 Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop. You guys are amazing patient unscripted and unrefined, but we're here and This Debbie Dairyberry Oh, it's my pleasure to have our pleasure to have you and it's Mishka's pleasure to be in your lap Happy place. We ready mr. Woodham. Let's do this. It's time for voiceover body shop right now It's time for voiceover body shop Brought to you by voiceover essentials calm the home of Harlan Hogan signature products source elements the makers of source connect Voiceover heroes become a hero to your clients with award-winning voiceover training Voice actor websites calm where your voice actor website doesn't have to be a pain in the butt voiceover extra your daily resource for voiceover success and world voices the industry association of freelance voice talent And now here's your hosts Dan and George Well, hello there. I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Woodham. This is voiceover body shop or Vio Once again Entering entering the studio now is our special audience member. That's right. Anyway Our guest tonight is Debbie Dairyberry. We've got a lot of great stuff to talk about But you know Debbie is one of the Hollywood's most active voiceover artists. She's probably best known for the voice of Jimmy Neutron Jimmy Neutron got a blast Okay Let's see Maureen Bridget Phillip Ken Scott and nurse betre betre's Beatrice on Bill Burr's Netflix hit show F is for family Bill Burr my other thing You're also a very talented musician and songwriter too. Thank you. There's so many things that she does Welcome back to our show. You're one of our favorite people to have on here Thank you for having me Dan and George always a pleasure to be here for the OBS. I like to say it Yes, and Nishka's thrilled to have you here, too It's my show eat the misca show. Thanks for being here Anyway, you are a very busy lady these days you've been doing a lot of work, of course you've been Infirming I guess for a couple of months, but you've been doing all this stuff like What are you working on now? Are you working at all or still recovering from let's see? I am working Of course on all the stuff I can't tell you about but I have a couple of video games recording and I Just released a new kids song called I'm a great recycler that the video is out on my YouTube channel and It just won the Napa award the national parent products award So I'm thrilled about that. So if any of you have Little kids or just act like one you can go to my website and watch. I'm a great recycler Well, we are voice actors, which some people might think is what are you just a kid acting like a kid But I'm still working and auditioning and I had a little back surgery So I sat for a lot of sessions for a Couple months and now I'm able to stand again for sessions I also just released a Three-part virtual class that follows my book voiceover 101 and I know it's green. It probably doesn't show up, but um, I Wanted to have a class so that people could afford my class Even though I'm not there in person. It's very affordable and you can take like three hours of me Virtually so that just released which is really made me feel really good to be able to give that So, you know, so the title is voiceover 101 how to succeed as a voice actor and But the business has been changing a lot and you and I have talked about this. That's the second Edition now in total sense What do you think has changed from when we all started doing this and you've been doing this a little longer than me So but what have you seen changes and especially in the very recent past? Well, I think as in any Job description across the planet. It's now acceptable to do your VO virtually and I think a lot of Mishka wants down you help me out there. I Think there was resistance because as in any company that they didn't know if people could really do it virtually and Being forced into it The places that I work with mostly, you know cartoon studios have realized they can do it virtually and I think it's a little more challenging Animation wise because there's so many highs and lows, you know I mean audiobooks people have been doing it virtually forever because it's just you and your booth and you do your own editing but with animation now the voice artist has to be a really good engineer and You know hire these guys so that you can set your stacks So you don't over modulate all the time and have a decent Interface I found that things like for the home person I love the scarlet, but I don't think it works is great for animation just because of the highs and lows Yeah, but I have that Apollo twin and of course I like the way it works fine but that's one of the big changes of course is being able to work from home and It's forced those of us who do work from home into having to be more Hands-on with the engineering. Thank goodness. There's you guys that we can call Would it be cool if there was an audio interface that was made for voiceover actors? Yeah, because it's all designed for making music Is there one is that what we're leading up to I feel like is there one I feel like you're getting ready for the big Picture something I don't know about you. I'm not promising