 I'm in the RSL Steeper booth with Ed Greenham and he has graciously been talked into doing this interview by his cohort here who said he didn't want to be on camera so I gotta do that. Alright so what is it you guys are selling here? Okay we're talking about switch accessing to iPads, iPod Touches and iPhones so the device itself is just this device here called Perero. It weighs less than seven grams and as you can see it's pretty small. What we do is simply plug Perero into the iDevice. This automatically sets up voiceover, there's nothing to download, there's no settings to change and you can see now we've got a highlighted box over the first cell. So as soon as you plug that in, as soon as you plug this device in we got voiceover turned on and I heard it out of that speaker. Yeah we've got some speakers here just so you can hear it a little bit more at the show. Okay so there's no settings to go into, there's nothing to download, it automatically loads it up and starts it working straight away. What we then do is plug in any type of switch, as long as it's got a three and a half mil jack socket on there, it's gonna work okay. So you only do one switch? Yes, it's a single switch access. So we've just got a standard switch here which is just a standard one I had in stock when we came out. If I press this switch now, it's gonna start scanning through the, oh we've got steps scanning on here now so every time I press the switch once, it moves one cell. Okay when I get to the one that I want, I simply press and hold down until it says select. Oh so you don't have to hit twice and coordinate that kind of action, that's nice. And it opens up the notes okay so then I can scan through the notes as much as I want. Oh let's just come back out of there so I hold it down until it says home and then I'm back home. Okay so I'm just quickly going to show you the app that we do for it as well. So did you just turn voiceover off? I did, I've got a triple click home for voiceover off just for ease and you don't have to then disconnect the borough device. The app that we've got is very simple but all I'm going to do really here is just take this back from step scanning to standard scanning to show that we're going to have a one second scan speed and we're going to say after three scans we're going to bring that speed down to 70%. Are you going to tell me what all that meant? Okay yeah absolutely I'll show you right now so I'll bring this back here. So what we've got now is when I press the switch it's going to start automatically scanning through every second but then it's going to speed up to 70% of that straight away. So I can get through quickly now where I want to go to but let's say I want app stop and I've just missed it. The next press I do is going to start to reverse the scan the other way. Oh nice. Okay but it's going to go back at the initial speed as well so I stop it, I press it again it goes forward. So I get to the one that I want, again I press and hold and I open up I choose. So the point of showing us that was that you're showing that you can accelerate the speed and you can have it go forward and backwards with the changes of mode. Absolutely so if for example you were typing an email you might want a quick scan speed so when you've got the keyboard up you can fire through the keys but you can stop it there if you missed it when you want it goes backwards and you can really hone it on exactly where you want to be. That sounds fantastic. Now we can go further down now so if I press and hold a little bit longer we've now got finger based gestures. So I've got swipe right on there, I'm now on to the next page. Did you just go like this? I held it down and it speaks to me the audible menu and it says swipe left swipe right and I let go on the one that I wanted to hear. So when it says swipe right I release the switch and it swipes the screen to the right. Oh so you didn't have to swipe right left. No no no all I'm doing is a push button switch. Okay so that's great if you're in iBooks or something like Bleo because you can read the book and the device will read the book to you and all you have to do is swipe the page left and right and it will turn the page and you can carry on going through. Oh very nice. Okay so a great benefit of this device as well is the fact that it is connected directly in. It doesn't use Bluetooth to connect in so it's a solid connection it's on all the time. It's not prohibitive from use anywhere so you can use it in a hospital or you can use it on an airplane. Oh that is nice. Yeah and I'm sorry but Bluetooth is just hinky right I mean when it works it's wonderful but it's so often it's like oh I'm fighting with it. So we eradicate that we don't have to worry about Bluetooth we don't have to worry about if your connection drops out because if your connection drops out and you use Bluetooth how are you going to get back on to it? Right. So now we get around that because it's in and it's on. That's hard work and so the device is called Pereiro. Pereiro which is Latin for to scan. Oh nice I like it and so how much is Pereiro? It's 275 US. 275 US. Yes. Okay and then you have your own switches people have their own switches. People have their own switches okay so we don't want to make the price more and give you a switch because you might not want to use that switch and it ends up in a cupboard. So use your own switch that you're happy and comfortable with because it will work with it. Alright very cool. Well thank you very much Ed. How would people find this now? You can go to rslsteeper.com and just have a look through this. We'll be on the websites or you can search us on Twitter at Pereiro. Pereiro very much. Any last thing? No that's fine. Alright thank you very much Ed. Thank you very much.