 Welkom back and we're still talking about if Kenya, ingeza kwa na prezumunye ako below 35 years, what are some of the different things in the kwa, and I'd like us to go back to what we were talking about. For example, I remember in the previous session, there's one who mentioned President Jomal Kenyatta brought out a lot of good things that were actually being taken over by other presidents. He also added those Moa Kibaki. He was very instrumental as well in terms of leadership and borrowing from a young leader perspective. What are some of the good memories you have of our presidents in regards to even wild presidents day? Thank you so much. When Kenya got the independence, Jomal Kenyatta was very specific on what he needed in Kenya because he said that our enemies were poverty, ignorance and disease. And from the very beginning you could see it in every project that he launched, everything he did. But later of course we know there will be some divisive politics, they will divide with Oginga Odinga and of course then Jomal Kenyatta would later pass on. Then we had President Moa come in. When you go down in history you look at the earlier days of Moa and Kenya did very well. We had a lot of around 1970 we had the kofi boom and our economy was doing perfectly well. Of course later in around 1990 there were the multi-particles and everything and our economy was on the downturn but later we will have Kibaki and when Kibaki came in, Kibaki did a lot of economic reforms. He introduced the free primary education that we are enjoying till now and of course I know Kenyans are very much appreciative of that. When Kibaki left power he left our debt at 1.8 trillion. Of course we had the slightly below. Yeah slightly below. When Huru Kenyatta came in and William Ruto they took that debt from 1.8 trillion to about 8.4 trillion and that is the current situation that we are in. So we give Kibaki a lot of credits for how he rein our economy and of course we we could criticize the former government for just trying to mess around the economy especially on the issue of the debt and I think that is something that the current president William Ruto is trying to solve because just the other day they were introducing the budget policy statement in parliament and you can see that he is trying to reduce our deficit from about 900 billion to around 600 billion so the 300 billion there I think he is doing well currently. All right yeah good sentiments right there. Yes activists. So first I want to appreciate this the late president Muay Kibaki because when he came to power in 2002 the Kenyan GDP was a let me say below one one percent but he increased it to around eight around eight percent so he really performed is the one that introduced these these are constituency development funds it has really helped the it has really helped the citizens it has really helped students for example a good example is myself here when I went to high school my parents could not afford that school fees so nili kwa na apply is basa Riza MPs nandiyo zili kwa zinan li piya school fees so I really appreciate him for the good work he did to this nation and I can't say that the remaining presidents did not perform but there's something they did not do for this nation to remain stable. All right yeah. All right uh let's switch gears I love the fact that this guy and Afanya TikTok like we really can relate to him in so many avenues I remember Juzya mekutana na netwadze uu tiktoka Prisila do you feel like in a letey of vibrancy and currency of like inclusivity of young people especially when it comes to young people who are included in matters leadership as well even you who is still our campus as a leader do you see yourself even in the near future holding such positions due to like we have people like Zakadja you mentioned as well. Thank you so much and uh just before I get to that allow me just correct something but activists said something about the GDP being 1% and again 8% I think it's not right to say that we cannot say that the GDP is 1% I think it was the economic growth he came in when it was around 1.6% then when it was leaving it was around 8% when he was leaving so the growth was a little bit higher uh back to what Sakuwa has asked about the vibrancy of the leadership I think Zakadja is doing pretty well currently because he is so much famous with the youth and the same we can credit to people like Babu and of course recently we had the CS David Ossian he always has some Walimo Chronicles on Facebook right and people are able to relate with him and he makes fun and people are able to understand what the government is doing and I think Zakadja is doing well when he got to TikTok I think he got around more than 300k followers just in a day right so I think and there is an advice to many politicians out there get into the spaces where the youth are and get to talk to them get to relate with them yeah I'd like to also hear your feedback on about Toto ame kwa kipata contravashu remarks Juzyl ko engaged was he proposed to ame engaged I don't know which one happened and then ah kola kula kula mitu kwa say ma aata angelia kido ga angelia she was too serious but then they're like live her alone she's just young ame kujitu into leadership Juzy do you feel like even young people sometimes when you're on aspire kwa get into these positions they're not even prepared for some of the things that they will meet in the ...agama baya kaya yaon uroba kwa, yaon baya kwa mprili nisha. Kwa kama entia mpเดchani, uroba kwa kutupireti. Yaon baya kwa mpoi kwa mpoi kwa hokunaizubu uroba... ...adade krubu hama afawe vahu na, hama yao yaon... ...uroba kwa kapa na mprili nisha. I believe that she is one of the youngest women in this nation. Yes, she is. So when she got into power, she was young and she was not informed of what happens in that leadership position. She did not have any experience. But at least she is trying to inspire more