 Welcome to this session of the Intuitive Medicine Summit, where we'll explore ways to intuitively participate in our own healing. I'm Lisa Bunnies, your host and my guest for this session is Dr. Tiffany Barsotti. Our topic today is working with medical intuitives, learning to trust and how to verify. Dr. Tiffany Barsotti is a spiritual and medical intuitive counselor and subtle energy specialist teaching no-thigh-self tools for achieving clarity of life purpose, spiritual maturity, and healing psycho-spiritual, emotional, energetic root causes of illness. Tiffany, thank you so much for joining us today. I'm so looking forward to our chat. Welcome. Thank you. I'm really happy to be here with you and having this chat as well. And just to clarify, so because Dr. Miss can mix people up a little bit, I am not a medical doctor. I have a doctorate in complementary alternative medicine. All right. Well, thank you so much for clarifying that. I think that's very important. So let's go ahead and dive right in because we've got so much to talk about. Let's start out with medical intuition practices. It's sort of in some areas of the world, this is not really something that's easily accessible. So how do you see them being included in the future of clinical settings? Well, if it's welcomed, it could be an amazing tool to have a team be able to go into places that places what I mean is in the psyche, in one's spiritual development, in one's just orientation of life. It's interesting. I was just having a conversation with Christiane Northrop. If you know who she is, she wrote many books, but the wisdom of, I'm going to mess that up, but her wisdom body, the wisdom of women's bodies or something. Anyway, she would always offer to her patients because she at the time was working with one of my teachers who was Carolyn Mace. And she would always offer to her patients, do you want to know the reason why you are having this experience? So having a physician be able to open that conversation, my God, think about the empowerment that can happen. Then it's actually just about choice because then some patients chose, yes, I want to know why, especially when it's a recurring kind of thing. And some people chose, nope, I just give me the medicine, do the surgery, do whatever is needed. So based on choice, it can really be empowering for a person and it opens up a whole other level of whole person thinking, whole person inclusion. So I think the future could be quite amazing if there were intuitives included in medical practices. I think the important thing in a clinical setting is that there's not a view of competition. And I have personally run into that and wow, I mean, that's not my frame of thinking at all. It's about what's the betterment going to be for the situation because it's about getting people better and getting people better faster. And if we can include all of the facets of the personality included with the soul's mission, wow, think how much faster we could actually get the healing on underway. Well, it's really interesting that you mentioned the competition. Are you talking about between the intuitive and the doctor? Sometimes. Interesting. So that brings to mind the way that doctors used to be thought of as gods. You didn't question them. Is that where that's coming from? Yeah, yep. You know what, I can't say that definitively. I don't really know. But I think that we all really care about getting things right. And if we didn't, then yes, it would be great if we could just have more of an all-inclusive. But it's like, well, who's ended up being right here? And I find it the opposite of helpful, of course. But nevertheless, it has been something that I have seen. It's not the majority, but it does happen. Yeah, I can see that. And I'm so glad that we're bringing this up, because it's a dynamic we need to watch out for if we're trying to find a team like this. Now, I also love that you mentioned that some people don't want to know. Now, I would be just flipping cartwheels if a doctor asked me something like this. Yes, please. What is it about people that didn't want to know? Did they either not believe in the mind-body or they were afraid of what they might find out? What do you think was the cause for that? Afraid of what they might find out. And afraid that something is so out of their control that they can't do anything about it. And when we think about the elements of medicine, it feels, well, I can take this drug and it's going to do X, Y, Z. Or I could have this procedure and it's going to do what the doctor said. Now, there's something really important here to bring up about one's own intuition, because if let's say there was on the table that you were about to have a procedure of some type and everything in your whole, in your gut, in your knowing, in your whole psyche is saying, no, don't do it. And you do it anyway. That's when we're really likely to have more suffering, because we actually violated our own intuition. And that's a really important thing, especially also from the role of a medical intuitive. The really, I see our job is being able to empower another. One of my teachers always said, use your intuition to ask questions, not always give answers. And then that has to make us very creative of, all right, what's going to be the best way that I could bring this topic that I know to be so important, but it's got to be the Socratic method to allow the opening, because if the question isn't asked, and we just go and insert a lot of information, I have seen that also backfire. I'm also thinking