anything. I haven't found one yet. I'm just saying uh-huh, you know, I like having Two inputs because I have my microphone at my console and then I have one in the booth So if I have a student in the booth I can still talk to them I suppose if I had to get by and just a solo I could But I like the fact that the Apollo twin has I know it's not called the Apollo twin because it has two of those holes Yeah No, but yeah, you you you wear multiple hats. Yeah You're you're essentially a producer because you're using yourself your director and coach So you have to have these different modes of operation which definitely adds a level of complexity for sure But I think it's really nice that the other end is accepting of it. Yeah, and a lot of the software companies May have had to scramble but they figured it out so that there's this thing called Looping on on films where like ten people will come together and you'll you'll do ADR on a film and everybody You'll have to be okay. You're all screaming at one time because the walls are falling down and so They try to have you do that remotely but live. Yes, however I mean you can't do it on a zoom because there's all the delay right right these companies like I think it's I Want to say clear if you but I think it's clean feed Have figured out a way so that an engineer can take all these components all these inputs and here's something simultaneous Yeah, the engineer hears everything you need to hear you individuals don't necessarily Hear the other nine actors right while they're screaming and then the director doesn't always hear it right away So there's that extra step. Yes, where the director has to let the engineer line it up with it together Glue it and line it so that you can see it and say yes. I approve. Yes. I don't yeah, but I think it's possible The bottom line is it's possible It's really crazy all the things that are possible now And it's also nice because you know that we're going to cancun tomorrow all of us and we're gonna be working from there I'm kidding But we cut checking my phone right now We can work from anywhere as long as there's internet Yeah, no, we've only been telling all the producers this for like the last ten years You know you could talk to people all over the country. There are a lot of talented people out there No, no, no, we have to use this. Well, that's the bad part of all of this Yeah, is that now our competition pool has grown globally, right as long as they can stay up that late Or get up really early for doing stuff in India and stuff, so which is really great for Everybody who wants to get into voiceover who doesn't have necessarily live in LA. Yeah But there's always that twist where the audition will say You have to be able to at least come into the studio if we need you to Hollywood wants to work with Hollywood because it's a giant family It's it's a very social thing. It's like The new Netflix series Hollywood Beside, which you should check out. It's very interesting. It's a very familial thing You know, they want to hire their friends and their family and their neighbors and their community. It's so communal It's very warm and fuzzy. I think particularly voiceover is I don't nothing against on-camera actors, but I do think the voiceover family community is I don't know a little tighter. We are kinder a little At least I just enjoy the voiceover community so much. Well, we're not virtual we're not actual physical competition like going into a casting lounge and Staring everybody down because it's all anonymous. And so we all figure look if we all sound good We all look good one person sounds bad all the home studio voice actors Every produce a home studio. We don't want to hear that right so Mm-hmm and for a lot of video games when I audition there's a Common direction that they want to test your studio. So there's no What do you call it when you know East floor? Yeah, but you can't put any Do dads on your audition you can't run your staff Oh, yeah Unprocessed thank you for that word word retrieval skills are not Yeah, so the non-processing of it means that you have to make sure that I mean, yeah I won't process it, but I might run in if I had too much coffee and take out my teas These are the little things that show up on your recording that are this noise That doesn't really travel on the mic does it you know what zoom can't hear that noise when I'm zooming students I'm like I'm trying to teach them TSK. Yeah, and this is how you TSK You can hear me. Yeah, the other end of the zoom can't hear that noise. Yeah, it's because zoom has this extremely That noise cancel hate to bring up the letters AI. Let's just say BJ Has this thing called BJ and it learns about no, that's not good either That's good. Okay. Okay. CK has this thing called CK and it figures out what voices and what isn't voice And it tries to figure it out my daughter is also getting some voice coaching and she occasionally will do like a creature sound And it won't send the audio Zoom goes that's not human. We're gonna take that out. I'm trying to go into the settings and you have to turn Yeah, you have to set it in low Reduction like the lowest that what is it's not in there's