 the SID display week here with NovaCentrix and who are you? I'm Ian Rawson from NovaCentrix and I'm an applications engineer so basically what I do is find applications for our inks and our tools in various markets so and in the case of SID I think there's a lot of interest in moving from you know rigid glass and things like that to more flexible plastic which is also you know very durable so that you can have a flexible display or something like that I've been looking around this is the cool thing the new plastic OLED plastic LCD plastic display yeah and you can work with them yeah well so you know we focus a lot on conductors but there's a lot of other things in terms of applications for the pulse forge and the pulse forge is just a flash of light which heats up those materials very quickly but for a very short period of time you know for things like OLEDs I don't know maybe it would be possible to you know dry out solvents and things like that and cure those materials on on plastics instead of glass where ovens are used or something like that and the case of what we have here we have a tool which we sell and it's using inkjet to print a silver ink so it's just silver nanoparticles and in dispersion the inkjet print we dry it and we cure it with the exact same method of what I described you already and again we focus a lot on plastic we do some work on glass but you know we think the future is probably in plastic and that's where we focus the way to get huge volume lower fries exactly brings down the price improves the flexibility things like that right and but but in a device there's a display there's a processor a pcb a battery in which areas is never centric so we're focusing on conductors right most of the customers who come to us will also bring other materials they might bring OLEDs they might bring chips and other things to bond together but for us we're focused on the conductors so that's for pcb yeah basically yeah now there's a lot of other applications where you have you already have a display or some assembly and you want to just add a conductive layer inkjet is really good for that it doesn't contact the surface in the material so if you're worried about dust or scratch or abrasion or something like that you can just pass the piece underneath and add a circuit to it so this machine is just this is for rd this would be considered a pilot scale machine now it's it's relatively small but every dimension can be scaled in terms of speed or width or something like that the heads as you can see there's three of them you simply just add them together right to make it a larger width so yeah this machine is for pilot scale but it proves the idea and all you need to just scale it is in width and then with this pilot machine you can do one layer but you have solutions to do several layers of more more complicated every year does it get more more complicated it does it does yeah so what tends to happen is as it gets more complicated and more layers you have more companies to get involved so more often in that situation we get involved with other companies who bring in additional equipment to handle additional layers so you have a partner over there doing another layer what did they do those so they actually they do multiple colors multiple layers of course this machine is is a sheet fed but similar idea right printed printed electronics and then and mainly flexible plastic and stuff like that so this is a big machine right there and uh how do you work with them how's the collaboration right so we've had a couple of customers who have come up recently who are interested in using their print tool as you can see it's much larger there's a lot more integration especially when it comes to sheet fed machines and so they're really good at that part of it and so what we're supplying with them is just the ink and then the curing it's inside and this machine not quite yet so it will be throughout the rest of this year and the next year as we do that project so what you're looking at here is just their printer but as you can imagine there's some space over here we add the machine curing tools and so on and so you have more and more customers buying the post forages and and do they all have it working how do you get them up to get stuff that works well so we have of course laboratory tools and we have the pilot tools and then we have much larger industrial tools that we haven't brought to the show but that are in install that customer sites and we've had actually quite a lot of hours on those tools running 23 hours a day things like that and then you you help them keep it running keep it working keep it better yeah we get the latest we tend to be software updates how does it work well so there's some maintenance and some some things that go on but for the most part for those larger installations we tend to be very close by actually we've grown quite a lot in the past couple of years we have offices around the world you know in china south korea stuff like that so we can be closer to those customers especially in display in other applications you know we have we have offices in germany and throughout the us as well so we try to be relatively close to the customer in those cases nice so this is going to be more and more stuff from no us and tricks in the future i'm looking forward to do some more videos yeah yeah sure