that sometimes people might be, it might be suggested to them that you need to get out of this toxic relationship, which hearing something like that is like, it's sometimes it's a deal breaker, because if you're in a toxic relationship, it's next to impossible to get out of. So in order to make these changes for your health, you have to do what seems to be impossible. Is that something that you've that you've come up against? Most definitely. It's a very common one. I'm really glad that you brought it up, Lisa, because I'm actually working with a client right now and we're on pause because I can't be of any more assistance if I, unless she asks, of course, but if the openness isn't there to all things being on the table that we're willing to make a change about, our bodies, our skin are very sensitive to toxicity. I mean, think if you were drinking a toxic poison every day, that would be a deleterious effect to the whole bodily structure, but it's a softer kind of trauma that we don't realize that we're doing in toxic relationships. And it's also so familiar that we may sometimes on a psychic level make excuses for why we're doing what we're doing. And then also if you grew up in a childhood that was abusive, then that's going to be in some frames of mind normal. And that's some of what we're undoing. But one of the things about operating really in grace is that we have to wait for the subconscious to bring to the level of consciousness so that this thing can be dealt with. So if a person by the same token says, I think it's my toxic relationship, can you help me get out of it? Well, that's a very different thing than saying, okay, we got to the part in our work where we know it's your relationship, but now you're not ready to do anything about it. So now we're in a holding pattern to, it's a wait and see. What is this person going to be able to do? Yeah, yeah. And I reckon the answer to that, if you're really sort of stuck is baby steps, making effort a little bit every day, work your way out of it. Now you also mentioned patterns. My ears sort of perked up there because I had a session with a medical intuitive about a year ago because I had a pattern of every five years or so over the course of my entire life of damage to my face. I kept getting whacked in the face, whacked in the face, whacked in the face and I would break my nose and my teeth were being chipped and I mean my face was being pummeled throughout my life and eventually it ended up causing damage on the inside of my head that I had to have surgery for me. It was this massive thing. And it turned out that the medical intuitive saw that in a past life, I had been shot in the face as a soldier. So this was sort of a reverberating energetic pattern that I was still living out. But I wonder, first of all, do you often see that kind of thing or is there another perhaps reason for patterns to develop? It's such a juicy question. Thank you, Lisa. Patterns are really everything. Every thought creates a hormone in our body. That creates patterns in itself. And yes, this is so important what you got to because ultimately the patterns are leading us to where there's unfinished business. And if we don't consider some people having their cosmological belief of reincarnation or past lives, but even if you don't necessarily believe that, we've been on Earth's recycling program for five billion years approximately. And so we come from a lineage of people. So where there hasn't been things that have been completed, then those patterns can also show up in familial situations. And so the patterns, yes, you spoke to a big one where a recurring illness or recurring something is trying to get your attention. And from my point of view, as a therapist that works with people is, well, what was it that happened in that life that would now bring completion so that you don't have to keep getting whacked in the head or the face with anything that is trying to get your attention? Patterns and anniversaries are really interesting. So I had a client that she was having recurrent spinal meningitis. Well, that's weird. It's an infection. And you don't typically think about something as a recurrent spinal meningitis. And most physicians will say, well, then it's just been misdiagnosed. It's MS. It's like, no, it's spinal taps tell you whether or not you have an infection circulating in your body. So this was absolutely for five years, kind of on and off a little bit, but three to four different occurrences of spinal meningitis. What we found is that this person in this same life in that month that this was happening for her, she would get these fevers, she would get all of these kinds of things. And that would be sort of the warning. Well, what had happened many years earlier is a person and spine has to do with feeling safe in the world. So a person that she was dating, kind of a sociopath, for real, pulled a gun on her and threatened her life. And she barely got out of that situation. So years after that was setting up this, am I going to survive this situation? Well, meningitis is nothing to mess around with. And so anyway, since resolving that, she has not had a recurrence. What she might have are little flares of fevers or maybe even type of a herpes outbreak or something like that, but nothing as drastic as spinal meningitis. So what that tells us is that there's actually still some work to do to clean that up. And oftentimes, I think we can all say, my God, that again, that again, like, why am I working with that again? This kind of pattern. And it's because there's