 So before you guys start watching this Brian's in the bathroom, we're going to trick him and we're going to blindfold him and Have him try to figure out what Paul Mitchell products. They are so this should be pretty fun We're gonna see if he's prepped for his big trip to Vegas Free salon education.com We're here with splitting hairs episode 32 with my pal Brian hair Hi, it was my goal this week to remember right away to do the intros so Drea Bolland hi hi who we can't see I Set this up. I'm like yep now. We really now. We just have to listen carefully. Yes So I'm excited to be back You know, this is my favorite part of the week. So You have a big weekend. I do. Why don't you just take us through that weekend for a second? Well, as soon as we wrap up the show today, I'm gonna pack up my family in my car We're going to the Royal Wedding in Long Island. What's the Royal Wedding? It's my brother's wedding And it for all intensive purposes is gonna overshadow the actual Royal Wedding. It's just this big lavish event I'm sure there's gonna be elephants on parade and all kinds of fanciness and should be fun. Nice. It's gonna be insane That sounds fun. Oh, yeah, then what are you doing? Then a few hours after the wedding is over I'm hopping on a plane to go to Vegas with a bunch of other educators from around the world to do our It's a it's a training, but it's also an audition process from what I understand for Advancement as an educator. I don't know we'll sing right just a lot of intensity in Vegas So it's one of those things where to kind of share with people your I guess your journey of this You've been an educator for quite a while Paul Mitchell is doing this thing now where? They're taking all the educators you pay for your flight you go out there and you're basically auditioning to try to further yourself in the company right and and That's but it's an intense weekend. It's gonna be yeah I mean, it's it's a lot of stuff a lot of people and it's packed into two days So I put together a game that we're gonna play with you later. Oh great to Because you've been studying so hard for this to see how much you know, I don't know if I'd say so hard So I knew that that would talk about studying right. Yeah, well you played it off pretty well So so I have a little game. It'll be fun. So we'll try later So the other thing I want to plug millennium the experience coming up June 22nd I did a video on that but if you guys get a chance to come to Florida with me It's in Fort Lauderdale, and we're at the Marriott Harbor Beach resort and spa Which you know can't beat that right? So I think You can you can still get tickets. So make sure that you go on there I think you could call millennium and mention splitting hairs. Just do it anyways see if they'll see if they'll hook you up Just talk about it to random people and I also I got me though Working on the screen. I remembered my password this week millennium talk to me. They're like seriously So so we got that Check out some new products on shop fsc.com. We're gonna talk about those later. We have Barrett's tip We have an interview with the co-founder of hairbrain.me Gerard Spacey or scarpey see I don't know why I say spacey scarpey see coming up Which I'm really excited about that. We went to a rojo me and fad In New York City on Monday last Monday and sat down with him for 45 minutes So should be a really cool interview for everyone. So we'll cut into that in a little while Yeah, so let's go over. Oh, ain't your mom's here my mom is here. She's a big fan So we're gonna bring her on for a minute and nice maybe chat about your childhood for a second. So So, yeah, so let's get into feedback from last week's show. All right starting off. We got Morgan Johnson She says hey guys just got to watching the podcast and I totally fangirl too when you mentioned my comment So now you get to fangirl again. Yeah, Morgan Johnson Johnson The skills USA program is for Votek students some are in high school still and some aren't it has local chapters for me It's kind of countywide Then it goes through district state national even international levels for all technical trades and vocational schools They have the program separating cosmetology into hair nails and makeup you have to You do have to recreate a picture of a woman's haircut and men's within 45 minutes a fashion up to something absolutely avant-garde 45 minutes a test and finally over the phone consultation Skills program is fantastic at the state level. You have to use pre-appointed mannequins from pivot point very excellent quality Wow, so yeah, so that was cool because we did mention we had no idea with the Pennsylvania Whatever contest yeah, and now we do and a couple people even William commented to say that it was The same kind of thing but um William doesn't even live in Pennsylvania. I know but he knows he's close though He's in Virginia. It's kind of the same thing. We're in Pennsylvania. I Know so um, but we didn't go to school in Pennsylvania. It's true. You know what I mean, so all right None of us did nope. Nobody that works here went to school in Pennsylvania. That's a little weird. Um, okay, so All right next one. All right And Nissa, I hope and not an ESA we'll go with either I said an ESA All right Another great video guys on the professionals leaving the industry I know at least with my experience some schools only prepare you for state board and pretty much That's it just basics. We weren't really taught different techniques on anything then the majority of salons or booth rentals Where you're pretty much on your own? So your channel is a gift in itself because further education is so important after you graduate So thanks so much you guys should do a split screen with Drea and the celeb on trending dresses So I've been talking about this all morning. So we tried to re-angle the TV and So that so that we can get close to the TV. We've recropped the celebrity pictures So we'll see if that works if it doesn't work I'm taking your advice and I'll split screen with Drea and the celebrity Head on Drea. Yeah This podcast takes hours to edit so the more and more we can actually have just on the video like the TV screen That's why we're trying to do it because it cuts down on having to Edit for hours and hours. It's just another we're just gonna have you start doing like CGI animation Like we'll sit down and do an audio every create the visual. Yeah, I'm sure if I could do that I would but um so we'll do that and if you've noticed actually this just reminded me we have a new freewheel that We're gonna spin and here's the deal. That's not there. It's our new wheel there. It's behind the wheel now so but we with the wheel here's the thing my my The guy that's kind of my mentor a little bit my YouTube mentor. Let's put it that way in front of his photo and you Um We he he does a wheel as well on his podcast I tried to come up with other games and I think we're going to we did think of other ideas But I do believe that the wheel I just have to take the idea from him because the wheel being able to put sponsors on It is pretty cool and fun. So so we ordered the wheel on Amazon two days ago it came yesterday love Amazon for that and So we get the right different sponsors on there. So we have pivot point amica Um Shop FSE pivot point again. I'm just gonna keep loading it up every week. We got it And lots of fish yeah a lot of t-shirts on there, but we're gonna spin the wheel We're picking somebody from Facebook and Instagram from yesterday and they'll they'll spin spin the wheel to win Some kind of sponsored prize. So so we have that coming up as well. All right. All right We'll do that one last. Okay. Cool. Next Amy Berry Eek Love you guys. Thanks again for all you do. I've been spreading the word about your site another great episode. That's awesome Thank you. Amy Berry because it's it's people like that I think that I've pushed this and kept it going Oh, yeah, the more that people share what we're doing obviously the more their friends are gonna see it and then Share it that way too. So thank you Amy. Thanks for sharing the love. I love this person's name Duka Dukes, I really hope that's like their birth name or at least married into that name Yeah, it could just be their Google plus. No, I'm going with that's I'm gonna name my kid that nice Duka Dukes here. I Saw you when I was at work at a roger the other day. So you got there's proof that you actually were there Yeah, and you know what was cool? So so you met you saw Duka Dukes. I know I didn't even know So next time say hi, but the other cool thing is that The girl that came out to give us the tour of a roger because Gerard was finishing up an advanced class because they do a couple times a year this big 30 or like four week Education event so people stay in New York City and they learn for a whole entire month, which is pretty cool So he was finishing up that it's nine to five every day and then so a girl gave us a tour and She was like she's like oh, you're the free salon education guy. So that was pretty cool. Nice It's just funny to be in a did she know you were Matt. No, she called me Brian, too but we it's just funny to be in New York City at one of the top salons in the city and Somebody to say hey, they're free salon education guys. So that was pretty cool big deal So thank you Duka Dukes. I Want Duka Dukes autograph All right Wisconsin is Donna That in Donna. I don't know Wisconsin is Donna. I don't know what I hate screen names. It's so hard for me All right. I had the same thoughts on Bolliage paddles. It's funny I was daydreaming about having a 3d printer and the first thing I thought to make was a Bolliage paddle good call. I Don't know that's the first thing I would make I'll put it on the list. What's the first thing you would make because you just thought about that really hard You're like well cuz I just read it I just read an article where like they're actually finding ways to make these 3d printers make real guns So of course the first thing that popped in my head is like I probably make a cool looking space gun I Would make a gun first and then I would solve the highlight problem. I like this way it was specifically a space gun Well, right. I mean it's not what I can get a regular gun I want like a really cool like alien looking when when do you play? I don't know. I I mean I immediately got Matt. Okay All right, and then Wisconsin Donna asked Brian, do you have a little OCD? I love how you always put your coffee in the sheer circle on the table Oh, that's hilarious because I didn't even realize that I did it, but I do but today's I read that I really do Oh my god. Yeah, that's exactly where it is So do I have OCD? No, I'm actually quite a slob. My mom is here. You can ask her. She's staying at my place right now Yeah Yeah, I don't know. I guess it's just a