 Yeah sir welcome back to the show Jamal Crawford three times six man of the year how we doing great what's up bro all good you see nominee to come on I'll stop that I'm not doing this with you I'm not this is the best this is the best quarter class everybody else is tops this is the best quarter class and JC we talked about it both of y'all first ballot right you both are there you know you next um JC we talked about it John Moran back last night after 25 game suspension in a big big way what are your expectations for him kind of going forward for the rest of the season he's bringing life into not only his team but to the city you know I'm saying and that's the thing like job he wasn't technically hurt so you can still work out he can still play and then he's not coming back for a role it ain't like oh you got to come back to get our star and you got to figure like now you come back to be job you come back to him and he did that last night I was happy for him because job over there's a great young man almost a kid he's a great young man so everybody goes to the university so with that to him come back to to make that statement on mom's birthday like come back and set the city on fire hit the game winner on mom's birthday first game back and first game winner and last night you see at the time out he was asking the guy should we give the ball to triple jay in the post how should we handle this close of game he obviously missed some time it's still obviously his team he's the face of the franchise face of the league moving forward oh absolutely no doubt about it and we'll make some special it's his mind and how it works I always said when I first saw him like damn he's a he's a combination between D Rose and CP like the way he thinks the game with that athleticism so just seeing him back obviously being a selfish saying you know what we can go to triple jay I ain't tripping but they're like nah it's the 12th team you back bro so and then deliver you know I mean I think that gives confidence to everybody absolutely big win for the Warriors last night um Dre mine out with a suspension of course what should what should take on a suspension and do you do you feel like the league got this right I think they got it right because when I first saw him definitely out here to be honest I'm like damn he's gonna be out a while but then I start looking at it definitely again and seeing the steps they took I'm like oh and definitely for them just means care that they care about him as a person they care about him it's future it's like not just in the league out the league we all hear horror stories when guys go out the league and they don't have the structure and you know how things could go and Ray Ma is a good dude he's I know him personally you guys know him personally he's fiery and at times you know we've seen it work against them so they got it right with it the suspension but I think they got it more right with getting the true health that may be needed Jamal if you're on his team you're in that locker room if any what if anything do you tell him after this you know last incident yeah I just tell him just remember you know that that young kids out there look up to him you know that he has a family and young kids of his own and just take a second to think about it because you don't want him to lose that fire that's what makes him who he is but I also don't want this to be what he's remember by Force Legacy like Draymond is a Hall of Famer four-time champion like they need to remember you for that one of the best defensive players ever one of the best teammates ever like Draymond has been so good over the years being a point forward that's a loud step to have the freedom he has a lot play to have that freedom he's been the hardest soul he's a thinker for the team so I want him to be remembered that way and not by the incidents this happened how this team is current how this team is currently built you think they can win another championship I'm not sure they could win a championship but I didn't think they could win that last one you know when they went through Dallas and then Boston either so you can't really count them out whenever you got Steph you got a chance and Steph is it's weird because as you guys know this is one of the greatest of all time you want the greatest of all time Chandler is it was cold as ice like as you guys know nobody wants to have those games you doubt it because somehow you're gonna find a way to come back and and within that Steph has a inner drive you know I'm saying he has a inner drive and that's what's even more impressive like he's accomplished everything he's done everything but to still have that drive at 35 years old to still say let's do this let's go for one single game I'm not counting on somebody like that I feel that what I stay in the way I stay in the west with you the Clippers that figured it out eight in a row you know that's you know that's my gang that's my side right there but those guys are playing great you think they can come out of you think they can put it together and come out of the west they got a chance and when you have that much talent and they're willing to sacrifice and they kind of figure out their roles I feel like no matter when Kawhi is healthy and you know better than me you play with when Kawhi is healthy everything kind of has to go through him like he's gonna take us where we got to go and then we play around that and he's not only healthy he's engaged you can see the bouncing the step when he's running he's more like showing more emotion this year like he's more excited like you