 testimony, right? If you go and do a bit of research and you know what the costs are, you won't be duped by a contractor or a builder. If he comes and says, you know, it's going to be 10,000 grand for this paint, you can say quite comfortably, no, that's not the case. So that's I think why, you know, if you're serious about property investing, go spend an afternoon or two in builders warehouse, understand what material costs cost. And then what I would say is if you're looking at a property investment that requires a lot of renovations, take one or two builders with, get them to quote to you, I would say get at least two quotes so that you can come here.