and stuff and I would capture them But you know like I wouldn't like capture captured them with both of my hands what I would do I would like Bendo Lean over extend my finger to the grasshopper and usually it would like hop away But after like two or three times the grasshopper would just climb on to my finger on its own And I'd be like hello little friend and then I would stare at it and it just had fun with it And once I'm done I would like let it let it hop away and that was rip off its limbs one by one No, so you feel powerful for once in your life Eyes Hopper that was like black and red and was fucking edgy and I loved it and I Sadly later on I learned that the only lived through in the summer and I was really sad the next year It's like I miss my friend. I Wish I had a fucking edgy grasshopper. I wish I had like an edgy buggy that was my companion I would take them on adventures. That's Far more than I have Is there that's too bad. There should be an edgy bug in Pokemon a Scizor There's kind of edgy not edgy enough though. He's a Love edgy things edgy edgy things are the only thing I fucking live for that's why I like the trolls and homesick So they're fucking edgy and stupid and they're violent. I like it Okay, hold on Not real here's what are real animals. I take digi I take umbrage with your hatred of animals Animals are fucking great. They are incredible. They are a net positive I wonder if in time a bugs don't count cuz fuck bugs but but but big animals real big mammals and fish and shit I fucking love you know why because they're always Terrifying there's not a single animal does not make me shit myself. I walked into this each wall while fucking dead I would say you see a bear slightly less scared, but still extremely scared Animals are fucking a beast of the land They are beasts and they are terrifying and the and animals come like like animals are Humans are animals. We come from this land of beasts and disgusting awful scary like like cthulhu type Monsters that are snails and dogs. We come from that barbaric age and we have conquered We animals have conquered and we come civilized and cultured and incredible And now we now we control the beast land now we control the the the the the weird awful Archaic a beast land and we are the masters of society. We have done it We have conquered animals and that's what's beautiful amours whenever I walk out and see a snail I think wow we've done it humans have gone so far We've escaped the clutches of nature and we have done it. I hate animals We you know it's fair to remember it's fair to remember that we have no Animals fair enough great. We have no contract with the animals and I could take them or leave I've never Numberless are good You need to get closer to your microphone. You're not like quite overpoweringly loud We have made no accord with the beasts of the field and so it's easy just forget that they could just murder us at any time They do not respect us like cuz we are on dogs so much dogs been bred to be like weak cowards But like you know not the fucking a pigeon but you could just fucking claw your eyes out Actually doesn't give a shit Nate it's interesting you mentioned dogs because I was reading about dogs and apparently there's like the reason We were able to domesticate dogs is there is actually some sort of like Like mental condition or like genetic disposition the Antony that makes you like be friends with everybody and like people can get that too But like that's the thing we bred in dogs That's why dogs are so friendlies because we gave them all like mental condition. What I heard was that we continually bred like So neoteny is the trait that is like when you display like baby like traits And so like dogs propensity for like cuddling and just like being friends with everybody very much comes from when they're babies And they just like don't know any better And so like with with dog breeding we just continually bred like the friendliest of the friendliest dogs It's like just make them the most you know, you know domesticated and so they just did that forever now It's like all the dogs all the you know domestic dogs just like The only dog I've had excellent prolonged experience with was one of my ex-girlfriend's dogs It just shit on the floor constantly and I wanted to kill it Well, that's a war there's a dog. It's your owners. No Before we go down a dog hole, I just want to say He planned for pigeons is Heptobismal, I think doesn't that make their stomachs explode. I had How do you get the peptobismal in their stomachs though? I've heard that when people throw rice at weddings that birds eat the rice And kills them I'm thinking of seagulls that if you give them peptobismal they'll like explode I still don't know how you get rats or like it like if rats drink soda it can kill them because they can't burr Just contingencies for if a pigeon comes up my fucking eyes like Nate was yeah, you know If a pigeon ever puts me in a self-defense situation, you know With me then I will I will defend myself. I will legally defend myself I'm not saying that like like animals are pacified. That's what I like about animals is that they're not pacifying They're fucking dangerous and violent, but we as humans have the tools and knowledge to like like, you know Sure, like if a pigeon just like I was just walking on the street a pigeon could like get a claw in but I have a big fist I have I have a fist and I also I could have a gun if I wanted to I could carry like a The problem is that we let our defenses down and they could theoretically Okay, I'm sure I'm sure they wouldn't I'm just saying animals are dangerous and again, they are beasts That's why I like about animals is that they are beasts. See I got monsters. They're modern monster. Listen contingency plan number two You got a hawk get a Glock, you know Aren't unpredictable forces of nature anything they usually give signs of their aggressive or they're gonna attack with something Just like a boss in Dark Souls just like in Dark Souls. Yes You just have to watch for signs my biggest criticisms of why of animals is that they have too long of wind-ups before their attacks It's boring and uninteresting. It's not it's not good. They need to work on that I'm not saying that like major. I'm not saying the animals will attack me I'm just saying that like we have the power to do that and that makes that makes it feel Me more a little bit more confident like going out and like touching animals because like I know that I could kill them I want to I don't want to I don't want your animals. I quite okay real question I just know that I could it makes me feel safer real question If you were attacked by a vicious. Let's just say pit bull. Do you think you could beat it? Do you think you'd live? I think it would be really hard. I think it would be really hard I think but like like when humans like if you're a cornered human, you