 So check it, check it, check it. This is a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the official Miss Jamaica. Hey, how you doing, man? We got some guys in here today, man. Hey, it took an act of Congress just to get them to sit still long enough to get the camera on them. These guys right here, man, everybody know them in the city. That's why I got them on here, because I know y'all know what we're doing serious when you see this move right here, man. These guys here have been blessing me ever since I, I, I start trying to figure my cameras out. You know what I'm saying? God sent them to me, man, in so many different ways. I got my boy Cam God and I got Sean in the building, man. What's going on, man? That was good. It was good. Why, why, what's the, what's the, what's the eyes? Save, man. So, man, I always start off and I always do this, man. Tell us just a little bit about yourself. You ain't got to say much because I know y'all don't like to be in front of the camera. Exactly. That's what we do. That's what we do. So, tell me a little bit about yourself. Well, you know, it's a, you know, Jan Vicious Cam God, uh, basically I'm a videographer, photographer for, you know, Dallas and any other city. Yeah, I see you everywhere. Yeah. So, um, you know, any celebrities or anybody that's done any type of work or needs anything done out here, they usually call myself. I know you are this guy right here, man. So, give, give us a little spiel. A little spiel about me? Oh, Sean, over in media, you know, you ain't heard about me. No, no, no, no, no, you low key, but then dangerous, you know, this boy deadly. You are the rock. Man, you know, God brought you out of me, man, in two different ways, two different times. Everybody that had been coming on the show, it been organic. So I can sit here in this seat and feel good about the fact that it happened like organically. Like it was like, okay. You met right in front of these little shops. That's what I'm saying. Like it happened like that. I want to tell you how we met. Should I tell you? No, I don't know what we're doing, just talking. No, I was going to an A&B. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was, yeah, he was, but at the end of the day, it was like, I had to go there. He had to go. He had to get that paper sign like everybody else. And he wasn't doing nothing over there like he should have been. He should have been over there telling them about what really went down. But he just getting that paper sign and leaving. I know what he was doing. So, Sean, what's up with you, man? You out of... I was talking about how we met. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bought a camera for him, off for up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he hooked me up. Man, I was like, man, when I got him over here, I'm like, man, I ain't letting him go. I ain't never letting him go. I met Sean. He forget about that. I met Sean. It was a dub car show in 2017, 2017. And I have finessed my way into there. So I was, I mean, I was supposed to be there, but I had gave my ticket away to someone else and I was like, I get in there. So I was in there and they was kicking everybody off stage. When I was in there, you know, I met the people that was on the grounds he were on all them. But when I was coming up, they was like, oh, everybody get off. And it was like, you, all right, you come up here. It was me and Ovid that was on the stage that was just left on there. So I remember him just being up there because I'm thinking like, man, just to be in this spot right here. And he was doing his thing. He had the big boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Man, look what I see. Yeah, yeah, you were going on it. When I seen him up there, when I seen him up there, I was like, man, he official, you know, he official. He the one. He the one. He got it. He got it. Because it was just me and him. Yeah, I was like, damn, they let me up here because I know I wasn't supposed to be there. No, no, no, no, no, it's the way you supposed to be there. You were supposed to be there, you know, and then me after watching him and seeing what he's doing. And he constantly, um, he wasn't, he wasn't always official with 97.9. Yeah, yeah, but he was just working and working and working. I love that because I was working too. And I was speeding up watching him. I think he's been in the business longer than you have. He has been. Okay. Yeah. How much, how much longer? I started in 2017, like in July. Oh, there, I was in 2010. Wow. Wow. But y'all both dope. That's what's so cold about it. People that sit in these seats, man, they be knowing, man. And they be like, man, yeah, man, this dude right here. Uh, you did that V Live video and I was checking it out. I'm like, that's my guy right there, you know. And then, uh, VIP YG, shout out to him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was like, man, yeah, he hooked me up, man. That's my dude. I'm like, yeah, I said, I think a lot of people do. Yeah. Hey, YG, YG, he called me to do that video. And, um, when I did it, like, it, what happened that day? It was like certain things that needed to be taken care of and we didn't have it at first. But, um, we got it, you know, because the people weren't there with the cars, because you seen it with everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cars and everything. Man. It didn't happen like that. It, it came, they came. I was like, what the hell are they doing out here? And then they was burning the rubber, burning. I've never been in this type of scene. This was some, um, fast and furious type. You killed it though. It was a man, listen, that, uh, YG got some dope, something, he got some dope track. Then we just