another level and another layer being revealed for our healing. So we don't, it's not usually a one and done. I wish it were. But when it's life lesson oriented, we usually have a recurrence of something so that we really, really get it. Like what is the point of this? Wow, fascinating. So then what about like the anniversaries of perhaps a loved one's death or something that brings up sorrow? Is it maybe bringing up also memories of unfinished business? Does that work that way as well? Yeah, so that's actually especially poignant when a person has not totally processed grief. And even if they have, of course, on anniversaries, we're going to have memories of that person and all of that. But the anniversary of someone dying, it could be triggering to abandonment. It could be so many elements of, Oh, it could actually be the opposite of freedom. That person abused me. And now I feel free. You know, there could be, there's no necessarily exact pattern for how it appears in someone's life. It's just the thing to pay attention to if we're having recurring experiences. And sadness is, is part of grief. And it also asks us, I really like Carla McLaren's work on, on this topic of sadness asks us what needs to be rejuvenated in us and ultimately let go. So that really harkens true when we're talking about grief, because it does require us to let go. And that may not be so easy for some of us. Yeah, absolutely. Now, we're talking about sort of future possibilities in medicine. And one of the things that I'm most interested and fascinated by, and I don't know enough about, is Star Trek medicine, you know, like the scanners that the doctors on the enterprise would use where they would just scan the body and they would read the energy field. And I've even had testing done where they'll use a probe on acupressure points where they can then read your energy. Do you know anything about these? And are those also considered to be tools in an intuitive tool bag? Well, they can. And it's a great question. Because some people, some purists or shamans or intuitives might say, well, that's cheating. You're using a device or something. And it's like, well, first of all, we're living in the 21st century and our technologies have gotten so much smarter. So if we could use something as an adjunct, so I use the bio well in my practice, and it does require a person to be present with me, because you need the fingertips. But the, I mean, my intuition works, even if it's at a distance. So it's not like I need the bio well to do the work where a device comes in handy is another person not having to take my word for it. They can see it themselves because once again, it's about empowering the person. I don't want somebody to just feel like they need to be latched to my intuition for their well being that that's the opposite of helpful. We want a person to feel empowered and start turning on their own mechanisms of intuition. And devices can help us in being able to do that. Actually, I have a really good anecdote. It's a funny work. I had a person walk in my office and I saw that she was really not in her body. And I'm very emotionally disconnected. And I was like, we got to work on emotions. How am I going to work with this person? Her physician sent her to me and said, I need you to work on subconscious blocks. Because I see that they're showing up in her blood work. I see how they're showing up in these ways. This is a beautiful way of how to work in team. And so when she showed up in my office, I was like, oh, this one's going to be interesting. Okay. So what the Biowell showed when I put her on it is something so enlightening for her. It had, because the Biowell shows chakras. And it shows the straight up and down, which is not altogether always normal, but outside of her body. So we have a midline of how we expect our chakras to be moving around. That's healthy. So this kind of alignment thing that we all think, oh, we're supposed to always be in alignment with our chakras. That's just not true. We want to be flexible in our nervous system with being able to take in our environments to respirate it, to digest it, and then be able to do something with it. So that's totally normal. But this woman, she was showing up with all her chakras lined up outside. And I was like, wow, she's like, what does that mean? I was like, we need to get you in your body. Because it's going to be very difficult for you to heal if you're not in your body. And she had a second recurrence of bladder cancer. And she was in a precarious situation where her physician didn't like that she was working alternatively and threatened to say, listen, if you're going to work in this way, I'm not interested. So her oncologist actually ended up firing her because she did make the dedicated practice to, I'm going to do this with my own emotions. I'm going to do this with my own intuition and my own energy. I don't need my bladder cut out. This was her conviction. And so what we ended up also finding on the Biowell is that she had an abscess tooth that happened to be on the kidney meridian, kidney bladder meridian. And well, how telling is that? So really, she had no idea that was there. So it was a completely asymptomatic sensation that was going on in her body. So the Biowell in that regard, that was like an ally for all of us to not be chasing stuff around, but work very quickly, got her to a holistic dentist. I'm happy to report many years later, she's very healthy, has her bladder, and is living a thriving life. Wow. So many questions come up just out of that anecdote. Let