can kill most things Humans like like like like like they have that badge and paper Mario where if you get below five health You're like attack spans right all humans have intrinsically you can do crazy shit when you're about to die I often wondered if a pit bull bit me on the arm or something And I just all I could do is like try to punch it in the eye or maybe gouge out its eyes or something I feel like if the dog was Even a bit smaller than you that you could probably beat it Yeah, unless it got the drop on you and like tore your throat out or something. Is it fucking teleports behind me and Just like all under The dog I feel like there's a chance it's gonna just fucking take your arm off if it bites your arm But I also feel like if you punch it in the face enough times you can knock it out. That's the question That's the question. You'll probably lose that arm though I definitely think I'm like like the bigger dog gets obviously the less your chances are but like a pit bull like sure Like it's dangerous. I don't I think I think we'll both be at low hp by the end of it But I think I think I think any human could overrun unless like a baby I don't know dude There was there was a pit bull that like started attacking kids in my old neighborhood and I remember yeah because they're kids No, no, no, wait wait the story's not over yet And and it became like this like legend among the cops So the cops had to come out and fucking like Like put it down and they shot at the dog and the bullets bounced off its skull Yeah, dude, holy shit, they take it down or what they eventually got but like I mean you shoot at other places It's not as like they had to call in fucking cloud strife to do omni slug Finish Yeah, it was fucking insane, dude, dude this someone edit please like this dog as sephirah Also while you're at that edit just like find a gallery of guys who've been mauled by bears And just edit all their photos to have the phrase should have rolled on them Should have rolled man should have rolled I I I I agree you can tell but I think that's like all skulls like like humans can like survive headshots to the face like like under weird They don't bounce off though Bullets bullets are specifically designed to blow up your skull. That's like why they were made No, I'm just saying like under extremely low-circumstances like some like like there have been people who are survived headshots Because of like this specific weird way that it happened Like people people like like what happened the people could happen to a human if people kill themselves They generally shoot, you know like inside the mouth up so that they you know really fuck themselves up That's the weakest point of your skull. What is the temple? Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's what I've heard I've thought a lot about this whether it's best to go with the inside the mouth or the temple approach Like imagine how inside the mouth inside the mouth is gonna be grosser But but what's gonna be grosser though because I want to be as least gross as possible I've actually considered the whole shooting yourself in the heart Then don't use the gun. No, that's the gross. I don't want to shoot myself in the heart because I'll probably feel it I don't want to feel that's what I was like you brain yourself like a minute or something I'm pretty sure you'd man. I think about I think about what it would feel like to get shot in the head all the time Oh, me too. I was doing that yesterday a bunch All the time But there'd be a moment there where you would feel it happening and it'd be like, oh my god It was like time is like slowed down and you like feel each individual piece of like the shotgun blast No, the worst invading your brain from inside your mouth What does it feel like to have one's brain violently like destroyed all the time I just want to say this is what nature leads to ultimately too much nature leads to this kind of overexposure suicide If you hang out around trees enough, you're gonna start thinking about which one will hold the best rope the best Yeah, that's true I believe that's why people kill themselves in the yeah in alki gahara and in greenland like they're they're always trees fucking It's too far everyone in greenland spends too much time in nature and not enough of civilization So they have the highest suicide rate in the fucking world last time I checked and so yeah, don't do it Don't do it. We need urban sprawl. We need hip hop blasting from every window. We need only Only the most civilization you can get Hip hop is at peak civilization clearly Yeah, it's true. I was I was hoping that did you would be like explain why he doesn't like animals, but I guess Oh, do you want that? Nobody has to go for it unless you asked while I was on the tour like I went to pee What great earlier. No, he did Anyway, uh, well, I mean, I don't like animals because they're annoying and They can't talk like they're fucking boring. They can't be negotiated with Everything I value about humans is the ability to have conversations with them Like that is the main thing that other humans can give me other than like physical contact And I don't think I would want physical contact with a person that I could not like communicate with It doesn't have to necessarily be verbally it could be in text form But like if I can't communicate with somebody I'm not gonna want to like hang out with them and have you know And touch them or anything Animals just want things and they have no sense of moral obligation Yeah, exactly like my cat fucking my you know when I lived back at home We had a cat then you lived in the same house as cat She fucking just at any time of night if she wants something she will come make you do it She'll wake you up She'll meow at your door all night until you wake up and come do something for her because she doesn't care about you And like she doesn't can't comprehend your needs. She can't make compromises because she can't Then Yeah, I mean, yeah Why should you sign up? Why should you sign up for a relationship that is completely one-sided that you are expected to provide for this other animal And this other animal is not expected to do anything for you and I get that you might like it I get that you might like what they do It just irks me that like what they're doing is just what they want to do and if that happens to please you Then so it goes, but like they're not doing anything for your sake Whereas you're doing you're providing for all of their needs that that legendary dog who came to visit his master in japan Every fucking day even after he died Hachiko yeah, like the most legendary dog who ever lived I visited his statue. He's a fucking god But how do you account? How do you account for the he just wanted his master? That's like saying obeying Well, okay, you're you seem to be putting like like thought and like Responsibility over just like