something in the upper corner of That's original sound There's original sound you want that on or off if everybody's wearing headphones You can do on original sound on okay, and that will turn off all the echo cancellation and the noise reduction and all that and then for the To because I teach animal sounds and yeah, they're like what is that you I see your mouth, but there's no me I know I see you does this no bark That's so funny Trying to teach the elephant noise, which is a trumpet noise that you go up Zoom doesn't want nothing to do with that noise. No, we're not on zoom I will attack whatever it is we need more animal sounds in the studio Really she's not barking One of the things a lot of people who want to get into What does it take to get in I mean it's probably much harder than it used to be and it was never easy in the first place I think you know, what's the hardest at least I think so is Given its voice acting you have to be a good actor, right? So I'm assuming that anyone wanting to get into voice acting Especially animation is a good actor and that you have studied voice over and you know Mike technique because I think in animation Mike technique is more important than in any other Facet of VO because there's so many highs and lows. Yeah, and I think one of the Hardest things is I'm just having a little brain fart right now. That's okay. I had a really good thought about this Things is getting the auditions. Yeah So a lot of people who want to get an animation first thing is I want to book a Nick Nickelodeon series or a Disney princess Well, there's just some major obstacles in the way One of them is that these days the A list on camera celebrities are the ones getting the lead roles not always but for the most part and Secondly to get those auditions you have to Have a great agent and for animation. There's probably only 10 to 12 agents that actually receive these and to get with one of those 10 to 12 agents You have to be someone that they Can't that they don't have yet like do they have a Debbie Dairy Berry? Do they have how many guys between 40 and 50? Do they have how many teens how many so you you want to find a giant grid that they're kind of filling in Yeah, you want that fishbowl that has room for you. Mm-hmm, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, so the question is Can people still break in because a lot of people want to do it, but What's it? What does it take to push yourself to that level? I? Have seen people succeed by writing their own series and putting themselves in it and releasing it on I'm looking at you There is a loophole in the screen actors guild where you can create a project and make it for new media and Put yourself in it taft-heartly yourself, which means get yourself in SAG and Whether you make it or not or whether it airs or not or whether it's successful or not boom You're in SAG, but maybe it is successful. You know, maybe you have something like that little snail. What's your name? the one on YouTube Snail on YouTube, do you know the movie that come on that the Kyoto brothers just did this Oh my gosh, I had I know Our demographic is not Many of you watching no, they're all yelling at the camera. They're yelling at their computer in the chat But that started out as just somebody's baby. Yeah, right and these little things can Succeed, so that's one way of making your own project Also, a lot of people feel bad about approaching Family members or the uncle of a family member who you knew or the brother of someone you went to college with That's kind of the way it happens. It's called Hollywood nepotism Mm-hmm, and it's a real thing. It's a family thing or you meet people who are repped by an agent that you want to be With well that agent might not look at your Demo no matter how great it is unless you have a referral So you're right Dan it is very hard, but there are ways in but you Have to find The place that needs you right and be able to step up to the skill There are a lot of people who want back in VO now and they never learned the technical end of it And so if they say I want to sign with this agent Are you able if that agent sends you auditions? Are you able to record them quickly and turn them around edit them and get them back to that agent? No, but my boyfriend has a studio Mm-hmm. Yeah, the boyfriend may not be available. You have to do it yourself. You can't depend on Anybody else. Yeah, right, but you have to have their home phone numbers We have websites I mean, I can't tell you the times I've called Dan or George and I'm screaming out of my mind Calm down Debbie Push this button Anyway, if you're just joining us our guest is the one and only Debbie Derryberry and we're talking about animation and voiceover in general If you have a question for her Throw it in the chat room because Jeff Holman is actually here in the studio with us Taking down all your questions and making sure that we get to ask them in our next segment And I'm so happy to answer any animation voiceover any kind of questions you guys have Anything anything yet Jeff because there's some questions actually we got before the show too I don't know good to know but um those go those get