me start with, first you said that you saw that she was outside of her body. And I wonder if I'm going to use my own example here where sometimes when I was younger, I felt like I didn't want to be actually inside this physical casing because it hurts in here. And it keeps me stuck. And it was always just sort of felt better to be out of it. And then eventually I realized, well, that's not really the healthiest way to be. But is that something that happens in your experience as well? Or am I a one-off? Oh my gosh, no. This is quite common. And especially for a lot of us sensitives, and I'm going to put you in that category, even though I don't know you well, my sense is, is that you are a sensitive, that you have an intuitive knowing. And really, you should never question that. That is just something that you've learned to really, you know, strike a pose with, like, ah, okay, I've got this. So it's really about making the commitment to life where many of us didn't want to be here. I very much have the reluctant healer story. It's on my website. I've told it multiple times in multiple domains because I didn't want this job. I didn't even want, I didn't want to be here. It's like, Earth is not the easiest place to come and duke it out and learn our lessons. So yeah, it's easier to be outside. But as you learned, it's very difficult to get anything done. It's very difficult to learn. And we ultimately do need to be making a commitment to our corporal structures. And this is a call to all sensitives and all intuitives and people that feel overwhelmed by being an empath. It's, there's work to do. And yes, it's uncomfortable. But right now, really in the world, we need all hands on deck for being able to tip the scales of including our incredible senses of knowing our sixth sense, our gut sense. It's really time. So I'm so glad you came around to it. I had to too. It's really just about a willingness. Right, right. Yeah, absolutely. Now, another thing I wanted to ask you about was, you mentioned earlier that the spine represents something. And then you were talking about this woman with bladder cancer. And I'm wondering if, from what I understand, it could mean that when you've got bladder cancer, and pardon my French, is that it's that you're pissed off. You got it. Interesting. So how can we, I guess, if we're working on our own, maybe we don't have access to a medical intuitive or the appointment is four weeks away and we need an answer now, how can we sort of tune into the messages that our bodies are sending us through the symbolism of where things are located and the the the abscess tooth? How can we tell? That's tricky. That's where I'm really grateful to having an ally such as a tool to be able to look. Because yes, I could have seen that there was an infection going on and something more systemic. But my consciousness may have been saying, all right, we need to work on the inflammation. We made we need to work on other things in it would not necessarily have been as pinpointed as it was in that exact moment for having a tool. But you you bring up, this is absolutely right. She was very pissed off as well. She was pissed off at her husband, who, you know, she's she was also sensitive and empath type person, but out of her body and married or going through a divorce to a narcissist. So unfortunately, that's the match made in hell. And it is very common. And so oftentimes, there takes this strength to be able to find that in order to do whatever is is needed next in order to save your own life. How many people die needlessly, because they didn't get the message from their body. Another common one is breast cancer. It's the tendency to over give to others. And you know, think about it from the breasts perspective of giving life, of giving sustenance, of giving nurturing. And when we're over nurturing, that's the part of the body. It's also part of the heart chakra. So broken hearts from grief, the grief that has never been processed or healed. You know, the body is definitely speaking in a symbolic way. And really, you asked the the really good question is, if your appointment is so far out, everyone has an own inner physician. It's nice to be working with other people for sure. And it can really help to speed up the process. But when I settle in and I want to listen to my body, and even though it might be screaming at me, everything might be screaming at me, we ask questions such as, well, what is the source? What is my liver is angry? Okay. About what? Because we will usually be led to the an event, a person, a situation, we can see little vignettes, or we could just have a sensation of knowing. And that's something there's a little breadcrumbs to follow. So really just getting quiet with yourself and being able to listen. I've had plenty of circumstances like that before I hung a shingle as an intuitive, because I was born open, which was like torture, but the being able to systematize the language of the body really just takes practice. And your willingness. Yeah, okay. I also want to ask you, you mentioned breast cancer being related to giving life, nurturing, et cetera. But what about the flip side where breasts are seen as boobs, where they're supposed to be these sex toys, and they have to look perfect and perky and not saggy. And there's all this pressure on women for them to look a certain way. And what if they don't? And what if you don't want them to? What if you don't want that kind of attention? Can you tell I'm speaking from experience here? What, how does that affect that area of the