weird little Undiagnosed, you know, it's funny like if I'm at a bar I put my drink down and I never put it back in the same exact spot You know how it makes like a little ring So I'll move it to like the next spot over and I just keep creating ring See when I do that I create the Olympic symbol like every like it's it's halfway across the circle And then halfway across that one so they're like interlinking and when I used to smoke cigarettes I don't anymore But when I used to so don't do that and quit if you do it just kidding I Don't want to condone it. I'm just kidding keep going. I put them out I would stick them down and I'd have to make sure that they were standing up. Oh, yeah before I would let it go Maybe there is a little OCD in there. There might be an issue never thought about it. Hmm. It's cool though That's why I put that there That's why I sit on this side of the table the other thing sit over there This just reminds me of this so the pivot point cord tacos So Brian loves these things. I just like saying cord taco I know so this is something that we're giving out free with every Shop FSC order for it from pivot point But it's so funny because she's given me a million ways to use this from your glasses to You know actually holding cords so you just put your cords together and clip it, right? That's the normal function But the other night I was editing and I have a glass top on my desk And I had a drink because you know, yeah, alcoholic I guess So I had a drink and it was like, you know how like it was humid and it's just like melting everywhere I was condensation. Thank you. I was like, you know what there we go And so a little coaster cord taco becomes a coaster. Yeah, it's multi-functional and a frisbee Did you just hit the camera? I know but he hit the GoPro, but we don't know if it's the right angle now nice job for every it was totally worth it Here's that take my phone and just check Thank you. All right, that's hilarious. I could do that again if I try Okay, moving on All right Oh nice Mr. DJ Dave one says when you do trending dresses and show the stars you used to put them up Right on the podcast screen like episode 16 a direct quote episode 16 Yeah, the way you're doing it now. I can't tell who they are can't even see the hairstyle So my favorite part about this is this is my father So he's like so I'm talking to him on the phone the other night And he goes he says the exact same thing that he wrote here. I'm like dad. You don't even do hair You are a mechanic. He's like, but I can't see the styles I'm like, okay. So so not only did we get it from from somebody else, but we got it from Yeah, we're good. I know Yeah, good job fixed it. Yeah, you need to throw harder next time But so we're fixing the trending dresses, but dad. Thank you. My dad has watched every single episode I think my mom has as well your mom has so, you know between my mom and Matt's dad, we get a lot of critique. Yeah throughout the week I know when it comes out. I let my mom know the podcast is out and then I get like for the next hour just text text letting me know The lighting the angle of the comments everything and then we get to read your dad's all week long Yep, like I'll read somebody like god, this guy was a little harsh. Oh, it's matt's dad All right, that's cool. That's cool. This is fatherly advice See my sister watches the podcast every week and I get to hear about how funny brian hair is Yeah, my dad says the same thing. He's like brian has such a deep voice. I'm like, hey He's like he has the perfect radio voice. I'm like Come on. See at least he's not like well at least you have the perfect face for radio That's true That's true Thanks matt's dad. Yeah, this one's for you All right, we're going into questions Sorry, you want a deep voice contest Go ahead All right, so then going into questions from social media I like this you want me to read this whole thing You don't have to read the whole thing if you if you can sum it up Uh, basically, there's this is not in english, so I can't even guess like the first few sentences is pretty cool I think yeah, well, basically it's a stylist who has been a stylist in south korea for the past four years And to sum it up. This is basically just a question on can we do Sort of video is just on texture dealing with texture more. She's having issues with you know dealing with really really thick Super straight asian hair A lot of perming I guess is going on over there which makes sense because there's not a lot of natural texture in that hair usually Yeah, um, and it was just asking questions, you know fine hair versus thick hair and coarse hair and all that And I think that is definitely something that Will be a part of Danielle's whole little yeah texture lesson which we got we talked to her she came visited we played Uh, we just have to nail down as soon as we have some free time on a wednesday I think once you guys are back from vegas because Danielle's going to vegas as well, right? So, um, once you guys have that Out of your mindset a little bit and you know because it has been It's going to be a pretty intense trip. So you guys have been really focused on that So once you guys get back there'll be free time and everything But the thing that I loved about this was she says I watch your channel on my way to work Uh and after work every day Which is crazy that somebody in south korea is watching. Yeah while they're driving to work Yeah, I was when I read that I was like, I hope she takes a bus. Yeah Yeah, well or just listening driving the phone You could put the podcast on and not actually watch you could just listen. It's true But um, just to be able to reach somebody that's the cool power of the internet and What's going on now? So it's pretty cool. It's very cool Uh sarah llamas on the balayage video Says how long do you let it set? I love that because I have to read that in southern accent because I bet that person's from down south Because it's a very southern way to put that. Yeah, how long is that set for? um That was just depending on the uh, the desired level of lift Yeah, I think the good is a good link to the step three that we just had come out because I did my my step three of the 14 steps becoming a better hair colorist And step three was about developers, you know, what they are the point of them and in that type of scenario How important it is to know why you're using what you're using, you know, it's There is no answer for that because that completely depends on what you're working with what developer you choose to use How light you want it to get how light you don't want it to get So you let it set as long as you want to yeah, you just watch it I babysit all mine. It's when I teach these in classes. I say that's You know, it it's one of those services. There's a lot of reasons that it costs more Then, you know typical foils or anything like that and one of them is It's a luxury service and I very rarely leave them You know, that's not like where you put a color on and let it process for a half hour and go eat lunch Or go do another haircut or whatever like you always have to babysit this because it could be five minutes for this person That they're sitting there. It could be 40 for another well And you also got to look at when you double book things like a balayage is tough that you can't really double book Right. I don't because you have to watch it. So you have to charge more. It's it's about Your time. Yeah, so if you have a single process, you can double book in there You don't have to charge as much because you can fill things in right but when you're working with that so cool Uh, all right, then we've got eve man On the key to success is frequency of visit Great vid watching all your vids. Are you sponsored by millennium software? No Why would you think that that doesn't make any sense? No millennium first off? I've said it a million times But I just want to say with this question. Um, we Have always been, um Supported by millennium millennium puts matt's pictures in magazines. Yeah, so That's worth a lot No, but millennium, uh Every year they send me to their conference. They give us exposure. They do a lot of things for us. So, um, you know I love talking about them plus If it wasn't millennium if I was using something else I would talk about that just as much because it's more when I talk about millennium It comes with the business tip and with that business tip There's always something behind it and you have to whatever is running your business is what you're going to talk about So I try to reason you have those business tips because you have something that helps you Get through business. Yeah, we have something that helps us do our job And we love it and when I'm using something that I've never used something better than it like mizutani scissors That was a complicated sentence. I know I got there with you, but that was so but mizutani I I haven't used scissors better than What is wrong with that sentence? Anyways, I feel like you're so close to tripping yourself up on this one But I get it. I get through tire shoe laces together and go for a jog Thanks, so, um Just if it's a great product You use it and then if you find something better, then you talk about that But for now that that's the best thing I think that's out there and it helps around my business So that's what I talk about Agreed cool Catfire four on the point of view men's textured haircut clipper over comb says I'm really enjoying these point of view haircuts. I feel in some ways they give a better representation of what you're doing As a hairstylist and being super visual. I appreciate that. I can see how this will look if I was doing it This is a fun cut great texture and one I find to be very popular with men. I see in the salon I agree. I'm so happy that people like these videos because first off they're easy to make And there's no editing There's no editing which I think is the best because the more you edit something the more unreal it is If you look at hair cutting videos, and I've heard forever like the big fancy videos They're edited so much that person probably didn't have the right outcome that they wanted and then they just went back in Readjusted it and then started filming again. So it's like sometimes they just put things on there that you don't even need So it's cool to see salon reality. I think but we're also going to take this to a whole another level And we're going to start I'm going to wear more go pros. So I'm going to wear One on my head one on my chest Shoulders hands Yeah Finger finger go pros But I'm going to attach one to the scissors somehow. Maybe I can get bill pro to come out with a scissor attachment. That would be cool But pretty much we're going to uh, we're going to keep advancing those videos Because they're really fun I like sitting at home