first in line. Yeah, this is a golden opportunity you guys Yeah, it's free right now Okay, excellent good to hear that so What can people do if they want to get into this? What do they need to improve? To increase their chances, let me guess it's not imitating other characters that already exist People will say, you know, I want to get into voiceover. I can do a really good imitation of well That is a part of voiceover and it's called impersonations. It's really but it's not Um coming up with organic characters. It's a really amazing Skill that I am not privy to I can't do it But so many people are and things come up where they need that so you'll get an agent. Maybe that's your shoe in Maybe you let the agent know I can do these characters spot on That doesn't mean you can steal one of the lines from the movie and duplicate that line But you can take a fresh line that that actor has never done before and you can say it in that person's voice And act in that person's and act in it after that person A couple of things uh an agent might look for on your resume that might uh get you in either the door or in some of these workshops Um is improv training It has become So important and something that they they look for and it can put you Above other people who don't have this improv training and you can get improv training in any city in the world I mean here in la there's the biggies, you know, there was their second city or there's the groundlings And there's all kinds of shoots of any of these that you can take improv from And it's a certain set of skills and its formula and you learn it and it helps you In auditions where they have the key word Make it your own Make it your own means you can add words that aren't in the script and be funny and fluff it up If it doesn't say make it your own you stick to the script Except in animation you add sounds Um, which is a lot of what I teach Because people may do a very nice audition But they do the same audition that 90 other people do And it's those 10 people that do those little extra things. Yeah, the surprises. Yeah, like if if the line is I've got a surprise for you And it's a little kid. I've got a surprise for you They're going to get a bunch of auditions that sound just like that But they're going to get some auditions that that look at the stage direction before and after that says She's running in and talking at her dad who's across the room and she's laughing That sounds like Which is a lot different then I've got a surprise for you, right? Yeah So being able to know how to read a script read the stage direction and incorporate that and make your audition stand out And they always give you though they give you like when you when you are auditioning how much of the script Are you getting are you getting like a page? Are you getting a scene? That is a great question all of the above usually just your lines with um, maybe the the attitude or with sarcasm or Sad And so it's up to the actor who has taken acting classes and know what scene study is and knows how to Come up with a character and a backstory and to say why am I saying this? You know, you may have to make it up. It's usually there. It's usually pretty clear So sometimes they don't give you anything sometimes if it's a video game We never get the script. Oh, yeah, not even until you get to the center lock and key, right? It's like it's extremely secretive. That's why you have to really love your director because they set it up for you But for um, some shows They will give you a scene Which is awesome because you actually know what's happening But then a lot of actors don't read the scene. They're like blah blah blah my line. Blah blah blah my line Blah blah blah my line They may not say blah blah. They say that other BS. Well, some of them do I've been known to do that myself BS BS my line Does does it help to sometimes read the line that's feeding yours at least in your head? So you Absolutely, I would say sometimes I read it out loud, but then you in your editing you go and clip it out Yeah, yeah, yeah and there's a lot of tricks to uh springboarding off the previous line for instance if um somebody said What are you wearing in the party tonight? and my line was the red dress A trick is to steal that word from the line just before yours. Oh the party. I'm wearing the red dress See how I stole the word the party that wasn't in my line but It's there and it's for everyone to see And you can leave that in your line and it lets the director know the casting director that You've you've done your homework. You know what's going on and it livens up your line It gives you some place to go so Yeah, there's just so much to Take into account. So it's it's a simple question How do you excel and and get the video jobs? Yeah, well, I mean just generally Yeah, things like that generally you make a tape you get an agent you audition and book It's that easy the book Yeah practice practice practice Well, that's practice is always you've got to be constantly learning and constantly practicing and practicing how to do the The edits too And being being good at knocking it out and not being afraid of it because honestly you guys if I can