 Hello, and welcome again. Welcome. I'm Ed. And I'm Bruce. And this is the Brisonette show live from New York. Brisonette live from New York. And how is everybody? Did you have a great Memorial weekend? We did. Want to tell them what we did? We didn't do anything. We went to the beach one day, I guess. Yeah, we went to the Hamptons and we had a nice, gorgeous, gorgeous time. It's perfect, perfect beach weather. And just bumming around in the East Hampton shopping and browsing and hanging out. But we had a great time. So today's episode is sponsored by Arvix.com, web hosting, BlackbirdNaturals.com, anti-accident superfood fudge truffles, and ColumbusDanceCenter.com in Columbus, Ohio. You can also go to breadtv.com, that's B-R-E-D-T-V.com, and see the show notes section for today's show. And you'll find the links to all of our sponsors there. 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Well, maybe you'll have a comment or a question or whatever on what we're saying. So, what's going on? You got anything? Nothing. That was mouthful. It's a lot of different ways to communicate, but I guess you have to make it accessible for everyone. No, nothing. You're the one that wants to talk about a lot of different things, so we can start with whatever you want to talk about. Okay. Well, what I usually do is go through my blog and my Twitter. I have, I tweet a lot, and let me just bring up my blog here. And you can see all the things that I've been yapping about lately. The, let's see, we talked a lot about Facebook the other day and their privacy things. That's, okay, let me just skim through here real quick. We talked about free open source software. This is pretty technical, but, okay, related to that Facebook privacy thing, here's one thing that I wanted to bring up. I don't think I mentioned last time. I don't think so, but if you decide not to delete your Facebook account, at least do this. Be sure to do this. Whenever you are done with your Facebook, log out. Log out of your account so that your Facebook cookies don't follow you around to every website you visit. Maybe I did mention that. I'm not sure. But anyway, it's worth mentioning twice. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people, there was only like 30,000 people then. Well, that signed up to that to commit to deleting it. Yeah. Because they don't understand the implications really. What do you mean most people don't understand? Most people don't understand. Yeah, they don't understand that everything that their friends on Facebook have access to, these third-party applications, which basically is the same thing as saying websites in Russia you don't even know about have access to all that same information and data. Right. So it's really, you know, and people say, well, I don't have anything to hide, and if you don't have anything to hide, don't worry about it. But, you know, the thing is that, even if you don't say anything private or secret, just the simple fact of your friends, who are your friends? Who are your co-workers, your bosses, your employers, companies that maybe you've interviewed with or had some contact with, your, you know, boyfriends, girlfriends, exes, family members. Do you really want a list of all your family members out there for the whole entire world to see? I mean, that's just who you associate with is privacy right there. Well, it could be held against you. Yeah. I mean, and people say, if you go to Facebook.com, I can't see who your friends are. Well, you can actually. They're maybe not right on Facebook.com, but these back doors, like we talked about the, there's a site called theopenbook.org. Right. And it's just an example, but there are many ways that these, these Facebook applications can access this data through the back door. And that's kind of dangerous. So let's see here. Okay. So now this is an interesting topic I blogged about. And because this is huge, this is affecting everybody. Pretty much if you have email, you have this, you've experienced this. And I called it spam you didn't send. So, you know, you get spam and it's from a friend of yours or family member. And it's maybe just a link, you know, and you click it and it's some, you know, pharmaceutical company in Canada selling Viagra or some nonsense. And it's not really in Canada at all. Support. Totally. Yeah, it could be anything. And what that means is very simple. But people don't know what to do about it. If you have received spam from somebody and they didn't send it, that means that their computer or some computer, at least one of the computers that they use or have used, has been infected with a virus. So the virus gets on the computer and it records everything you type, even when you're not online, but it records everything you type. So naturally it is able to record your login ID for your email and your password for your email. So once it grabs your login ID, for example, if you have Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Hotmail, whatever, even your online banking, I mean it can get, it captures everything you type. So if you have a, say you have a Yahoo Mail account or something or Gmail, it grabs your ID and your password as you type it. Now it sends it to the bad guys. So they now have your login ID and password. So what do they do? They send it out to, basically it's like... Third parties that buy their... No, no, no, no. What they do is they send it out to a virus that's on a network of other people's computers. So those computers are acting like little bots, like little robots. They call them spam bots. And it might be your computer, it might be a different computer. Like for example, your friend might have a virus that grabbed his login ID and password. Then it sends