natural inclination Like like that makes it like more moral like you are more I'm saying that I can see why that's like good Like if a dog is naturally inclined to love you and you want love like I get why that's appealing It just bugs me that there's no that it just bugs me that the relationship is so one-sided But I would argue that every human only does what it wants to do. Yeah But we can guilt humans That's true. That's true. I think you guys are thinking about this all wrong Animals are not humans. They're not meant like that their their function is not to have ideas Their function is to be aesthetic and provide sometimes practical benefit to humans, you know Like like oxes or dogs or some stuff those are both aesthetic And provide like practical application with a dog You can train to fucking kill things, you know For if we're back in in early in early times you can train to kill things That's a practical benefit of it. But the main thing for me is aesthetic I just like seeing again beast. I like seeing dangerous monsters roam about and and do their living It's it's terrifying and it fills me with like like a gladiator lust for either killing it or making it kill things for me That's what I want from my animals I agree that animals are not like, you know, they're not conversationalists But that's not what I'm meant to do. No, don't get me wrong. I do not classify them as humans I understand the appeal of animals like I get why other people like animals It's just that nothing they have to offer really does anything for me because all I like to do is smoke weed and have long conversations and make videos And fuck and animals can't do any of those things all whatever they do Well, the last one you can't not legally I Most states I should say They just can't consent is all Did we want to talk more about nature? Do we want to move into questions because I got some questions pulled aside? I'm feeling pretty good. Okay. But anyone want to make any closing statements here? Anyone got any final words? How should I make a parkification? Sorry to say that again Okay, never mind. It's fine. No one say anything ever again Mozilla fennekin asks what it's now. Hang on. Did you is this coming from the legendary patron lounge? Oh my god If you patron anything to the pcp I think or dollar one dollar one dollar you get into the pay one dollar you get patron lounge And that's where we get all our fucking questions from Um, because it's easy and cool Mozilla fennekin asked what's the most you're willing to spend on a single meal? Hmm $20 $20 unless it's like an occasion if it's like a festivity or holiday then I'll be then it'll probably be like 50 or 65 if I want to flip it can be muchy. Is that for just you or are you paying for somebody else? That's what I was gonna ask Does it ask the same thing? Well, you know, you're right. You usually what I am flipping it is with someone Let's say let's say everybody What's the most you're willing to spend on a meal both for you giving me both for yourself and for You know a group if I was like treating a party and it was like a special occasion I would probably spring for like up to maybe like 100 to 150 dollars if it was like a real big if it was like a An event If it was just for me, I mean I would only pay more than like 15 dollars and that's high Like I would like to pay five dollars for a meal for myself at any given time But if it was if I was out and being socially pressured and everyone else was doing it I might be convinced to spend maybe up to like 20 Yeah, the absolute most I could spend for myself is 20 I'm with Ben. I would I would go 20 dollars to the absolute max. I want to stay around five ideally Yeah, if I'm only social pressure can compel me high if I was gonna like spend money like for Me and like a significant other or something. I have spent like 150 dollars before But I was not aware that it was going to happen And I was very disgusted by it and I made a point to say this is never happening again Um, I I think like again if it's in a case if I'm if it's in a case if it's like Christmas But I'm the only person left alive is they all over two weeks to to see me through Then I could probably go like 50 dollars If I really wanted to make a big deal. All right mage. What's your answer for this? Well, it's basically the same as you guys Did you you're the only one besides maybe Nate who makes significant amount of money So you're about to be like I'm going to go like four figures deep on this shit It's not just about how much I make but that I regularly spend money on food like that's where a lot of you know, the money I do spend goes But I want to know because I know Nate's thrown down pretty fucking hard on some meals because he and I went to a restaurant Where I spent like 75 dollars and you spent something Close to that just you know what I found I I definitely uh, there have been times more more recently when I'll go to like a really nice restaurant that I've like never done in my life for like A year ago, uh, and those are pretty expensive sometimes that's pretty rare But what I've really found is just um that my like sort of base level amount I'm willing to pay for a meal has just gone way up and like I just don't really care anymore because I've just I For me, it's kind of just like what do I want to eat? You know like yeah, if I if if I want to have a fancy dinner With my girlfriend or my fiance, you know, we're just going to go out and Like it's going to be whatever it cost like for valentine's day We went out to a place next to my house is 150 dollars total It was great And I've had Oh, you let make me laugh. Well, I tell you like when you when you actually do I mean like I've I'm Very much a stickler. I always have been like I used to be real cheap about going out to eat and that's why I like exclusively ate fast food for a real long time and Then basically it's just if you can afford it and you're willing to spend the money It's like Food does kind of follow like a rule of the more you pay the better it tastes like you see my my perspective It's fairly straightforward most of the time like that meal I had That was 150 dollars like granted in terms of portions and everything No, it was not at all worth it like if you're talking about how much is it worth to get full tonight Not worth it, but the food was like I literally had never tasted something that tasted the way it tasted You know and like for me that's just that sheer uniqueness of experience makes it worth having paid for at least once You know, obviously, I'm not going to go spend 150 dollars on food every night But um, you know, it's nice to get to experience like this flavor palette that can't really be explored by anyone less than a talented chef You know Sure. Well, yeah When I went to jack ruby steakhouse or whatever the precinct is like the best restaurant in Cincinnati Like I never imagined a steak could