body? Yeah, so a lot of that from my experience is self worth is there may have been something in our childhood that gave us this notion of, oh, I have to look a certain way. Barbie is really not helpful, right? You know, these these ways that we have a biosymbolism, that's a Dr. Mario Martinez's word that I really like, that is our cultural feedback system of that the symbolism that's out there actually speaks to our biology. And being able to be tapped into that. Yes. But there was also I have patterns in my body from comments that my father made to me seeing me in a bathing suit. And it's, it's so hurtful. And, and so we grow up thinking that we are less than or our self worth got hurt and attacked. And that is coming from, especially when it's coming from a parent or a loved one, that you know really in their heart loves you unconditionally. So when some kind of attack comes like that, it's or from the society. But what what's happening is, is that in that case, the putting the needs before others is is still at play. Because you're not in your own personal power making the decision. Okay, yes, I'm going to get these because I like them. Well, you might like them. And if you could do that from a completely resolved place, because it makes you feel empowered and good, fantastic. But looking at the motivation of what made us maybe do something at the physical level. You know, where was that coming from? Was that coming from a place of personal power and self worth? Or was it coming from a place where I'm less than. And that very much sends signals to the immune system. Thank you for answering that. I think I'm probably not the only one wonders about that type of thing. Let me come back to something that you said. Actually, quite a while ago, you were talking about how a medical intuitive should probably be careful, maybe filter what they share and what they don't share. How do you decide what to actually tell somebody and what to sort of, I don't know, do you sugarcoat it? Do you use euphemisms? How do you do that? So it's a tricky one. It can be. First of all, I subscribe to the belief and find evidence for the subconscious is never going to bring anything to our conscious awareness that we cannot handle. Now, if I'm doing a scan of someone, I've actually had my guides come in and say, don't finish that sentence. Don't finish that sentence. I'm like, oh, okay, now what? So I have to. You're always modulating. What can the person handle right now? This is really important because there's especially the person that let's say there's a lot of head injuries or something like this. Their cognitive thinking isn't so regulated and their nervous system also may be very dysregulated. So throwing more information into a person's field that is already very dysregulated is not helpful. And I also say that if a person has a broken body or a broken brain, it's very difficult to do all the emotional work. So my intuition might be taking me to an emotional root cause of where we need to go, but then it's about timing and then it's about communicating. Here's what I see. Here's the plan and I may only give a snippet of what I'm seeing until I know that there's enough strength in that person's psyche. Let's say they just came freshly out of a trauma and we're going to and we know that the root cause is a much bigger trauma that the person hasn't even had come to their level of awareness yet. I can see it. It's not my job to insert that as an idea. Oh, well, I see that this happened in a past life or this person did something to you. That needs to come up organically and then you work. This is how I work at least. You work with what is coming up because then it's like the subconscious permission and still at the outer self level, the personality level, we could suppress. We could say, no, there's no way I'm going there. All right, well, then that's going to turn into anxiety or depression or other things later on because the subconscious is trying to bring something to the level of your awareness and you're saying, no, I'm not going to go there. That's another set of problem that I will say, hey, this is where we need to go and you've had the insight and you're not doing it. So let's talk about the willingness. What are you afraid will happen to you if you do go there? So there's layers and subtlety to this and really the person trusting themselves is so important because even with, there's a lot of charlatans out there. There's a lot of people, there's fools gold that's out there. So we want to have our discernment about us, even whether we're in the receiving chair or we're in the giving chair of being the intuitive or the person that's receiving the information. The discernment is very key and I saw, I always was looking for answers for why my life was the way it was when I was a teenager. So I was always going to see psychics and not one of them was ever accurate, not one, not even one little piece. And I was just like, oh, this is a bunch of crap. I spent all my teenager money that I had looking for answers and not one was ever accurate. And I had the insight one day come to me is stop looking outside yourself and you're also trying to violate be here now. And that was really such a teaching moment for me is I'm just going to be with what is happening in this moment, because the bigger stressors are trying to figure things out in the future, trying to control things that are going on in the future. It's not, it's futile. So being able to find that balance of internal listening and yeah, taking things in from a