Kenyans, more young people that they can also lead her together with the MP for MIAS, Peter Salazar. These people are really trying to come up with, they are really trying to hold the hands of the young Kenyans. Ana Peter Salazar is always with the youth, he is promoting football clubs in MIAS. Anafanya is taking children to school, same as to the one you mentioned, Sakaja. I saw the other day Sakaja sitting with a Swiss child in his office. I think he is doing pretty well. The other day he was in Busea and Lleona. There was a child that was unable to join the secondary school. He took him since he had passed well his exams. So these young Kenyans are really working. We as young Kenyans who are still the youth, we need to come up like them. We should be empowered by what they are doing. Now let's get back to you for where you come from. You said you are an activist and I would like you to share what you talk about a lot in your activism work. What are some of the things you talk about before we get ahead? In my activism, I am a very vocal and vibrant person but you cannot just know because I am always very polite. I am very polite, but my deeds are always very vocal. So what are you vocal about? Also in school I am the University of Nairobi and I am still in secondary school. I am advocating for the rights of comrades. I am an advocate for young people. So when I see that a person is being oppressed, I don't keep quiet. And that's why I like talking. In fact, in Afikanga at some point I say it is better I die but I must fight for the rights of this person. And I am being empowered by those activists that fought for the rights of people such as Patrice Lumumba. You see Malema is performing well in South Africa. Those are the people I follow. In fact, when you visit my TikTok account, I have a TikTok account with 14,000 followers. I normally post there those people, the likes of Babu Owenu. When it comes to fighting for the rights of those people who are oppressed up of snanga jokes. Snanga jokes can be said. But do you see yourself in Galva in future? You know, you start like that. For me, I believe that leadership comes from God. I don't sell the false promises to people. And that's the challenge you are having as Kenyans. Kenyans need to be told what they want to hear and not what it is right for them. So I don't go to people telling them that I will do this. I cannot promise a cow by the time I can only offer a chicken. So that's the challenge with Kenyans. I believe that when we change the way of politics, I can be one of the best leaders. Because I speak the truth, I don't promise what I cannot give. I only promise what is in my capacity. So when we change our ways of politics towards manifesto based politics, then I can be one of the best leaders. But if you can learn, you can say, I won't go. But I will give you this, I will give you job. I will give you stock, but yeah. Then I see something not right. I wanted to actually know if you are to be the president of this country tomorrow, what are some of the things that you would change that have been there for a very long time from a young people's perspective? Of course, the question is at least 35 years. Let's imagine you're in that age bracket and you want to be the president. What are you changing first in the country? Like we can hear Papi Metoka. When I'm given the opportunity to be the president of this country, the first thing I will do is to do away with the... You know, in this Kenya, young people have been neglected. Wa maachile wa iwiwa. So they don't have space and the main thing that leads into this is unemployment. You see, we have very many unemployed youths and they are being taken advantage of. Tsunana ata monasasa kitambia. Inumali use this vijana as goons. So I will really do something to ensure that these people are employed, the young people who are going to school. I will really empower the youths. This money, there is a lot of money just circulating in the government. I cannot keep on watching someone earning 2 million, 4 million in a month and escape paying tax. And you get a young person who is struggling to stand up to get a tax. We want a tax, we want a tax. We want to escape taxes. I would really advocate for the young people to have voices and to take these leadership positions. You know, I use my ministry. The party of vijana have vijana dogo. So that they also put there young people. Got you. I love your passion. Yes, Peter. As we are preparing ourselves, and I love the fact both of you have a leadership position at your universities, if you guys were to actually take over and be leaders in this country tomorrow, what are some of the positive reforms that you guys are going to embrace? Thank you so much, Brian. If I was supposed to be president, then I would not only be a youth president, but I will be a president of the country. Let me take you back to the 2004 Democratic National Convention at the United States of America. And Obama is there vying for senator in Illinois and he's delivering a speech. And that speech is known as the speech that made Obama president. And as part of the speech, you hear Obama saying that we are not a black America or a white America or a Latin America. We are the United States of America. So it's not just about being youth or being a lady or being old, it's about being a Kenyan. And I think we need to get that very, very clear. When you talk about the president being 35 years or below, we need to look it in terms of experience and in terms of the nationhood. So I think the first thing that I would love to actually address is the kind of divisiveness that is currently in our country where some people feel that they are part of government, they are not part of government, they are Luya, they are Kalinjin. We need to be Kenya. And I think that is what the current government is not getting right, especially because of the sentiments that you had yesterday. So