did the Bustin' Vans. Yeah, yeah, I see that one too. So on yours, yo, I seen you, I mean, 50 comes to town. And when he comes to town, I see these visuals. And then I find out it's you behind them and they solid. You know what I'm saying? How did that transpire for you? That transpired through DJ Kaati. Okay. Through that relationship with Kaati. Yeah. So I see you plugging in with a lot of different dudes that come to town. You don't like, I mean, then you'll fly out too. Every time I call, yeah, man, I'm for the fly. I'll be back, man. I'll be back. Yeah, I'll be back. I'll be out of town. I'm like, ah, this dude Hollywood, he gone. I was like, man, I ain't gonna never be able to get him in front of the camera. You understand? Sometimes it's for pleasure, sometimes for work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I enjoy, I just enjoy seeing the hustle. I ain't gonna lie. I'm real caught up on that. Like I've been like that. Like when I see somebody grinding, it motivates me. So when I see you guys grinding, I'm like, man, and if I know if I got a camera problem, I know who to call. I'm like, they know the answers. Yeah, thanks. And y'all visuals be looking cleaner than everybody's, dude. I appreciate it. And I know it's the settings. Y'all, I mess them settings up every time. Or having the right cameras, all three of the right cameras. It doesn't, I don't even think it has anything to do with the cameras. Sometimes it says, but to me, I don't even think it's a right or wrong. You think it's a shot? Like the look you looking for? Yeah, it's like, it's like, to me, whatever you feel like, you know what I'm saying, you want it to look like, because some people come on your comments and be like, well, this should have been like this. You just, what the fuck? I want it to be like that. That's how I wanted it to look. Or sometimes, even if you don't know, you just don't know, but you'll learn. You know what I'm saying? That's why I don't ever tell people, oh, well, you know, next time, how about try this? Because that person, eventually get it, because I didn't know a lot of things. Because I started off with the T5 Rebel. So I did not know about the shutter. I know about the ISO. I didn't know about aperture. I didn't know about the lens. I didn't know how to move the settings. You know, how to do my white balance. I didn't know anything about that. So I had to learn. But I've been watching, like, just watching people. Yeah. And when I was watching Sean, if I was watching anybody else, I'll be like, OK, what do I need to work on? So I'll look on YouTube and I'll see, learn about my camera. And then I'll like, oh, that's what I need to do. And then that's how I'll fix it. What's the thing that, and I as both of your audience, what's something, because I know I've done this, what's something that you've done so long and one day you realized, like, dang, I should have been figured that out. That's back at the beginning. Yeah, that's what I was saying. In the beginning. Like, you're like, I should have knew that. That's what I've been there. When I see, when I see, when someone comes and tells me something about it, I know when I was working with Jeff there. And that's how I started. When he was telling me things and sharing things with me, I was like, dang, so I didn't really feel too bad because I did not know. Yeah. However, I felt like I should have known that. But it wasn't my fault, you know what I mean? It's always, and I'm still learning, I'm still learning. Man, I don't know. There's a lot of stuff I don't know on camera. And you know, especially when you get the big cameras, the big cameras. Oh, that's him. Now, you be dealing with that TV camera. No, when he's dealing with the TV, see that, man. Yeah, he do that on Cruise. J. Cruise, I'm sorry. J. Cruise was like, he was like, when Sean first came, he told a whole story about your whole, everything about how you started with him. I got J. Cruise with opportunity. That's what he said. He was like, man, I told him, man, if he'll shoot for me, I can't give him nothing right now, but it'll pay off. And now you can't even, I said, I can't even get him, man. I said, I'll get him on the phone. That's about it. He be busy. At least he answered. You have a lot of people who. Yeah, like I mentioned in Rock Tee, Rock Tee won't answer. Yeah, it's certain people that them blew up that I can't even get the answer to the phone. And we was rocking out together. Now they with Money Man and Jordan Lucas and they won't even answer for me. And I be on them too. I be every show that nigga, you know, when you scum and you had the backpack, nigga. I'm like, P.M.C. was on them niggas when he was like, you know, you know, we was cool. And, you know, and you was, you, I was, you was a fan. We was partners and now you don't win. Come on back home. I did the same thing with Taylor. Go ahead and ask the question. I know you got something for. She always got a question guy. I know everybody has a different style of videography or photography. What make y'all stand out from each other? Because so that our listeners can know if we want to touch you, you're more my man than you are. So it's kind of hard. That's a hard question. It's yeah, because he don't have a different style. But well, me, what makes you stand out different from everybody that you think? Because it's going to be his opinion. Because if people more so, they want music videos. You know, I know, you know, my expertise is probably like interviews, radio play. Yeah, because I shoot videos. But you don't, you know, it's OK. And I shoot more music videos and do more photography and do more concerts and more heroes behind the scenes. I would say like I'm a recap king. Yeah, he the