taste as good as what they made there and they fucking did it They they did I didn't even know that was a real thing. But anyway, sorry time I'm I'm just I don't know paying for food is something that I try not to do ever And just I mean I like food But like the experience of eating food is is ephemeral, you know, it's fleeting and like once you've done it It's over and so like the fact that I invested money in it and now the money is gone Well, Ben and the experience was never gonna last anyway There's a lot of studies that state that say that people ultimately find themselves more happy with purchases they made For experiences rather than possessions because when you have a possession around you'll constantly look at it and judge it again Like I hate most of the crap I own in my room Like all the shit that's in my backdrops for all my videos and shit Because a lot of this is just dvds that I'll look at and I'll be like I spent like 100 dollars on that box set And a I've never watched it and be like, you know, I don't even really like the show that much anymore because like You know, it just sits around reminding me of how much money I spent on it and how if I had that money back I could be doing something different right now But if you just go say to again a fancy restaurant and you have a great time All you'll remember about that for the rest of your life is I went to a fancy restaurant I had a great time You know, like I'll never forget me and Nate go into that restaurant because I'd never been to any place like that Before and like we were fucking getting waited on by like Like wind and dine the guy coming up pouring our fucking water for us and shit and we're like, yeah, you know, it was sick How dope was that scared italian at anime expo did you name? How dope was that scared italian who would like give us Oh that guy it was it was amazing. It was the best. He was incredible. It was my favorite person I like nice food. I just I just wish I could afford it more often Well, most of what just quickly though the burger king has like really awesome milkshakes the one So it was not a bad deal. I quite like Because we had to wait a little bit. We got like big milkshakes. So Nice most of what I actually eat is cans of dark red kidney beans Like boxes of salad protein powder and then like chicken breast and broccoli salad. Yeah They've got these like plastic containers of salad at the at the kroger I'll just go buy that it's got a big fucking thing of spinach. I'll just like munch on that for two days It's great enough about your diet. No, wait, wait, wait, wait What much is it important? What? Yeah? Yes. Yes, it is important I I I want to talk about food more because I love food I I've been been you said that the experience of eating food is fleeting and I agree And this is why I hate sex But food is different than sex because food you can have it like you can like go out to a restaurant You can have it with other people and we'll be that's we can have do the sex never mind I'm saying is that restaurants are good and I like going to restaurants I like people to talk to people eating food and talking to people and the experience of being out of your house Out in the world eating at a restaurant. Perhaps there's restaurants You've never been to before at a new restaurant with your friends talking about the day you've had and the experiences You're going to have munchies. That is far better than ever sex you could ever have Restaurant take that you you pop into that 7-eleven and grab your food and then you take it out into nature And eat it in the That's how you fucking have a good idea. I thought you're going to say take your 7-eleven go to a fancy restaurant Guys picnics are such a cute idea. I would love I You know, there's there's like a big yard right on there. We should have a picnic That's a good idea. That's a good idea Probably maybe you can't promise off topic. Can we do radcon four in england? Like main shows up to radcon four. She's like, so can we do another picnic like you guys did at the last one? I'm like, no The idea is Yeah, the moment's past. It's over We're all about uh, we're all about um, um, we're all about uh eating eating soylent now Yeah, by the way, uh radcon three arena is confirmed everybody This will be the first time the Kickstarter is now over and not only is it confirmed But the first Kickstarter tier is already fulfilled. It's unlikely at this point. We'll have gotten the second But maybe it will who knows man. We'll see already. Oh, wait. There's two. Yeah It ends in like four days from today on on the 21st. I think yeah, I thought there's still a lot of time left Uh, well, whatever. Anyway, uh, I mean my my Kickstarter spiked like crazy in the last couple days Next question is from dry bones dry bones. This is one of my favorite questions. We've ever gotten on the show By the way, uh, would you consider yourself above your dad? Could you defeat him physically or intellectually? Not physically intellectually. Yes, not physically. My dad's very strong Uh, I thought you didn't even very very very hard no No one says I know my dad and that does not make it okay That doesn't make his crimes any less potent. That's my dad My dad it is an old geezer, but he's so fucking strong. Here's what he does He hikes with rocks in his backpack and every month he adds a new rock to his backpack What the fuck? He's been doing this for years. Is he a fucking martial arts training or something? He has like 30 rocks in his fucking bag or like like a ton. Do you talk a show training shit or something? It's fucking crazy. He's insane. Well, that's awesome. He's powerful, but he's also a fucking idiot. I can see where you got your power from now Yeah Thank you. That's really sweet. I feel like this question has a bit more nuance in my situation because I'm his daughter It's like who what father want to punch his daughter, you know As opposed to this father just want to punch your son Most you could beat him physically because he won't hit you. Is that what you're trying to say? Like I the thing is I don't want to hit him either. So I don't know but you have to mate She's coming at you with a gun. What are you gonna do? It doesn't say anything about having to fight them It just says can you defeat him physically or intellectually? I okay physically Most likely no, no, I wouldn't even though I'm taller than him. No, I'm not. I'm a I'm a squish boy Intellectually probably he's quite close-minded He's very averse to new ideas and stuff. So probably I could Against new age, you know beliefs don't let yourself just one box Like everyone's gonna do that about their parents because that's essentially what I was gonna say about my dad It's been probably as well My dad is a very smart man. Well, Nate, you can be so weak But Nate you could definitely beat your dad physically, right? Is he at this point? Yes at this point? Yes, not