 Okay, we're back here. Final stretches of the OpenStack Summit. I'm John Furrier with SiliconANGLE. This is our exclusive coverage of the OpenStack Summit in Portland, Oregon. I'm here with John Walker with Red Hat, with Gluster. You guys came over to Red Hat. Welcome to theCUBE. Thank you, thank you for having me. It's great to be here. So you can see us where our eyes are bleeding, three days of wall-to-wall coverage and an amazing, I mean, we could run, I mean, I could literally go another six hours. We have guests, but our team will collapse. Alcohol may or may not have been involved. That's not a problem, we've had no problem. It's just the pure signal here has been amazing. Not a lot of hype, a lot of real development. Talk about what you're doing here, some of the things that are happening around OpenStack that you're orbiting into. Sure, absolutely. GlusterFast is a scale-out distributed file system. It can work in all the cloud platforms and it presents a single namespace, so it works the same with its own bare metal or any virtualized environment. What we're doing with OpenStack specifically, and to be honest, we're kind of late to the OpenStack party, but now that we're here, we're going in full force, and so what we do, we have integration points with all the storage interfaces with OpenStack, that includes OpenStack Swift, OpenStack Glance, and now OpenStack Sender, and what we've got coming out is a new release, GlusterFast 3.4, and what it features is a Titan integration with KVM and QMU, so you can do VM image hosting and get pretty good performance, and it integrates right in with Sender and OpenStack, so you can use OpenStack to control all your VM images on GlusterFast. Let me ask you a question, take a step back and share with the folks out there some of the hallway conversations that you're getting into. Obviously, last night was a lot of activity, a lot of social, we went to three events. A lot of people were pretty happy, a lot of people were excited, I mean, just what are some of the hallway conversations that you just bump in? Just some of the tech shop you're talking with people. What's the main buzz? Well, the main thing I get asked about is when are we going to see an integrated solution with GlusterFast, and I'm telling people it's right around the corner that now we have the pieces in place, it's a matter of time before we get that easily deployed solution that you can just rip and go. Those are the things I'm asked about a lot, but I'm also asked about where's OpenStack going, how popular is this going to be? When you look at the trajectory of the last two years, it's been phenomenal with the growth of OpenStack, and it looks like that's going to go unabated and it's going to continue to grow just like it has. And the numbers are fantastic, we've got 3,000, almost 3,000 people here and a lot of enterprises, a lot of users showing off their wear, and there's a lot of tire kickers. I mean, you guys see people lurking in there, obviously online, a lot of great audience on SiliconANGLE watching, and it just seems like the enterprise, this is perfect fit for the enterprise. That's part of the joy of OpenSource is that the tire kickers come out in force and they're the ones who push your product or project in directions that you never thought was possible. That's part of what OpenSource is all about. They may never actually buy something or they may never actually be a long-term committer or part of your project, but they're the ones who set things in motion, they give you sort of that sense of gravitas, so they give you that large center of gravity to build. And also feedback too, they can tell you, hey, this is our horrible product, this sucks. You know, fix that, build this. You never have to just leave. Oh, just kick your tire aside. There's no source of opinions in the OpenSource community, as anyone who's participating this can tell you. That's why the queue is so popular here. You're very reluctant with your opinions, I can see. Of course, we don't hold back, but we give props when we need to be prop, so talk about the acquisition cluster to Red Hat and why that went down and why was the fit there? Sure, well, it's easy to see the fit. I mean, when you look at how much data is now being consumed and driven through the enterprise, you have to have a scale-out solution that can handle all of it and do something with it. The problem is the proprietary solutions, you keep having to go back every year and re-upping your license. You need an OpenSource solution that you can easily add more data to it and it's elastic and can scale up or down as you need. Red Hat saw that and Red Hat has this large bevy of products with touchpoints that all sort of center around storage. And so they said, well, if we have this elastic scale-out storage thing, it's going to help us build out all of our product lines, not just the storage product line. And so when you go back to October of 2011, which is when the acquisition occurred, that was part of the thought process. How do we engage with our customers in such a way that we can tell them, yes, we can grow your data platform with you, with all these other apps running on top of it? I had a great, great interactions last night with the Red Hat folks, CTO is there. Yes. A lot of the core folks. Great community, you guys are no stranger to community. Obviously OpenSource is obviously now going mainstream. The