 Coming up on DTNS, it's CES 2022, we've got robots, we've got TVs, we've got Patrick Norton to explain all this chip stuff from AMD, Intel and Nvidia. DTNS's ninth year starts now! This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, January 4th, 2022 in Los Angeles, I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Redwood, I'm Sarah Lane. Somewhere in St. Louis, I'm Patrick Norton. And I'm Roger Chang, the show's producer. Hey, there's always a longer version of this show, if you like what you hear here, you can get more on Good Day Internet, available to patrons at patreon.com. Big thanks to our top patrons in 2022, including Ms. Music Teacher, GMC Smith and Miranda Janell. Let's start with a few tech things you should know, starting with a couple of non-CES things. The National Communications Authority of Ghana gave local ISP CELTEL approval to invest $300 million into the Ghana Smart Cities project to provide national wireless internet coverage. CELTEL plans to use technology in phones, workstations and tablets manufactured by China's Haytech, a subsidiary of electronics conglomerate HAIR, and routers and networking gear made by Cisco. Oneplus will release its 10 pro phone on January 11th, coming first to China. No word on pricing specs or availability outside of China. Founder Pete Lau said the phone will use a unified OS, combining the Android-based Oxygen OS with Oppo's Color OS. AT&T and Verizon have agreed to comply with a request from the FAA and Transportation Department in the U.S. to delay rolling out their C-Band 5G service on January 5th, tomorrow, by two more weeks. AT&T and Verizon originally planned to launch their C-Band service on new frequencies back in December, but both the FAA and airplane manufacturers worried that the new frequencies are too close to those used by airplanes radar altimeters, which provide data on the distance between the plane and the ground and could potentially result in unsafe landings. And we have a Know a Little More episode at KnowAlittleMore.com where we actually talk to a pilot about this stuff, if you want to understand a little more about that. All right, 11 CES quick hits coming at you. The 11 hits of CES quickness. Starting with select 2022 Samsung TVs will include a new gaming hub that will support Google Stadia, Utomic and Nvidia GeForce Now. Those are all game streaming apps. Stadia will work in 4K. GeForce Now will only be in 1080p to start. The hub will also support HDMI connected consoles with pass-through support for both PlayStation and Xbox controllers, although they didn't say how that would work. Samsung announced the Galaxy S21 FE, the main differentiator from the standard S21 is RAM. The FE offers 6GB compared to the S21's 8GB. The S21 FE starts at $699 US for 128GB of storage. Withings announced the BodyScan Smart Scale, which uses an extendable handle with electrodes that can measure ECG, fat content, and water content in your arms, legs, and torso, as well as nerve activity. It'll ship in the US and Europe in the second half of 2022 following FDA clearance, and it'll cost you 300 bucks. A little more Samsung news, the company announced an update to its solar-powered Eco Remote, adding the ability for the remote to convert radio waves from a home router into energy. The 2022 Eco Remote will also come in white as well as the usual black and can be still charged over USB-C if necessary. AT&T announced the Fusion 5G phone running Android 11 with millimeter wave 5G and wireless charging for the low, low price of $219 going on sale Friday, January 7th. Phones at that price point usually only supports sub-6 GHz 5G. CyberPowerPC has a PC case with 18 mechanical vents that open and close automatically to better cool your rig. It reads PC temp sensors every five seconds. It'll show up first in CyberPowerPC's kinetic series of PCs later this year. I wasn't sure if we should include this next one, but you're worth it. L'Oreal announced the ColorSonic hair coloring device that promises to deliver the correct amount of hair dye with a simple brush through your hair. No more spotting up the sink! You'll buy your hair color as a cartridge, pop it in, and brush. Launching and test batches at the end of this year with widespread availability coming in 2023, no price yet. Never thought about printing my hair, but you know what? Sounds pretty good. TCL showed off the next wear air. That's its second generation wearable display, which creates the appearance of a 140 inch display from about 13 feet away connecting over USB-C. It doesn't do any AR or VR, but now it's 30% lighter at 75 grams and looks more like regular sunglasses. It'll launch in Q1, although we don't have word on pricing. Panasonic's Shift-Doll announced a pair of SteamVR goggles that use 220 Hertz micro LED displays along with temperature altering accessories to add cooling and heating effects to your head. The Megan-X headset weighs just 8.8 ounces, but it does need to be tethered to a PC. That's part of the way they keep it so light. Coming this spring from about $900, they say. Shift-Doll also is going to sell leg and hip trackers for $270 this spring, a Bluetooth vest with that same temperature