person, but also have your own filter, anyone, all of us need our own filters. Does is that accurate for me or was that a projection? Does that relate to resonance where you're actually resonating with the person you're working with? That's a great point. Yes, it can. So the thing about resonance is that it's very neutral. There's the neutrality is you can get sick because of resonance, or you can get well because of resonance. So if you think about nothing can happen to us without resonance. And you just really the cogitate that of on that for a moment is just like, wow, that's actually kind of true. If you attracting something to yourself, magnetically, then ah, okay, this is some this is up for me right now. This is an opportunity for my learning. All right, that resonant thing is an important piece for my development and evolution. And then also there's the resonance of if that person says something to me could be a friend could be an intuitive it could be it doesn't matter what walk of life they're from where wow that that really resonated. There was something in the way that that was phrased that made me have a whole body knowing. And that's another resonance. Okay, we can take this in so many different directions as well where we're talking about toxic relationships earlier where maybe somebody really does resonate with being in that kind of situation. But now their body is telling them, you don't really resonate with this anymore because it's causing, you know, physical things to start happening here. So you need to start resonating elsewhere. And I can also see where addictions would would be a resonance kind of thing. How do you begin to stop resonating with something that isn't good for you. So yeah, thank you for the clarification on this and going there. It's once again going to be a timing thing in your example of a toxic relationship. The there comes a point a tipping point usually in everyone's life where they realize, oh, wow, this is my third round of a toxic relationship. Wow, what is in me is attracting this what what is it and whether or not it's even you thinking you're attracting it. There's something to extract there's some gold to extract out of all right what lesson am I intending to teach myself. It's like it's different crap same sorry different people same crap right there's an opportunity in when you see the repeating events about all right. This time for me to have a wake up call here. And if we skipped over that opportunity to leave a toxic situation, if we skipped over that, then yes, we are you can expect the spiritual two by four, you can expect the bigger wake up call. Because you were warned you you've been given ample information about who this isn't healthy. Everybody around me tells me this isn't healthy, but there's a resonance this is and I want to tease this out a little bit further. This is going into a new territory as well but it's related to resonance. If a person has had a lot of abuse in their life. And let's say it did come from a parent or somebody or somebody that raised them where unconditional love is present. That person may have abuse and unconditional love locked together. So it and the work then is then to decouple these things. So I have worked with people where I'm literally sending them unconditional love. I'm sending that to them like in the ethers and I asked them to feel what it is that I'm sending can you pick it up because there's so much in body language there's so much that happens out in the world that we can pick up and filter. So if I'm doing this in a conscious way and I'm sending a person unconditional love and they cower and they they go like oh my god what was that? I'm like okay so this is where we're going to work because there is something in the resonant factor of a bit of a mismatch. We're not supposed to be abused when more kids these things are not supposed to happen whether it's a soft abuse of emotional abuse or physical abuse these kinds of things they're not no they're not supposed to happen in an ideal world but we they are our learning opportunities. So when we're talking about this connection that ultimately needs the decoupling it's to make sense out of why a person continues to attract the same type of relationship over and over again because love looks like abuse. So that's where the work is to say okay wait I get this that's actually not love. So that that's some examples of that. Seems like from the intuitive perspective it might be a little difficult to work with people who I guess I don't know exactly how to say this so let me say it clumsily and hopefully you'll understand that they expect the intuitive to do all the work to tell them what's wrong and then fix it. So how do you work with somebody like that who actually just really needs to be encouraged to access their own personal power? This is such an important thing sometimes people will show up to a session and it's just like well read me you're the psychic and first of all no I am not doing parlor tricks no that is not what this is about and also I don't know if you know the history but Carolyn Mace this is one of the things that made her swear that she would never do a reading again. She was in a situation where a woman she was a volunteer out of the audience and the woman was sitting in front of Carolyn and she asked her Carolyn asked her some questions about what's going on and the woman sort of sat there and like well you're the intuitive read me and Carolyn got up because you know she can be a bit feisty got up and said that's it I'm never doing another