it to the bad guy. The bad guy then sends it to the virus that's on your computer that you didn't even know you had so that at night when you're sleeping and the screensaver comes on, your computer is now using that guy's login ID and password to send spam out from your computer. So it's sending it from a different account. One person's email account and sending it from another person's physical computer and IP address. It makes it very, very, very difficult for these companies to block all this spam because it's just done by these robots, drones of computers running viruses, actively running viruses. Most of them running Windows, although also viruses are on Mac as well. So the bottom line is this, if anybody tells you that you sent spam and you know you didn't send it, then your computer is infected with a virus. So what you must do is disinfect all the computers that you use. You can do it yourself or if it's a company computer, tell the IT department, tell the computer department at your office that you suspect your computer has a virus and they'll clean it for you but on your own personal computers, the easiest way is to go to malwarebytes.org. It's called Malwarebytes and it's spelled M-A-L-W-A-R-E-B-Y-T-E-S.org. All you need is the free program. Just click on download the free program and this is for Windows. Then when you download the program, you'll run the updates to update the latest signature files and then you click scan and do a full system scan and if you have a virus, it'll probably find it and it will eliminate it. So that's the first thing you have to do is make sure that you eliminate the virus from all your computers. Then the second thing you do is you have to change all your passwords. Change your email password, change your Facebook password, change your online banking password, any kind of password that has any significance at all, you go in and change your passwords to something completely new you haven't used before. Now, obviously, if this email came from a friend's computer, then you'd give them this advice and that's what they need to do. They need to disinfect their computer and they need to change their passwords. So anyway, but it's like a plague. It's running rampant. Lately a lot, yeah. I've had at least three or four in the last month. People, I immediately tell them, you know, you've got some kind of Trojan or virus or something and they just kind of like ignore me. They don't really care. So I'm just like, whatever. You think if you say you have a Trojan, they're going to say, oh no, I use, what is it, Durex? Lifestyles. Durex and lifestyles. No, but they don't know what that is. I mean, to tell them they have a virus. Well, besides that, they don't know what to do about it. So this is what you do about it. The thing that is also is that people associate viruses with something attacking me. Like it's attacking me, which this is kind of an innocuous kind of virus, which it's still attacking me, but I don't even know it. It happens, you know, overnight. Well, most of the viruses that are going around today in 2010 are not like, see, like in the old days, in the old old days of computers, a virus would do something terrible to you. It would go in and wipe out all your data, make your computer unusable, and it was just for kicks and jollies of some 14-year-old who wrote it. Right. And it wasn't really, it was just, you know, it was like, let's see what we can make it do. But now it's very, very sophisticated. I mean, it's like the difference between a teenager, you know, knocking down mailboxes and like organized crime, you know, international organized crime. This is a very, very organized, sophisticated thing. So now the viruses, I mean, the people who create the viruses have figured out that it's much more effective to put a virus on your computer that is just hidden in there. It's just buried deep down inside and it acts almost like a screensaver. It only runs when you're not using the computer. Or, you know, it'll run when you're typing and it'll capture what you type and things like that. But as far as sending spam, it'll do it overnight. So when you're sleeping, the computer's on, or maybe even when you're using it in the middle of the day, 24 hours a day, it can just wake up and send spam. So when you're not using it, it's doing their dirty work. And you never know. See, this is perfect for them, because if you never know you have a virus, yeah, it's very stealthy. If you don't know you have a virus on your computer, then your computer is now a slave drone for the bad guys. So they have this network of millions and millions and millions and millions of computers at their disposal. They can push a button. And in fact, they do things like this. Like if they want to, you know, I mean, God knows, for political or whatever reasons they can, or business reasons, they can attack a certain website and do, they call it denial of service attack. What all it means is, if I was a bad guy and I had all these drones out there, I could basically push a button and have one million computers all try and access one website at the same time and have them all go to CNN.com or something. And it could, if you have too many requests for the same website at the same time, that's called a denial of service attack, it can actually bring the site down in effect because nobody can get the page to load because there's too many people trying to get it to load at the same moment. You see what I'm saying? So they can use these networks of millions of computers for all sorts of illicit things. Mostly what it's used for is what pays cash. And that's spam, believe it or not. Apparently there are people who actually buy things from spam, and it's just, I don't