edit my own Editions anybody can do this Not as well as these guys but good enough to get by coming on the show and asking questions There's another great way to do it. Some people are much better at doing that. We see you guys in this chat Every week some of you literally every week every week And you're absolutely students of everybody that comes on this show like debbie And you have a leg up because you're learning this stuff. You may have to ask the same question twice Because you know, you don't remember everything but if you're asking the question you have a big better chance Yeah, for sure. So we have a pile of questions, right jeff. That's right. All right. Well, we're going to take a break And we're going to get to those questions. So stay tuned. We'll be right back with debbie. Dairyberry and your questions right after this This is the latin lover narrator from jane the virgin anthony mendez and you're enjoying dan and george on the voice of our buddy show Voice over essentials.com has the ultimate answer for mic safety Look, your mic is the most valuable part of your audio chain. 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But I said this before i'm just going to say it again Uh, that you all as an actor you always hope for that one job that Launches you that people know you buy and for me that is jimmy neutron because um It seems like everybody around the world seems to know who jimmy neutron is Uh, so that would be that answer But i i just forgot about little dogs on the prairie until you said that like Well that brought back memories Yeah, that was a question that was a just to reiterate because we lost some audio that was a question from Catherine j. Jarvie and she thanks for watching. She mentioned that little dogs in the prairie Yeah, what's the decade for that one? Oh, I gotta say it was the In the 90s On that early 2000s. No in the 90s before time began That's right. We didn't have cell phones then. Yeah And it came out on vhs omg sarah switek asks How many takes should you do? In an animation audition. I mean this question always comes up. Should I do one? Should I do two? Should I do five? Um, and then how do you differentiate? It's a really really good question and I struggle with that sometimes too I do one take if i'm giving one character if they say um, give me two takes and You can come up with another character. Then you do a second Uh a second character I think if you're going to do just a similar take that you're way then you're wasting everybody's time Just do one take unless you have a different accent a totally different attitude age Mouth uh speech impediment unless it's a real different character. Just one And they and they and do they ever say we want two takes? Is that ever happen? Not usually in an animation audition. Yeah um Sometimes they will say they want numerous takes but they'll give you the Parameters for it. Gotcha. Gotcha. You know they want it in america just do it three different ways They don't say that really they they give you like direction I mean, I imagine that it's out there and it does happen. I'm not saying it doesn't happen Just for the most part you figure a casting director has Probably five parts to cast for a show Yeah, there's you hear this all the time. There's 20 agents out there How many auditions are they going to get they're going to get through five seconds of your audition? So that's why I when I coach people I always work on the first line more than anything else because really that's all they're going to hear Honestly, unless it's really stellar then they might hear you to the end If i'm giving two takes and they're both brilliant. I will slate Debbie deri berry two takes as opposed to Debbie deri berry take one Yeah, they'll know the second takes coming, but I'd rather say two takes It's just my little trick Um, because I think they know coming from me. It's going to be a different take a different character But yeah, you just don't want to bombard these poor casting directors Poor things their ears turn to jelly after a while every day Day after day except when they're actually casting something um a very own jeff holman right here in the studio You mentioned earlier that you had to work sitting down a lot, but do you normally work standing up for animation? I always work standing up if I can um As I said, I had this little back injury So I had to sit for a lot of my auditions and it was difficult for me because um So many of my jobs are you know animation requires all this energy to get it out the sound out the um I have this one job I just bark and It's hard to bark sitting down And it's I get really hot and flustered. So, um, that's a good thing about having a home booth You can take your clothes off Your chimney top Yeah, if it's a not so, uh demanding animation job I will sit But um, I think for the most part I find that I I get that exuberance and that bigger sound if I can stand up Well, physicality is a really important part of doing animation voices or any acting for that matter On on mic. I think some people tend to forget that uh, they're they're acting and they Just think they have to talk loud to the mic And uh, because you know, George