reading again and in fact I'm actually going to teach you how to do how to do the readings yourself and from that day forward began the whole movement of the science of medical intuition of how it is that we can help people help themselves instead of being dependent on another person so what if a person comes to me with that what I want to tease out immediately is is the person in a victim place because it's really difficult to heal when you're in a victim place where you are either looking for somebody else to blame or control or whatever and some people in earnest they're confused they really don't know where to go and then so I'm sensing where is that question coming from is this really the time for a person to start to awaken within them and and sometimes I might ask them back well you've been living in yourself longer what do you think is going on and then it will begin a whole conversation and I'm not passing the buck I'm listening for more information and it's also purposeful to help confirm whether or not they got on it at least from my perspective and most times people do some people dodge it and and I'm like yeah that's partially right but here's where we need to go so there there can be a whole gamut of of experiences as far as that's concerned but number one with medical intuitives we're not doing tricks we're not just you know it's not a card reading it's not a and there's nothing wrong with any of those things I'm not putting them down it's just the expectation of a person coming to a medical intuitive just looking for all the answers it's it's meant to be a little bit more therapeutic for growth well then I wonder when when somebody might be uh resistant or frightened by information that they're getting um how much do emotions play a role in this is that maybe they're they're afraid to express their emotions or they express them too much how where where do those come into play well I'm always finding that emotions are at the root cause always even if you're 40 years old and and something happened so there could be let's say an example of a four-year-old where the family dynamic is so toxic the child is absorbing it all so the child might be in and out of doctor's appointments and and different things like that and the parents are like well looking for how do we make the kid better oil it might be in the environment of the home like what else needs to get looked at as far as that's concerned so because you would think oh a four-year-old doesn't have all their emotions on on board so how does that apply but they're very susceptible and open children children are incredibly exquisitely sensitive to what's going on in the environment and even what's said and what's not being said and as far as adults the ownership of emotions you know we're really as far as what I see now in the evolution of the planet is we've got the mental fields sort of down around the planet we know how to mentalize things we know how to do industry what it feels to me that we are refining at a humanitarian level just the level of humanity is our emotions learning how our emotional IQ learning access to oh wow this makes me feel and no that's not woo-woo that is just you feeling that yes we all have sensations in our bodies well where is that coming from and then being able to interview ourselves to say ah okay and you know what every time I'm in this situation or I'm with X type of people I'm always feeling somehow less than or I'm playing small all right well what is that like it could have been like when you had an older brother or sister that beat the crap out of you because they didn't think that you had a place in playing on the field you know all of these these things they have a root cause so tracking the emotions can help us be able to get there and once again you don't need an intuitive to do that that is something that you as we start to work on our own language our own efficacy in understanding the language of our bodies then it really can rise to the level of our awareness so that we can do something about it yeah I'm really glad that we've gone down this path because if you don't mind let me let me just say that while you were talking about the four-year-old and the environment around them I was remembering my parent my dad was a screamer and he was I mean he's a wonderful man I knew he loved me but he was scary he was bigger than me and I can remember being being small and just like you know just powering and shrinking getting smaller and smaller and smaller and as you were talking I could feel down in my gut just like right just below my navel and right above it just this sort of line of sort of energy so I'm feeling something and I don't really know what to do with that so how do I then read what my body is telling me when I'm thinking about shrinking as a four-year-old beautiful so Lisa how do you do you get angry I do yes well I mean we all do but I know that I have my father's temper and I have learned from seeing how he behaved with his temper I've learned to temper my temper but that also means that I don't express it exactly that that's that's what I thought was was part of going on there yes you may have a temper but because you saw how it was actually used there's a couple of things that can happen at a scenarios like what you just described either a child and an adult will come out of that situation not feeling that anger is ever appropriate and there's no room for anger in the family life well that's a really important thing because the appropriate use of anger is to set boundaries and at some