know a contract years do that to everybody right but just the fact that him being healthy and being like you know I'm here I think they got a chance because when the game slows down that's when he's at his best absolutely it's good to see him engage like you said because sometimes during games you can see him he's he's kind of stuck in his ways he want that ball on that mid post kind of slow the game down he's methodical in his attacks but how this team is built they got to play a faster pace they got to play a faster pace game and so he's adjusted his game to that and it's been working for them so I give him I give him credit for that so we so with the Clippers rolling how the Lakers are playing who's the best team in LA right now right now I'm going Clippers for sure it's just they figured out who they are like like you said James is brought a new balance in this way you play with both of those we played all three did you play a rush too Lou? I play I play with uh I play no I didn't that's the only one I didn't play with that's the only one you're gonna play with so I mean the fact that they're playing the way they're playing they're willing to sacrifice James brings a different swagger PG's rolling uh Kawhi obviously that we talked about and then Russ let's talk about Russ because like how he was portrayed in LA the LA Lakers like all this dude was a cancel in the locker room he's one of the most giving teammates I've ever heard about and I never played with him this just what I heard and I know him as a person and for him to say you know what this isn't working on forwards I'll come off the bench and sacrifice tells what kind of person he is so I think that move needs to be more applauded because that move could be what saved their season and saved and got them on track by him going to the bench. I think it definitely showed his growth uh Russ's growth for sure as as a man and as a player for sure but I want to ask you this you know Mack McClung was invited back to the dunk contest to uh defend his title you were there what were you most impressed about his performance that night? That every dunk got better and he didn't miss any of them you know it is like when you dunked and you didn't miss any of them it's different when we see it for the first time it's completed and seeing it for the eighth time you finally got it right right it's like no it ain't it he completed every single dunk the only problem was Mel man Mel man was the black hand he wasn't giving nobody no love so we had to go higher or something everybody else just balanced things out but no it was fun to do that for sure I can check it off the bucket list and I'm gonna follow up with you on that so if you could pick anyone current players because you know you get wow when I ask these type of questions but if you could pick anyone who would you want to see him compete against uh in the dunk contest this uh this coming all-star game you notice how I prefer his current player yeah you know I was going with it yeah I do but any any single person that's dunking right now or two you can give me two I think Sharpe and Portland is one Shaden Sharpe and uh Vc who you like I mean Duncan who you like out there I mean I mean Shaden Sharpe would be be my one I think that would be a great match up I mean uh man uh it's a it's a great opportunity for the league to get John involved I think so and I think it'd be great for John another guy we said as part of his suspension they should make job to the dunk contest that's the other guy is Anthony Edwards I would like to see you know what and if if Zach Levine was up to it I'd be or Derrick Jones Jr uh or or Aaron Gordon that would be the guys I would like to see to ask so it's kind of the the older mix and the younger mix and kind of see them kind of all go at it I love that but but if I had to pick one on road with y'all that that y'all in back on the main stage I'm going with y'all I'm gonna go with Shaden Sharpe I'm still going Matt McClellan Matt got all day to dunk I'm going Matt like you're bringing even more ducks we haven't seen though we asked him we asked him he said he's got a couple more tricks in his bag hey he got some stuff I've seen I believe a lot of video uh you know he's out oh he's out here in Orlando he's playing for their uh G league team a little funny but uh but he is playing basketball look by the way but now he's an athlete but I think uh McClellan versus Shaden Sharpe that'd be good right I'm here for can I ask y'all this can I ask y'all this if they had a one-on-one contest for five million dollars ten million dollars and you can see whoever you want to see get in the best players in the back can we do that could that be a thing could that be some people tune into that also it can be a thing shout out to T-max first of all yeah yeah shout out to Matt but I think that would be pretty rather interesting because there's a lot of guys who's saying he that person can't guard me and we saw Anthony Everett's uh the clip where he said you know he was trying to go at who was it uh was it LeBron but LeBron wasn't guarding him or something like that yeah yeah you know so I would love to see that uh but you know I the way the young guys are today and there's no disrespect you know they don't want to be put in that position if they don't have to to expose their brand so I don't I don't know if we'll get the best of us how much more fun would it be to watch the hooker play Jason Tatum one-on-one than watching one of these skills challenge that everyone changes the channel anyways and they're really going at it though like