and voicing them over because it's kind of like I'm discovering what I do in the salon at the same time It was funny matt keeps Asking me to do it But he only asks me when it's like a guess that I'm getting ready to work on that I have absolutely no idea what we're going to do Like it's the kind of people that come in and they're like, I don't care do whatever So I don't even know what I'm going to do until I'm like halfway through and I'm like, all right So this is the direction we're going. I'm like, I can't do a video on something Like I can't instruct someone to do something that I don't even know what I'm doing But what I tell them is it's that's what's cool It's salon reality because then you do the thing and then you could talk about how you thought about doing this Then you went here and you went here. That's what people want to see. I think it's a good point You made that point. Yeah One of my favorite parts of the point of view videos is how into it the guests and the salon get When it's happening. It's so funny. They're so serious. You're like, I know I'm like you can talk and Fine, just pretend like this isn't here Pretend like this robotic thing on my head that's blinking red and blue is not there putting this blood crushing Mark on my face. Okay. So here's what we're going to do. We're going to pop over. We're going to check out the Gerard space Scar Pacey interview And then we're going to come back So we'll see you guys right after this interview. Hey guys this is Matt Beck from freesaloneducation.com. I'm here with Gerard Scar Pacey, right? Is I that's right? Is that good? There's many ways to pronounce it. I know that's my my preferred That was the correct way. Okay. There's a story behind it as there is for everything. But uh, do you want to Tell me when my grandfather came to to America. He wanted to be American came from Sicily And in Italy you would pronounce it scar patchy But he wanted to you know, he forbid his children speak Italian. He wanted to be American and he started pronouncing it scar Pacey. Okay, and That's just how my father did it and that's how I've done it. And that's the story That might just be how midwest american I am that I would just read it that way Yeah, well, yeah, because it's supposed to sound more american But like, you know, if I'm in italy or from talking to italians or people that you know really speak italian They usually would say scar patchy and I don't correct them. But yeah, you know, that's the story. Nice. All right, cool So I'm I'm really excited to be at a rojo first off. Um, you know in new york city or a rojo Depending on how you want to pronounce it, right? I never messed out or a royal So we uh, we drove up. I'm I'm from Iowa. So Um, and I moved here 10 years ago to do to do hair start my hair career so just first off driving into the city is like Um, just a crazy experience and then trying to park and then you know finding this place But I'm here. I'm excited to be with you. Um, uh, you were one of my number one guys I wanted to sit down with So, um, so I'm excited to be here. Well, great. I'm honored. Thank you. So I want to start off a couple things obviously I want to get into Uh, what you're all about your your background a little bit, but The thing that I liked most about you and what what I look up to you for is that Right from your hair brand dot me profile, which we're going to talk about hair brand in a second It says I'm just a guy who's dedicated his life to the art and craft of hair and along with uh, along the way Had great mentors who shared their knowledge with me and I'm just trying to do the same right and It's not it's not a crazy fancy bio. It's straightforward That's what happened with you and that's what you want to do for people And I think that that's excellent and everything I ever hear about you is that you're the most giving hairdresser There is so well, thank you. So tell me about just uh, who was your mentor? Who are those people you're talking about? I guess is my first question, you know, I mean for me, um I've had so many along the way. I started, you know, um, the very first salon I ever worked in was owned by a guy called Vince Smith a vents. He's uh down here in battery park city lower Manhattan He had a great successful little business and he believed in education and he trained me You know weekly And he was a disciple of Sassoon so he would incorporate Sassoon training into the salon training Um, he was my first real mentor and I learned from him really the service side of the business and the communication side And whatever he had to offer technically Um, you know, what I quickly learned from him was that I loved Sassoon Right and you know, he was again a giving enough mentor That he told me well, if you want if you really love that you should try to work there The thing that I know most about you is that you're an educator I don't know much about you as a stylist behind the chair, but you've educated a lot of people Right or you're in you're a huge part of the education program here at a rojo So why don't you tell me about What you do here and what your daily role is? Well, it's just kind of a continuation of the same story You know when I went to Sassoon um Right away. I was engulfed in a an intense training program that was still You know, really the the predominant training program in the world at the time and maybe the only one I think that a lot of things have been added to the mix now But around this is 1990 and that was still really the major focus and right away I was drawn to the strength of the company which was education. So as soon as I finished my training program I said, okay now, how do I become a teacher? And um, I always have had kind of the gift of gab Which is kind of half the battle when you educate So I just dove right in, you know, like a lot of these kids are doing here today And I started training apprentices in the same program that I trained in And then I was lucky and you talk about mentors another one of my mentors was uh, Steven moody He would come to new york A few times a year. He was the vice president of Education north america at the time for Sassoon He would come to, uh, new york to do the ibs show or to do a training at the salon And I got to work with him and he said to me, you know, I think you'd make a great full-time teacher You know, um, uh, Sassoon has an education um Department within it to run the academies the cosmetology schools Um, and where's that at? I hear in america. It's based in san amonica. Okay Um, and then in europe, of course, it's based in london And I was fortunate, you know, I'm now again here kid from brooklyn I'd never really even been on an airplane and he gave me the opportunity But you know, they flew me out to california and I got to work for a month I thought I first I never wanted to move to california. I thought i'm a, you know, new yorker tried and true After a month there. I never wanted to come back And the lot of lot of great things in california besides the sunshine and the things that the sunshine Makes come from the earth, you know, it's a beautiful wonderful place And then I really fell in love with full-time teaching and Met other mentors and you know, sometimes a mentor is a peer, you know when I started at Sassoon One of my good friends who's still my best friend julian pearl and giro Okay, um, he was like, you know a year or two ahead of me and he was one of the people training me on The classic bob or the ladies basically julian's from philly, right julien's from philly and he's works with paul mitchell and angus Um, and he he had already been down this route and he had already moved to california So now I have steven telling me you should do it now. I've got a buddy that I worked with out there already Okay, and you know, it's it's just a continuation. So Um, I've been from early on. I mean at this point I'd only been doing here for about four years maybe five at the most um And I was full-time educating because I was in this, you know, sassoon academy And I did that basically for the next, you know, almost 10 years. So tell me about like, so I just think about me being four years into doing hair and And going to california never been on a plane like tell me tell me about your mindset Like that's the stuff that excites me because it's like you just got shipped out there to to work With sassoon, right, um, just in california I think for me if I would have been in iowa and somebody sent me to california just out of nowhere And I'd never been on a plane. I think I would be losing my mind. So what was your thought process when you were going out there? You know, I mean from a technical standpoint I knew I probably wasn't prepared because I was still a young hairdresser, but you know, I I kind of have balls. So I wasn't really intimidated by you know, um The presentation aspect or I've never felt shy to get in front of groups and I like a good challenge I'm very competitive So I think for me like I never really feel prepared necessarily, but I I mean not I guess prepared is maybe the wrong word, but I but I think when you have the confidence and the call and you just go for something I think that that's cool that you did that Um, because I don't think at four years into the business a lot of people would just have the confidence to even Try let alone actually go to california. I mean, you know granted I I kind of felt like I did have the Harvard degree because it was like four it was like I Went I was at Sassoon for four years. I'm right. Yeah, I did like a year Working in a salon before that getting real world experience And then I was went through a 16 month training program where you know, so I did I had that Little bit of confidence. Plus. I just figured you know, um I can make it I can make it happen. That's cool. So, um Let me see. Okay. So I saw a discussion um, it's kind of been going through facebook for some reason and and it's It's uh, it's one of those discussions that you hear a lot and it's talking about young stylists or people graduating from school and they're going to salons and they're leaving salons quickly because of People are blaming it on they're not being taught the right way of the right thinking um, I personally I said last week on our podcast that Uh, that it was for me. I think it's more We have to tell them about the journey and how hard it is and and things that you've That you've been through that I've been working on going through just the struggles that are actually In hard work, but then the reward that pays off at the end of it. Um What do you feel about that with when Silas graduate? It's a huge topic I think I you know in the past decade or so I've noticed a big change I mean when I was a young hairdresser um And at that time so soon was the preeminent cosmetology school and perhaps the only branded