 You about ready? Yes ma'am. Okay. Okay. Welcome to our fall 2021 Office of the Police Oversight Monitor community conversations. I'm Kim Neal, the director and police oversight monitor for the city. We have on the line Catherine Huckabee. Catherine you want to wave? Catherine is the Deputy Police Monitor and Deputy Director for the Office of the Police Oversight Monitor. And then we have Erin Racksdale. Erin and Erin is our newest addition to the department. She is our senior management analyst and handles a lot of special projects. We also who was not with us today. We also have Nathan Benson who is our senior policy advisor and we have Kenneth Smith who is our policy advisor. And then we have a new addition that we'll be starting in a couple weeks as well. So our staff is getting bigger slowly and we're happy about that. And again I want to thank everybody for joining. Catherine's going to go over our engagement opportunities. I'd help if I'm unmuted. Okay so and Kim just looks at me and does okay. So if you have a question please make sure that you put it in the chat section. You can also text us on your cell and that phone number if you've called in is 682-215-6412. Again that's 682-215-6412. We really want to make sure that you complete the survey that we are going to put inside the chat section for you. Once Kim is done with the presentation that is going to be the way that we consolidate all of the feedback together along with the questions and comments that are in the chat section so that we can compile a report for the city. You can always email us at policeoverside at Fort Worth Texas dot com with question comments or concerns as well and visit our website at Fort Worth Texas dot gov o-p-o-m. Said you Catherine or me you're muted. That would be you. We're just having a thing today. Okay so to talk about the history of our officer police oversight monitor. So we're going to just spend a few minutes just giving you a little background and then we're going to go right into the recommendation for the community oversight board which is the juicy information everybody's looking forward to hearing about. So as many of you are aware in November of 2018 Fort Worth task force and race and culture came out with recommendations as it relates to various operations of the city and it was really wrapped around diversity inclusion measures that the city should look at to ensure inclusiveness within the city of Fort Worth. And so one of the subcommittees was a criminal justice subcommittee and it looked at the police department and criminal justice concerns that have been brought forth by the community and out of the recommendations there were three. One of the three recommendations was to create a civilian review board or an alternate alternative form of civilian oversight and really what civilian oversight is all about is getting the community involved with policing in your community. It's a new concept for Fort Worth but it's actually a concept that was created out of the early 1900s and so many cities have adopted some form of civilian oversight and Fort Worth through its Fort Worth task force and race and culture made a recommendation that the city of Fort Worth should move for as well. And as you can imagine it was due to some police shootings in the city in a matter of a few years that many community members were concerned about. And so it really is about police accountability, police oversight as well as transparency of police accountability as it relates to the community and encounters with the community. So it's really all about that and really enhancing community and police relations so that's ultimately the goal of our office and so what the city decided to do was to create the office of the police oversight monitor in February of 2020 by city ordinance and our office is an office where we monitor the police department operations as applicable to encounters with citizens. So anything that applies to the police department as it relates to citizens and inclusiveness and diversity issues we try to monitor those aspects of the police department. One of the biggest concerns we heard from the community was the complaint process when community members filed complaints against the police officers and they felt that that process wasn't transparent enough and it wasn't accountable enough and so those were some of the things that we dug right into at the very beginning and looked at. And so one of our major roles is to monitor that complaint process. We also take complaints against the police officers and we also take commendations for police officers and then we monitor we don't actually do the investigations that's a different form of civilian oversight and that's not the one the city chose to create but we do monitor the investigations of the police department by its police force and so we do that consistently every day that's a primary part of what we do and then in March of 2020 we actually open up our doors and it was just a couple of weeks before actually the city shut down for COVID but we per city ordinance were designated as a civilian oversight agency for the city of Fort Worth and our primary role is definitely to enhance that public trust in the Fort Worth Police Department. So the key components of what we do are as I stated before we do intake complaint and commendations and then we review and monitor investigations of police officers. We also look at policies and procedures of the police department sometimes that's due to a complaint and sometimes that's just looking at their policies and procedures to ensure that they are fair and equitable and that we have transparency as it relates to the community members and what they know what they understand the police policies and practices to be in the city of Fort Worth and from a law enforcement standpoint. We analyze consistently every day policies procedures practices and we do best practices research across the country and sometimes outside of the country to look at what other law enforcement agencies are doing that are working to make it the best fit for Fort Worth and we make those recommendations to the police department as well as to the city manager and deputy city manager over the police department. We of course like we're doing today and I engage in a lot of community engagement so although we had COVID last year we did a number of virtual community engagements across the