he the. I mean, you bring it back. I do recaps, too. I do recaps, too. Recaps is where I started at. But the clubs at the club. But then I had to stop it. I had to slow it out at the clubs. You was killed. Why? The club when when I'm what was told to me or what was. You start shooting at the clubs and you start shooting at the clubs all the time. You're going to end up being stuck at the clubs. Really? You know, always shooting the club, always because now you're there. You have to be there Friday, Saturday and Sunday. You'll have no time for nothing else. And then at the same time, you know, I can't just shoot the club regularly. I got a drink. I got to do this and I hate going home five, six, seven o'clock in the morning and being tipsy or, you know, waking up in the morning and having that feeling or waking up late because I have other shoots to do that next day. Yeah. You know, so. So let me ask you all a question. What out of all the people y'all work with shot, you know, who stands out the most to, you know, I'll start off with Sean because he don't like to talk. Who stands out was the something about them that stood out working, working with these guys? Nobody stands out. None of them. They all the same. Everybody equal. So say I see you shot you shot Nipsey when you came to town that time. I remember seeing it on your foot. Did you shoot him as well? Or can we twist the question in this way? Who was the most pleasant to work with? Because, you know, you have those people who think that they, you know, they can just try to tell you exactly what to do, how to do it, whatever. But yeah, some people who laid back and be like, you're a professional, do do what you do. Oh, yeah, I really am. Everybody really well to me. Everybody really be cool. It's never had a situation with anybody that I've had it. Good question. I say people that try to know about you, they try to get the most for the less. Yes, but but that comes with that comes from other people. That comes from other people trying to book you through them. It'll be either a third person, you know what I mean? Or a middleman will come to you and be like, hey, man, I need you to do so and so, so and so for so and so. And they'll be trying to lowball you. Like you just look out for, you know, but there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with it, because it's always an opportunity to work with the person. Yeah. Most of the people I've been is cool, but most of people that stand out to me is being like, you know, working with DC or DC, things like that. Because I've been more consistently working with them more than anything. And they've always looked out. They don't need me, you know, when I was with MTV, while I'm not with Nick Cannon the first time, they didn't need me to be there, but they allowed me to be there, you know, shout out to Rick Michaels because he actually initiated it. And that's where I came in and then met Nick and then met DC and met Carlos and met Chico building those relationships, genuine relationship, not somewhere you just having to put up a bag to see them. That's a different type of relationship. Right. It's all different ways that people meet people. I see a lot of rappers and they meet certain people and they work with them and they could never talk to them again because of the way that they approached them. So there's a way that that relationship is built when you're dealing with them. When y'all agree, right? It's always everything is a relationship. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's the way you approach it, like the way you lay it out. I mean, you could kind of because they hold yourself out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you put yourself out there in a bad way. Nobody will respect you. Right. Am I right? And that's the main thing with myself that makes me that sets myself different from other camera people because, I mean, out when I started off, I do things for free and I don't look at it and I still don't think about the money to a certain extent. But I know I put that on the groundwork. But you would say the same thing. Yeah, it's the exposure. It's the way you approach it. It's the way you like, like, like the question you was saying, though, the one you sent me about, is this something that you guys wanted to do since you was a kid? Yeah. You always wanted to be a fireman. Oh, that was going to be an architect. Oh, you was going to be an architect, bro. I'm still using the same thing. The creativity, you know, I'm still using it with the video. OK, yeah. So you feel like you're fulfilling that that dream anyway. And you you say from day one, you was go, this is what you wanted to do. When I first watched when MTV had came out, MTV had, you know, had all the alternative music videos with Alanis Morissette, Smashing Pumpkins, Corn, Nirvana and their videos had a real treatment, you know, real treatments, because nowadays with these artists, they want to, you know, with rap artists, they want to be on top of the tables and have in the gun, pop, pop, pop and all this other stuff and that. It's it's wack because this has been done 50 million times. Yeah, let's do something else. This is not music, but the way I see how those music videos was made me want to be like, man, this is what I want to do, even though their budgets was like 50,000. Yeah, they had them big, but technology was different. Shoot, the technology was it's way more now than it is then. But yeah, yeah. You sure about that back then? It was what it was. Way that budget was the budget, the budget, the budget was crazy because nobody was was using these cameras. Yeah, yeah, the DS, almost was using these cameras, the big boys. The big boys and the way how they were