and I get stuff all the time. It's like I gotta be loud But if you're physical, you know, and with what you're doing, maybe even acting it out that also adds to The expression of what you're doing It really does Dan and that's another reason why when and if you build your booth know what you're building for and Accommodate it because you you want to be able to at least get this big in your booth For animation because um, and and you want to do a lot of mic training with your mic Because you need to know where it is. I mean, I still whack my mic and then my take will be ruined because I've been physical We all did. Yeah, whack a mic This one's from grace. You want to get grace? Yeah, she's she's asking What's the difference between doing animation acting and then doing the voice acting for gaming Nothing Nothing at all. It's all uh digging deep and um Being able to jump from one emotion to the next And being able to have it be organic um I think for me the biggest difference is that usually in animation I get the script So I get to know what's happening But in video games you don't get a script and you have to realize solely on your director to set up the scene for you I do this one video game that I've been doing for a long time called a guild wars 2 I do the voice of timie and There's you know how each video game has their own world and the names of their dragons and the names of their cities and They're all made up and they're very difficult to say and learn and so the director will The the I should say the the writer for that section because of course in video games There's writers for each section each expansion each chapter They will give you the setup and so I always have a piece of paper I always tell my students have a piece of paper and a pencil Not digital do not depend on digital when you're doing an animation or video game session because it takes a little extra time And there's no time to waste So if you're gonna take up their valuable time by just saying oh, hold on my it's not working my pencil My digital pencils out of battery Just have a pencil and paper and I write down the whole setup And I write down the names and I write down the people who are telling me this And so for video games you have to be able to process all that pretty quickly And to depend on your director to say what's just happening in this scene And then I use my acting chops and I incorporate all of that and I give them a few different takes and in animation You should have done your homework. You read the script Sometimes they even give you access to the storyboard So you should do your homework and know what's going on. It moves even quicker in animation Because the director doesn't have to lay it out for you so hard That's why I found that the biggest variation How about the length of the sessions are they the same length of session? um for me if if you're doing a knit cartoon say a 22 minute or then They record you all separate now. So my sessions will be anywhere from 15 minutes to maybe half an hour Maybe 45 minutes for um for that session So that's not you don't look at it like well, we got you're going to be with us for two hours Whether you're done or not or the contract gives you four hours Four hours. Yeah, but it doesn't take that long because you go from your line to the next line video games they Can book you for an eight hour day. It's usually a four hour session They usually use all four hours because there's all this time taken with setup and they have to break you every hour and They have a little more juggling to do because they have to say the screaming for the end in video games There's always the screaming And that it takes a while and then there's always the the library with your character there's always the The library of of all the sounds that this character is going to do and then they'll You know lay it out for you and that takes time to do right Once again, we're talking about debbie dairyberry. We've still got time for a few more questions here. So let's keep moving on here Eddie furie who has a lot of kids has a question. He wanted to be here. I know this for a fact and he's Couldn't be here. Um, but he says i'm a huge fan and How often does do you coach child actors kids? all the time Yeah, you go to my website or go to calendly.com and um just schedule a session um, I really would love for Everybody before they coach with me to read my book voice over 101 how to succeed as a voice actor because then you'll know my language Good idea, but I do coach kids and adults And I find that sometimes if the kid is um already an old hat at vio Although I charge by the hour. I will charge by the half hour if that audition only takes a half hour I have a lot of kids all over the world who coach with me and they're all set to go. They just need that little help to get from Reading it plain to reading it like the script wants it and it goes pretty quickly Are they looking for a lot of kids because A lot of the cartoons that I used to watch when I used to watch cartoons with somebody It was adult actors usually playing kids. Are they starting to use more children in these types of productions? It's a good mixture dan. I