 Well last year we came to the second site booth and talked to Duane Tsutsui and he's back here with a little more information some updates on some Of the devices that they're working on that are very excited for low vision Let's why don't you start us off with what's come along since we last talked to you? Okay. Well since last year we've made some very nice strides in our product development efforts in creating new technology new algorithms to improve the the imaging that the That the patient gets with the Argus 2 and the Argus 2 was specifically for is it retinal pigmentosa? Yeah, it's for patients. I've gone completely blind due to retinitis pigmentosa. Yes retinitis. I'll get it yet Okay, so in this is audio and video but in his hands He's got a little model of a head with some eyeballs and he's gonna pull an eyeball out don't get scared. It's a fake one Yeah, so this is the the Argus 2 device and It consists of an electronics package that is implanted in and around the eye that the package is Placed underneath the major muscles of the eye and a small incision is made in the sclera right here And then if you look inside you can see the array that's tacked on to the back of the eye In the on on the surface of the retina and then on the side you've got a coil here I assume that's an antenna to talk to the to the device that the person wears on their head That's correct. It's an antenna and an induction coil. That's how the The device is powered. Okay, so so there's no battery in your eyeball that you got to get replaced No, the battery is on the external computer that the patient wears, okay? And that external computer is a pair of glasses. Let me just grab that here for a sec And then pull it off the table. So it's pair of glasses. That's got to be the induction coil there on the side This is the transmitter and induction coil But the the computer is this video processing unit and you can see the battery here And this is what is the brains of the whole operation. This is where all the algorithms and and signal processing Software is located. So this is pretty cool I mean, it's not that much bigger than something you'd wear to talk on at a conference the battery pack thing hooked your eye To your glasses there. Okay, let me set that back down there for you All right, so you said you also mentioned that you've got more Medicare approval from some states. Yes We have we continue to expand our coverage Or we get we get positive coverage in in states. So that's how it gets paid for for people, right? Yeah, that and kind of important. But yeah, that's how we can obtain payment for the the system and the surgery Okay, so this surgery is going on in real humans right now Yes, that is correct. We're close to 300 patients now So we're expanding it's that's really exciting. That's a real deal. That's no CES someday thing So you idly mentioned that you have another product for people with other kinds of blindness Yes, that is called the Orion cortical processes and As you had mentioned earlier the Argus is for people who have lost a vision due to retinitis pigmentosa only There are far number a greater number of people who have gone blind for for other reasons and that's why we develop the Orion device The exciting thing about the Orion is that we have in fact since since we last talked We have started the the clinical trial It's at two centers UCLA in Los Angeles as well as Baylor University in Houston we did our first implant in January and We have another one scheduled for for next week and this involves an array that We what we do is we bypass the eye and the optic nerve all together and place an array Onto the service of the visual cortex of the brain. Oh, wow Now you mentioned before we were talking that that this is for acquired blind blindness because your brain has to have figured Out how to process those signals at some point in time. Yes, you had to have had some Functional vision at some point or another so if you've had functional vision at some time and then lost your vision That's what I refer to as acquired blindness Then you would qualify For the for the device. Okay, so the Orion is that the same sort it's not the same sort of device It's actually an array. It's a it's a detector detecting light and changing the signals into something No, it works a lot in the same way that the Argus Does it's a it's an array of electrodes that works together with a camera that's mounted onto a pair of glasses and Anything that the camera captures it gets lit up that shape gets lit up onto the array And it rather than having it projected onto your retina like the Argus to it's projected directly onto the Visual cortex of your of your brain so you don't even need eyes nor a An optic nerve to see the the fire the flashes that is crazy So what kind of resolution are we talking about today? Well, it's still a 60 electrode array, so You know that that's kind of hard to say exactly the resolution like 60 by 60 pixels No, it's actually six by ten electrodes, but it's kind of hard to really gauge Resolution because of the way that an individual electrode when it when it activates cells It doesn't necessarily activate, you know, it's not one a nice rectangular array for us It's it's not one particular pixel that they see sometimes a single electrode could actually elicit multiple Flashes so Can you give any vague idea? I mean is it like you could see a doorway But you couldn't recognize a person or could you read what what level is every time right? You you would not be able to recognize facial features or read, but you could see Doorways windows You could see lines in the crosswalk any kind of situation where there's a lot of contrast If you're walking along the pathway in a park and there's grass along the side You would clearly see the difference between the pathway and ground so for mobility it would be outstanding, right? Yes, it would be very our patience. Yeah, our patients have reported that it has helped their their mobility and their independence greatly Yeah, and that's it. That's a huge quality of life issue right there I mean, I'm sure you guys will keep improving this but for now that that's a huge leap forward Well, I certainly hope you a lot of a lot of success with this again The company is second site if people want to look into it. Where would they go? Well, you can Go to our website at www.SecondSite.com or you can call our toll-free number at at 877-756-3703 Great. Thank you very much. We look forward to seeing you again next year with maybe you'll have even more advances for us, Wayne I hope to be able to report new advances. Yes