know what that says about humanity, but people, there's a sucker born every day, I guess. So, otherwise it wouldn't be spam. Well, they're legitimate products, so I'm not surprised that they would buy them. It's just that the means of them getting the information about buying it is not legitimate. And you're assuming they're legitimate, they're probably not legitimate products, but maybe they are, they could be, you never know. But the thing is that spam is just, you know, obviously if nobody bought it, there wouldn't be spam. Actually the University of Southern California, I think it was in San Diego or somewhere, I remember reading, did a study where they, this real scientific study about the spam bot networks and stuff, and they actually created, I forget how they did it, but somehow they kind of infiltrated the spam bot network and they actually created their own spam, and they sent this spam out there with a link to a website that had some sort of a product and they actually, they didn't actually sell anything to anybody, so it wasn't causing harm, per se, to anyone, because it was a scientific study. But they actually measured how many people who received, like they hijacked the spam bot network and they actually used it to send spam, but it was their own spam, and it took them to a website to purchase a product, and then they measured how many people went to the buy now button, they didn't actually collect credit card information or anything, but they measured how many people would have bought it, and it was phenomenal how much money, I mean, it's exponential because it just goes, a million computers sending this stuff, sooner or later, if 0.001% of the people buy it, that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. Yeah, it's like something like, I think it was, I'm making this up, but if I recall, it was something like one infected computer that was infected with a virus would produce $3,000 worth of revenue per month or something like that. So that's why it's worth it for them to create these viruses. Absolutely. They're not just nasty teenagers, you know, bored or something, there's real money there. So anyway, so that's the deal. If that happens, you know, if it happens to a friend or you, just remember, go to malwarebytes.org, download the free program, update it, run the scan, disinfect your computer and all the computers that you use, because remember, it could be your mother-in-law's computer when you were over there for dinner, it could be anybody's computer wherever you logged on. Even if you just logged on once to that computer, you know, that's how it can grab your password. So all the computers you touch make sure that you disinfect them. If I'm using Windows, I actually run a virus scan every single time I use it, right before I use it, because Windows is so completely vulnerable to viruses. Why bother? Well, I do, because, no, I mean, I just installed a couple of weeks ago, I installed a brand new, fresh install of Windows and it had a virus within just minutes of installing it. So that definitely happens. But anyway, disinfect it and then change all your passwords. You know, if you have to use Windows or Mac, that's the advice. The best thing is Ubuntu Linux, but we'll talk about that another time. So anyway, let's see what other topics have I got here that I've been blogging about? Android, just having issues with Android podcast playback. I blogged about that because when you're using, I don't know, there's this program called Google Listen on the Android phones and there's another one called Stitcher and they have issues. Like Google Listen just seems buggy and confusing, really confusing to use. Stitcher is better, but it doesn't work if there's an interruption in the stream. Like if you lose your signal for a minute, it just Yeah, it just has to start all over. Wow, I have an iPhone and it's not much better at all. No, no, it's not better at all. But actually the best way I've figured out so far to listen to podcasts on an Android phone, by the way, is to listen to Android phone, which is huge. Android is number two already in smartphone sales soon to surpass Blackberry and it will be number one, so this is probably relevant to a lot of people. If you ever listen to podcasts on your Android phone, so far this is the best way I've figured out how to do it. They promise there are going to be some improvements in these programs like Stitcher and Google Listen, but in the meantime, what I've found is that you can find the link on the website at www.twit.tv and I do the link for download this mp3 or whatever. So I download it, either the audio or the video, just download it from the browser and on Android, unlike iPhone, you can just download things and when you download the mp3, it's now like it's in your what they call music player or if it's a video, it's in your gallery. So it's almost like on an iPhone mp3, it's already on your iPod. Which doesn't work that way on iPhone, but on this it does. Oh yeah, it does podcasts? Like directly from iTunes? No, that's different, it has to come through iTunes. I'm talking about you go to a website. If I go to a website, just any old website and download an mp3 file, it's now in my player. If you go to our show, you can download it directly from our website. Anyway, when you download the mp3 directly, it's in my music player and what's great about that is it plays and you can what do you call it, scrolling forward and backwards and you missed a part, you got a phone call, you can jump back and so forth. Well, the other thing is wherever it's at when it's playing, you can pause it, pick it up, resume it later. Even while it's playing, if you reboot the phone, you go back into the music player