putting it together. They really had to come up with something from point A to point B to point C, the ending part. Everything had to be strategically mapped out. And that's mostly the video. Sometimes people catch certain things in my videos. I throw certain things in. Yeah, it's a blimbering. Yeah, if people catch it. Yeah, I do. I do. Honestly, I do it. So do you think that so what's your what's your strongest thing? Like when you are you expensive man to deal with? I think you kind of you ain't playing no games with it. They're going to have to pay what they weigh. Yeah, yeah. If I did the groundwork. Well, you want quality. So you got to pay for it. Exactly. I respect it. I respect it. You could ask me the same thing about my clothes because in here. Yeah, you want to drop that bag? Yeah, yeah, I feel you on that because I'm the same way. I had a conversation with a couple of people a few days ago and they were like, man, no, you got to look at it this way. I'm like, no, I understand how to work with people and sharing with. And, you know, I'll work with your budget. I'll work with your budget. But don't try to have me shoot these amazing and you want this and you want that and you want it like this and you want it the next day. And you ain't gave me nothing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But you know your worth. That's what it is. That's important, right? To know your worth, you know what you know, you know what your worth is. I mean, do you guys check the market to see if you are really on point with yourself? No, we really low ball in ourselves. We really we really we really not even putting everything into where we could be charging. Yeah, we are. I mean, far as right now, I'm just really giving people the opportunity to work with me because regardless of not where I've been and where I'm going, as many as people say, hey, you're too, you're too expensive. I can't afford you or you shouldn't work like that. I have not slowed down or stopped yet. You know, when I mean, since being on that stage, I've just been going up, going up, going up and so listen. And it's not nothing to be like I'm not bragging or anything, but I'm saying like when I'm not being not going to be available to y'all, then y'all going to be like, oh, damn. But if you work with me already and regular price, look, I'm going to look out for you. Let me ask you a question, Sean. Do you how was it with the radio station working with? Because that's something different. I know you you don't you haven't done that. Now I've done that. You work with the radio station. 97.9 K-104. Yeah, really? Like you you worked on the morning, the morning show when you was doing it, how he was doing the morning show. And they I was with Hollywood Zay. Shout out to my boy, Hollywood Zay, the man in the city. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. So so how was it with the morning show? You know, I tried to get with Jay with Jay Cruz. I tried to get the dirt on when how y'all was flipping and flopping over there and moving and shaking. He would he gave it to me a little bit then at the end. I kept messing with it. Yeah, I wanted to do it. I wanted to do it. They like, no, I ain't going to tell it, man. But I got that watch when you see the interview come out. He kind of spilled the beans on a lot of stuff that he hadn't even exposed. But I thank God that he did. It's going to make for a good interview. I get some views on that. Whoa, hold up. That's why it's not good to interview me because I'm not going to say anything. Yeah, you're going to be like this. No, and you know what? Yeah, even even when when when you weren't on camera, you weren't trying to give up the information. So I think that's a that's a sign of respect. I like it. I like loyalty. Lawy, you got to have a lot of loyalty in here because I be with a lot of artists and I film a lot of things. So have anybody ever told you, don't don't you don't don't show this? Yeah, I got that. And I took in Beverly Hills. I was filming. I had Jay Tyler with me. Oh, OK. And that's what T.I. said, don't don't film in here. Yeah, I said, all right. Oh, I asked beforehand. Sometimes they won't even remember that I'm filming and I'll just stop. And I'll be like, hey, do you want me to film this because I know you know, because you've been around and you pick up on it a lot faster. You know, do you want me to film this? Yeah, I mean, you know, to put this either what you're talking about or, you know, because I was with Carlos Miller and Charleston, White linked them up together. I've seen that. Yeah, I got. He was here, you know, it's been killing it. This is this is second home now. He real cool. This is what you want to be. See, Charleston, I've been knowing Charleston since before he got on the camera and before he started doing going live and everything. He actually I stayed at his house and left my I didn't stay there, but I had was going to jail the next day and left my script with an agent. You sleep with it. This is the street one right here. So you hear that? He was left his camera because he was going to jail and then I met him at the A.A. next door. This is all becoming it. It's getting real right now. I'm finally you the gangster camera guy. They don't they don't bother me. They leave me alone, man. They leave me alone. So so so tell me about how you how you and Charleston, White linked. Yeah, so well, me and Charleston, he was always being high years, but he was he would type it. Yeah, and I would see everything that he would say and I felt the same way about it. So me and him just chopped it up. We talked about I'm talking about we talked for like hours and he I actually figured out with me and Carlos Miller and Charleston had linked up. He had said, man, do you know I had got locked up when he was talking about he had the mental asylum? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said the conversation that me and him had got him in there. I said, why do you say it? And the police was listening. I said, they was listening. He said, man, the police was listening and they followed me the next day after our conversation. I say, you're lying. I said, I ain't telling you how to be careful because these microphones are powerful, man. I'm being real. They listen to everything. Yeah, they watching me now. You know what I'm talking about? Well, if you're watching, make sure you give them a good side. Nick, no. But no, I really do be watching. No, I know they're watching. That's their job to watch. I mean, but the thing is, man, you got to be careful for what you say and how you say it. And not only that, what we're saying, if it's real and you believe in it, then what's up? You willing to you got to stand by what you say. Well, it's more of the influence that you bring. So when Charleston starts speaking, you know what I'm saying? Now it's like, you know, you have all these people that's listening around. They listen to us like, oh, we got a. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because all people need or us as a people need is a spark. What's that spark kit? It's on. Spray like wildfire. So, so, Sean, what's up with what's the venture right now? What's the thing? What were you at with yours? Yeah, let's talk about that. What you working with? What you working on? I'm doing a lot of everything. You were just out of town. I don't know where you went. You didn't tell me. But you say, I'm out of town. I'm going out of town. I'll be back and see the video to recap. Yeah, you're going to recap it. I didn't see it, but I need to go check. That's the only way I'm going to be able to keep up with you. Just do what the conversation be like light. Yeah, he being so modest. I'm talking about he went to the B.T. Awards, B.T. Awards. I'm like, whoa, man. Wow, that's crazy. You didn't go last year because of COVID. COVID, yeah. So let me ask you a question. The way how technology is changing. How often do you change your equipment? Cameras and stuff like that, updating it, getting new ones. Oh, they spending that money and stuff. I can tell you, they two tear it up over me. This guy, he sold me the camera and two tear it up. No, because we need to know that too. So that because we have cameras and we have to go around. The one you shooting up for, is it that? He done with that. They come, they buy five steps ahead of us. I'm going to make it easier for you. I'm going to make it way easier for you. Everything that people watch, especially on TV, unless it's a 4K TV, most people have 1080p. That's what I know. I know that. I know that. So if you, I mean, we upgrade because, you know, now people want the 4K. We want 4K, we want 16K, we want this. That's cool and everything. But you still have the basics. These, you still have the basics. As long as you ain't shooting with the grandma and pop and you know, you're right. Yeah, you're good. You straight, I mean, everything is already upgraded still to this day. The main thing they're trying to change now is the phones to do that, you know? You was down in Miami? Yeah. When? You heard recently, I just seen you. For the Super Bowl. For the Super Bowl, yeah. How was that for you? Ah, that was good. Well, it was good. It seemed like he was having a lot of fun. Not at first. Yeah, it seemed like it. Not at first. Yeah, I seen you. With the Branson. With the Branson. Shout out Branson. Shout out Branson. Branson must really be treating you good, man. Because they think they love Branson, don't they? He only drank Branson. Don't bring that old heady out. I've never had Branson before. I'm gonna have to get you some. I think it's expensive. It's brown. It's brown. Yeah, come here. He told me that on the phone. And they got a champagne. And they got a champagne. Yeah, he told me don't even come at him with nothing else. They don't have nothing white on a Branson brand. Now, you gotta be strong and drink that Branson. I'll try it. But with that, how I got linked up with Michael Blackson in 50 Cent was kind of... Yeah, I seen that. Y'all tough, man. But that was organic though at the same time because that wasn't even in the plan. Really? When I got there, I was supposed to be linking up with DC Young Fly at the arena. It was DC, Mike Epps. It was Mike Epps, Michael Blackson. It was another person that was gonna be and Calamar White was out there. Calamar White, shout out to my boy Calamar White because he's doing big things too. You moving around. Y'all, Hollywood up behind the scene though. They don't tell them what y'all doing with these folks either. I'm gonna go and say that right now. I don't know. You know, a lot of those folks, you see them, I seen what they do. These people got a lot of money. Y'all, you willing to take it there? We pointing at them good times. No. I know I drink a lot. Well, is that all y'all doing? That's all. Well, I don't know. Look, I'm gonna tell you this. We went up there, Michael Blackson, Michael Blackson hit me up. He said, hey, I want you to come to the... He didn't say it like this. It ain't on the wall right there with me. He said, hey, mother fucker. That ain't gonna be... He go hard every time, all the time. So that's just how he heals. He be chilling. He be really chill at the same time, but he be in his zone. Yeah. He know how to turn it on, turn it off. Yeah, yeah. But we had went to the hotel room. I mean, went to the hotel. They had a whole event going on with 50 Cent for a Super Bowl wash party. Okay. So it was like 2000 a