city I think it was right around 250 of them with various stakeholders various groups that either contacted us to do one or we actually contacted them to reach out to them and we really the purpose of it because we did work shut down was to let our community members know that we were open and ready to do business and we were ready to partner with stakeholders to address policing in the city of Fort Worth and then that same vein because we were brand new we did not have a website we didn't have business cards we didn't even have you know we didn't even have a hotline and so all last year we spent creating all of those things social media presence as well as creating our information dissemination materials so we have brochures we have cards complaint cards that we like to give individuals so they can carry in their wallet if they have a concern about policing and really when I talk about complaints against police officers it may not necessarily be a complaint against the police officer but maybe a concern that you have regarding something that you saw and we may we possibly can help resolve those concerns for you or we can put you in contact with the right folks or mediate the actual issue for you as well as community members public from a public affairs standpoint as I said we we created a social media presence we created a website and so forth and then we also in the coming year this year and in the coming year we'll you'll see our office do more ongoing reporting frankly when we started last year we had two employees and now as I said at the beginning of this we're increasing as we go along so it was hard for us to accomplish all of these components with two employees but we're we're continuing to improve day by day and so next year you should see more reporting from our office as it relates to the recommendations that we're issuing as it relates to the reviews that we're doing and as it relates to any recommendations that we're making regarding policing across the city of Fort Worth and then some of our other other key initiatives we'll talk about further further in the presentation but we have some other key initiatives that we're putting pushing forward in 2020 you're muted Catherine yeah I need more coffee or something today so Kim has covered a little bit of this but we all know that one of the biggest challenges that sometimes we have as a city is to share all the things that we have already been able to accomplish we're so focused on getting things done for the future so we want to make sure that everyone is aware of what what has already happened and like I said Kim already talked about some of this but one of the things that we're most proud of is the fact that we've been able to do over 250 virtual and in-person meetings despite COVID that included lunch and learns and collaborative conversations and in-person summer open houses we also were able to complete almost a hundred community presentations everything from Steer Fort Worth to Community Frontline if if you are a part of an organization and you would like to partner with us to be able to to host your own community conversation please feel free to give us a call or shoot us an email at policeoverside at forwardtexas.gov or pet it in the chat and we'll take note of that for later and we're always looking for new partners we've also as a team been able to review over 800 use of force reports and we do that so that we can identify patterns and trends and then recommend changes if needed to the Fort Worth police department's general orders so far we've had at least 50 complaints that have been submitted directly to our office so that we could then make sure that they were forwarded on to internal affairs and we've also been able to receive an address over a hundred inquiries and an inquiry is basically when someone contacts our office by phone or email sometimes walking in because they're not sure if they need to follow a formal complaint they want to walk through the process they want to share some of their their concerns or challenges and then we let them know if that's something if they want to be able to follow through on the complaint process then we'll give them that information to do that sometimes people just want to talk to us and share some information and have some questions answered we've also been able to attend periodic meetings with the Fort Worth executive team which includes the chief internal affairs the patrol action and then we monitor the Fort Worth PD's oral use of force review board critical police incident review board and the recruitment oral boards as a team it was extremely important to all of us that we have the right training so that we could be prepared for this and that we continue to stay on top of what is happening in and around our country so we have attended over 50 professional classes including ride-alongs with almost every police division the use of force use of force analysis it's important that we continue to do that we're going to be attending a NAICO conference here soon and to join other oversight professionals from across the United States we've also constructed quite a few real-top virtual conversations with city staff there are about 6500 city of Fort Worth staff members that we want to hear from and we want to be able to share the same things that that we're sharing with you today so we make it a priority to reach out to them as well as a part of reviewing the use of force body cam video we've been able to recommend over a dozen changes so far to Fort Worth's general orders some of the big ones including making sure that anyone that files a formal complaint has timely notification that there is a formal documentation documentation process for all complaints we also helped with a revision of de-escalation policy and the duty to report was also added to the duty to intervene mandate in the orders and all of these things like I said would not have been would not have happened having not been monitoring this use of force body cam videos um one of the things that that we are looking to do in the future is to make sure that that we are sharing with the public on a dashboard on our website all the recommendations that we have made to the general orders so that you'll know once they've been made and if they're being incorporated as well um right now we are partnering with Texas A&M we have several interns within our office and this is