 Jesus is the only way. In the ultimate sense, Jesus says in the Course that you need not even believe in Him, which is quite a statement. But in another way, I think that was saying, you know, you could call it Coach Cola if you want. But the thing is, in the sense, it's still that same universal spirit and will that we're talking about. So it was as if you were saying, I, the Holy Spirit, because that too would speak through the person of Jesus. But I, the Holy Spirit, am the way, the truth, and the life. And the Holy Spirit is the truth that's within each of us, whether we've ever heard of the person of Jesus Christ or not. Or the Holy Spirit. Or the Holy Spirit. Right. The truth is still there. Yeah. Whether you, you know, are in China or in the Earth, or in Aborigines or, you know. We're real, we're real argumentals, and I kind of, I mean, with this, you know, I think the same thoughts, you know, I think we've got a real philosophical and religious conversation. And I said, now, Dick, I said, all these people in Africa that have never heard of Jesus, and whether they're all going to hell, you know. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. I said, well, listen, you know, you kind of damned the whole, a lot of these folks out here, you know, I said, well, they never heard of Jesus. And I said, well, I don't think God operates that way, Dick. He doesn't. He says he reveals those things of the Earth. Right. And if you have that expectation to find it, then by chance you might. But if you never seek it, or you never expected it, then you'll never know when you walked on it. And so. That's the basis of what he's saying here about perception too. That's kind of like what you're looking for within. You know, what you're really sincerely, readily looking for within, you'll see without in the world. So in other words, a lot of times people may even get in the trap of like comparing the Course to the Bible. You know, and saying the Bible comes up short to the Course. And basically what the Course is saying, if you really apply what the Course is saying is what you look for, you'll find. You know, there are a lot of people that have used the Bible as the tool of their point of view. The Bible says they can use your mind. Exactly. The Course will be open. And all the Course does is kind of uses educational terms and psychological terms. And a little more so than the Bible, in a sense, to kind of get at the same initial things. Also, what Jesus says in the Course is there are certain statements in the Bible that he kind of reinterpreted. That the ego has kind of used for its purposes. He says the ego loves to quote Scripture. You know, because a lot of things have been taken out of context of the Bible and used in the name of fear and hell and damnation and everything. And Jesus is saying that's just a misinterpretation. Some of them that he's worked with are amazing to me because like there was one in here I was reading. Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord. And Jesus reinterprets it and says, it's like the Holy Spirit saying to you, my child, you know, give me that idea of vengeance. It doesn't belong in your holy mind. Vengeance is mine. Give it to me. I can handle it. It's like, wow, is that a interpretation of one that I, you know, had looked at as kind of a very negative condemning statement. And he does that in here with things like from Judas. It's true too, you know. He says, I never could have said why betray a son of a man with a kid because I didn't believe in betrayal. You know, a lot of times you read the traditional Christian story. It seems like there's the 12 apostles and then there's the bad guy. There's the Judas, you know, who turned on his master and everything. And Jesus is saying in the sense that the crucifixion was just an extreme demonstration that when the father and the son's will were lined up, you can't kill the son of God. You know, that the mind is all powerful and the body is not. It's literally working. And in the sense he reinterprets the crucifixion in the Course and says the only message to the crucifixion was teach only love. Now, that's a pretty radical interpretation when, you know, ego interprets the crucifixion as, you know, one of God's beloved sons had to suffer and die to be the Lamb of God, literally, to take all the sins of all the world on himself. An innocent son had to do it. And if you really trace that thinking back, you still get back to what kind of God is it that would have his innocent beloved son have to go through a suffering trial and turmoil in order for atonement or salvation. I always say I don't want to have to get dinner with God. If that's the kind of father that would require that for atonement. And the Course is saying that basically from Jesus' perspective, he did not perceive he was being attacked. Through the ego lens, it looks like when somebody is kicking you and sitting upon you and screaming kill him, that this looks like an attack. But Jesus says I did not share that perception. In other words, he thought it was just a call for love. You know, forget them so they know what they do. And he calls us to similarly change our perception so that we can have such a trained perception that we literally go beyond the perception of being attacked by people. And we see everything as either a love or a call for love. You can see that takes a real highly trained perception. You know, we were talking, Nick was talking the night about this soul, seeing soul to soul. What the Course is saying is that when you realize that your brother is just calling out for love, instead of perceiving him as attacking you, then you will respond with love. And that makes a lot of sense to me. You know, not that you perceive attack and then somehow because of the kindness of my heart. But because I'm a more advanced spiritual teacher, I'm the kindest of my heart I'll forgive you. Jesus kind of says that's not forgiveness. You know, you can call it what you want, but it's not, you know, true sense of forgiveness.