and it remembers exactly where you left off, which the other ones don't do that. Which I don't understand why. I mean, I guess I do because the developer from Stitcher contacted me and he explained to me a lot of the technical reasons why, which is over our heads. But anyway, they're working on a better version. I guess it's a limitation of the operating system, but the music player is really a brilliant way to do it. If you go to the website of the podcast, download the mp3 or the video and just listen to it in the music player, it works great. Plus, it's completely offline. So you can download it and then get on the airplane or the subway where there's no signal and you can still listen to it flawlessly even after a reboot it remembers where you were and stuff like that. So that's one of the things I was blogging about. Well, I'm very interested in like natural foods and health products and things like that and there's this program that CNN is sponsoring with. It's coming in June 2nd at 8pm eastern time and it's basically telling, they have a list, they call it a dirty dozen produce that carries like 60 something pesticides, residues so basically every time you buy that we're talking about conventional fruits and vegetables and they have like a list of a dozen that you want to basically strictly stay away from and go for the organic and so I wanted to just share that list because I think that you know, it's important for you to know at least when you, you know, what products you should be buying and not and the list is basically like really soft fruits and soft skin fruits and vegetables which is pretty common knowledge but this is like the list of the dirty dozen they call it and it's celery, peaches strawberries, apples domestic blueberries nectarines sweet bell peppers spinach kale and collard greens I guess it's part of one and then cherries, potatoes imported grapes and lettuce which I'm sure that most people eat at least half of those products on a regular basis so we should all be more aware of when we go to buy these conventional fruits and vegetables that we're getting so many toxins so what are you saying we shouldn't eat those or what I don't get it you should buy the organic version of those fruits and vegetables the ones that I didn't mention are not, they might have pesticides but they're more they're able to because they have thicker skins and things like that, they're able to protect the inner part of the fruit or vegetable whatever that may be from the pesticide itself so when you eat it, you're not eating the pesticide but these things like strawberries, you're eating the skin so you're eating the pesticide everything these fruits are the ones specifically that are most vulnerable to the pesticides they have the highest amount of pesticides and we're talking about 63 different kinds in one fruit or vegetable it's just like baffling to think that 63 so what are you supposed to do with this news you're supposed to buy the organic version but if you're not buying the organic version then what is there any way to wash it enough to get all that off you're just saying you shouldn't ever buy those unless you're buying farmers market grade most conventional which is what you find in your grocery store that is all high-pressure washed so if the high-pressure wash will not get the pesticide there's nothing almost nothing you can do at home to get the pesticide out so no there's not much you can do except go for the organic you mean it's high-pressure washed before it goes to the store so that's good because that gets out the dirt and it might rub away some of the water soluble pesticides so did this study measure this before or after they washed it after so they're saying after the high-pressure wash it still had all these pesticides on that's right so what's the conclusion the bottom line is you shouldn't ever buy any of these fruits unless they're organic especially this list of top 12 that's why they've condensed it down to these are the worst offenders so you want to stay away from them especially in a restaurant you go somewhere for dessert or whatever and you're having a nice dream with strawberries what are the chances that the restaurant is buying all organic produce well it's like I get into the habit of asking especially if I know the owner or know who the owner is you can ask the staff but most people don't know they don't really care buying all organic on all of these things yeah I buy pretty much everything organic so I don't really pay attention is there anything that you buy that's not organic yeah I get like the aloe vera that I buy is not organic and the pineapple it's not always organic avocados I don't always buy them I mean there's certain foods depending on what's available and ripe and ready but for the most part I stick to lettuce 90% organic oh yeah lettuce you have to buy and you try and stick with the real green lettuce how much more does organic usually the organic version cost than the non-organic well I guess it depends what geographic area you're at but I would probably guess like 25% but you're getting like 25% more but you're getting twice as many nutrients and you're actually getting real nutrients so you're not going to be hungry you know when you're eating some of these fruits and vegetables like lettuce hybrid lettuce or whatever I mean there's hardly any nutrients on there so it's like filler basically so you're not getting much of nutrients so you'll be hungry a lot quicker I mean everyone always talks about the value the difference in price but what do you want cancer and then have to pay expensive healthcare bills later on in life or do you want to spend a little more now and get the proper nourishment that your