immersion, and a $200 voice-suppressing microphone called MUTAK to keep the real-world sounds out of your virtual world and your virtual world sounds inside. HP's new Omen 45L desktop features a new cooling system using a cryo chamber with a cooling system radiator above the main case. The idea, of course, is that the chamber can pull in cooler ambient air from outside the main system with HP claiming it can reduce CPU temps to up to 6 degrees Celsius compared to systems without it. Hey, you know, you're cool. The case is also including a tool-less front and side panel, so that's good for tinkerers. Pre-built systems will start at $1,900 US, but HP, rather, also plans to sell the case with cryo chambers for system builders. And Anchor announced the B600 video bar, a 2K-capable webcam that includes mics, a key light, and speakers all in one. On-board AI can also do some auto zoom and panning, lighting adjustments, and noise cancellation, launched in January 25th for 220 bucks. The self-flying drone company Skydio announced the Skydio 2 Plus. Everybody gotta do a plus. Overy and the 5GHz Wi-Fi radio for a 6km maximum range, up to 70% above the Skydio 2. A bigger battery pack allows for 27 minutes of flight time at a time. The company also updated its self-piloting software with Keyframe, available on the 2 Plus and also the standard 2, letting users designate individual shots with the on-board camera and then letting the drone navigate between them in a sweeping video. If you're interested, the Skydio 2 Plus starts at $1,099, available now. Alright, we got TVs, we got robots, we got all kinds of other CES stuff to talk about, all that chip stuff, but let us start with the hottest newest trend in the world of technology. Sarah, tell us what a CES is in the Web 3 category. Oh man, you know, CES is always a trailblazer for sometimes vaporware, sometimes real products, but I feel like this one is significant. The blockchain, entering the living room, everybody, because Netgear announced that it's adding NFT integration into its Mural connected picture frame. Mural has already existed, but NFTs will now be part of this after previously announcing that it would start beta testing integration between Mural and MetaMask. If you're not familiar, MetaMask is a cryptocurrency wallet and that is all slated to start later this month. Prices start at $300 and go up to about $600, depending on the size of the frame that you choose. In the same vein, Samsung announced a new sustainability project, which includes planting 2 million mangrove trees in Madagascar. Over the next three months, through a partnership with a company called Veritree. Veritree will help Samsung track progress of each tree that is planted, supposedly, this has nothing to do with TVs, but Veritree's system is built on a blockchain. The whole idea is that tree planters can take stock in what they've planted, what others have planted, instead of needing an auditor to supervise project sites to fly over and see how many trees are planted, etc. Samsung says it chose Madagascar because of the mangrove tree efficiencies in converting carbon dioxide to oxygen. So kind of cool, but this was my favorite one. Let's talk a little bit more about Samsung's NFT aggregation platform for not all its TVs in 2022, but it's micro LED and Neo Q led TVs and also the frame models going forward into 2022. People can view and buy NFTs from their TVs. It's an app, right? And those who already own NFTs can also use this as a bit of a picture frame to display their collections. Samsung says its smart calibration technology will also calibrate a TV to match the specifications of the NFT creator to ensure that the display is as the artist intended. Now listen, if you think NFTs are silly from the beginning, then these products are going to seem silly. I think that just makes sense. But for those who are into NFTs, they're like, no, no, I like my board ace. Yeah, I like owning a let me, I bought a Len Peralta NFT. Let's say like, hey, I want to display that, then this makes sense, right? It's like, oh, and if Len to said it's best displayed at this resolution and this brightness, then I can, I can have that automatically happen. I'm not sure I'd buy a whole product just for that, but there's some NFT enthusiasts who absolutely will. Question, Sarah, I know you and I were talking about this before the show is what platforms is it going to support, right? I'm sure they'll support some big ones or else Samsung wouldn't be making a big deal of this, but they haven't announced which ones yet. I mean, when Netgear said, okay, we got a picture frame, we want to, you know, include NFTs, we're working with MetaMask, which is a pretty big cryptocurrency platform app. That makes sense to me where I'm like, okay, well, if you choose to, you know, go that route, then all of a sudden you've got this big old picture framing your house that can display not display not only NFTs, but I don't know pictures from your last vacation and also works of art. That's like a subscription service that's sort of a little bit separate than this, but something that you could do. That's cool to me. When Samsung was like, ah, hold my