a law externship program that we're extremely proud of at our most we had four part-time interns and they are the ones that help us by doing all of our research in the office we were very blessed to be able to have received a twenty one thousand dollar grant from the fund to advance racial equity at north texas community and um that allowed us to employ two of those interns they've done everything from benchmarking policies and procedures to help us with use of force and pursuit stops searches body worn camera video most importantly they're going to they've been helping us draft a state of the art community police restorative justice mediation program so the things that we're going to be working on in 2022 which is almost here includes trying to to get that restorative justice mediation program off the ground come january we're also working on a know your rights education campaign that's not the formal title but we will be uh be tweaking that just a bit and we're excited about that because it's going to be an opportunity for us to work with local school districts and other partner agencies to um to to to get together police and community members including youth and do live scenarios which will give both sides an opportunity to view the other's perspective in a very safe controlled environment so we're excited about that um and we've already talked about the restorative justice mediation program a bit what we're talking about with that is an opportunity for people who do not have a complaint that that would require that would maybe end in discipline of an offer officer but instead would be maybe um they're concerned about a tone that an officer had with them or the way that a process was done when they were stopped so we're going to be able to bring together trained mediators um and community members who have gone through incidents like that and the officer that was involved if all sides agree to come to um if all sides come to um if all sides come to um to an agreement and are willing to sit down and go through the mediation then we'll bring them together and walk through that practice with them um we will always continue to have additional community police collaborative sessions and that is where we bring in the community members and officers from the areas in which they serve and allow them to have face-to-face conversations in small groups and be able to discuss policies and procedures and and share their insights about what they've experienced. The panel of Texas civilian oversight practitioners Cam has been able to get together some additional oversight leaders in other cities across the state of Texas and we're going to be bringing that to you at the beginning of the year where we bring them all together and they're going to share best practices answer questions from the community it's going to be a great opportunity to hear what other cities are doing in the field of oversight. And the 28th annual NACO conference is um it is the National Association for Civilian Oversight for Law of Law Enforcement and this is a conference that's going to come to Fort Worth. We are very excited to see them join us in the fall and they are again it's going to be an opportunity for community members and leaders to join other oversight leaders and advocates from across the United States to share best practices hear what's happening in their cities and learn some lessons from from each other. So just a quick reminder if you have questions please enter them in the chat section and what we're going to do is read those out at the end of the presentation and um if you text them to us as well it's 682-215-6412 and the same we'll we'll we'll share all of that at the same time we'll either Kim or myself will answer those questions for you. Here is the link to the survey that we would love for you to participate in it asks some open-ended questions but also some very specific ones about your insights to to what to not only this part of the presentation but more importantly to the presentation about the board recommendation that Kim is fixing to share with you so the link is in the chat section you can also if you if you're done at the end of the day you can always go and complete the survey at any time but you can also email questions comments concerns to police oversight at forwardtexas.gov okay and now it's Kim. All right Katherine you said fixing it's Texas Kim I'm sorry. All right so um now we're getting to the meat potatoes and also if you have any questions feel free to put them in the chat we can definitely stop and answer any questions or we can hold off and answer them at the end as well. So how did we get to the point of providing some recommendations to our city council? So last year we myself and the police department looked at their general order 201.07 which was created a few years back under police chief Fitzgerald excuse me and it created a policy advisory committee that was appointed by the chief it was an internal committee appointed by the chief to review policies and practices of the police department. It was a board of community members but the really the community and the council or no other city leader had any impact on who was placed on that advisory committee other than the police department and so the operations of that committee were suspended in about 2019 because the police department knew that the city would be creating civilian oversight in the city of Fort Worth and so then they knew they would be creating the monitor's office and so they suspended the operations of the committee and so what we thought we would do is frankly take that outside of the police department and create an independent police advisory committee a policy advisory committee and suggest that to council. Now that was a little different than what some community members had talked about which was also looking not just at policies and procedures but complaints as well but that was not the feeling that that I received as far as something that would be accepted by our city leaders and so I was trying to do the best thing we could possibly do to get a board started for the city of Fort Worth and so from there the key was it would be independent of the Fort Worth police department so it would still be a civilian oversight component to it because it would no longer be appointed by the chief of police and the opportunity to do this would allow for open policy making