cosmetology school Um, the message was it's a craft. It's going to take a long time. It's very hard Um, you're not going to make a lot of money at first Um, but if you dedicate yourself to it, perhaps you could be one of the lucky ones But then I think what happened and it's a natural progression the product world Which is a multi-billion dollar world said well, why don't we make our own hairdressers? And let's open our own cosmetology schools and how are they going to be better? Well, they're going to be cleaner and fancier and they're going to look better We're going to charge a lot more money. We're also going to tell them we're going to prepare you better So I think you know some and I'm not trying to call them out. No, no, not at all Paul Mitchell, they've done a lot to upgrade the cosmetology school But the student coming out also has this higher expectation right off the bat, you know And I think in those programs they say You know, you're going to pay more to come to this fabulous facility and we're going to prepare you better But this is the difference that doesn't that can't happen because it's a craft It doesn't matter how well you're taught in the first year how clean the facility is Within that a year you barely scratching the surface, right, you know, it takes six seven eight years of great mentorship to start to become a master in this craft So I think what that's kind of the root of the problem and I've I realized that many many years ago I also think it relates back to How much more informed and intelligent the young people are these days, you know When I was 19, I didn't have the world at my fingertips to find out all the information and compare And say well, this isn't good and that's good and I think, you know, what we've done here at erosio has tried to tap into that and say instead of Fighting this let's let's give them as much of an objective plan as possible. So they come in knowing a lot more and We then bombard them with even more information education and a very Structured program and pretty much every kid that's here and I call them kids some of them aren't kids Right every kid that's here as an apprentice could pretty much on paper tell you right now when they expect to be on the floor Right, it's that structured now. It's the bulls in their court, you know, so I think what happens back to they go to a salon And they say I'm not getting the right education That salon doesn't have that structure in place for them to know I have to do six graduated bobs eight one-length trims, you know, 14 men's classic layers They're going to be graded, you know, and I can pass I can the structure has to be there And I think they crave structure because there's so much more intelligent or much more informed Well, I think salons really need Because like the songs I was just with four hours before this before us and I think a lot of them the challenges is They don't even have a facebook. They don't have They didn't know what harebrain was they don't know like there's no inspiration Anywhere and I think if if stylists want to move forward and inspire themselves You're talking about a training program doing six bobs You know six one lengths whatever most you're right like most salons don't have that But even if they do the consistency of it is the challenge and even me getting a tour today Here at a rojo it was like, you know what I really got to I got to step up My training program I haven't hired anybody in a year and a half because I have a four chair salon We're we have quite a few stylists and you know, it's it's a little bit different, but it's not different because I think we're always making ourselves different in our head I guess is as I was going through the tour today. I was like, you know what? I'm not up to par exactly with where I should be training wise And it takes coming to a place like this or just being inspired by something and that's what I love about harebrained And you know freesaloneducation.com For me, it's it's a source of inspiration for people that aren't in new york city That can be inspired. So Let's talk about I'll get into the razor tip in a second founders of harebrained. Who are they? Myself and randy taylor Are the technical co-founders right who literally You know started it And then all of our friends and you know In the education world the first people that we invited were friends of ours at evade our friends of ours at pole mitchell friends of ours It's a soon friends of ours at a rojo You know, I've been fortunate in my career that after getting that kind of Sassoon pedigree I've worked for a lot of companies. Um, and you know In most of those companies was able to connect well with the hairdressers the key hairdressers And then you know when we decided to do something It's when we decided to create harebrained We just reached out to all of them and asked them to promote it in their classes and in their events and you know We never wanted to be the biggest or I don't necessarily want everyone that was in your class today to be a member of harebrained I don't want to exclude them. Right, but it's their fault that they don't know about things like that Yeah, I mean, it's like it's not that hard to be informed. Right. So maybe they don't necessarily Um Belong there and I again it sounds negative, but I don't mean to be that way It's like I want this to be a community of the most passionate Right people and there's plenty of places for people to go and dabble And you know learn about a new shampoo or you know See a new collection, but The difference here is this the people that belong are the contributors. Yeah, and they're the ones that are sharing and discussing So, you know, we only want people there that really feel like they can contribute to the to the community. Yeah, yeah, and I think So tell me about I call it the facebook for hairdressers. I don't want to call it that anymore. So explain to me. I know exactly So tell explain to me how I What what you say? What is what is your description of harebrained? I mean harebrained's a platform for passionate hairdressers to connect with other passionate hairdressers right to share information Education photos inspiration to celebrate the craft It's a platform. It's a place where you can go. It's the you know The place where you can go where you know, there are other people like you. Yeah, you know, I mean Um along the line, you know, I wasn't always made to feel great even at a place like Sassoon I mean, you know 60 of the people that I worked with they didn't really care that much about hair On a deep level. I mean they might have been trained well and they were good at it Right, but they weren't hair nerds or overly passionate. Right, you know, and I won't we wanted to create, you know a place where Those people that were so overly passionate could feel connected and feel Like a home, right? I mean, we also wanted a place Where industry educators could stay connected, you know, here's a sad thing. So you mentioned before I mean, I've been an industry educator for you know, good part of 20 years I would Say the majority of people that I taught in those 20 years, especially maybe the first 15 Wouldn't even know me if they saw me because you know, you spend these two or three hours or three days connecting with them And hopefully helping them. But then there's no continued connection After that and that was one of the reasons why it was Randy's idea He's much more of a tech guy than I am and he we were doing these classes at Aveda And I wanted to like continue to follow up with the students and stay connected The way Lupe Voss has done with her hair color magic group So that's another, you know, she had over a thousand people on that 1500 Unreal actively engaged asking questions every day about color and formulation and you know I mean what she's contributed to a brand Um, that doesn't even necessarily pay her in any way for it is stupendous that you can't pay for that Kind of marketing and connectivity, right? And that's when so when me and that both we started with uh with Hairbrain and that was really our inspiration for um, deciding to create videos because before I mean youtube is an outlet and yeah, we we it's not niche enough I love youtube because of the following that we've been able to create but the fact is Hairbrain you put it on there the people that watch it are Hair stylist, you know and youtube it could be anybody but me and that just decided, you know what we love cutting hair Normally on wednesday nights, we would go, you know have a beer or something after work and talk about hair the whole time So we're like, you know what let's just film it. We had a crappy camera laying around. We were like, let's film it Edit it put it together. I think I know how to do this and so we put our first video on hairbrain And you know it got a little bit of a response and it was like, you know what let's just do this Let's have fun with it and then it evolved into Well, how do we organize it and then freeslaw education came about but it but I love hairbrain because It is the outlet for hairdressers to share Anything well, it's a place to ship what you've created Yeah, and I think that that's an important word because you know I hear From hundreds of people all the time about things that they're doing and creating but they never ship them They never you know, it's always in the planning stages And I think what you guys did is exactly the way that great things get created you just do it And then you put it out there and you keep making it better and better and better You can't wait forever. So if you have a crappy camera and you've got a good idea It's better than a crappy idea and a good camera. You know what I mean? It's like and unfortunately That's mostly what we end up seeing, you know people I've seen videos and collections that have they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on nobody watches them Nobody cares. Well in this world like I was talking to a company and they were telling me that you know We have this unbelievable collection for 2015. I'm like, well This world today you got to put out content every other day Otherwise, like you said hour of hour exactly. Otherwise, no one remembers who you are You know, it was it was cool. Like it's just it's cool. Like we went to the new york care show and people I've been working I worked for paul mitchell for 10 years And I would go to the new york show every year and no one would have a clue who I was and then You know, we put out videos on youtube four or five times a week And we go to the new york show and we got people taking pictures and and and it's not even about that But it's about the fact that we're actually connecting with people finally because you can't Sit back and wait for You know For it to to evolve you have to just go do it. Absolutely. Um, all