body needs and the biggest thing is for children their brains are very susceptible to these pesticides and children are the ones that stand to lose the most as far as getting these pesticides out 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wanted to either bought or created their own application I think in most cases they just bought the application and maybe modified it or whatever but there's now an official Twitter application for Android and one of the coolest features about it was that it can use the Android operating system to sync like the Facebook application will sync your contacts with your Facebook contacts and it'll pull in information like email address and photos and things from Facebook and put it right into your contact address book well the idea behind this official Twitter application for Android was that it optionally will do the same thing so when you set it up if you put the check mark in there and you say sync my Twitter the people I follow on Twitter with my contacts then it's the idea is it's going to pull information in from Twitter and put it into your contacts which sounds like a good idea on paper but it's probably not usually a good idea unless you only follow a few people because I don't know I have like 10,800 followers or something like some crazy number on Twitter and I checked that and I couldn't figure out what was wrong with my phone it was syncing it looks like a recycle symbol that circular arrow thing was running continuously like always every time I look at my phone like 24 hours a day it's always syncing which slows everything down when it's syncing everything comes it was going as slow as molasses it was continuously syncing and I finally figured out why it was trying to sync 10,800 people with my contact address book it would never finish it would just go and go the solution is don't sync it I don't even like the official Twitter application I'm not using it I use Seismic or Seismic or something like that well you have an iPhone and that's completely different those are different I know what I'm saying what I'm saying is that the official Twitter application for the iPhone is not going to be the same as the Twitter application for Android but what I'm saying is that the Seismic for the iPhone is completely different than the Seismic for Android they're different so they have different applications even if they have the same name they're not the same they're different versions that one only works for Facebook, Twitter and Ping.fm the Seismic well it's the only three which is perfect because I use all three so on Android I use the ones I like most are Twitdroid and Twica and I also use well and Seismic, those are the three but I only use Seismic for Twitter I don't use it for anything else so I have Twitdroid, Twica and Seismic I also have the official Twitter application but I'm really not crazy about it it seems really official price to me but anyway if you do use the official Twitter application on Android don't set it to sync don't set it to sync unless you have very few people that you follow on Twitter if you only follow your friends on Twitter most people don't use Twitter that way it's bizarre but some people use Twitter most people use Twitter for the way it was designed to be used for broadcasting to everyone so they don't friend their friends there only so Twitter is primarily for broadcasting just to anyone and everyone it's not for just connecting to your friends and Facebook was the opposite it was just for connecting to your friends but many people use Facebook for broadcasting to everybody I use Facebook like Twitter I friend absolutely anyone and everyone I friend everyone and I just spew the same exact things when I tweet something I use Ping.fm and I send it to Facebook the same thing I send to Twitter and to Buzz and to every other every other network out there so anyway let's see what other topics well there's a now that we're headed into the summer of 2010 and everyone wants to go to the beach there's going to be outdoors a lot you know people are always asking me because I never use sunscreen I never have and I don't like it I don't like those minerals on my skin and I don't like the smell and I think it's just bad for you all the way around but interesting well there's this organization let's see it's called the environmental working group they're a non-profit and they do all kinds of research and about health related topics and how to consumers basically so basically they say hats, clothing and basically sitting in the shade are still the best way to protect yourself from the sun and the important thing to know is that only 8% of sunscreens are recommended by this group which amounts to about 30 different sunscreens from like 300 and something 300 different types of sunscreens out in the market and it just goes to prove that you know everyone's putting these sunscreens on and they're not really getting the benefit that the companies that are making these sunscreens are touting and it's amazing because one of these things it says in everyday practice a product labeled SPF 100 which I don't think there is anything out of the market but maybe there is it performs like an SPF 3.2 did you get that so they're advertising it's not regulated they're just making up numbers it could be SPF 5,000 just whatever number you want if it's SPF 30 the rating equates to a really a 2.3 sun protection factor so what you're getting is not really across the board across the board they only recommend 8% of the sunscreens in the market right now and then there's people that are against the minerals so they buy the non-mineral which this particular group doesn't recommend the non-minerals because they have what they