that allows police to benefit from community input regarding police policies and ultimately really the key goal is to address systemic issues proactively as opposed to reactively we don't want to wait till we have a police incident in this city to address policies and procedures that we could clearly address prior to and hopefully prevent some of those police incidents so we really want to be proactive and anticipate any crises that we could have later on and so in December of one on December 1 of 2020 I went to the council and provided them this idea and what I wanted to do was create a mutual accountability work group which was a group of community members to discuss the proposed board and that's what we did so the overview of that mutual accountability work group was that it would be an ad hoc group so it's a temporary group that we put together to discuss what the proposal should look like to city council of a civilian oversight board for the city of Fort Worth and that group represented diverse stakeholders in the Fort Worth community our office as well as PD as well as city legal also were members of the group but we were there not to to really offer recommendations as to what the proposed board should look like but really to serve as subject matter experts in answering any questions of the civilian mutual accountability work group and the key was to reach a consensus on key considerations of what the board should look like how it should be created at the very beginning it was a great testament to building relational trust amongst the stakeholders of that work group and what the some members of the work group really wanted to emphasize to the council and to our city leaders was that even though they were looking at creating a board potentially creating a board they would look at police policies procedures and practices that they really wanted to counsel to actually consider adding review of complaints to the boards to the ultimate board's purpose and so that work group reconvened to also when the opportunity to reconvene once the draft ordinance was created they wanted the opportunity to reconvene at a later date to discuss the draft ordinance so this slide here represents who the those mutual accountability work group members are and for sake of folks on the phone I'll read them so Escherich Tucker served as the facilitator pastor Dr. Cedric Belcher from the Grace Temple Seventh Day Advantage Church Crystal Hernandez from the Hispanic Women's Network of Texas we had Lulac members Felix Alvarado and Alberto Govia we had the president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People NAACP the Fort Worth chapter Estella Williams the president served we had Felipe Gutes who was from one safe place excuse me we had Pamela Young from the Tarrant County Coalition from Community Oversight and then of course as I mentioned earlier we had representatives from both city attorneys from the city attorney's office my department as well as the police department the our first meeting was December 31st new years of 2020 the initial plan was that the group would meet for approximately 90 days because it wasn't ad hoc work group and then we would meet biweekly and we stuck to that that stance but we realized early on that we needed more time because there were a lot of considerations that we need to get through there was a lot of very great discussion that was occurring so we didn't want to stop that discussion and so we continued forward past the 90-day mark and took it all the way through the end of July meeting on what a proposed board would look like and the guiding principles of our discussions was collaboration oversight and of course confidentiality and the ultimate goal for this group was to create the best fit for the city of Fort Worth so in September 14th of 2021 we took an informal report from the city manager to counsel that really kind of laid out the proposed board recommendation to the mayor of counsel so they were first informed about what that recommendation looked like then I also met with each and every council member prior to that to discuss what the recommendation looked like and then we did a presentation to the city council and the mayor on September 21st 2021 now those considerations that we looked at were considerations that you think of when you're creating a civilian oversight board or any really any any type of board you want to look at what the mission is what the overall purpose is what the duties of the board would be what the type of the board is this is a governing board is an advisory board the name who would appoint and who had the removal authority what the appointment term would look like how many members and what types of appointees did they have to have any type of expertise the appointment process so did they have to go through background checks do we are we going to require residency age and then was there any requisite experience that was necessary and then we looked at whether training would be necessary for the board and any type of meeting requirements and who would basically support the board administer its operations and so forth so we started off next slide with the purpose and so the work group decided would be to collaborate with our office and PD to develop a more transparent police department through a review of and recommendations to Fort Worth police policies practices and procedures the objective of course would be to listen to and promote the community's voice because this is a board of community members and policing and public safety by ensuring fairness and equity and police policies procedures and practices and the key duties would be to review and become familiar with PD's policies and procedures to gather evaluate discuss analyze information relevant to recommending changes to policies and procedures when needed or confirming that specific policies and procedures were acceptable and then identify any policing issues suitable for further review so any policy implications for further review that needed to be discussed this board with those that would be the board's duties the board type it would be a volunteer board it would be advisory and the name that the work group came up with was the community police oversight and accountability board they agreed through consensus that the city council would appoint and confirm all the members of the board and that the city council could