right Let's see what My next question was what what is the future of harebrain? What what are you guys trying to do? What what's what do you got? I mean, you know, I This has been a big realization for me because you know, I mean people see the growth and the success and I get it This question and what's your five-year plan? What's this? What's that? And I've always felt kind of guilty Or bad about the fact that I don't have a five-year plan and neither We've never thought that way about harebrain and I read something recently That has really cleared it up for me that I think was quite brilliant and I was reading a sath guden blog And he mentioned, you know, that there's three kind of games you can play There's a short game a long game and an infinite game And I was intrigued by that and I started reading it and the short game is, you know, I'm going to do something Right now, you know for the next six seconds that better pay off After that, right, you know, I'm doing something there's it's going to begin. It's going to end. I need to pay off The long game, you know, you're willing to do it and stretch it out a little bit longer Because you want a bigger payoff and then there's the infinite game Where the whole point is to just keep playing the game, right? And that's what harebrain is Yes, the whole point is to just keep playing and moving forward, you know, that's the big picture Right, you know, so we want to keep making the game more and more fun and adding things to it So we've added obviously the awards this year. You guys were nominated for a harebrain video award Which is a great party, by the way, it was a great party and I think I really believe that it's going to become A very important recognition and an award and a center for Hairdressers that are creating valuable content for other hairdressers. I think for true hairdressers, it will be the award I know that it's your thing. So from my standpoint looking at it It's the one award that I would work towards getting, you know, because I think that it comes from A totally different place. There's not a dollar sign behind it. There's uh, you know, it is It's coming from people that every stylist it's on harebrain looks up to so I think that's That's really good. You know, so and then going off that we've always done meet-ups and we're expanding those You know, that's where where the community actually can come together again in a in a more party like environment Seems to be something the hairdressers like to do And we're doing these meet-ups at major events, but we also want to get into Educational events, you know, not necessarily Um Shows and circus like kind of things, but you know, when I was a young hairdresser It's assumed we used to have something called the teach-in Okay, and you know, it's it's pretty much more of a of a european term But it was you know, always held in the academy and people would come from all over And there would be some presentations of models, but then it would be a much more technical You'd walk away having learned something technical and I you know, we want to build off of that, you know Um and give the people that participate in it a chance to make some money Right, you know the independent educators or even educators that are affiliated with brands A chance to have a stake in something that's bigger than just their one name Right, you know, and that's been another big part of hair brains is you know All these different and they were all our friends and all people that we worked with and you know They've all gone off and kind of continue to build their own brands So we want to pull everyone together to do events that you know Cover different sectors of the industry And give something valuable to the people attending and the people that are Participating they should make money off of it. Right. Absolutely. Cool. I like that and then um, so and Oh the meet-up that's what I wanted. So the meet-up is that from mere Orlando the next one. Yep. Um What day is that, you know, it's june 1st sunday june 1st. So here's the story behind meet-ups. I mean, you know, we've been going to trade shows I've been going to trade shows since i'm 19 years old and usually the most um Intriguing part is kind of what happens afterwards at the closest bar where all the hair dressers the educators the people that are working The show attending the show get together talk about the vibe of the show the things that they saw The things, you know, the networking of what's happening in the industry So, you know, just like many things we decided, you know, about five years ago to try to Attach hair brain to that to brand it. So The Long Beach show was really the first place and you know, our largest membership is in california. Okay Um, and that's also where them it just happens to be where the most hairdressers are And I think they're most a lot of them are independent. So they need something to belong to So we started five years ago doing meet-ups at the Long Beach show that that the pba puts on The issa and it was always an informal thing So it was kind of like the old rave days where, you know, you would just send out a message and people would meet up Right, it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger this year We had, you know 150 people turn up at a A little tiny hotel bar and they had to put up a rope to keep out the other hundred people because they couldn't even come in To kind of hang out just to network and connect with like-minded people So we finally decided to take it to the next level. Okay to um To get a much larger space. So now in in orlando at the premiere show It's attached to the old Peabody hotel. Okay, that's cool. It's not called the Peabody anymore They change it to the Hyatt. Okay, and they've got a beautiful big bar there So I called up and said, you know, how much would it cost to To block out this bar or make a VIP area? Yeah, so, you know, they wouldn't give us the whole bar Unfortunately, because we really could have used it right But they gave us a large area for, you know 125 people to have an open bar and to attend And we reached out to, you know brands that we feel are good for hairdressers. I mean that's always been our kind of perhaps Deciding point of who we work for. Yeah, it's like, you know, because there are plenty of brands that have plenty of money But they're not all good for hairdressers, right, you know, so for us, it's, you know, we're not a media company We're not just saying, okay. Well, you have money for an ad and I've got some ad space So we'll take your money, right? We're partnering, you know, we think of it almost like a pbs type thing Yeah, um, you know, we have a community that's creating valuable content and things That are good for hairdressers. Do you want to sponsor that? We don't actually need anything From them. We're gonna ask them to create content. We I don't want a collection Right, I've got 10,000 pictures every month. Yeah. So it's kind of the reverse way of thinking Do you want to sponsor that, you know? And that's what we said, you know, we've got these great meetup going on Do you guys want to sponsor it and we were able to, you know, limit it to four brands plus the pba Who are really the only association for hairdressers that That work behind the scenes with advocacy and governmental issues And I'm learning a lot more about it because, you know, like most hairdressers I haven't been that aware of what goes on behind the scenes, right? But that's really the only governmental advocacy group. So, you know, the brands that'll be sponsoring us For this meetup. It's in association with pba and then we're sponsored by a rojo Aesthetica magazine Millennium salon system and hatori hanzo shears and the idea was to have Distinctly different brands from different sectors. Yeah, so you've got a product in an education company in a rojo a media company in esthetica a tool company with hatori hanzo and What's the fourth one again? Oh and millennium, of course millennium, you know are really Someone that i'm really proud to be affiliated with because I think they've brought so much to the success of hairdressers through the systems that they've created I think john harms is a very intelligent man who's got a lot to bring to the game So millennium has also involved that that's why I always attach to that company because Right away when you walk into the building, you know that it's not just software and that's so that's cool I'm glad that uh to see them on board with hair brained as well. Um All right One so I have one thing so we have a razor here. Yeah, so Since we're we're standing here and I've tried to figure that is my razor right there or no So I have tried to figure out this thing Right with the finger and the hand. Sure. So why don't you walk me through this? Okay, so that I can see how you hold the razor and just give me a little couple tips your two favorite tips with a razor You can use that guy and yeah, so you know essentially, um After I left soon, you know Over 13 years ago, I've been razor-ing almost every day since then And it's through trial and error and working around other, you know, razor cutters I'm fortunate to work with you know, 100 people that cut hair with the razor almost every day Yeah, I saw a lot of razor cutting going on and you know, uh over the years We developed something that I like to call the lock and load and it's a way to Keep you safe and in help ensure precision. Okay, so, you know number one a lot of people when they raise are They'll hold the comb like this. Okay So what happens is the blade is is loose and it can kind of dangle around and you don't have quite as much precision with your combing Okay, so what we figured out years ago was to lock With the index finger So you lock and then with these four fingers you make a sandwich You put two fingers on the bottom and two fingers on the top And you know, it feels a little bit different from scissor cutting and it is different Which is good because we want to feel different to create something different Then to start to train the muscle memory you have to teach yourself to rotate Okay So, you know, you sit there in the staff room you do this 100 times And then you do this 100 times and then you do this 100 times and then you go at will back and forth And then you've got the control now We work with uh, you know specific type of comb with a wider side for sectioning and for visualizing And moving the hair around and then a very fine side for a very even fine definite tension Okay, so then that the mastery the reason why you have to learn to do that So that you can take sections Rotate comb very finely grab the hair And then kind of master your stroke. So then you're pinching just with your uh Yep, so you we call this part of the blade the shaft. Yeah, and it is literally a pinch So