seat. You know what I'm saying? So it was people that was up there. You throw that out there. Everybody went in the damn party. Nobody, nobody. It was like, how much a piece? It was 2000 a seat, 2000 a table. What'd you think about that coupe? That's an expensive table. Everybody couldn't be in there on 2000 a... And you still had to pay for your drinks. See what I'm saying? Some people in there with cups and nothing in it. Right. I mean, what you had, Michael Blackson, 50 Cent in there. I mean, it's a small space. Oh, they kicking it. Yeah, they kicking it. You kicking it with them. He walking around, they drinking the whole night. They drinking. I wouldn't even drink. They booing. You notice when the money go up and the stuff costs more, they get a little more relaxed too. They be chilling at that point. I'd have been there, right? So they have gone and loosened up a little bit. Y'all done seen some stuff. Y'all done wanted to tell it. I done seen some stuff. That's why I know y'all done seen some stuff. It depends on what artist it is. Yeah. It depends on the artist. Do y'all work with the local artists? Like, I'm not talking, I know y'all work with a lot of the ones trying to be up and coming, but like the Yellow Beesies and I mean, to this day. Been around, been around them, kicked it with them. Everything like that. Trap Boy. Yeah, Trap Boy, R.P.L. R.P. to Mothry. What did y'all think about that? I got to ask that on here. What, how did that impact the city as far as the music go? How was it? Did it hurt the city? Did it help? Well, I know it didn't help it, but it changed things. It made them feel, it made people, it's a void. It's a certain void. It's a certain void. So they're trying to figure out now what's going to happen was, where is the next music? Cause Mothry was actually doing something. He actually had substance behind it. I mean, you had Yellow, you know, still doing this thing or whatever like that, but Yellow's, he ain't up there. So. Man, Erika Banks doing good too. No, but Erika, Erika doing something as well. But they leave once they get on. They not even around no more. They not even around no more. Mothry, you know, that video with Mothry when he was in the casket, I was there, Jeff Adair had shot it, but me and him was there. You was there when he shot that. It was just me and him shooting it. But how did that happen? Cause it seemed like everybody started really going to that. I was thinking about that. Was it something you think was? Something going, I was thinking like, how it happened. You felt like the way he done it. He said a lot of that stuff. Because that situation just happened when he had left Fort Worth in RP to my boy, half. He just had got killed. Okay. So he had made that video right after that. You know, right after that situation when old boy had got killed in Fort Worth and then Mothry was like looked at for a murder charge. Wow. You know, so. I remember when that happened. Yeah. So he was putting, you know, we had the casket and everything. We had him sitting on a bottom table. What's that called? When the dead people sit on the table. Man, listen, man, that's the autopsy. Yeah. He was on a real life autopsy table. That was real. That blood and all that stuff they put on it. Yeah, they did. The blood wasn't real. Yeah, but I know they put it up. They made it up to casket. Like, I never could understand getting in a casket while you're live. That's hard for me, but I know they do it for the videos and stuff. What do you think about that? Look, we just watched Come into America too. He was in the casket. Yeah, but it was a standing up casket. Yeah. I don't know. The standing up one don't look at matters that much. But he died the same day. He died during the build up. He died. Right there, like, I'm going. You said, all right, I'm going to die now. But no, like, doesn't that freak you out, though? It was freaky in there. I bet. It was kind of, it was, it was like, we shot that at, what, two o'clock in the morning? That's crazy. Two o'clock in the morning. That's one thing that I learned with Jeff, especially, like, we was, it doesn't matter the time of the night or whatever it is, like, we was getting it. So not only that, it's some crazy stuff. Like, I hit snakes. And I see a lot of people in videos be having these snakes. I haven't shot with a snake yet. You haven't? You don't like them? I mean, I just haven't. I would. Cockroaches, anything. Maybe have some big ones, man. All that, I would do. You don't like them, sir? I like snakes, man. But you ain't gonna, you ain't gonna shoot? Would you shoot with it? The money, right? John is in there. I'm telling you, right there. That didn't be shaking with the camera boy. Yeah. Last year in L.A., we was at Venice Beach, this guy had a big ass snake on the beach and shit. Yeah, but did you? How close were you standing to? Oh, he was way back. No, you was right there? I don't be messing with him. I ran a dude out of here one time with a snake. I said, this is like a pet shop. I'm coming here with that. And his old lady said, get out of this store. I hate this. I said, baby, don't get mad at me. I'm gonna tell you, this ain't no pet shop. Right. That's two doors over. Right. So, you know, but no, you guys, man, doing a tremendous job in the city. And we definitely appreciate you guys for coming on this show. I just, Sean, you got to teach me some things. I mean, you talked about a few things before you went out of town and you had hit me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now the money ain't gonna, I gotta get my views up first. Yeah. But no. You gonna get it. Man, I think it's doing pretty good. I really do. I've been watching it and looking at it and seeing how it's flowing