really really going at it yeah they're going to see anyway I don't know I see it different though fellas I I feel like if you put these guys in a position to play one-on-one on national television you might get some real sparks flying you know what I'm saying you have to put it on because you know how come yeah but you know how competitive we get it's gonna turn into a hackathon boy it's gonna get competitive and it's gonna be a hackathon they're gonna have to go to commercial a hundred times we ain't never gonna get through the game Jamal there's a lot of questions about the Lakers whether they want or they should hang the n-season tournament banner uh what was your take on that do you see this obviously sticking around a lot of positive feedback from this tournament do you think the Lakers should have should have hung it I think the tournament was dope but I keep seeing that Kobe that Kobe interview is like we don't hang we don't hang division batters we just don't but it also was the first of this kind to be recognized I think you hang it but I think you hang it in a smaller you know area with a different color or something it can't look like the rest of the banners it took you know years and years and years to kind of accumulate so I would hang it but it got to be smaller and it got to be a different color just to say okay we did win this thing this tournament but it wasn't like winning a championship it can't feel the same I think Adam Silver was going to tell anyone they had to hang that regardless they're trying to keep that going that is that that is a promotion for the for the future right there you know because that tournament is there we won't forget it that's why you know we don't bother we won't talk about this but if they didn't hang in this tournament is dead right like they had say forget about it you forget about it but if the clippers end up winning that and the clippers hanged as their first quote-unquote banner then people kind of laugh out right or no yeah for sure I mean the Lakers got laughed at too so it was the same thing it's the same it's the same say a Washington wins and there's banners way bigger than what the Lakers did I feel like you can't really have a right it's right is this something that you would have wanted to play in if they had this while you were playing or would you just look at like just just another game you know in December CP I wanted to play on a wet Wednesday in Utah I want to play anywhere anytime it it don't matter whatever I would absolutely love to play it especially 500k 500k I'm not even like money driven for real but like just to see younger dudes who are not you know actually getting it like that you would have definitely wanted to win for them you know I'm saying so you can help support what they got going as well because it I didn't think it would be as competitive it was so many teams that was so locked in and really like in it in it and that was dope to see because that's what we all want especially guys retire just compete just go at it and so for that to translate and then win I thought that was dope can I say one thing to that real quick guys you know what I thought was cool about it is how the young guys looked up to the vets particularly a LeBron James and probably other vets around they looked up to them like bro he did this for us this dude who got all over the world went hard for us to win because they weren't playing so they could they had zero control on what money you're going to get 500 or 200 200,000 but you know LeBron made it a point to say no I got you I got you don't worry about y'all chill out you know so I think what that did for them they look up to that man they'll never you can't say nothing bad about LeBron James to any of them young guys or any of the vets around the league for attempting to to bring money into their pockets who don't have it. That's what I enjoyed about it I I just enjoyed that he took pride in it yeah that was it I just I enjoyed the fact that he just took he took pride in it JC that that was really it for me I just loved how he carried himself he was excited he got the fans involved he was engaging he made it exciting you know and he he restored order in the court I am still the big homie y'all gotta y'all get in line I'm still the big homie see how crazy is that DC you played 2022 right yeah I played 20 lube cp a whole bunch of years how crazy is that that he's at this level still like this level he's playing at is unbelievable it's ridiculous every single night he's still bringing so I'm matched and he has the most energy I enjoyed seeing it man and go ahead Lou go ahead VC I'm sorry no I'm just saying I said I mean he's the oldest player he's bringing the most energy he's still dominant he still wants to be on the court it is still matters regardless of if it's game 25 12 it doesn't matter like he you still looking for like ah yeah he doing it but no he's the guy he's the most dominant and it matters to him and that's that's what's crazy about it at all I mean he can still get it how he live like he looked like a young guy still crazy right and JC and JC you can relate man you score 51 at 30 at 39 you still think you can go out there and get a 50 piece out of yourself a 50 I don't think I can get a 50 piece Lou but I'm telling you on the right night I can put up numbers if like you told me I had a month to really get in shape like true basketball shape to play at that level and I was gonna get minutes and I was gonna kind of be featured through the second year or whatever I can go to numbers but another 50 piece that was God but I