you pinch the shaft. Okay Not an x-rated thing, but right kind of is what it is And then, you know, if you want to do a very closed or tight stroke You kind of bowl your fingers in So you can make small strokes. So you got to pinch got to get see that finger is actually pinching right there Oh, okay And you close that in and then you can make very quite tight closed strokes Okay To make lines if you kind of start to open the fingers and loosen it a little bit You can make bigger looser more kind of um freeform strokes. Okay. All right. We'll be working on that Is it comb? All right. So let me see so lock. We're locking. Yep, right Yeah, I'll make the sandwich Yep, it helps to put the pinky on the bottom for stability on the bottom. Yeah, exactly. So there's your sandwich Yeah, this isn't gonna happen practice rotating. Hey, you're almost there. Go Go keep going. All right. All right. You can do that a hundred times in a row. Yeah. Yeah You'll start to build the muscle memory. You got to keep that locked. Oh, yeah Yeah for safety next time we meet People get very bored with this but next time we meet I will be flipping this around like you would not believe Good good. I've watched so I've I've watched nick on video And I've tried but just you know, I we have a video educational website, but you can't learn it all from video So that was really cool. And you know, it's about pulling the blade far away from the from the guest from the client From the work. So you see when you're like that, you see where the blade is People comb through the hair it dangles I mean, I mean, I was able to manage this for the first few years of razor cutting But I never felt I had the same control or dexterity as I did with scissor cutting And then when we kind of evolved to the lock and load everything fell into place. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's cool. Awesome so, um A couple questions from the fans out there. Okay, the the gerard scar pacy fans. So uh With all the different razors, which do you prefer? Um the feather plie. I mean, these are both feather plies right At the the erosio has our signature red color on it, which is uh, for those of you that don't know nick is a Big fan of manchester united. Okay. So, you know, is that what it is? Yeah, that's what the red is all about So there's lots of red all coming together. Um We're in the process right now of actually making another customized razor Which hopefully hair brained and erosio will kind of team up on very cool Those of you have been razor cutting for a long time. Remember the original plie Was a transparent plastic. It was like an orange. I still have one But they were too brittle and most of them broke So we're working with the feather manufacturers to develop some different handles. We did a wood one Yeah, but um, it was pretty much identical to the one that bumble did And again, the problem with that was they would break they're too brittle So we've talked about adding almost making it like a bowie knife where it's got brass here and here And still wood but with the brass. That's cool. I like that. So that was the problem I mean, I had that great bumble razor for Two weeks, right and it fell on the floor and in the wood broke and I was never able to use it again Okay Well, very cool. And then so what percentage of the time do you use a razor versus shear? 50 50, okay, you know, I mean sometimes I incorporate them both together in a haircut. Um, You know in terms of education, I mean, I figured that out a long time ago and so did nick I mean, I don't want to be competing with all the best scissor cutters in the world to get classes and You know competing with every single person that's left to soon. So Over a decade ago, I figured out what's something different that not too many people are doing But people seem interested in and that's the razor. So the straight razor, especially Unguarded straight razor living dangerously and really doing amazing things to hair Um, so when it comes to education, I'd have to say, you know, Probably 80 percent of the time I'm doing razor education. Um, 20 percent of the time Classic scissor cutting education, you know, some people still want to learn The foundations of precision. I spent the whole day today teaching, uh, men's graduate. Yeah, that's cool You had a book full class today. Yeah And you said it was a four week program. Yeah, we do something here twice a year called boot camp where Students come and live in new york for four weeks and they become completely immersed You know, uh, 40 plus hours a week five days a week from Um, nine to five for four weeks and the first week is classic scissor cutting Then we go into color and texture then they come back to classic men's Cutting, uh, then they do some editorial styling and occasion styling and then the last week is all razor Cool. So, um, it's been it's been a good time. Well, I love I love the facility. It's cool I like the layout of it and how everything it's just you have everything you could ever want in this building Yeah, I mean it's it separated really well. So, um, you know, it's cool that nick did that And I got the the background story of where the first part of the salon was and how it expanded So, yeah, I mean, that's the thing, you know, a lot of people don't know. I mean, you know, when nick started Um, he had a four chair. He was a renter literally He had a you know, he had a big partnership uptown that didn't work out well for him And he didn't he left with not much 25 000 dollars And he was able to rent a small space in the aveda institute around the block here four chair space And you know within 10 years had a 10 million dollar a year brand So 25 000 dollars to 10 million now we can't yeah, we can't say the tv didn't hurt Right, but how many hairdressers have been on tv that you don't hear about and nick's been off tv longer than he was on tv He hasn't been on tv in i don't six seven years. Yeah, so it's not you know, it's not just about that It's about creating a sustainable culture that's fueled by education quality Dedication to the craft and it's really not because when when I I didn't know nick was on tv But when I would go to the new york show the pre not even the presence because it was like he had his booth there But it just there was such a vibe of it was really just about Cool hair education and just teaching people and that was I mean just teaching people was always about Yeah, you know for the professionals Obviously that's been crucial and then for clients, you know I mean tv was obviously a way to get the name out and also to get this out there Because nick did literally hundreds of makeovers using a razor that like I said it was great for our education because again nobody They saw it and they didn't know how to do it and they you know They asked their hairdressers and then their hairdresser said I got to learn how to do that So it's all kind of worked hand in hand Well, I mean it is everything's an evolution and I think if there's a hairdresser out there looking to be inspired I think just listening to you talk is is definitely enough to get somebody going Um, one other question from somebody on instagram says Um, this is a question i've been thinking about for a while. How do you distinguish yourself from a hairdresser hairstylist to a hair artist And what can I do to become an artist? What are some great techniques? Well, I mean, you know I the first thing that comes to mind is you really don't I mean that just happens through you know I don't think you can focus on saying how can I become an artist? I think you just have to immerse yourself in the craft first You have to have references and you have to always be looking to create You know, whether it's beauty, um, you know, I mean the first part of my career I wasn't as interested in beauty. I wanted to try to You know create things that were striking or different or Edgy or whatever the word is and now the second half of my career. I'm less interested in that and more interested in You know, how can I make this more beautiful? Whatever that means? Um So I think it's about who you hang around with I think it's about being open to um References looking at art, but I don't think focus on focusing on being an artist Um Is necessarily the route to go down, right? I think it's just being open to doing the best you can do every day and learning from your mistakes Um copying, you know, that's like that old Picasso thing, you know, the best artists, uh Don't what is it? They don't just copy. They steal, you know If I see something that I think looks good. I try it Yeah, and eventually you make it your own because if it's done with my hands It's mine. Right. I mean I can't you can't do my haircut for me so Um, I think by nature of what you're doing in the road that you're going on you lead to be be an artist Awesome. Well, you heard it from the man himself. Let's do you want to plug anything? You got anything coming up besides the uh, you know, I just think you know If you're a hairdresser that's actually, you know sat down and listen to something like this like, you know I commend you for um, you know having that level of passion and interest in what you're doing and I think that You know, you belong on harebrains and hopefully you're already there and if you're not come and check it out, you know Yeah, it's cool. It's easy to set up a profile. Yeah, um, it's You know, it's so you can share anything that you want. I love that you guys are always Adding things like I remember one of my first video got featured on harebrain And it's just like such a good feeling, you know, it's it's it's being shared with a community of Your peers and people that's ultimately the infinite game. There's always something to keep playing Playing it forward, you know, that's something that nick has always said And you know, I was just talking to him the other day about this infinite game because he always uses this saying Play it forward play it forward, which I believe comes from from soccer or football And I said that's the kind of game that we want to be playing You know, and if it's it doesn't have to be about yourself So if I feature you I've just played it. I've just pushed the ball forward Right, you know, we keep pushing it forward and that's what's about cool. And if people want to book you for education Um, they can they can get in touch with loretta at a rojo nyc.com. Okay, you know, I do I still do in salon education Um, I travel, you know, I don't do it as much as I used to I used to make my whole career doing it But you know six to ten times a year. I visit salons around the country and do hands-on education Um, all the major trade shows and events, but primarily the best thing to do would be to come to a rojo nyc and take a class You know, I I tend to teach the majority of them Um along