beer, we can do this inside our TVs. I was like, okay, well, who are you partnering with? And I don't have information about that. Yeah, makes a difference. Patrick, what do you think? You know, I've been, it's a new year. I've been trying so hard to keep the snark to a minimum. You know, we talked about this earlier on Good Day Internet, and I think it came down to is, as you pointed out, people who believe that they are on the ground floor of NFTs and this financial revolution that they're going to ride to the top and they're enthusiastic about it, or they just want to directly pay an artist are going to be enthusiastic about this. And for those of us who are maybe more cynical, people are like, well, we make displays. Those are designed to be displayed and everybody's writing about NFTs. And this is a way we can stand out at CES. I mean, it's, there's a, you know, I honestly kind of make sense and be like, yeah, I'd probably do that too. We're going to leverage our synergies, Tom. Why not? I, you know, I don't mean to be a right clicker about this. But yeah, for some people, just having a picture frame, right? Just the Samsung frame is enough. It's not going to need this. But if you're in the NFTs, you know, having it built in, it's easy enough. You just put the software in there. It's not like this is any different, right? Well, and I mean, there's so much, there's so much conversation that goes on between, and I include myself in the people that are like, I'm not participating. You know, can you just right click and yeah, save the foot like, what does this really mean? And if you really think of it as it's close to the equivalent of buying like a very, very, a piece of earth that would be sold at Sotheby's, right? And you have it, and it's yours, and you're able to display it, you know, on any level where like, sure, your friends come over and they're like, that's pretty cool NFT, you know, little thing you've got going on. Like, I see why that makes this make slightly more sense because you're kind of showing off something that you really care about. I thought when I saw the Netgear and Samsung announced what's so close together and like, oh, we might be seeing an NFT trend at CES, but I haven't seen anything since then. So we'll keep an eye on it. What we are seeing a lot of is robots. Here are a few catching people's eyes. Labrador systems showing off a more developed version of the retriever. A voice controlled cart aimed at people with limited mobility and carry up to 25 pounds has a retractable tray arm that can actually take objects off of counters and put them onto the cart or vice versa. There's an option for a built in fridge in the cart so you can store some things in there. Automatically goes and recharges itself overnight, $1,500 down and 36 monthly payments of $149 a month for the retriever or $99 a month for the one without the fridge. That one's called the Caddy. Full production is expected in the second half of 2023, if you're interested in these. There's also the new $5149 EcoVax D-Bot X1 Omni, an attempt to finally make a decent robot vacuum that can also mop. The kick here is the docking station cleans the mop heads, empties the dustbin and refills the water. That one comes in March. And in the broader robotic land of autonomous vehicles, which are kind of robots, Qualcomm announced it's opening an engineering office in Berlin to support clients of its Snapdragon digital chassis for autonomous cars. Volvo, Honda and Renault all announced they are now among the around 40 OEMs using that platform. Too simple, announced it's going to use NVIDIA SOCs in its autonomous trucks. And Soul Robotics announced the first commercial deployment of a control tower for a fleet of autonomous vehicles at a BMW plant. The Level 5 control tower places lidar sensors, mostly lidar sensors, around the facility to control any car. They put the sensors in the facility and then you can control any car with connectivity and an automatic transmission. The system is aimed at any business like a trucking or rental car company, for example, that needs to move vehicles around a lot. And finally, John Deere announced the 8R Autonomous Tractor. Six pairs of stereo cameras for object detection and GPS to maintain position. Supposedly you can drive it to the start of your field, configure it for autonomous operation and let it go. And then the farmers can monitor progress from a mobile device, which lets them adjust speed and drill depth remotely. John Deere 8R is headed into large scale production right now and should be available later this year. Well, I don't own a farm. So some of this is slightly lost on me as far as if I could, you know, put it into my own practice. But boy, will I take that mop vacuum hybrid. Do you think it'll work? No. Not at all. Not at all. So right now, I mean, I for a live with that segment, gosh, I don't know, probably about a year ago for DTNs listeners. I checked out one of the Roomba models. There are quite a few and still use it almost daily. Love it. The idea that it could somehow mop the areas that doesn't really clean that well because it's just a vacuum would be amazing. I don't know how that would work