call like a hormone activating substances and now I think a lot of these companies are putting there was some study out that said that vitamin A was really good to put in the SPF creams which new studies are coming out that it increases your risk of cancer by adding by this vitamin A that's added to the SPF so take a look at your SPFs and you might want to go to this viral mental working group it's ewg.org they have an actual sunscreen guide so they have all the different brands you can put in the brands that you have and you can see why they would recommend it or not and this is a non-profit organization and they're out looking for our best interest so it's valuable information I think you should check it out I don't know, years ago I remember reading something in consumer reports what was the highest highest SPF was 20 or something like that at some point at that time maybe, yeah what was it, 10 or 20? some number, I forgot I think maybe it was 10 or something like that and I can't remember, but anyway I remember they said that any SPF factor higher than 10 or 20, whatever it was there was no such thing higher than that, they were just actually adding other chemicals chemicals that may cause cancer that they add to the thing and then they just arbitrarily say oh that's SPF 12 now and 14 I remember that, that was like maybe 10 or 15 years ago they were talking about that I've always been very skeptical about SPF numbers it still holds true pretty much it's just that now people consumers are really starting to become very very savvy about all this and with the internet now you can't hide this stuff it's just a matter of being in the know and but how is the consumer supposed to know that adding vitamin A, which sounds good ok vitamin, how bad can that be that that actually is bad, that actually causes cancer I mean how you have to do a lot of homework yeah, I don't know really I mean I don't know what to tell you about that most people are not that interested in it but if they hear a little excerpt from someone like me they might think about it a little more and make some gradual changes for the better personally what I do is I just I minimize my exposure to the sun I don't put anything on because I don't like I don't like any sticky creams of any kind anyway so if I go to the beach I take a big umbrella and I stay under the big umbrella I get enough sun with just the indirect exposure moving around that is more than enough because you only need like 15 minutes a day to have the vitamin D that you need and that's enough so if I stay basically if I'm only in the sun during the walking period, the moving around and when I'm sitting I'm in the shade I figure that's enough sun protection for me well there's die hard people and the other side of that is that they go into this false sense of security that they have this high SPF so they end up staying out in the sun longer and most people don't even use it as they ask you to do it but I don't recommend it at all that's exactly what Mimi was saying the other day when we were going to the beach I said well there's no way I cannot just lay on the beach for 6 hours or 8 hours because I know some people like to do that but just lather on that SPF 50 and I'm like oh no no no no no because even if I did that it's not good for you and that stuff is bad for you I know and if you miss one little spot that's all it takes that spot is going to be like blistered and burned and oh no no no I'd much rather just sit under a big umbrella on a cool drink our friends in Miami Samwell and Dieter Samwell is a very very very dark skin and Dieter is like white pale pale and Dieter is always in the shade always in the shade that's the thing if you have really really really fair skin and you just cannot stand exposure to the sun they can still hang out by the pool and on the beach but they just have to be under the umbrella in the shade and there's nothing much more pleasant I like being in the direct sun a little bit walking around playing in the water but when I'm just laying there I'd much rather be in the shade well that's the only way that I can get my mom or my sister to go to the beach is I have to tell them I'll get you a nice comfortable chair and a big umbrella and just sit right there and hang out while I'm in the sun everybody used to think the sun was so healthy but we're finding that it's like everything in a little bit in moderation it's healthy but anything more than that is not healthy it's actually you do need it there's a high high rate of vitamin D deficiency in this country and in the world actually so it's important to get some type of sunlight 15 minutes though that's all you really need any more than 15 minutes it's a recreational thing and people work out there so it's it's important to understand these things yeah that's cool so let's see I was just going to go through my twitter thing you know this was this video actually you turned me on to this video I'm sure everybody's heard of TED Talks there it's ted.org there was a video let me open it up that you actually sent to me is a TED Talk by Joanna Blakely and it's called Lessons from Fashions Free Culture and I love this video I didn't personally know what it was about because I'm not really into fashion necessarily but it's fantastic if you get a chance go to ted.org and just you know do a search for free culture you'll probably find it if you don't know how to spell Joanna Blakely just go to redtv.org I'll put my saying redtv.com and we'll put a link on there but anyway she does this fantastic talk about the fashion industry and also many many other industries she talks about a bunch of different industries and how they compare when it comes to what we call free culture