for a long time though for a long time. I know everyone's kind of scared of their dads I think including me to some degree. Yeah, our our dad is fires Storms and our dad is a is a fucking intellectual fortress. If nothing else That's for sure. Well, let me tell you why you've all played yourself on this Because the question says could you defeat him physically now if I have to fight my dad one on one hand to hand No, I can't beat him that nigger roads marathons and bench presses my more than my body weight And I can't bench press more than my body. Well, maybe I don't know I don't know how much it's like an impressive amount to be able to bench press But anyways, he fucking he's a strong man. However, could I defeat him physically? I'm good at setting up traps. You know You're gonna home alone his ass I'm good at using weapons. I'm good at fucking tricks Version of the quest, you know me and me and my brother victor used to fight in the backyard all the time Well, you ran your marathons. I practice with the blockchain Yeah, exactly worked on on feeble aesthetics. I mastered House I vlog exactly So so like me and victor used to fight in the backyard all the time and victor would be stronger than me But I would just like grab shit on the ground and throw it at him and then jump on him You know so I can do that to my dad because he finds so you fight dirty is Yeah, exactly and victor my dad probably won't fight nearly as dirty as I will or at least not as like He won't think of the environment as much as I will I got the Jackie Chan thing going on, you know Like I'll throw the the tv at him or something So I do think I could defeat him physically if we if I had to like if it was not just Oh, we're like having a blood feud like we're we're passionately fighting a father and son You know if we're like if my dad's a zombie and I got to kill him like I can kill him, you know Let's say he's like under let's say he's gone evil. He's gone rogue. He's murdering everybody. That's he's become king dd Yeah, I will say that in order for me to find the inner strength to kill my dad He might have to strangle shade first like I might need that motive, you know But if if you know if someone's been strangled that I can probably get him Intellectually my dad would my dad's a smart guy But he would probably forfeit to be intellectually tbh because he thinks I'm a fucking genius So fair enough my my dad would destroy me both physically and intellectually And emotionally, uh, I've already done that to myself. Let's be real. Um, no, he's he's like he's Tom you sound like you were on the verge of tears with the when saying that That was not intentional, but maybe that says something deep about myself that i'm not aware of it's very possible Uh, but no, he's like he's like he's like my dad works out. He's Absolutely. No, my dad's like super built. He's like the chief financial officer for hanscom airport space He manages multi-million dollar budgets like on the daily So yeah smart guy Yeah, but does he even have a youtube channel? If if only he he had a debuff like that, I might stand a chance, but no he he hasn't been distracted by the uh Feudal pursuits like we all have so indeed All right. Here's a here's our next question from horse from horsepower I I call next one. Okay. Um, it says How do you know if you're chasing a dream or a dilution? Oh, that's got to be uh, somebody made a video called that recently. Who was that? Was that fantano? It was fantano. Yeah Oh, yeah, fantano did except he probably said delusion and not uh dilution not dilution. That's that's true I would I would expect so Uh, I don't know if there is a way to I mean I There's a couple ways to qualify What is it? When do you say it's a delusion like if you're making money off of it? Does that mean it's not a delusion but like what if it falls away one day? Was it a delusion? I think a delusion is inherently only decided after the fact. I don't know if you can Yeah, well, okay. Let's you have to try before you'll know. Yeah, let's talk about this as soon as you know It's a delusion. It's over. That's what constitutes a delusion Let's talk about the exact example that he brought up It's this guy. He didn't say his name, but everyone was quite it was quite clear who he was talking about this guy Uncle Adams, uh, he's made a bunch of cringy music videos and songs in the past Uh, and he is now like he's he talked about how he's already sold his house. He sold his car He's making these vlogs or whatever. He is like 200 000 dollars in debt at this point And he's decided he is not stopping until he has like a a big music career Like here's what I don't understand about that It's like somebody like me was able to just do youtube while having a job and not completely Burying myself in debt. I think that is the smart path to take To put all your eggs in one basket like that seems like a mistake in my opinion And like to be fair, I think you just need to know if it's a sure thing I mean, I can see putting all your eggs in one basket if you're like It depends on the circumstance Yeah, I mean if you think you've got the masterpiece of the century In your mind and like if you just drop out of school for a year and work on it You're gonna fucking blow the world away with your novel But you really got to think about like how much Time is it gonna take, you know, are you actually capable of delivering on it? Get some opinions see how people react to it who would you know find someone who would enjoy it And show it to them and see if they do enjoy it, you know You know the story of disney and snow white and how he had like to I think what what's the word mortgage his house or something Like he put a lot of his savings and like basically he was like risking it all The cuphead developers just did that remortgage their houses to make cuphead. They did. That was a big story I mean lots of people have done it But like when in those cases like we're talking about Disney is making a movie with some of the best animation quality that had ever been done So like there's almost guaranteed an audience when you know for a fact that you are doing something If like a technical level of craftsmanship above anything else anyone's doing And if you were doing that you would know you were doing it because You would be able to observe everyone else and you know everything about their technique A lot of like anecdotal stories about like, you know successful people who are risking it all But like we hear about them those examples because they're successful There's like dozens and hundreds and thousands of people have done the same thing and got totally fucked When you look at the cuphead development like of course they remortgage their house because the first time they took that game to e3 It was fucking all anyone was talking about so they knew they had a hit on their hands Like they would be stupid or not to