unless you were doing like some very significant, like, I don't know, AI mapping of the overall area that you're trying to clean. It could probably sense the floor that needed mopping. But yeah. Also, I messed up the price. It's a thousand five hundred forty nine still pricey, but not as pricey as five thousand. So that was my big question was was wait, is it really five? Vacuums are five hundred eight hundred dollars. Ecovax. So that was it. That was a 10 X factor. I'm like, wow, it did better, you know, wash and wax and pet the floors and sing to your cat and, you know, chase off people breaking into your house. It does empty the dustbin. That's a huge one. Although you have to empty the dustbin and empties the dustbin into at some point. But there are others that emptying the dustbin is like not like it's not it's not that the the the idea that I could just be like, hey, I robot start room back, which is what I have to do. It's like a weird way that I have to talk to Alexa. But for that to be like, and I will also mop. You're gone. I would just bow down in relief. I would like sole robotics to put that commercial deployment control tower into Valley parking. Can you imagine? I mean, very likely parking probably isn't large enough to deal with this, but like Valley parking at, say, a stadium or a mall that kind of place where you could just have it have your car like you could on your app say send me the car. No people have to go get it. The car just is driven to you. Well, like a public transportation joke here, Tom. It really would not be yes. If we didn't, you know, take technology to the bathroom. It's just what we do is what we do every year everybody. So let's take a tour through some of the newest smart home products coming out at CES. Starting with the bathroom. The Kohler perfect fill with Google and Amazon voice can fill your tub to a preset level and temperature and also goes on sale in May for $2,700. Okay. Kohler also offers a version of its touchless faucet for the bathroom. $199 a little bit more affordable. If you need to lock up medicine or, you know, really anything you need to lock up anything in your bathroom, the robe, the robe learn IQ digital lock box. $449 can also be put into a bathroom. The kitchen Kohler offers the purest suspend ceiling Mount kitchen faucet. You heard me right folks. The faucet is suspended from the ceiling. It's coming inside the house. It of course takes from the ceiling. A 30 degree rotating arm controlled wirelessly with a puck like remote. Pretty cool, but does cost $4,300 to up to $6,235 depending on what finish you're looking for. Moana offers a touchless kitchen faucet. Everybody lives touchless kitchen faucet. However, this one adds hand free temperature control, not just on and off for $675. All right. Well, if you're thinking if you're if you're saying to yourself, well, you know, my bathroom, my kitchen are like kind of fine. TP Link announced a for Tapo branded smart cameras to security sensors and his home security hub coming to the US later this year. And since we're talking about TP Link might as well mention routers, especially the Archer AXE 200 Omni and AXE 11,000 routers that determine device location and Wi Fi usage and automatically rotate antennas for the best performance. Come on the first half of this year. That's fun. Back to security though. The Schlage and code plus smart Wi Fi deadbolt is the first smart lock to announce support for Apple Home key. That's Apple's NFC door lock support. It's also Schlage's first thread enabled lock that is coming this spring as well for $300. Now, if you're heading out the door Masonites P power M power rather, which is M P W R smart door with ring doorbell and Yale assure smart lock is also built in also integrates a Bluetooth P I R motion sensor and motion activated LED lighting going into a fiberglass door that connects to the home power system and Wi Fi has 24 backup battery in case of power outage and also has its own built in smart hub and everything is upgradable if you want to get a new word doorball or smart lock down the road. You're already in the system launching for new home starting with the bearing homes in Charlotte, North Carolina. I know I know deep breath everybody finally the roof. Everybody needs a good roof GAF energies Timberline solar shingles that work just like regular shingles, but they're solar. You can nail them on and also overlap them on your own roof. The cells are about 22.6% efficient, which is near the top end of the current panels and a six kilowatt system takes up to somewhere between 350 and 450 square feet, which is about the same as a larger panel. So I know the roof thing has got Patrick going so before before I let you loose on that the smart door is pretty cool like the idea that it's you can you can get powered doors and commercial settings but getting them in a home setting is is almost impossible. I know this is only for new home builds right now, but they're talking about making it available for renovators, which is a much bigger market. So to me, it feels like they're beta testing it with new homes to make sure they work out all the kinks. But that's interesting, especially