which means the fashion industry it's absolutely okay and legal for them to copy each other so if you're a top fashion designer you can just go out and look at all the other fashions and you can absolutely pick and choose and take whatever you want from whatever you want and do your own remix and put your name on it and now it's yours they don't have patent protection almost none at all they have no copyright protection the only thing they have is trademark protection which so that you can trademark your name but literally can go and take all the designs they can take an exact replica of somebody else's design and put Christian Dior name on it and now it's Christian Dior the trademark is theirs but the actual styles and the ideas and the designs and the creativity of it is absolutely freely copied and it's always been that way in that industry that's why they have like H&M old Navy and stuff they pretty much copy Gap and all these other designers and make it cheap but the thing the gist of this talk is about how that actually benefits the entire industry the culture of freely copying each other actually increases the creativity and it increases the profits so anyway you gotta watch this video I was interested in the graphs she puts out a graph of the different types of industries whether it's the movie industry fashion don't give it away that's the punchline but I want you to watch the video because she does a much better job than we could of explaining it but just go to ted. is it ted.org ted.com ted.com and look for Joanna Blakely lessons from fashion's free culture or just go to breadtv.com and we'll have a link to it but it's a fantastic little video it's only like 15 minutes long but it's brilliant and it's a lot of the same stuff you've been talking about for years about all this it's just a different twist because you're looking at it from a different industry which we're not it's a very important connection exactly also I wanted to mention this I'll take a moment just to mention this that we are set up now for our little SkyPasaurus system here we can bring up someone on Skype full screen right here behind us this could be you your name here you can call us during the live show our Skype name is B-R-E-D-C-H-A-T and actually like we can do a call in kind of a thing but otherwise you can actually be a guest co-host with us on an episode you know be a guest co-host for a day and if you're interested in doing that please you know give us a call you don't have to do what I'm trying to say is if you want to call in obviously you have to do it live when we're taping but if you want to be a guest co-host for a day let us 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okay so your mother's not necessarily your mother's your father's mother's mother's whatever every human being alive if you trace back their family tree far enough they all go back to one woman one mother of all human beings alive today of every race, every religion every nationality in the whole entire planet has one ancestral farthest back mother okay and they know that she's a little black woman about this thought right from and she was in Africa so the point of this is I mean we've known this for a while actually if you're up on you know if you watch the Discovery Channel and History Channel all that stuff you know this stuff but as long as you don't doubt you know the genetic science of today then you believe that but all of a sudden this morning I don't know why I was in the shower and it just hit me I was like wow the irony of this to think this okay that Hitler's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother was a little black lady in Africa and every Jew every Jew alive on the planet then and today their mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother was a little black lady in Africa and every human being of every race and every religion whether they're religious fanatics of any religion or racists of any race whatever every human being alive on the planet goes back to the same mother ultimately that's hard to believe it's mind boggling I think most people just kind of process that and don't really believe it or I don't understand because they don't maybe it's like you know the distance to the farthest star like whatever billions and billions and billions and it was so long ago it does have that have to do anything with me but well we're all cousins we're all related we're all one we're not just family in the whatever what am I trying to say like poetic sense we're family in the literal sense in the absolutely literal sense we're all cousins we're all sleeping with our cousins in a sense we're all related literally and that is mind boggling to me because you know it's just like anything to do with religious extremism or anything to do with racism it just makes it totally laughable and I think this was the thought that came to me is what must racists think about science this is really going against their beliefs well I think that's why people don't initially grasp that idea it's a hard one to grasp to me it's easy to grasp it just makes perfect sense and it's like duh of course it's like no wonder we're all the same if you travel around the world and you see all the different cultures we have so much more in common than we have different it absolutely makes sense to me but most people they only go by the wrapping is it a bright shiny object or is it whatever they just go by the outside and the weird little idiosyncrasies what color is their hair it's just so superficial but that's how I guess maybe that's part of human nature who knows well anyway we better wrap it up because we're out of time definitely send 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