with the team here and um, I think it's a great experience like you said to actually come some place like this and realize, you know What can I do to make that happen? Yeah, yeah, I think The most the biggest place that I look to try to inspire is people that can't be in areas like this And they're looking sitting there looking for inspiration. They can't go to new york Or they can't go to chicago or whatever to see or they just they can't I know I know I saw your face. I saw your face. I hate that. I hate that you if you Want success you have to go out from Iowa. So I'm here. Well, you have to go and get it You know, I'm people always, you know, a lot of hairdressers don't make a lot of money and they say it's where I live It's where I live and I say move. No, you know what I mean? There's there's in every state in this country You can charge over a hundred dollars for a haircut every single one every state It might not be the zip code you live in You might have to drive two hours a day to get there if you don't want to move But you can well, I live in a town of 3,500 people and I charge a hundred dollars for a haircut There you go. So it can be done. There you go and it works. So drard. Thank you very much It's a pleasure having you be a part of this having you at your place Thank you for letting us come. I will see you Okay, so we're back Real time that's hilarious If you guys would have seen how we edited that one together, um, so we're back and we're going to go into industry news We saw the wheel to spin and uh some uh, I think that's pretty much and a little business tip But that's not going to be that long and a game for me and a game for Brian. What time is it? We've like what time is it 10 35 It's 10 35 Okay, so let's so basically industry news sally beauty turns 50 according to modern salon It was a cool article in there So if you get a chance Brian found one thing that he thought was interesting. It started in new Orleans I thought that was interesting because so did I yeah, that's where I was born That's where I started um Me and sally. Yeah, so both big deals. Yeah Are you doing that? Yeah what Under the naha thing. Yeah, I'm gonna do that. So naha turned 25 So there's a birthday and that was on uh modern salon as well So a couple of great articles on modern salon if you want to read them, you know, we don't have to really go over them I just thought it was cool that Um, you mean I worked for sally beauty Nice, I was not excited about it At all the whole time. Okay, because I was in I have said this before but I was in beauty school when I was working there So I already had that whole like don't Color your hair at home and then everybody comes in they're like So what kind of dye should I get and uh color my hair with and then you know, you have to tell them so I quit Nice plus they all had these like fake products in there. It was like this is like That's where I used to get my manic panic when I was young. Yeah Which is cool because it felt like legit because I was like, oh, it's a beauty supply store So like it's going to make this pink last even longer in my hair. Yeah No, I no so happy 50 years that says that they've opened. Um I think what I read on there was like 10,000 locations in the last couple years. So nice Well, actually there's only 3,400 locations worldwide Oh, so I don't think they open 10,000 Yeah, I was totally off check out modern salon for that article. It a really big year this year Wait, really? Yeah Locations worldwide even it was really late last night. I looked at that I think they open like a million stores this year. Yeah, 3,000 worldwide in 50 years All right, yep 19,000 people work for them. That's pretty cool for the 100,000 stores there. Yeah That's not bad nine Okay, let's go Oh wait, so let's go what so we have two things We're just going to do this right now. So we have our Uh, we have something to share because last week We were in the salon and it was after splitting hairs actually right because thad left and went to the knack I believe obviously So when thad was at the knack, we knew that this was going to happen. We just didn't know exactly when This was going to happen. We were waiting. I don't know why there weren't bets on it So thad we should have bet on we should have thad thad is really into Fitness weightlifting he's been cutting for a while. He can't wait to eat a cheeseburger on june 1st, right? So we all know where we're going thad um On instagram put up a picture And what was that picture drew? Oh, there it is. There it is. There it is. There's thad And so the muscle picture came out for the first time that we've seen Yeah, so And we all were just standing here and we're like it happened Just happened that literally was the vibe between everyone. It was like, yep. Yep. We knew this was happening Thad used to be like this really skinny Kind of scrawny guy and he's been working really hard for the last year Yes, and a half right Every day and there is he's now joined the legions of guys taking gym Hashtag flexing On instagram So congratulations thad on your new found muscles Thank you for posting them for the world to see. All right, so we have a game Are you ready for this? No, so can you prep brine for the game? I don't know what this is. You just get ready Just relax. So my thing was I'm scared because of how big a smile it gives you so I know I'm screwed So my thing was I just want to see how well, you know, palmagell products So what we're going to do is we are going to you have that camera ready? Yeah, okay Yeah So we are going to we have to do this quick though because we don't have much time. Um Blindfold you So that was the blind hole. Yeah, that's why I had to come over the blindfold this morning. You're super slick. Yeah So we're gonna blindfold you Wait, what is this? It's my socks I have a huge head. I know you should have thought about that I was gonna custom order a huge handkerchief, but I forgot a sack of potato Amazon wouldn't do same day delivery. Um Are we good? Oh, check it out. All right Okay, all right, so you got the product so we're gonna start off with one product What you have to do is you have to smell this product. Am I eating it? No, you're not eating it You're just gonna smell it because I will and then you have to tell us what that product is or at least The category that's in because most of them categories smell the same so First product Coming up. Are you ready for this? This is not a product knowledge test I know but you have to know all the ingredients and everything, right? So I figure if you know the smells as well, it'll be good I don't like this I'm just afraid someone's gonna like fart in my face. No, that's not good. This isn't jackass. This is fine. No You can't smell it really I don't know. We'll give him another one I can barely smell anything. Is it the towel? I just smell this dirty towel on my face It smells like something Awa Pui while gender. There it is Is it the conditioner? No, it's the oil. That's probably why I didn't Oh, good job. Awa Pui while gender style treatment oil job. All right next one. Am I done? Let's do two more This is funny What this is funny? Oh, I know. Yeah, what is it? Super skinny shampoo or conditioner. It's in so it's in smoothing category But it's a styling product Is it the uh relaxing bomb? Yes, it is check him out Not yet. Give him a That one's good. That's a we'll do two more trust Trust In what? Oh quick slip That's not gonna get you far with palm. I tell the story all the time. I love That's probably my favorite product But it's the only product that palm. Mitchell makes that I don't like to smell of okay. I think it smells like fish food No, next one. Okay, and that's it. But it's a great product. It's in my hair Actually, just give him that one. Oh my god. We don't need to trick him. No, the palm Mitchell one we were gonna trick you with a non, but you know what I like this. This is impressive This is a tough one though So think hard It smells like one of the hair sprays Okay, it's not a hair spray What smells it has that same smell as the hair sprays. Okay, like the It's a tough one It's a product it doesn't have hold but it But it's not a hair spray. What category is it in that is it soft? It I was gonna say it smells like one of the soft flexible because you know all those sprays smell the same Yeah, but it's not a hair spray like the freeze and shine smells like the super clean all that. Yeah It's not a hair spray but it still smells like those. I don't know. What is it? It's the shine the shine the shine. Yeah, that's a tough one. That was good. Okay, you can take it off Thanks Thanks, that was a good sport. Oh my god It's really right when you come out of a blindfold in here. Yeah So good job. Thanks So you're I think you're gonna have a good weekend based on that. I think you know I think this could have happened. They might do this. It's true. So I think you're um Personally, I hope that you have a great weekend. I think that you know more than anyone About these products. So I'm very excited to hear how you do And I think it's gonna be a good trip for you. So congrats on that I'll call you while I'm out there and let you know how it's going. Um, I'll selfie from class. Yeah You're back next Friday, right? Yeah, yeah, so Oh, which reminds me you can get a recap on it We might not be able to do a Step four next week because it won't be a Wednesday. We'll figure it out. We'll we'll film it Without me. Yep. No, we'll film it when you get back So How could we film it without you? Yeah, so Um, so quick business tip. I thought this was cool. I read it on uh behind the chair dot com It was a like five quick tips for um Start promoting special offers Basically on your website and stuff right now because the thing I thought about this was think ahead Don't so bridal packages Get it bridal packages graduations memorial day Like all this stuff the father's day that's coming up Think about those things now and start promoting them because if that's something that you're trying to drop business in for your salon You want to think ahead and not uh, it's like me. I all of a sudden it's like two days before and you're like I wish I would have thought about that. So, um Or okay, I've decided we're doing this promotion now Starting today. Let's go. Yeah So like come up with it have meetings together and we'll go over it You know and that's things that it would be cool to do that on splitting hairs sometime What maybe when we have everyone here just kind of think about Holidays that are coming up promotions that we want to run and just do it like this because then people could see how that process works I have a good end of year one All right, I'll come up with it for the end of the year. Okay, cool So, um, let's let's bring your mom on Okay, I want to talk to your mom for a