was God sending me off right that's all that was that wasn't me that's that was called in the zone my brother yeah we got me we got you we got Lou we got Vince and we get a five man of our choice can we beat the pistons right now right now today is in December we get a month training camp we all about to say we need a month training camp don't lie to yourself we beat the hell out of the pistons we need a six or seven man hey cp we got action we got action we got action we got action I feel good about it yeah I feel good about it ain't gonna lie yeah we cp you gonna start off in the first quarter you're gonna get us going second quarter I'm gonna do my thing bc third quarter we we we going to the underground go closing the four we straight yeah I'm cool with sharing my time hey I just want to get at it like but I don't know how it would turn out but that would be fun man it would hurt you know I'm the oldest of this panel but it would hurt me but I'm with you I'm serious it's a pistons watching this show upset but Lou this is more we probably are I mean but it's just competition and I think the competition of it all is what you know we live for and you know I think it would be good for someone like them to see it like bro it don't matter like we've been to I've been sitting over four years now well you too mom but you know it's just and cp you've been out well how long three to 2021 that's what I'm saying so you know but to see the competition and how it matters I think that's what it what maybe we don't win but it just sees how it how it matters and I think that's what they need to kind of get over the hump they need something they said maybe cp if you're coaching if you're coaching the pistons tomorrow if you get hired tomorrow for whatever reason or your assistant coach or whatever what are you changing to break up that and mine instead of losing that being wrong what are you bringing to locker room what are you telling me I mean to me they don't have the talent right there's some guys on their team that just face that aren't NBA players they have some future assets I love Kate Cunningham I love some of their pieces but to me it's all about effort they got to leave it out there on the floor you're not going to win every game you're not going to win most games but to me as long as I see that effort if I see them competing night in night out then I can live with that as a coach right we've all seen the film sessions where the next day we're like damn we don't we don't we don't want to watch that we didn't box out we didn't dive on the floor when we could have I feel like when you have a team that's less than that is talented like them you've got to be the best at that you have to have the highest energy it's not like they're the oldest team the league either they're young they're fresh so to me I would just want to see them play harder man and like compete at some point jump up the game a little bit self-respect jump up the game switch it up put a full court press in there you know you're young guys be active be be use your energy use your youth a little bit more like I just feel like that's what you got to do you know you you have to out athlete sometimes you know you know if you don't you know have the knowledge well be where's your motor you can control that that's stuff that you can control I just think you just got to switch it up man I'm starting the game with a full court press just to look different we had 94 feet throw a 131 in their events anything why not is it why not so hey uh well I want to ask you who do you think right now in this league is the most underrated player that's not really getting you know that's not getting any any love but who do you think one of the most most underrated player in the league hmm I think I don't think a lot of people talk about theirs garland like that like they talk about him as spicy and he is nice like there's garland's nice I love watching him obviously there's nothing in there all for sure he should be all star this year jaylen brunson is the person who other stars want to play with because he understands what it takes to win he understands culture he under you can trust him like he should be a face of a franchise and he's going to get more people to come to New York but he's all about winning the way he plays the pace he plays that Lou and I both coach you right so we're teaching kids to play off two feet you can see everything clear when you get to the basket you can see if you're open you can see if you you know or have a teammate open jaylen brunson lives in that space like that's what he does so he always is under control I think I think SGA is cold you know I mean like yeah he's in pub but the way he's actually playing my man is a problem like if you really watch him he is cold cold and he's doing the way where those other guys are okay seeking bro so there's some dope ones out there for sure there's a lot of talent right now let me ask you this on the flip side of that I don't like to say NBA players are overrated but if there's any guy out there put your coaches in your GM hat on who would you like to see step it up I don't think he's overrated but I think Anthony Davis I just feel like with all that talent he has to be more consistent like I was one of the ones last year like me and LeBron got to come out publicly and say this is your team like Wade did for him for them to really take off bronze done that he's they've gave you the team you can't have 40 and then eight or 36 and then six like he's too good for that his talent more so much more he's one of the top 75 players ever or