remove per majority vote recommendation of the board itself and then the board would of course select its own chairperson and adopt any bylaws or standing operating procedures that is so so soft fit the work group agreed that there should it should be a two-year two-term appointment the initial appointments of certain members should be staggered a certain number of members should be staggered where their initial appointment would be for one year and their second term would be for two years so therefore you wouldn't have everybody coming off and leaving the board at the same time the one of the the key issues concerns that I brought up to work group and they all agreed was that we wanted to make sure that this community group was represented by diverse community perspectives and this is a trend that we've seen in civilian oversight originally when civilian oversight was created various members will be put on whoever the appointment authority was the person may or may not have an interest in law enforcement but was interested in serving on the board and so there weren't necessarily criteria per se and so we're seeing more and more because of the importance of civilian oversight and the impartiality and the various views around policing we're seeing more and more that actually who the perspectives that our members represent is very important and so our working group decided that they wanted this board to be representative of various community perspectives and that includes the areas of civil rights mental health disability immigration homelessness lgbtq the legal education field and particularly our marginalized community so incarcerated a perspective a person from that has been incarcerated you wanted that perspective you also live with the perspective of diverse racial and ethnic communities because those are the communities that are most impacted by police they also agreed that PDs personnel could not serve on the board and their immediate family members could not serve on board and they ultimately agree that the number of board appointees should be nine members appointed by council and the mayor was up to three to five recommended to council by our office now that was only conditional if we didn't have the various perspectives represented so after the council appointees for example we didn't have anybody that had the perspective from the homelessness community then opom could make a recommendation to council as to maybe some individuals that would satisfy that criteria so ultimately the maximum number of appointees would be 15 does not have to be 15 if all those perspectives are represented and that 15 also took into account the two additional council seats their potential in the city would have so from 9 to 11 the work group decided that they wanted all members to be city of Fort Worth residents that there would be a background check a criminal check for of the appointees and there was no consensus reached on whether the appointees could be appointed if they had felony convictions so they're really leaving that in the council's hands because we couldn't that reach consensus which doesn't mean they didn't support it they were members who supported it however they couldn't reach a consensus of what that looked like should there be a timeline on how old the felony conviction was should it be that certain felony convictions couldn't serve for example a rapist or someone who was convicted of pedophilia so it wasn't that they the the work group thought that folks with felonies could not serve on a board they just couldn't reach a consensus on what that exactly looked like and then they all agreed that members must be at least 18 years of age and that there should be initial and biannual training of our members including courses at the police academy and that all members also execute and agree to a standard of professional conduct agreement which really just talked about them being ethical and partial as well as not talking to the media and things like that at a minimum the work group wanted the board to meet quarterly they also wanted the board to consider the diversity of stakeholders that this board would impact and so the meeting schedules should represent that so we have a working class we want to make sure that the boards meetings are not always during the day where the working class either couldn't come to the meeting or they couldn't view the meeting for example and also just the board would follow the traditional city format for all of its boards and commissions as far as documenting minutes because this is this board would be a public entity so it would be mandated to follow the public information act and so forth an open meetings act and that opom would have to serve as administration for the board so additional staff and we know that it would be needed for that now the implications of doing a board like this are great it identifies potential issues for this board to solve or the opportunity to improve it was an opportunity to review and input from community members and represent organizations regarding the proposed board it was a collaboration between our subject matter experts our city folks practitioners and attorneys to determine the best possible solution um the policy and procedure recommendations um with stakeholder involvement would be proposed to the chief and the chief would be responsive to the board as it relates to the status of those recommendations um and if recommendations were adopted by the chief um the next step would be for this board then to review any implementation practices and training so we have to follow it all the way through can't just make the recommendations and say okay we're good um this board really should take on the full task of actually looking at implementation once it's put in the general orders for the police department and then how are our police officers be enshrined on that new practice um and then of course being a public body the board would then be responsible for periodic updates to the community to the mayor and council regarding the board's progress its recommendations and its status so here's a sample scenario that we came up with so our office is notified of a complaint this is a hypothetical our office is notified of a complaint regarding an alleged improperly pedestrian stop we monitor internal affairs investigation until completion so that's what we do now we then review all records