I think the first thing is to unite the country. We need to unite this country. Of course the second thing that would help the youth is the government internship programs that the government has been talking about but I think there is a problem with the implementation because you get that some interns are not being paid and of course there is also lack of fairness in giving the internships. I think we need to get somewhere as a country where we have graduates getting out of the university, they get absorbed perhaps not on a full employment but let's say a one-year internship program. The same way we see the medicine students. So I think that is something that I would love to do. Okay. Alright, on the other side, on the flip side as well, we talk about mentorship and like you said, experience is the best teacher and what actually disqualifies a lot of young people from a lot of opportunities because they're looking for someone who has five years experience duly graduate which year but still you can't still fall into that age bracket or those qualifications as well. When it comes to mentorship, you could prepare young people to get to this leadership spot. Do you feel like we have enough forums in our country that nurture talent, nurture leadership skills as compared to like even outside countries? Of course, a kid will grow up in a president's family, of course they'll end up automatically becoming a deputy president or whatever. Even when you look at the history of the previous leadership systems in the world, it has always been like it's inherited, it goes from father to son to mother, same to wealth, father inherited, grand children, etc. Thank you so much, Bran, for that question. I'm an avid reader of the Obama books and again I would like to refer to what he said sometimes back and he says no one cares about how you are upbringing was. No one cares where you come from and no one cares what you've gone through or who are your parents or such. So I think one of the things that our youth should be able to know is that nobody is going to give you nobody is going to serve you food. You have to work to get there. Our government is doing well in trying to create opportunities for the youth. Of course we know that there are some areas that they need to do better but I think one responsibility that the youths have have been able to deal with the students there at the university and at times you get a company requesting CVS and perhaps some documents so that they can be employed or so and at times the qualities of the CVS that you get from students are worrying and I think those are some of the things we need to address. This world is not going to bend because of who you are. You need to make sure that you prepare yourself to that level. So there are places where our government can do better but there are some places where they are doing well and I think our students they need just to make sure that they prepare themselves well. I think we'll have to end it there. So your final remarks where people can find you as well as you exit. Thank you so much. Like I said my name is Peter Nguka. I'm currently the main campus governor at University of Nairobi. First of all to my comrades watching me here today. Let me say thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to serve you. I'll be exiting in one month and I'm really very much appreciative for the opportunity. To the next governor who is coming on board make sure that you do your best serve the comrades. Make sure the comrades interest is fast and continue with what we had started. Thank you. Right activist. Thank you for this moment again. I really appreciate for but before I do that allow me to argue allow me to disagree with my brother Nguka. In less than a minute please. My brother Nguka is saying that we need to look at this experience. You know we are misusing we are misusing this proverb in Asema that you must have an experience. No. Because you see for me to be employed in an industry even in this KBC. What do they need? They need an experience. A three-year experience. Where will I get this experience and since there is no one willing to employ me in a party experience we need to work on that. Okay. And then finally you can find me in all social media platforms I'm in Facebook, Tik Tok you can just type the word activist Otiyano I'm a well-known person there at Naza Patana and for the comrades of the University of Nairobi I'm sincerely I'm sincerely the incoming the incoming governor of the University of Nairobi me in campus and I want to promise you that when I will succeed Nguka, the governor the current governor I want to appreciate you for what you have done and I can't really judge kama wu me performa ma not but for me I'm determined I'm coming there for comrades and I'm coming to work with the comrades Okay. Ntaka sirikali kotu ya comrade Dadotaki mambu ningi Ima mba ya comrade kwenama Ima mba ya comrade I've heard that sayi with a missing mark you cannot continue the next semester Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Gentlemen, thank you so much for your time. Let me just sample quick your feedback. On Facebook it Kitchenia bihila rike Good morning. I think that's it regarding to our question Doorkas Marshall saying good morning Good morning to you. Matou kikuyu gatuunha You're saying watching Thank you We have Cinta you are saying good morning Amazing discussion Indeed, what will happen? There will be changes Surely tuning from Naivasha and shout out to you Cinta and then lastly we have Emma Jimms when I say my Kenyans youth fresh from colleges uza mwazilewaru kwa hajti mozhikia uzayi ni, kwa hajti skillunia, kwa hающi huli na uza na hendinia kwa hendinia. Wah! Okay. Ntyeh to ni kufu ya wajibu kwa mwa. Thank you so much. Kupu na waji wajibu na wajibu na wajibu na wajibu na wajibu na ntiya. Iziha tomo na uza na hendinia kwa wajibu ntiya. My name is Brian Sakawa. Have a fantastic Monday.