do it if they were passionate enough to finish the project You know and make sure it was good But that's like so you got to look at it different. You got to you know, think about risk differently from just Oh, they remortgage their house. They took a huge risk. It's like, yeah, but they took a huge risk on a sure thing You know, so it's not really a risk at all I just like I want to pull up how many subs this guy just get a feel for what success He's gotten at the moment He has one video that's got like something like 500,000 views His youtube channel has about 26,000 subscribers Like the the fact of the matter is he is not that successful. Yes I think honestly what this guy was this man had was a dangerous thing Is that he got a little too much taste of success and kind of addl his brains I think that's what ruins like most youtubers like I think a lot of the youtubers who end up only being around for a couple years It's because one thing Plays into like the algorithm just right or maybe even a few videos for a little while and like You know, you just take off and then As soon as you don't have that weird magical foothold that like whatever youtube's algorithm was at that moment Just happened to like align perfectly with your shit Then uh, you know, you might fall off if your fans don't actually care about you I watched a bunch of this guy's videos and he talked about how like when he started this vlog Look, yeah, I was about to release a video You know, I was really hoping that would be the one that blew up and he says like maybe it'll take like a week Maybe it'll take a month Maybe it'll take a couple months for me to succeed But like we're talking about a man building up his music career like from the ground floor This should not be an idea of like within days. I'll have made it Like I could tell just by listening to his videos He has a way warped sense of time for what he thinks this is going to be And I watched some of the music videos like not good and he has people Cringing at his videos like this is the kind of guy we're talking about Uh, it just it scares me man. This is a guy. I think it was a victim of kind of the The the weird success I would I wouldn't call him a victim. He's choosing this. He's he's doing well All I'm saying is that I think he's he's under he's experiencing some Confirmation bias in what he's doing and he sees all the success people and he thinks if I just come And you know what if this guy makes it everyone will say like oh Well, look at all the haters man He will say like look at all the haters who doubted me But the thing is what matters is not whether he succeeds or not What matters was the degree of risk he was willing to expose himself to and for some people They can expose themselves to a little risk and have it pay off great Guys like me are extremely conservative about this kind of things and do not put a lot of risk into what they do But like I would argue this guy put it way too much out there. I'll tell you right now I consider myself a huge risk taker, but like not in the way like I only take the big risk after I've already got you know, uh, $10,000 saved up and I'm like, uh, you know Sure that they have to make sure everything's set up You know, I'm going to make a big leap But I'm gonna make sure I fucking have gauged the distance that I'm jumping, you know Like we say you're not as spontaneous in that way Well, you know before I make the leap I lick my finger and I hold it up and I feel the winds and I determine which way they're blowing You know, they're not making calculated risk taker Exactly. I think there's a lot of people who just Are just straight up don't even know what they're supposed to be looking for They just see a hole and they think they can jump over it and they don't even realize that they don't have legs You know, like yeah, there's people like that on youtube All right, it's true, man. Uh, munchy you wanted to do the next question. Yes. Yes by j8 The hurricane and the questions bar. What is the pcp's mass effect three? Something so disappointing that you retroactively hate all the related content that comes before it Something something that we made or something that we feel like that about I think he I think what he meant was like What do we feel is the case? Right? Maybe jon tron historically was kind of like I wanted to take this the way that like what have we created that that that we hate like like like retroactively We now hate it and be like, uh, I'm so embarrassed. I don't think that's not much That's yeah, there's nothing I've made that makes me hate retroactively all the things I've made before it. I don't think that's what he's asking I think he means like but but but but but is there a piece of content that you are like? Oh, I shouldn't have made that my fucking pony vids Um, you're what? You're but but but but mage they were your foothold to to stepping stone, you know What whatever Pony things. Yeah, but those were pretty successful some of them. Yeah, I don't regret tea back at all That's not the gauge for success But now I'm stuck in in the pony fandom's shadow in like three or four years later People still like poke me about the pony things and I'm just like I'm done with this You you definitely did not make as hard of a cut as as the fellow guys here did I did I made I made an announcement. I told people I I fucking I know Is this just that people ask you about pony because that doesn't seem like a major issue if they just kind of ask you about it People still make a keg and phantom fan art and I love it Acra's fan art of keg and phantom and and the rest of the crew was great. Yeah. Shout out to acro killing it as always Fuckin acro fucking of arm retrieval like a veteran general of arm retrieval acro is fucking incredible Just I get sometimes people just actively denying that I left the fandom And I'm just like wake up Grab a brush and put a little makeup Exactly, um, I definitely think I oh, sorry may she continue No, I mean like I may I make it sound sound worse than it is actually Some of the things and in the pony thing like it's the lethal halloween thing I'm kind of embarrassed by it because it's really really bad But people really like it. So I'm kind of really embarrassed by it That's fair enough I mean there's a lot of my videos I'm embarrassed by like because generally my you know writing style and taste evolve over time And sometimes I rewatch some old shit and I'm just like what the fuck am I talking about? Why did I make this? Why did I think this is okay? um But like most of it is stuff that I think I Appreciate why people would have liked it at the time There's very few videos that I've made that were like When they came out they were DOA and like the mario odyssey video I made is definitely one of them where like I was just like I I don't know why I made that video because I knew that the only way I was going to convince