because they they planned ahead and said, Yeah, you want to swap out the doorbell will make it so that you can do that. You're not stuck with the same ring doorbell for 10 years because your door is going to last you a lot longer than than the than the device cycle. But man, those solar those solar shingles look really, really interesting. They're incredibly compelling because they mostly it's about the ease of installation right because and it's they're basically laid down like shingles they don't require a whole team, you know, it's it's very similar to how you install shingles now. I'm very, very curious to see what the cost is going to be. But if they can actually ship them in the sense of bring them to markets. Those are incredibly compelling as somebody who would like to put solar on the roof. You know, GF if you could just finish this before I have to re-roof my house. That killer. But they also I mean it was one of the funny stories right out this was like, you know, Tesla's got some company and it's like Tesla's barely installed any of their solar roofs and they're incredibly complicated. I think the number is like less than 2000. I know at least personally three friends that have tried to get Tesla to install, you know, a couple of them are in Phoenix, which is, you know, if there's a better place in a big open field in Phoenix to have a solar roof, I don't know where it is. And they just can't they just it's a mess. So it would be really cool to see this and the the whole level of thought they've gone into these is really kind of fascinating. You can walk on them, which you can't do with the Tesla ones. It's a big deal. You can nail them right into the roof. And and they say that while they are the singles themselves are more expensive than regular shingles. If you do a whole roof, they're like, we recommend this if you're redoing your whole roof, the total cost that you would pay to re-roof a regular house and install solar on a house with bigger panels is the same as re-roofing a house with part of them being these solar shingles. So that's kind of the sweet really compelling. I know when you almost makes you want a new roof, which nobody really wants usually unless they have to. Well, I don't know. I'm also kind of fascinated by that whole the Kohler purists suspend ceiling Mount kitchen faucet because I'm torn between being fascinated by the idea that my, you know, faucet, my tap is going to come from the ceiling and plumbing that you have to run up the wall and across the ceiling down the center of the room and the wire that like what happens the first time somebody's drunk in a pie, you know, you know, it's just it's it's kind of a mix between what a fascinating aesthetic conceit and oh my goodness did somebody hide the hockey puck we need water. I mean, it does have an on and off switch on it. So you don't have to use the remote to use it. But yeah, that hot, cold damn, etc. I can't wait to see a really expensive house that I go on an open house and see that install. What do you want to hear us talk about on the show? One way to let us know is in our subreddit submit stories and vote on them at DailyTechNewShow.Reddit.com. All right, we got chips. Let's get into the chips. Starting with AMD. AMD introduced Ryzen 6000 mobile CPUs built on the 6nm Zen 3 plus process. And here's the big part, including RDNA 2 graphics. So 1080p gaming from integrated graphics. They also integrate the new Microsoft Pluton security chip and support Wi-Fi 6e USB for PCIe Gen 4 and HDMI 2.1. AMD is claiming 1.3 times faster processing twice the gaming performance of 24 hours battery life. And like the 5000s, the 6000 series will come in an H series with 35 and 45 watt models, as well as a U series and 15 and 28 watt models for thin and lights. The first laptops with Ryzen 6000 are set to arrive in February. AMD also announced the Radeon RX 6000s range of GPUs for thin and light laptops. Those will go up to 100 frames per second depending on the model coming throughout Q1. The entry level RX 6500 XT gives you RDNA 2 graphics for 199 bucks. That one goes on sale January 19th. And AMD teased that the Ryzen 7000 desktop chips on the 5nm Zen 4 process are going to arrive in the second half of 2022. Not much on those yet, but there will be an LGA design. So the pins on the motherboard instead of on the chips. And they are going to support PCIe 5 and DDR5. Patrick, what do you make of the AMD stuff? I'm excited. Anything that means better battery life and better performance on laptops is a big deal. Mostly I was just super, super thankful that that next generation 7000 series part is not coming now because I just upgraded to the top of my 5000 series a few months ago. Yeah, sorry if I'm being selfish there. But you know, everything sounds good. Boy, it would have been nice to have them say like, we've stocked all the whole bunch of cards will be available everywhere. But the truth is, is compared to Nvidia, AMD is GPU availability has been fairly high, fairly spendy. But I'm very curious to see what happens with that over the next six months. We'll go ahead and pre approve you for the reaction to Intel and Nvidia. I won't be able to get