would say that uh Companies like uh, disney disney jr. They will hire kids More often than they ever have however directors who have directed kids and Know that there are adults who can do it and maybe uh It's easier for that director to work with adults if they can hire an adult they will but I will say there's So much work out there for kids Good to know because they want to carry that voice season by season year after year after year and if you're looking at year after year Well, I know they do a lot of recasting at at disney. So they'll recast that disney voice, but gotcha Yeah, you know for something that's an adult swim they'd much rather well They need an adult because there's foul language Even if it's a kid But if it goes on for many seasons you're better off I think getting an adult who could sound like a kid who's not going to enter puberty. Yeah Good to know Erin s on youtube says do you help uh, do you help with Animation demos like do you coach someone through a demo? I do Sometimes I take people from nothing to a full demo Yeah, I help people with demos You know my schedule is kind of full but there is always room on calendly and it's not something that we do in one session It depends on where you are as an actor Like you can contact me if you want on that, but it's it's a many Stepped process to get an animation demo made And second part. This is a quicker answer. I'm sure is it normal to slate for animation demos for the actor to slate For an animation demo. No. Oh, I'm sorry animation Audition I said demo. Sorry. Slating is an interesting one. I mean, it's like some people say no, no don't slate me more Uh, yes, I slate for animation auditions Um, but if I know that they're looking for a kid and they know who I am sometimes I'll slate afterwards Just because I want to say You But yeah, we slate for animation auditions unless specifically told not to Alrighty, uh, let's see here. Uh, terry briscoe asks. Thank you so much for being here debbie because You're welcome terry briscoe now. Yeah, terry's always here. So, you know, we're glad he's always here, too Uh, are there any types of characters that you won't do? Like drug addicts or political dictators or something like that? Um, it certainly depends. There are some auditions that I just don't do because I don't stand a chance in hell of booking it If I know who else is going to be auditioning for that, um, they'll send me these auditions for gravelly deep British actors with gravitas I could do this if I had to but There's so many other people who do it better That if I have a whole slew of auditions to do I might select that one last I won't do gun commercials and I won't do commercials for people who I hate politically and you all know who that is And uh pretty much I think there's only been one job that I've left Because I was very unhappy with the way it was going and Hardly any auditions I haven't done. I think they're all pretty I don't know Un unsighted And not too salacious. Yeah No, there's not really I I'll try anything I mean and if you If they booked me for the kid and they get you for three roles anyway in the sag contract Um, it's good to be able to have a lot of roles in your wheelhouse Yes, I can do the old grandma and yes, I could do that gravitas british woman. You know, it's not The dog's growling I can do the dog I do it for a living I'm a professional This one's from craig davis on youtube talking character development. How do you know a character voice is good to go Before an audition. I guess how do you practice it? How do you feel confident in your I would say if you can fall into that character and live it for an hour A day until everybody in your house wants you to get out and is angry with you We don't want to hear it anymore. So falling into that character is a really great way of knowing when you're ready but I would say you need to be able to Span the gamut of gamut of emotions with that character And be in that same voice for laughing crying anger love And not leave character And it's hard sing Mmm. Mmm. That's a good one. Catherine Jade Jarvie asks uh for uh, let's see Is there a a genre of animation or gaming that you like doing more than another? um No, I like it all. I love to work. I love my job and I I I like it all So I I wish I I'm not keen on having to scream the whole time but um And I think when a show is every line is frenetic and at the top of the range where it's like migraine inducing That can be difficult. Yeah, but I just like Voice over work. I like auditioning you have to like to audition if you don't like auditioning and aren't good at it um get good at it and get to where you like it because That's I'd say 90 of my job. That's what I do I just audition and edit mostly Yeah, have you been doing much uh commercial work? I mean aside from all the animation stuff that you've been doing Um, no, I audition a lot for commercials, but most of my work is in animation Um, and if I do book commercials my success for ones have been animated commercials Of which there are many A couple more we can squeeze in real quick if we're fast. Julie a wet or a yacht Uh, do you do an audition for a product political part? You