he's voted that right so I think he's the one that really has to step up I think Zion's the other one I think Zion people forget Zion was gonna be crowned the next face of the league so that's why people are so hard on him he wasn't just crowned to be a superstar he was crowned to be the face and then here comes John here comes you know Winby here comes all these other guys that are like just took it you know I'm saying and I think with that that's why people will have a problem with everything he's doing yeah he's doing numbers but it's like bro you're supposed to be the face and you still can do that and hopefully when the old generation or other people are you know saying things to you it motivates you to go get that because you have that kind of talent it's crazy because these guys aren't overrated right like they're just not overrated it's not overrated we want more and we expect more out of them because of how good they can be every single day right uh Jamal recently my guy Mark Cuban said you were the first ever draft pick it is um that he hung out with that he drove around listen I got my own stories with him he's very hands-on owner what do you what do you remember what do you remember about that situation or hanging with cubes just how cool he was like we playing a rap we just ride riding through Dallas and just just chilling it didn't feel like an inn you know cp better anybody it wasn't like he was a owner like we was really just boys chilling and it's crazy because there's so many stories you never tell right but for him to bring that up you know that's something I would never even brought up but like he was just so cool and I was like damn is every owner like this you know because this is his first year so I don't really know I'm a rookie so I'm not knowing what it's really like but he was definitely one of one even back then and transgender and it's dope to see all the success you know that he's had since then and people don't give me if he was just talking about that people don't give that championship enough credit the one they won like how they had to do it the the roster that they had the time like they don't they don't get enough credit and how he built that thing up they cp you know they were one of the first teams in the league where we actually get real food after games and that stood out like damn we get real food it was like just something that you know we had to put an order in or something like that like he was a transgender so it's dope to see him out as a success that's the fact that is a fact see uh i'm at sea uh maul right now the sixth man of the year award is named after john havichick yes should it be renamed after someone else in the modern era perhaps uh the jamal crawford lou williams award something like that when a hall of fame were like you when a hall of fame were like you speak we all listen so if you if you're talking like that to be honest with you i think havichick obviously was a hall of fame where he did incredible things but to this generation they're gonna look at lou and myself as kind of you know champion that award so with that i saw what i said yeah exactly so i would think you know when i see kids all over the country you know in jams from just coaching hey you they talk about both of us it's like we're synonymous with each other so i think it'd be dope to have that award or some they gotta be six they ain't no sum it's that award if that award was named after us five years you didn't go one time you two did not do it one time you two did not do it two times you guys did it three times name me somebody else that's done that i'll wait a a bc and and also lou before you go people did not want to be a six man nobody was like it's a six man everybody we all grew up wanting to start so now that you see these guys and you throw in my new for sure and jason terry that was before us but even then i still didn't hear people saying they wanted to be six men tyler johnson told me ma was the best player in the state i came off the bench because i saw you and lou is my favorite player so it's dope to see you know these young guys come into league and he just finished the league that you had an impact on that is true i'm gonna keep real we need that we need that look we need that we need that last last question last question ma lou real quick you think about the people that's gotten awards and why did they give them awards because of the impact they had off of that award alone you guys have a real impact off of that award and there's no disrespect to the the others that you mentioned maul but like you guys have done it multiple times that's called impact and can i say one last thing before y'all go when lou started myself and i didn't make all stars six man it killed me because i'm like how can you ask somebody to sacrifice and do what's best for the team but then you penalize them by saying all but they're planning to get second union guys so that's why they got these numbers and i when it didn't happen for me i said it's gonna happen for lou lou's average and 20 plus off the bench they went and put him in the all star game and i remember tweeting that i remember texting him that there's no way that he should not have been an all star he's one of the most feared players in the game period off the bench or not you knew what he was gonna bring to the table so don't have somebody sacrifices a six man and then i'm the other end say oh but i can't put you as an all star because you came off the bench that ain't right y'all still close games you'll see Robert really appreciate you coming on thank you bro