these. I'm sorry, Sarah. Go ahead. Well, that was kind of the joke I was going to make as well. It's not really a joke, but you know, I feel like there are a lot of people who go, great, sounds great. Companies have been working on technology. When can we get them? You know, there's a supply chain issue where like, is this vaporware? Like, like how long would I actually have to wait even if I could spend the money? It hasn't been as bad on desktop CPUs. It seems like laptop availability and I have not been following this religiously. But, you know, if you want high end gaming graphics and a laptop, or if you want high end gaming graphics right now, the easiest way to get is in a laptop availability has been fairly high, both at the sort of more affordable end and the cost is no object end of things. Desktop processors were really bad last summer, but seem to be fairly available now. The, you know, big question is still desktop CPUs or excuse me, desktop GPUs. Tom's going to address that a little bit in the next two stories, so I won't get too far into that. AMD's had some availability. I think the biggest thing is affordable GPUs or GPUs that are remotely close to MSRP. That's been the real challenge I think for everyone at this point. Do you feel like there will be people who buy like an all-in-one laptop and just rip out the GPU and do something else with it? I wish they could. People wish they could. You know, it's been interesting because I've seen everything from availability on Raspberry Pis to subwoofers to, you know, it's a lot of strange backups in different areas, you know, substrates for processors. The cost of copper, like one of my favorite speakers basically went up 10% halfway through last year, went up another 20% at the beginning of 2022 in no small part because it's just become that much more expensive to get the copper for the windings in the coil and it's become more expensive to bid on the production time because a lot of these are being made from big, you know, manufacturers in China or wherever. So it's not as bad. It's not anywhere near, say, 2019 at this point. But it's closer to 2019. It was halfway through 2020. It was, yeah, yeah. 2021, sorry. Keeping that in mind, Intel announced a lot of chips today. We'll start with one from Mobileye. It's Autonomous Driving Company, the IQ Ultra system on a chip built on a 5nm process meant to handle level 4 autonomy. That's self-driving under most conditions, not level 5, which is all conditions. Cheaper, less power, hungry parts, so more affordable autonomy for consumers come in late 2023 with full production expected 2025. So the upshot of this would be that you would get more cars having more autonomous features at a lower price. OK, on to the PC chips. Intel announced 28 12-gen mobile chips, 8 for gaming laptops, 6 in a new P series that emphasizes battery life, but at 28 watts to 64 watts, so kind of between the performance and the thinning lights. There's also 10U series for thinning lights in 9 and 15 watt versions and 4 for cheap laptops and Chromebooks and such. Intel claims the new 12-gen mobile processors are 40% faster than the previous gen. Models include memory support for DDR5 in some and DDR4 in others, Thunderbolt 4 and Wi-Fi 6E. The H series mobile 12-gen chips arrive in February and the P and the U series are coming by the end of March. Intel also announced 22 more 12-gen desktop processors, so 28 for the laptops and mobile, 22 for the desktop, 65 watt and 35 watt versions. These new models are aimed at price and power requirements, so they're different than the previously announced gaming and creator-focused versions. If you're like, didn't they announce a bunch already? Yeah, that's where these slot in. Intel announced its 6-nanometer ARC discrete GPU, that's ARC, which will be made by TSMC. So speaking of fighting for getting resources at the Foundry, they're going to be fighting with Apple and others at TSMC. They'll support hardware-accelerated ray tracing, variable-ray shading and mesh shaders, and will use the same driver package as integrated GPUs, so updates to one will happen to all. A few other announcements, Intel's EVO platform, that's the one that does instant wake and fast charge, added an intelligence requirement parameter. Pretty much means AI stuff like noise cancellation, Wi-Fi optimization, camera and imaging effects are now part of the EVO requirements. Intel announced commercial V-Pro equivalents of the 12th gen chips, V-Pro Enterprise as well as V-Pro Essentials, Essentials for companies without centralized IT departments, and Intel teased the KS version of desktop processors that it says will hit a boost frequency of 5.5 GHz, which would be a new high. That just teased a lot more time before we get more details on that. What do you think of Intel's announcements, Patrick? I think the biggest thing for me was hearing that they were sampling parts. Shipping alchemist GPUs to OEMs, Acer, Asus, Dale, Gigabyte, HP, Lenovo, Samsung, MSI desktop and laptop, which means I really want something in the light of fire under NVIDIA and AMD. Still no firm ship date on that. I'm kind of very, very curious also about one of the things I