don't agree with and do you sell your soul? You kind of covered that you said there's gonna be candidates you will not be working for But I mean that's in anything, right, you know, you What's the right way? I'm just losing all my words But you want to gravitate towards that but you agree with and makes you feel good and you can make a better world from it Vaping commercials and be authentic. Yeah, exactly. Oh wishbone asks Wishbone, that's that's zero for the oh friend of mine. Oh wishbone. Okay. Jacob's friend wishbone Okay, jacob's friend. Yeah, what inspired you guys to get into voice acting and makes it How do you make it into a career? Well How many hours you got there You gotta make a choice, but if you love acting I would say try Everything and see where you start booking right, you know, I'm do on camera stuff I do theatrical. I do commercial on camera and I do commercial voiceover and But where I book is I think where I should be because the goal is to make a living doing this So don't I always say not to be afraid of your pigeonhole and embrace it and you know kind of Don't beat yourself up that you just sound that one way um I've had students that cannot get out of their sound and they have this very specific Unique weird sound weird. I mean that in a good way And that's that's what they book and yeah, it's always worth it to try and Get out of your Where your comfort zone, but don't be embarrassed or afraid to embrace what god gave you Yeah, you might end up being the voice of marge simpson. Yep Talk about a unique sound and her sisters Yeah, that's right. Yeah a little adjustment with that There's oh, we got two more good. I don't know how much time we have. Can we get two more? Yeah, so this one's from Patricia Andrea How do you organize to remember the voices of characters? I guess this is if you have multiple roles in one thing Is this a mental thing or is it just I don't know if she's talking about like An episode of a cartoon where I do a lot of voices or where I have a lot of voices Characters that live in my wheelhouse When people make their demos They usually put their strongest characters on their animation demos And those it's like learning a song, you know, you listen to the Beatles album or your favorite album And you know what song that comes next and your brain goes there. Well When you hear your animation demo, I want you to memorize your animation demo And so that if the audition comes up that it's for the old lady You have the old lady on your demo and you know the words that go with it Well, those few words are what boots you into her voice And the same with any character So hopefully you'll be able to use that as your springboard to launch right into that character and remain in that character If you come to a job, I did one the other day and they said It's a little boy. You're going in to read a little boy and it was a gig a gig. So I went in and I Got behind the mic and I'm ready to read this part as a little boy and they said Oh, by the way, it's um, it's british Okay, um, so I I I melded my british with my little boy voice and then they said oh, but the boy is a hundred years old Okay, so it took me a minute, but you you learn how to layer these things like um Like if this was my teenage voice, this is the one I always go back to okay So here's my normal teenage voice, but then she say say No, she has braces Okay, so this teenage voice has braces create But wait, she's from the sale. Okay, so I had this teenage voice with braces from the sale So I've just layered three things to create a different character And you can do that with any age a speech impediment accent attitude voice placement But you have to be able to Grab hold of that character you create and live in it. Like I said, right Well debbie if someone wants to get a hold of you And perhaps study with you How would they do so? You can go to my website debbie dairy berry dot com Make sure you spell it right debi dairy berry dot com um, you can contact me there and There's a lot of tabs on that website And you can also book with me at calendly.com slash debbie dairy berry Um, happy to answer Your questions on my website if I can And uh, yeah, read the book first though. Yeah, read the book. She said it read the book first. Yeah, it's it's Not too expensive and really it's it's got everything. I know I poured it in here for you guys Second edition so for you guys and I also have the virtual class that goes with this It's a Three one hour segments and you can get them all at once or you can get them one at a time as your budget affords but Hopefully it will you know give you an insight into how I think It works in the voiceover business just from my viewpoint, you know great Well, thanks for being with us and thank you for having me dad. That's always a pleasure having you on because we've Lately coming in. I know I was going to play my new song go to my youtube channel and play I'm a great recycler for your kids Awesome. Thanks for having me guys. All right. All right, george, and I'll be right back to wrap things up and rack it up for tech talk right after You're still watching v. 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