roots in Red Hat are there. What's your personal take? And if you can share the folks, the word community has been kind of a punchline. People use it a lot as a marketing slogan. And we have a community, the community. But in reality, communities are critical and OpenStacks proved it. Here, a successful community can really do some great things fast and high quality. As communities grow, what is that model? What would you share best practices of good community work? Well, let's look at the example of what happened to us after the acquisition. Before the acquisition, we were kind of an insular, tight-knit engineering group. We weren't externally focused. It was all about creating this product internally, and it happened to be under an OpenSource license. There's a big difference between that and the true OpenSource community where we're externally focused and we're looking at contributors and working with contributors and outside communities like the OpenStack Foundation, the OpenStack community. And as a milestone that we can point to now, we actually have our first major feature that's being contributed into this next release that came from a non-core engineer. And it's a huge victory for us and it shows us how we've grown over the past two years and where we're going and how it's just going to grow further from here. It's beyond just technical models. There's business models involved. We are Jim Curry, say here on theCUBE earlier, a huge business model, benefits to them as a halo effect. Absolutely. When you look at the adoption-led model, which is really what OpenSource is about, the customers take control. It's about seeding the control to the customer and the customer tells you what to do. And it's the ultimate example of that and you're giving the customers the freedom to say yes or no or how much on their time schedule. And that's exactly what OpenSource is all about. And you know, we love that too because one of the things that Jeff and I are passionate about, and Dave Vellante, who's not here at Wikibon, one of the things we're really passionate about is that we're OpenSource content. So the crowdsourcing dynamic is open source. It's people. And you get signals and you can get instant feedback. I'm not just trying to get people to punch you in the face, you know, like, or angry mobs or, you know. So this is the way. This is no debate here, right? I mean, this is what's happening. Crowdsourcing financing, crowdsourcing this, they're crowdsourcing the suspects in Boston as they speak. So this community model is going to explode. Let me tell you something. We have seen the last ubiquitous proprietary solution in the enterprise. I mean, we have, you look at the innovation that's happening right now. It's happening around all these OpenSource ecosystems. You look at the companies that are driving this forward, like the Facebooks, the Netflixes, the Twitters. And they're working with companies like Red Hat who understand this intuitively. We're the ones driving forward. You know, the old models of the proprietary software makers, that's not where the innovation is now. And you can see it's driving away from them. And the big leaders are recognizing that as well. I mean, IBM, HP, they're all basically endorsing it. HP was on theCUBE here. They said, hey, we could have done a proprietary cloud. There was a conversation. They have a tool chest full of stuff they could have done. And they're going OpenStack all the way. It just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to do the proprietary method. So what's the next big challenge with that model, though, right? Clearly everything's working great, but if we're going to do our little SWAT analysis and kind of like that. The next big challenge is cloud interoperability. It's all about the open hybrid cloud. How do you make clouds such that, you know, they're best of breed solutions. So the customer, again, gets to drive the ball. And it's not about the vendor driving things, but the customer choosing, picking and choosing the solutions that work for them on their schedule. So they can access their data their way. That's what the future is all about. And that's where we get interoperability between clouds. That's why I love the OpenStack model of letting operators deploy multiple clouds, but making sure that they interoperate in this vast mesh network. I think that's brilliant. I think that is the way forward and how we're going. Okay, John Walker, thanks for coming on the queue. We really appreciate it. Red Hat, Gluster, you guys successful acquisition. Tuck in for Red Hat. Red Hat had a great week. Some great announcements across the board from all the emerging sectors of Red Hat. A lot of action going on. The deal with Horton works. You guys had some work going on. All the areas are on open source. So congratulations. And we also announced this week that GlusterFS is OpenStack ready, so. Congratulations. Okay, we'll be right back with our wrap up here. Day three, our final day here inside theCUBE. I want to give a shout out to all the folks back at the ranch at siliconangle.com and Wikibon for blocking behind all these great interviews. I want to thank Makin' Kenny for doing a great job and Kristen Nicole, Markers and Hopkins. We'll be right back to wrap up day three and put a bow on this event. Exclusive coverage of the OpenStack Summit from siliconangle.com. theCUBE, we'll be right back. Thank you.