saw, I think it was the Verge was writing about this, that discrete ARC GPUs are going to be required on all the Intel EVO branded laptops that use the 12th gen H-Series chips. I'm torn between like, okay, they're going to make sure they've all got super awesome graphics performance, I hope. I wonder what it's going to do. It'll be interesting to see whether or not the EVO, like so many other Intel branded things, it's part of a larger advertising campaign. In theory, it sets a certain technological standard of performance across a group of laptop systems, but reality is vending by into it because there's ad money there, or at least that's the carrot, not the stick. Kind of really curious to see how that turns out. I really want to see the alchemist numbers on those alchemist GPUs. I'm very, very curious about that, like a whole lot of other people. Intel bought a ton of memory last year in anticipation of building it into GPUs, so curious to see when that finally ships and what the numbers look like when it does. All right, the third of our triple play of chip announcements on this, like, multiple CESs in one day CES day. NVIDIA teased a new flagship called the 3090 Ti. It will be roughly the same as the 3090, but with Ti at the end, but also faster memory, 21 gigabits per second. Slightly higher specs in shader, tensor, and other teraflops. And Gadget calls it a 12.5% increase across the board. NVIDIA is going to save details for another announcement later this month on that. Also announced the RTX 3070 Ti and 3080 Ti with 1440p gaming at 100 and 120 frames per second, respectively. The 3070 and 3080 Ti's are coming to laptops February 1st. The Max-Q platform is supposedly going to be able to control CPU performance now, power and temp as needed. NVIDIA says that it worked with both Intel and AMD on this for their next-gen CPUs. And the RTX 3050 with ray tracing and DLSS come into January 27th for $250. A few other tidbits, NVIDIA pushing Esports to upgrade to 1440p, claiming the equipment can now handle it without affecting frame weight, certified its own GPUs in four third-party displays as part of that push, and NVIDIA brought Omniverse out of beta. Omniverse is that platform that brings first and third-party tools together for designing virtual worlds. Quick thoughts on NVIDIA, Patrick? This is a really interesting, you know, they tease a new top-of-the-line card that's going to require its own power plant, a kid, slightly. But, you know, the 3090 Ti is fascinating. The RTX 3050 people are really enthusiastic about. You know, when you read the PR or the press release for this, it's kind of a cell phone, three of the top five GPUs on Steam or GTX 50 class, including the 1050, which came out in 2016. And part of that is because, boy, people have been trying to buy 2000 series and 3000 series cards and can't. So in theory, this is a $249 card that will be available for NVIDIA partners. There's no founder's version of this. You know, will it be available at $249? Will they have volume? Is it built on a different process that allows them to get access? Do they have substrates for it? Will they, you know, it's an interesting looking card when you look at the way they demonstrate it. They're not talking about CUDA cores. They're not talking about specs other than the amount of memory in there. But they literally showed benchmarks of it versus the 1050, the 1050i and the GTX 1650, which are great 1080p gaming cards. But, you know, it is curious to see them show the benchmarks on this with them basically saying, it's faster than older cars with slower technology. You know, part of me is like, you know, okay, this could be the perfect, you know, our ray traced Minecraft card for my youngest. Like, he could really get into this. But this is, I feel like NVIDIA is at this position where they desperately would like people to stop nagging them about GPU availability. They desperately want to be able to fill, you know, the channels. And they're probably really tired of people whining at them, myself included, not that they really noticed me amidst the noise. But they're desperate to sort of like, you know, produce parts. And again, you know, we'll see what happens. Like, love the concept, especially given what I've seen, some really old cards or some really old chips going for it at online and at my local Micro Center. We'll see if they can actually ship these. And I really hope they do. Fingers crossed. All right. Well, it wouldn't be CES without TVs. Sarah, what do we got? Indeed. And Robert Herron, Patrick's co-host on AVXL, by the way, is going to be with us on Friday to give us a much more comprehensive view of what he thinks is going on with TVs this year at CES because this is what Robert Herron does. But we have noticed some notable ones so far, starting with Sony, which announced the first Quantum Dot OLED 4K TVs with better brightness and more consistent color. Sony is using Samsung, not LG, but Samsung to supply these panels. QD OLED emits blue light through Quantum Dots for doing red and green without the need for color filter that standard OLED uses. So, in theory, it's just a better process. That's better for brightness as