second. Come on mom Don't trip on the cords. Come on over Here you can take my seat It's the most uncomfortable seat ever so let's So just make sure when you talk you just talk right into that microphone. Okay, and So You're you live in Key West, right? I do so brian brian tells me that you always have things about the show and everything so tell me tell me what When you watch the show now being here What do you think is like the big difference from watching it on the computer to seeing it happening? you probably You probably edit out less than A lot of what you're doing is is what you end up seeing. Yeah, this this is it. Yeah. Yeah. We don't really edit It's all pretty much the way it is. So that's cool. And then um, so you're here for a big wedding Your son's getting married right royal wedding. So that's exciting, right? It is and you have your dress and everything I have my dress. So tell me about brian as a kid So tell me tell you like what he So when he told you he wanted to be a hairdresser, let's talk about that Did he come tell you that or was that something you just figured he was going to be? I don't know Um, brian's always been creative. Okay started really little. He was going to be an actor And then decided he was going to be a director. Okay, and then of course towards High school. He told me He's either going to be famous or infamous. He didn't care which and that made me very nervous. Okay And then a little bit of bartending. I think he's always he's an incredible artist. Yeah, and I always thought he would be Um an illustrator cartoonist design or something like that. Yeah, but this is this is his mode of Of creating things. So this is his art. It's really cool I do like her haircut. So he was stressing about your haircut. He was like my mom's coming and I need to like She loved the haircut last time. So It's cool. It looks really good. So let me think. Um, so then when brian was In beauty school, he came he were in jersey for that, right? He came to new jersey And you were still you've been in key west for how long eight years? Eight years? I want to go to key west. We gotta we gotta make a trip I know I need a slide right there We need a sign so maybe we'll open a sign in key west and we can just travel back and forth that works for me So is there any good salons in key west that you love? Um, I've been to a lot. So there's none that I've gone back to often enough. Okay, good Well, if there's any salons in key west that can hook up brian's mom, that would be great So let us know below because We need to be able to do this haircut some more. Perfect. Thank you That would be fun, right? Then I can leave brian alone. All right. So what time is it? We should probably do trending tresses. Thank you so much. Have a great wedding. Thank you. Thank you for coming And uh watching the splitting hairs all the time and giving us the critiques. Yes All right So dreah Yes, let's get into trending tresses. All right So we have set it up a little bit differently this week because you wanted to break down the styles A little bit more so we don't have as many Um, but pippa middleton has cut off Her longer hair. She's chopped it on to that shoulder length bob haircut and I think it's a styled half of that and then Didn't the other but I mean she's out of part. Yeah, I mean Huh It's interesting I would have liked to see a little bit more movement and layers through here a little bit more texture It looks a tad heavy. It's a little heavy. It's a little blunt Except for the little face framing that was right around her jaw, but that's how I would like to see it differently Then we have diana agron who I missed this last week, but apparently she chopped her hair off specifically for the mat last week Oh, nice She's no stranger to chopping her hair though. She's not there's a picture out there That I use of her all the time for like this great textured like razory messy bob So I like when she cuts her hair Yeah, so I thought that was fun. I liked it because it was more I liked how she styled it for the gala. That was fun all right Then we have nina do a breath who has created a little bit more of A balayage ombre But what I like about it is it does have some dark pieces going through it still at the bottom Right. Yeah, we were talking that's what sort of kept us from wanting to just call it an ombre Was that there was still some dark I think if you mixed your balayage technique with your balayage ombre technique, that's how you would achieve this Yeah, and I gotta say she's one of very few ombres that I've seen that I really liked that Doesn't have any lightness going to the root like you know, there's usually some around the face This is just like a mid shafts an end one that actually looks really pretty Well, what I really like about it is because she's so dark and rich on top that um She would look washed out if she had that blonde up there, and I think that's what is the key to this Look here, right cool. All right Then we have Kylie Jenner who has um She had lightened up her hair and then now she has blue over top of it and I put this in here because I know brian is a big fan of inkworks and um I just wanted him to talk about how you know, you can't always just straight from the bottle of ink To put it on something. It doesn't always come out Well, it's just about making sure whatever base you're putting it over Like if you don't get it light enough and we discovered that with my hair If you get if you only lift to yellow and you try to put blue over it you end up with green, right? Yeah so cool Then we have Blake lively. She um This style was talked about for what award show was this? No, it was the can film festival. Oh, yes, okay There's so many so many um But what brian and I both thought was really interesting when we talked about it yesterday Was essentially what this style is it's just a sleek ponytail That they've then it looks like they Rouged it a little up at the base and started the braid a little bit Further down, but it's just a simple three-strand braid that they've pulled out and created this style for It was really cool. I like that maybe we get buried to do that Yeah tip tip of the week. Yeah Very here you go maker All right, and that was it very cool. Very cool. So uh to sum everything up I have videos coming up I'm going to do some evo videos because this is like one of the coolest tools ever So I'm going to uh that screen it's the tv's not touch screen but if you had a tablet you can touch the the screen but um You know, it's just it's going to be really cool to be able to showcase this stuff my some of my favorite things on here are the fact that you can Like the reporting when you look at it It comes up like Almost like you're driving a sports car is what I said to them this combo bar You can type in brian appointment at 5 p.m. And it'll just take you right to the book So there's so many things on the software that I think is going to be you know Really cool to showcase and to show people what mevo is all about and you can get it for 49 dollars a month For a chair rental and all that stuff. So um So yeah episode 32 Success one for the box. We haven't picked the winner yet so spray bottle we have this on on uh, I gotta spin shop fse. Oh, we do have to spin So, you know, just new products, whatever. It's fine. Just go on the store. It's a spray bottle. It's cool looking Uh dra, who's spinning to win? All right. So our spinning to win is greggory calibri Okay, cool. Gregory. What are you gonna get? We got to work on Powerpoint pivot point pivot point power point pivot point head. That's the The magnetic head thing that don't stick to mirrors. Oh, it's awesome. All right, so The don't stick here. They stick to a dry erase board and you can draw around it um, I've used them in a lot of my classes already and uh, just being able to not have to trace Well, plus it's just fun. I mean even if you're not teaching with it to sit there and just kind of Give yourself another way to visualize whatever yeah to map out your own map out in your head, right? So it's neat. So congratulations on that and uh, yeah, that's it. All right guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode with gerard and and brian's mom I mean, there's so much so much stuff happened this time. So thank you so much for watching Plugs right anything instagram hairstyle hairstyle dra day 2289 Free salon education check us out on facebook instagram subscribe to us on youtube and we will see you guys on the next video And fad bow and and fad bow nice If you want to check out his muscle pictures, yeah There's more to come i'm sure If you want to see this you want to see fad point you on the way to the beach That way check them out that bow nice dot com All right guys, we'll see you on the next video Hey guys, this is barrett silatano from freesaloneducation.com with our tip of the week this week I'm just going to show you how to do a simple easy rope braid A lot of people think that you just have to twist it one way and go that go one go the same way with it But it's really the opposite. So I'm just going to show you a quick easy technique to do it And here we go. Okay, so we're just going I'm just going to split it down the back of this mannequin Really simple Get everything in one hand A lot of people can do these to the side. I think they're kind of fun to the side. You want to twist it to the right And then you're going to start the other side And also twist that to the right Now here's the key when it comes to the rope braid you twist it to the right But then you go opposite When it comes time to crisscross them to do the braid section keep twisting Keep twisting to the right both sections and crossing over to the left Twisting to the right once you kind of get in a groove. It's a little bit easier Keep twisting to the right same thing all the way down This is a fun braid that you can pull out make a Peacier braid make it a little bit messy on the sides And it's just something fun and quick and easy that you can do If you have a longer piece on one side twist that piece a little bit more And then what we're going to do we're just going to take a hair elastic Put it around you want something a little bit tighter So I wouldn't recommend using a thicker elastic when it comes to something like this If you have enough hair at the bottom you can wrap it around to cover the elastic And then you're just going to take A heavier hairspray And get any loose ends Say if you have A few layers within there Then you're just gonna I'm just going to fray out the bottom just to give it a little bit of texture But if you have any layers in there taking that heavier spray Going down with it along the rope And keeping it within that braid and there is our simple two strand rope braid stay tuned next week I'm barrett silatana with our tip of the week