anybody of my point Is by doing like an in-depth analytical breakdown Allah matthematosis, and I'm sure that when his video comes out He probably will criticize the visuals of that game because I trust him to fucking have sense But um I jumped the gun and just made something quick and easy and I thought that if I opened it by just being like Yo, this is a goofy video like people would be okay with it, but they were not Nobody was okay with it. They're pretty rabid about that. Yeah, so it was just it just didn't need to exist Like it was just a pr disaster Basically like it was just me coming out with an unpopular opinion Not defending it well and then just having people be like well We disagree and we hate you for having made this like for having Even brought this to the attention of the world in the first place Dg didn't have that like fucking stupid vlog to have like rebuttal videos and like and like it did Like he was like taking you down. Who the fuck cares? Dude, I can't I can't believe why I don't make videos about video games like because Not worth it. It's not something that I made but I guess probably the thing I'm most ashamed of would be analysis anarchy Being associated with that I just watched that the other day in fact. Oh god. Does it hold up? Does it hold up? Yeah Oh, is it as good as I remember? I showed it to all my offline friends to specifically show you ben I showed them like like I showed them to like be like, you know that guy. I know that guy Awful awful, so that's the first thing they know of you. Okay. Well, I guess that's what I deserve Ben's part It honestly with the silver quill quipped. I remember being the only kind of funny part. Yeah in the video I didn't read the script. I just looked at my like two lines and I thought all right Well, these aren't terrible. I'll read them and then I watched the whole video and it's like so it goes so downhill from there Like once the actual plot gets underway. It's like, oh my god. This is this is what we're doing. No, please Oh shameful. Oh I would say that reminds me that I uh, I have to do something similar for a guy's abridged series That um that someone just like messaged me like hey, will you do a voice in my abridged series on? Black clover or whatever and I was like, uh, sure as long as he said it'll only be a couple lines I'm like sure and then I get the lines and I am first of all have way more than a couple lines And second of all my character is all quotes from my videos So, uh What I already like I didn't actually he sent me the script I didn't actually read it for a straight week and by the time I read it everyone else had done their lines So I'm like now I find I kind of feel like I have to do it Because like I'm the only one holding this thing up, but like I hadn't read it beforehand So I'm just like, oh god. Yeah, you fucked up a little bit. Uh, yeah I should probably do that performance today because that guy's been asking me for weeks and I have just been Yeah, uh, uh, there is an uncanny valley type situation for embarrassing content for me Because like like if I go back in my past and I read all the role plays or something they are hilarious They are great. They do not even like I do not I cannot imagine it was like to be like tin and writing role plays I can't imagine the I am not that person So it's funny to like look back and be like, oh, what wasn't this silly wasn't this a cringy, you know Funny time, ha ha ha, but the closer you get to being actually real life me and the more embarrassing it gets It gets me like, oh, I remember writing that How many years before like munchie pissing on stream is like his worst memory of all his whole life No, that won't that will never be the case I can't I can't wait for the new segment munchie versus munchie in like three years Fuckin 10 no 10 years from now when he's like running for office because he's become like really politically minded and stuff Literally his career is ruined by the time he pissed on pcp because like everyone has files of it God well, okay, okay, okay If if I do decide to run for office literally the entirety of like me saying this right now will be an embarrassment And it will be the worst thing that probably I've done I I just resign myself to the fact that I will never be a politician because I just could not be There's just no way that it could be I've resigned myself to the fact that I probably can't hold any job anymore because like any background check on me It's just going to turn up like a bunch of fucking weird troll videos and shit like yeah You'll need to be some sort of like social influencer or like a writer for a magazine Like working at like a McDonald's something would be like, yeah, they looked that up and it's like well What the fuck is this about uh, but then again, hopefully it wouldn't come to that point Uh, yes. Yeah, excellent I've been using the same name for like two like so long now that like my entire history is documented So it's like it's like like no matter what like I will never be able to like escape That's I don't know anyone I'm trying to do. I'm just saying that like the closer you get to like me right now Uh, like it's it's again. It's like a valley. So like if I were to go two years back I would probably be like, oh god. Why did I say do these things? But if I go like like five years back, I'll be like, I don't even remember this There's no way I could have done this like this is not I've seen a few things on my blog that I'm legit like there's like this is impossible There's no way I had this opinion that goes to the shell standalone complex. It's the ugliest anime Stuff like that. Um, yeah, so all right. Nice question Uh sandalwood asks what's the most at drill thing you've ever done? Ben, I want to know you. I want to know if you got an answer to this. Oh, man I bet I could think of some um You know what, uh, give me a second. I'll be right back. You know, Ben, I'm gonna say Okay I feel like most things that the pcp have done together could fit into a drill tweet like the group shit That might be a pretty at drill. Yeah, the group shit was very taking a group shit at brody con With five internet people that I'm fucking him living with now or it's ruby. I'm looking at I pulled up drills twitter Here's a recent one from february 16th. I used it yesterday Time to look at the moments tab I lay down in the bathtub and a guy smears shit all over my chest with his ass while using a taser on me There you go. Yeah, pretty. Yeah, you know, take it five-man group shit at brody con with my internet buddies That's a drill tweet if you agree I I almost Whenever it comes to questions like this, I I almost feel like I haven't done anything with my life But even though like I know I have like a reputation for being like crazy The like I I I think about them so much that it's like that that doesn't even feel weird to me I mean pissing on stream is