well. Look for the Bravia XR A95K with Google TV coming later this year. That's from Sony. Sony also added the Bravia Cam to its A95K and Z9K models that can adjust brightness and voice emphasis and sound balance based on your viewing distance and your location and your direction. Samsung has a few firsts as well, announcing the first 4K and 8K Neo QLED sets with 144Hz inputs instead of the usual 120Hz. They also go from 12-bit to 14-bit backlights, if that's your bag. Panasonic, not just Samsung, but Panasonic focused on gamers with its LZ2000 line promising 60Hz HDMI 2.1, auto detection of NVIDIA's GPUs and easier game settings overall. It's now available in 77 inches alongside 55 and 65-inch versions as well coming this summer. LG also announced a 97-inch, but also a 42-inch OLED. So, kind of the largest and the smallest all in one. But, but, if you want the largest TV, you can get for your hard-earned dollars. TCL announced a 98-inch 4K QLED TV for less than $8,000. I mean, that sounds like a lot, but I guess other 98-inch 4K QLED TVs go for more. So, it's a bargain. I know. Look at you, TCL. Just bringing it down to the people. I mean, I cannot imagine having a TV. I would need to be so far back just because my eyes. Everybody's different. But the idea that this is actually getting under, like we're like sub-10K at this point, tells me that there is a market for large-scale TVs that previously, I don't know, who would buy them. There's a lot of projectors out there. Sure. That's true. You know, I ended up with my first 100-inch, or I guess I started with a 90-inch projection screen to a 100-inch projection screen because I could buy a projector and a screen for vastly less than a 65-inch television, like this is eight, nine years ago now. So in some senses, you can get a 100-inch, 110-inch projection screen and a projector for vastly less money. You can't get 4K performance that you can get out of the top of the line. What do you... This is a great question. I have as somebody who kind of sometimes thinks about projectors, but not really. What is so great... What is the obvious benefit of the projector? Mobility? No. I mean, for some people, right? For me, it's having that big 100-inch screen. We only sit 11 or 12 feet from the screen, but it's like being in a movie theater in the sense you have this big, massive theatrical experience. For us, that was just huge. And it turns out cartoons are great in a theatrical experience and games are great when you have that big, wide theatrical experience, he said over and over again. It was funny because I was really into it and it wasn't until, I think, a Blu-ray version of Sensibility, the BBC mini-series came out and my wife was looking at the screen and was like, the colors were really good. She could see all of this detail and she was like, oh my goodness, and she walks up to the screen and says, this is amazing. She sits back down and we go back to enjoying the witticisms that make up Jane Austen's work. Do you, when you have a projection, can you kind of screw with it for people's eyes more than you would be able to a TV? In what sense do you mean? Like focus? Well, yeah, exactly. Where I'm like, I'm too close. Let me calibrate this a little bit a little bit further away. Well, I mean, you can set up, depending on the projection system, you know, mine will move. Depending on the lens system and the projector, you can put it anywhere from a few feet away to many, many more feet away from the lens on the projector and that varies a lot with the model on the manufacturer. Got it. So, you know, how close are you currently or what's your minimum distance for watching? It's about six feet. So, two oduses? Yeah. I got a 55, like, I mean, I'd love a 65 inch television, but I have no business. I just, I can't get far enough back because I'm far-sighted. There's an idea called, like the, I think I want to call it the Kel factor, but the idea is that as the resolution goes up, you can more comfortably sit close to it. And one of the arguments is that by the time you get to 4K, you should be sitting like two feet from the monitor. Now, obviously you're having, you know, tennis match face. Sure. But, you know, once you get about it. But it's not so much that your eyes can adjust. Yeah. They can adjust if it's a high enough resolution. Yeah. And I mean, it's also, it's a very personal thing because I know, I still remember sitting, the last time I sat in the movie theater, I was like six feet, six feet. I was like in the second row, it was probably 12 feet from this 40 foot screen. And it was just a miserable experience because, you know, you're laying down in your back. You're trying to see the whole thing and your head swinging back. But you can probably a discussion for after the show, but we can talk about like what the rated or the recommended distances are for certain screen sizes. For me, it's like, can I see the entire screen without having to shift my head around? And at six feet, you know, I think, you know, if you could probably get a 65 inch screen in there, a hundred inch screen at six feet would probably drive you insane. 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