and it's jumping. You know, like. No, how you have the cameras. Like I'll be watching your interviews and you got the camera jumping in. It's the same every time. Yeah. That's what me and him got to work on. See, I tell him all the time. But that's what he do, you know, that's his thing. I tell him he needs to switch up the angle sometimes. I don't like that. He's like, no, I'm editing this. I don't like it. I just want it to right. On the court, I see like it. You like it? I honestly like it. See, thank you. Thank you. I honestly like it. Thank you, Cam, God. Thank you. Because I don't see any other podcasts. They got either no cameras or it's just one camera. He's still gonna have all three, but switch up the angle. I don't want to do that. But he doesn't want to do that. But maybe at some point, I might get one more camera. How are you saying it? Look, I don't know how your idea is saying it. Yeah, yeah. Well, don't tell us you're wrong. Let it be right. I got to go home with this woman, man. So. Don't embarrass me in front of these folks. But you guys, man. So, you know, the thing I said, y'all got to keep coming over here because y'all knowledge, I appreciate y'all for always helping me. When I pick up the phone and call you, if I need some information, if I ask you something about what's going on with some, you always gonna give me a, we said on the phone for hours, we don't play with. We're talking, we said out here. Yeah, but like what I call you, you like, we get started talking and, you know, I can talk. So I'm gonna be like, yeah, what about this? What about that? You know what I'm saying? You can offer, because before I can start again where I'm, you know, where I'm at now. I mean, I've been doing what I've been doing. Yeah. But I'm always elevating. Yeah, yeah. I off about Vegas or whatever I'm doing. You're like, like, shit, my money, sometimes I needed me some, some funds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes I couldn't pay my mom a fucking bill. Yeah. And you was like, hey, you need some, you know. I showed it. Yeah. I'm like, I'm gonna help you out. Yeah. Well, watch out now. Never. I just come over and just do something together. Cause I just feel like, I do that all the time. I do that with him. Like if I got a, if it's an opportunity and we can work together and figure something out and you might need something, I might need you to help me or whatever. That's what it's supposed to be about. It's supposed to be about helping each other. I was waiting for you to travel again so I could go. And the only thing that thing kind of slammed me. You know, that guy that's sitting behind you, COVID ain't slow thing. Slow. Not in Atlanta. Not in Atlanta for sure. Also, as far as this video work. Y'all wrote it. This video work. When the COVID, when Corona started, I'm telling you, like people ask me like, y'all should be asking any care man. Like, hey, did the Corona slow you down? No, it did not. You know why? You know why? Because people are, they need that connection to the social media streams and all that stuff. And you guys are gonna make it look good for them. They not really getting out like they was, like as much as, so when they hit the scene, they want it to be perfect. When I told people. And who better deal with than y'all? What I said, what I was telling people as far as even if they want to shoot videos, shoot content or whatever it is, it looks like the walking dead outside. So, you know, when you go to Deep Elm, there's nobody outside and the city looks. You will kill it too on them scenes. You'll kill it. So, I was telling people to do that. Cause at first when the Corona happened, I ain't gonna lie to you. The first two weeks I was like, man, what am I gonna do? I started looking for a job. I started calling jobs. I started. Not sure. Sean, I already thinking I'm gonna do this. I saw it straight. It was good. They was straight. See them. You still doing that, right? I know my boy J Cruz told me the other night. He telling me to move. He on TV too. Yeah, yeah, y'all kicking it. He told us. Yeah, yeah. And I'm gonna be honest with you, man. Y'all don't seem like y'all hurting. You know what I'm saying? When I look, I'm like, oh, they charging for that. Then they can't get there for free. I'm looking at every video that pop up. Oh yeah, you got him on that one. Oh yeah. And I say, but he reasonable, you know. But on your videos, how long does it take for you to edit? Depends on what tends on a video. It depends on when I'm already booked. Cause some people will call, like I got it with 2G Cash. 2G Cash, he's an artist that's just now about to, you know, blow up out of Dallas. And he got a murder charge, but he's on house arrest. So I got a call from his manager, Shamar, and was like, hey, you know, I'm gonna shoot a video today, you know, tomorrow, you know, today. So I'm like, shoot, all right, boom. Gotta get it. But I also had shoots today. You gotta interview today. You gotta another shoot today. So it depends on what I gotta do. Or, you know, if they pay extra, they pay like drop that cash, you can get it done the same day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta pay for that. Yeah, I said, I said. You have family? Oh, sorry. To me, I say two to three weeks. Two to three weeks. Because depending on the work, like. He romantic. Yeah. He very romantic. He's a perfectionist. I might have another video. Video, he gonna work it in there. I might have another video tomorrow to shoot, you know. I might have an interview. You can go to the club that night. And people do not understand that. The edit. The edit. It takes a long time. It depends. It's kind of what you're doing. Like I'm doing our, our episodes. And I'm just, you