which may include speaking with complainant the witnesses and the PD investigator to obtain any further clarification that we need again all of our that's a again our current process we compose a review memorandum of our observations and recommendation noting that and this is an hypothetical that PD policies and procedures do not address if and how an officer should conduct a proper pedestrian stop based on the facts provided okay so that would be that would be the result of our review so this is all common practice in our office now so therefore we recommend a pedestrian stop procedure to PD and we create a draft procedure to share with PD um we review including this our observations and recommendations so the so the part of the board would then kick in this new proposed board will kick in now so our review our memorandum that all that information would then should be shared with the board um and then the board would then review and determine if they agree with our recommendation if they want to add to our recommendation and they may disagree with our recommendation and so then we have we compile we won't just have our report but we would also have our report from the board as to how they think the police department should move forward in this particular situation the proposed board can then apply perspectives that may be missing doing our internal review or they may again agree because we do try every review we do we do try to take into account all perspectives and we are a very impartial office as it relates to making recommendations to the police department and so then all of that information would be put together and and provided to the police chief for his review and hopefully his acceptance of a new potential policy for the city of Fort Worth on pedestrian stops and so that that's a sample scenario of what this whole process could look like now some additional potential board responsibilities could include our reviewing of police programs or at other aspects of police at um at a request of council or this office or the community um promote awareness of the public complaint process and review i'm sorry and receive a review policy complaints by members of the public so public could actually write in or show up at a a board's meeting and file their own policy complaint um to the board the board wouldn't have investigative authority they wouldn't have monitoring authority our office would but they could definitely serve as a venue of receiving these type of complaints provide comments to the city on policy police policy procedures practices and programs um foster further understanding between PD and the community and promote our office and PD services and resources um the board could convene its own community conversation separate from our office separate from PD and talk about services programs policies procedures and so forth as well as issues of public safety here from the community on concerns they may have um in order to set forth their uh uh how they should move for it in program and policy review um they could provide community outreach and education and then they could also establish their own subcommittees um they focus on established projects and goals that they have set for themselves so for example they want to do a subcommittee on data and trends and look at patterns they could do that another committee could be an outreach committee where they would actually do community collaboration sessions like today and then a program review subcommittee where they would actually look at programs uh in the they were established uh pursuant to the general orders of the police department and make recommendations as it relates to that so what are the next steps so the next steps are to um go back to council um and we hope to do that by before the end of the year um and we want to um ask the council to support the community oversight board we don't know if that's going to happen or not but we that would be uh supporting um asking for support uh via a resolution by council then we would provide um the city attorney's office within draft and ordinance creating the board and that draft ordinance would be presented to the mayor city council and hopefully to the work group and community community it could be vetted and then finalized and ultimately adoption of an ordinance by the mayor and city council creating the first civilian oversight board for the city of forward work uh then our office would collaborate with the city attorney's office in the city city secretary's office to address the board requirements that we talked about the application process and the appointment and then we would collaborate with stakeholders like the police department to create the training curriculum for the new board incumbent board members and and after we have all that into place all the background work in place we could start the commencement process of the appointment of board members including the staggered appointments training could take you know 90 days it could take 120 days so um we would have to a lot for some time for that um but ultimately the board would then establish its own bylaws and and SOPs we would coordinate the training and potentially the board could move forward in the spring of 2022 if it's received all of its training um so it'd be spring 2022 or early summer 2022 and so I'll just leave you with this final quote a law enforcement agency that proactively shares policy information and engages community members in policy development shows its community that the agency is worthy of their confidence and respect and invites them to become a necessary part of the agency's story and that's a quote from lexical all right Catherine okay I'm actually unmuting okay so just as a reminder um this is our fourth session that we have completed and we have one more next Thursday night at 6 30 um it's on our website as well you can link to this to city calendar if you need that so um I know that a couple of you have been at previous sessions really strongly encourage you to to share this information with anyone that's in any of your groups um friends and family and neighbors and encourage them to participate on Thursday night if they're interested if they can't participate live they're also recorded and available on Fort Worth TV for you to be 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questions in the chat Erin no we don't let's let me