pretty fucking at drill That's true. Yeah, and and and fucking walking up and down my my my like rich white, uh, like like town Like in full pizza and top hat pizza ones Top hat claiming that I am a prince from africa and I will buy out every small business and because I am the I'm the owner of microsoft. That's that's pretty at drill Yeah, that's very at drill because you brought up that exact example Just listen to this question just as an insert to this larger question. This is from the from the from the twitter Hashtag asked pcp everybody It's a question How is it that only six years ago munchie was a small baby boy swaddled in the garments of a slain arab prince While baptized in the blood of 100 maidens sounds pretty relevant It's it's amazing to see my growth from from your six years ago being a baby It's a shame. He had to give up his claim to the throne of dubai, but nonetheless, he's made the best It's it's the same. I had to stop being a Nigerian prince to do anime raps on the internet And then I had and then I had to you know crash the people because I was homeless That's that's a real shame I had to I had I have to imagine that ben has gone off into the bathroom stripped naked and it's just like Fucking flailing himself with a trout right now, which ironically enough. It's at drill which ironically enough is pretty drill itself. Yeah Yeah Yeah, just the tweet would be like trying to make some shit happen for the podcast I'm on left the bathroom to beat myself with a trout. Nothing's happening Um, well, well, well, I mean tweet drill is really all about his brand, right? Yeah, of course drill like everything drill does he does for the drill brand. Um, and he's always he's always wheeling and dealing um I don't know. I just uh Like the the only thing that comes to mind that's particularly drill-ish is like there's nothing in specific But there's just like I don't know everywhere. I've always lived people have remarked that like I just do things In a strange way and and they don't know what like I'll just I'll just assemble food in like a bizarre order That doesn't make any or I'll just I'll just like throw things Together and and people are like Ben. Why do you do that? And I'm always like and I'm always like I don't know why anyone doesn't do it this way Like that's just my my stock answer is like I don't understand why everyone doesn't do everything the way that I do Which seems like kind of a drill attitude. That's that's a fairly drill sentiment. I guess All right. I got one more question Zeno grade asks what quote do you want carved onto your tombstone? I was about to do this one. I want the classic My my heartbeat clips the microphone that should be on my job. That's a good one especially from a fucking corpse Yeah, yeah, exactly Oh, I know I had an answer for this. I definitely look. I'm just thinking because I know I had some answers for this But I can't remember them right now. I'm still banking on on me making it. Oh weaponize. I think it's for the force Or I'll weaponize and thickness with Jesus. That's what I want Maybe some question from the cue marker fuffle, you know, you gotta bring back your past You don't even know me at all. Don't understand the meaning of my fall. What my family would think if I ever failed at anything That's that's what I want to buy. I had to have to fight For my tombstone, I'd be like BRB responding Oh, dude, is she a gamer girl? Holy shit My tombstone just say the living wage your tombstone should just have like the hexadecimal code for purple on odd You know, I want a QR code that leads to like an ARG that that's oh my god, that would be so fucking dope. Yeah That's what I want. Yeah, that's what I want. Just just just have just like the Just just just have a tombstone just says like comment subscribe. That's that's how you sign off from life That's a good one. The idea of a post humorous ARG is the most appealing concept between the entire fucking world I I I hope that I still have this interest when I am in fact dead I The idea of like solving an ARG and instead of like slender man It's a real life actual corpse that is dead looking up on the internet. Wow. He's dead Ghosts that is fucking dope. You gotta figure this out. You're gonna start laying the breadcrumbs now You're gonna start leaving clues in pcp episodes. It's true The the the the the final link will be me So Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly incredible. No one else have anything been uh, what was the question? What would you have on your tombstone? Oh god, well now i'm embarrassed because I just thought of a really great Tombstone etching that I remember I heard someone talking about But now I'm remembering that the person I heard talking about it was danny from game grumps And I don't want to just repeat something that was said on game grumps So I'm gonna gracefully bow out you've given him credit now. I'm just curious what it is. We understand Oh, it was like it was a poem that was like, um As as you are now so once was I as I am now so you shall be or something It was it was kind of like a passive aggressive little poem about like yeah, I'm dead, but fuck you Very good All right, I think we're among I haven't I my tombstone I all right specifically want this if I live Incredibly long, but I want it to just be like hey, hey every pony he left us. I want to Only if I live incredibly long I want it to be like he left us too soon Or something like like like should like life is brief or something like that and just like I live like 120 years or something Yeah, here lies the otaku gonzo corpse forever. May he rest May he never rise from this crypt May his purity never return Um, I think we've said all there is to say on the topic of nature Is death good is nature death? Yes, we are gonna die right now Wait, who is in a fight nature or nurture who's stronger? I've I was trying to figure out how to make a fucking versus nurture joke the whole show But eventually an hour had passed and I was like we don't need to go on this tangent Nurture wins. I'm saying nurture nurture wins Other episode on nurture. I would love that fucking, you know, good idea. Literally press one for nurture. I will literally do that Okay, let's deal with that. Goodbye. Goodbye. Bye everyone. Oh, I'd make sure you do a patreon Patreon.com slash the procrastiners one dollar for the for the chat five dollars for the bonus episodes Gamergate 2016 election trump. Drump. It's all there. Got a bunch of old episodes, too Uh, uh, we got itunes and google play tom hooks us up with that shit links or something go figure it out Uh, and that's it radcon three people in a couple of weeks six of us will be there We're entering the arena uh march 14th is the beginning And there you go. Join us for fun. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be a hundredth episode of pcp coming up On that week. All right. Bye everyone Oh, no