know, going through it like. I give you some of this. I'll be at home. But see, that's how I got the name Kamga, too. Because I will be at four clubs in one night. And I will edit or I have pictures. You know, I was doing pictures at first. I was doing pictures at first. And then I ended up getting with Bebe. And then me and Bebe, I shot at Austin Ave. And then we went to Shreveport at Coco Pellis the next day. You just go down there? I like Coco Pellis. I only go there once. I like it. Yeah, I like it. You never been? It's closed now, right? I don't know. I think it's closed now. I'm not for sure, but. Bebe had me shoot. That was the first, the first time I ever did a recap. The first, I was like, he sent me a, he sent me a example. He said, I want the video look like this. Send me Stack Moses. Now Stack Moses. Now that is the, you know, he's dope, dope, dope. He was with French Montana. OK. You know, and Stack Moses videos is amazing, amazing. You know, so I was like, bro, you want me to shoot? You want me to edit like how he got his videos? I can't, I don't know. So it took, it was taking me a four days, five days just to do a one minute clip from the club. Do like a, I was like, I don't know how to do it. I'm like, this is the best I can do. What you learned though, didn't you? That's what made me start stepping up to do videos. So you, what do you think it's the first, what is the first quarter? So, so how's it, how y'all thinking that y'all going to break the bank this year? Is this a good, is this the year that everything going through? The first quarter start off great. So you start off nicely. Y'all going to try to make, you know, I'm not going to count your money. I know you niggas doing good. You know what I'm talking about? Hey, I ain't going to lie to you, I'm poor. I'm poor. But I'm, you know, God provides every time when the monk come pay the bills. Say, you don't look poor when you jumping out of these airplanes in these different states and, no, don't look poor at all. Say, say, don't, don't get it twisted. Don't not get it twisted. Cause sometimes you'll get a call and be like, and you'll look at it as an opportunity. And it looked like, cause I'm working with this person like I'm getting paid, but it's not. Cause people in thought when I was with MTV Wild, I'd be like, oh man, he getting his bread with you. Nah, nigga, that's an opportunity. I'm not asking them people for no money. And that's what people miss out sometimes. It's not about, you know, cause them people don't owe you shit, but they have the opportunity for you to go other places because now, if I'm shooting a major, clothing line or something like that, or made in a major jewelry line, and I'm just shooting their pictures, now I can go to all these other people and I can be like, hey, this is what I shot. This is what I have. And this is who it's for. They don't know if I did that shit for free, but they know the quality of it is good. So they're like, all right, well I'm gonna pay you 10,000 for that. So that's the opportunity. Just opening up opportunities man for you anyway, once you start linking with certain people. And you guys get the calls, like certain guys that come into town, they know that they've worked with y'all before previously and they see the work. And I'm pretty sure y'all get those calls again, you know, when people fly in the Dallas, right? Right. So that's the good thing about being good at what you do. And I think that's something that I appreciate. And that's what's good with building those relationships as we go, cause sometimes we're in it. Okay, I have one more question. Oh, okay, I wish I did that. With y'all being so busy as you say you are, how do you fix family life into your business? Fuck family. Whoa, no, no, no, let's go, let's go. No, no, he's single, that's a single man statement. That's a single man statement. That man got his own way over it, don't do that. Don't do that, Cam God is tripping. He's single. You gotta sacrifice, you gotta sacrifice. You sacrifice friends, family, if you with your family, y'all, that's a single man statement. I know, but having a woman at home and you're always gone, they're gonna be like, babe, can we get us time this weekend or us time? You shaking your head? No, I don't. No, single, still. The boy's single. He's talking to you. He running through Dallas. I'm the same way, like, gotta go to work, gotta go to work. You gotta make sure you prioritize. But you still gotta find time to. That's woman, see the woman different than the, y'all know this, right? Nah, it's either you join in what I'm doing, you know, be around what I'm doing. Hold the camera. Hold my bag, you know what I'm saying? Get a lens or something. Come to the interview. See, because when I started, when I started exactly, come to the interview, come where I'm at, you know what I'm saying? So you don't stop them from coming with you? We can do whatever the hell I do, whatever the fuck I wanna do. Whoever I wanna bring, hey, that's my assistant. When I go out, if I'm going overseas, if I'm going to another state, hey, this is girl. I get to bring my assistant. That's my assistant. That's a lie. So they have to pay for her. That's your old lady and you tripping. But I'm saying, you probably create an opportunity for these women out here. I see what's going on now. I could, I could. You don't say it fully, they listen. They gotta listen. You don't say it. You gotta train them up. Say, man, y'all, this is, hey, this is great, man. Hey, man, boss talk 101, man. We gonna get you guys back over here, man. So you gotta do a drop before you leave. And I don't care if you don't want to. Hey, man, it's been a, hey, it's a unique hustle. It's boss talk 101. And we out.