point in our lives we're going to need to set boundaries so if we don't have a healthy relationship with anger then we are going to modulate that stuff it down because of how it was overused or super scary like when that part of me comes out it scares the crap out of me not just everybody else around me all right so then it's like trying to put the Hulk in the bottle or something like that so there needs to be an expression and and finding what is appropriate to be said or expressed is very appropriate and you said that down in your gut so was it between your navel your navel and your solar plexus or was it lower it was actually sort of like say this is my navel it's like from here to here so it's sort of just running right up the center of my abdomen so I mean what is the meaning of that area of the body specific is there a meaning that I'm looking for oh yeah so personal power so this is this is really important when it comes to making decisions it's really important to being able to trust yourself and taking action in the world and and doing things that you may have to I don't just mean you but anybody that has a situation like this may have to really muster a lot of energy in order for them to go do something well why can't it just come from a place of yeah I want to do this and let's go and and because there may need to be a a healthier relationship of taking action in a way that it hopefully won't be misconstrued by another person so because it is the that's a it's a will center but it's a personal will and how do you feel comfortably in your own will or is there an acquiescing where I give the decisions over to other people because I'm not comfortable in my own personal power of will so all of those kinds of scenarios could be in in that situation okay so then thank you for letting me use myself as an example let's now move this to the people who are watching this what's the best way to begin a self exploration if they had a similar experience maybe not that exact location maybe not that exact story but something else is sort of tingling for them saying you know you should pay attention to this what would be maybe the good first question to ask the the body that's telling them something what am I feeling what just keep it very very simple what what am I feeling and and if it's just oh I'm really uncomfortable okay what what in the situation in was it the environment was it a person what is it in that situation that just made us feel uncomfortable what was the thought I just had that made me feel uncomfortable and then you're usually off you're usually running to like oh okay so that so if you trace back the thoughts it can be really really rewarding and also the conditions you know what there's something I teach I'll be teaching it in the the shift course about the the three key questions for discernment and the discernment is so so so important that especially when we're a sensitive we can feel like we get punched in the gut and it may not be our emotion at all so being able to tease out is this mine is this not mine is really important so sometimes we especially as being sensitive and empaths and people who are open will receive something and then you can't process everybody else's emotions so first of all you know if you're having a response to something it that's you're the only one in the room then it's probably something as a result of what you were just thinking or something that may have just happened you know within a short period of time but it also could be that you just went to a mental memory of something and then then it would still be important to tease out so what's some discernment that I could have with myself were these my emotions yeah wow thank you so much for for uh letting me sort of take you down that that extra little path there um I want to make sure we are so close to out of time I would love to continue this conversation for hours but we're almost out I want to make sure before we go that I mention your website that's healandthrive.com what will people find on your website if they visit yeah so essentially it is mostly courses that COVID really changed my whole operation I moved from California to North Carolina and I don't have an office where I necessarily see people so it's pretty much all online now and so there's opportunity there to engage and also I do occasionally I open up for free 15 minute consults and a lot of miracles happen in those 15 minute consults and the point is to see if there's resonance is there something for us to be working on together and or sometimes the answers just come in those 15 minutes and it's kind of like my way of giving back to the world in some regards but I have to limit it because my whole day could be spent doing 15 minute consults through yeah all right wow well thank you so much Tiffany this has been an absolutely fascinating conversation I so appreciate you spending some time with us and sharing your experience and your wisdom thank you so much well Lisa thank you for the vulnerability and sharing because you know people really see themselves in in us in the stories that we tell and and so thank you for that because it in live in the conversation even more I appreciate you well my pleasure I'm I'm I'm always glad to share when I think it will help because otherwise I'm just babbling but this felt like it was appropriate so thank you so much again I want to remind everyone I've been talking with Dr. Tiffany Barsoe and I want to thank everyone for joining us I hope you enjoyed this conversation in the Intuitive Medicine Summit