just double check and make sure that we don't have anything that's texted I don't have anything that's being texted um let's see I just want to make sure that we're not missing anything and so I don't see anything in the chat session um we really appreciate you being here this this morning I know it's a beautiful day and you guys are probably just dying to go outside and enjoy that sunshine if for some reason you have a question after we hang up please just make sure that you email them to us you have my cell phone and so you can also again send me a text message that way and we that way we can answer you and um and be able to make it a part of the record that we're trying to keep as well um if if you have any other questions um go ahead and put that in the chat and if not um after a minute or so we're gonna go ahead and let you get back to the rest of your afternoon we really appreciate you being here Kim anything else you want to add Kim is being the fast chatter here I can see her she's putting everything in anything in the task I'm sorry I am yeah any questions or comments feel free to ask them if you want to um not ask them today but ask them at a later time of course you're always welcome to email us and Captain has that here on the slide um I also put our phone number in the chat uh direct number so you can call it anytime uh and talk to any one of us um and then if you go on our website um our website has a comment feature on it where you can click comment and just shoot whatever comments you have um that you would like to share and so we welcome that and it could be related to today's presentation it could be related to your thoughts on civilian oversight for in Fort Worth it could be related to uh policing um you know anything it doesn't have to be related to our discussion today um we're always uh willing and open to hear from you uh at any time um so please feel free to contact our office uh any through any mechanism that is best for you yes and I do want to remind everyone if you go to our website all of we have a brochure we have a flyer that details the complaint process our card is there that you can uh you can download and print any of that material if you want that to share with with friends and neighbors if you want to printed versions of any of that information for any organization that you are with please just call or email our office and we will be more than happy to get you copies of that so that you can share it um we have a business card that gives our office contact number that you can share with others um if they ever want to submit a complaint or a commendation that's a great way to make sure that people have that information handy um it looks like there was a comment from Larry Crockett um Mr. Crockett I'm gonna so be the first I can answer so the first point of contact it could be either us or PD we we communicate with each other um so we can take the complaint directly and what we do is we document the complaint um and then we will send the complaint over to PD to investigate it and then we monitor the investigation uh as they're investigating it uh and then when they reach a final resolution they share that with us we monitor and we look at that and determine if if if the the investigation was diligent um and if we agree with it if we don't agree with if we have further recommendations as it relates to the investigation we do all of that in our end so we like for community members to contact us regarding complaints and then let us handle it but you're always welcome to go to PD and if you go to PD then we also are notified when you file your complaint with them and we can still monitor it as well that way uh too so either one whichever uh whichever folks feel comfortable with we want to make sure that our community members if they have concerns about policing um that they know that if they don't feel comfortable with going to PD that our office is always here to hear their concerns and like I said we also take commendations so it's not always a bad story sometimes they're good stories too so we will take the the good and the bad as it relates to um law enforcement here in Fort Worth and no problem Mr. Crockett I I understood what you were talking about um the one thing Catherine mentioned is our partnership with uh Texas a law A&M and so I know we did a Steer Fort Worth event a couple months ago and someone asked me about TCU are we partnering with TCU so I did I put it in the chat but I did want folks to know that we are partnering with TCU and we're going to have some interns from TCU in the spring of 2022 in our office working as well and I'll I'll pick on um Mr. Crockett because he's he's with Como NAC as well and so um Mr. Crockett if you ever want us to come out and share a presentation similar to this or be able to ask ask and answer questions of of the NAC please give us a call shoot us an email we'll be more than happy to come and join you and Miss Ella um we want to try to get out into the community as I know you will see so we appreciate that that's what we want to do we will come and visit any neighborhood association um any organization if you got two people together we'll come out and talk we want to be able to to to have a presence in the community um that way if you have a question we will we'll figure out the answer with you we want to be able to help you as much as we can um are there any other questions or comments we just again really want to thank everyone for for being with us this afternoon uh it's lunchtime now so y'all can start thinking about that if there's there's anything we can do for you you've got our email address our phone numbers our website if there's anything that we can do to improve um any any of the communication that we're doing please let us know again this is being recorded on the city's Fort Worth TV and it should be up within the next few hours um so you can share the that information with any of your friends and neighbors who happen to have missed it and we have one more of these um on thursday at 6 30 and it'll be if you go to our website the link is there for so that you can log in directly or you can also go to Fort Worth TV and watch it live camp oh no i was just going to say that make sure you tell them when the next one is so thank you everybody for coming i'm not going to hold you any longer have a great afternoon and be safe thank you everybody thank you