 In programing, you give instruction to the computer to do something. So, in the process of adding there the factor of time whereby it will be telling you maybe turn up after 20 minutes, something of that sort. And also, another move is toward, you see, some time actually someone can book in your space and never manage to turn up. So, we will be incorporating something like a purchasable tokens whereby if you book on my space, that thing will be transferred from, a particular token will be transferred from your wallet to my wallet but the moment I have served it, it's like I'm releasing you. So, that token, it gets transferred back to your wallet. So, it's not really fixed on, let's say, Baba shop, maybe Salu, not really that, but on the other side in that you have real time data tables. The reason I say it's a Q management system in that also it can be used for booking. Let's say you can actually, maybe on the first food or hotels you can get some or maybe you can book for some or let's say, I think people do like taking, what do they normally call this kind of chips, chips fries, fries, fries. So, just imagine if you can just go there, maybe book maybe or purchase the chips for 150 shillings, then the owner of that space can see Stephanie as a purchase, something on the system it's indicating paid. So, it's just a matter of, also we shall be introducing the sales management system that's in progress. Another, let me give you a story, not actually a story, but just I want you to construct a mental model inside your mind. Just imagine your travelling, maybe you are going in a rural way, you have actually you have purchased your car, then you have cut breakdown. What will you really do? You can call your mechanic in Nairobi, but with space up actually we have a mobile, actually service can move in there to be mobile, for example, maybe your car is already broken down. What you can do, you can actually go to space up, such a mechanic, maybe you'll find a good one, a good one maybe in the range of one kilometer, in that we have the geolocator, geolocator, you can filter spaces using distance, for example, you search mechanic, then filter with distance starting from 200 meters. If you miss in 200 meters you can scale up to 500 meters, one kilometer and so on. Is it the same technology that's being used by the taxi hailing apps, the order for Uber, balls, whatever it is that you use, the ones that they bring to you, the ones that are nearest, if they're not near then we'll bring one who's far, but the closest to you. I will say that way, but for them mostly I think they normally integrate it directly from our Google Maps. But in this one it's a realistic thing, if you are seated here I think you can approximate a radius of 200 meters from this area. I don't think if you can, on Uber I don't think there is something like distance filters, you will never come across, I wish I could show you my phone, but because I actually have the application on my phone. So you start with filtering, maybe you have filter mechanic or you have filter barbershop or maybe you have such, maybe even you wanted a clinic, then you filter with distance, maybe you get one in one kilometer, what you can go, you can go ahead and when the moment there is an icon for location at the top right, where if you click that location icon it will lead you to, it will locate that person or that service you are looking for. In that if we say like we are just basing on radius, you can't know like Asako has many directions, it can be this way, it can be this way, so actually that's the reason whereby Google Maps come in and also we have the, I can say the real-time charts whereby you can actually text that person on real-time, there is the incorporated messages, we are using fire-based messaging and fire-based messaging algorithm, I can say that. Alright, so it's real-time chatting? Yes, it's also the chatting side. So I think now you are getting into what space up does. Then coming when maybe you are posting your service, maybe you are an adressor or maybe also you are running a taxi in that you are also beside you can post your, when you are posting your service you can post it as a stationery or a mobile service. So for a stationery service we can say for example is an apartment, we really have a problem in Jujia whereby maybe the day I was looking for a place that maybe I can relocate to, I really had to walk through the vast area for around two days, that is when I found the perfect one or the space which fit my desire. But just imagine if a space up was already there, the service providers are selling their houses there and then the consumers are just going there to find them. I could have just search on space up apartment, put maybe I want an apartment for 6000 shillings at that sabit sita. Don't be shocked. I know. So I could have just search maybe I could have just search and say me let's say abit sita or one bedroom then filter distance maybe within 200 meters I miss, I go to 500 meters I miss, then maybe I find one in 3 kilometers. Then I could use the moment I click on the icon for location it will launch that the direction or at the area which that place is located. And from there when I'm searching it will actually throw me a quite a number of option of the same. So we have the mobile spaces we have the on the other side we have the what I can say we have the stationary ones. So for mobile people maybe like the taxi then do the guys I mean when I say do they mean the motorbike. They can opt in in that there is quite a big difference between us and maybe the other companies for example over for over. I think you are charged 25% commission for each and every single ride you offer. Okay. Yeah sure sure. But on this one actually space up doesn't have a lot of customization so for if I really have a motorbike and maybe some people using the application I can actually just post my business there maybe I'm just giving rides to people. Anyone maybe searching for a motorcycle within juja can just filter distance then maybe get me there hit my DM through the real time chart something of that sort. Okay. So I think I've really explained on that I've expounded on that area of the stationary and mobile spaces. So that's the home page. Okay. Yeah sure. We've gotten so many things from from your app. So why that's just I think we are doing now we are doing around I can say 0.4 that's around a quarter of the application. Wow. 0.25. Yeah sure. 0.25 is a quarter. So there's a lot so you can actually book if you know just to say all that you've said to summarize you can it's as easy as booking your hairdresser and queuing online you know. I want to say okay not I'm not a dictator but I will really love you could say you can book a service in that if you go direct like I was saying maybe you are booking in your hairdresser there are the services maybe for example back there at some time we have only one clinic people are really flooded there. So yeah if because I'm also working on the ussd whereby you don't really have to have a smartphone to maybe queuing a particular service or do the queuing. Oh okay. Yeah sure. So just imagine if you can use an application to queue for a clinic something that sort yeah it's really something nice. Me on my side let's say now I'm talking like a business owner. I really have a business maybe I'm cooking this this this famous coastal coastal water coastal cuisine the Briani. So you know sometime you are really cooking then maybe you cook around enough dish for 100 people then tomorrow maybe or that day only 75 people turn up. So actually throw away around enough enough amount for 25 people but with this one if they could book previous day then you can just confirm so and so as paid. So when you're cooking you just know like this is the exact amount I'm doing. So we are actually cutting on the issues of where you are wasting your time wasting your energy or the the issue of energy comes in whereby you are looking for service in a vast area maybe time wasting time also money. Let me give you another context we have another feature we normal I call it a status banner there is this issue in school whereby sometimes I really want to see the chairman but I reached that place that that man is not available. I'm told maybe come tomorrow is just checked out there isn't 20 minutes but with space up you can actually confirm maybe that service. We've seen him on TV guys we know you're live we know you're live we relax so yeah we waiting for space up. I really forgot to put this phone on silent. No pressure no pressure no worries it's alright it's alright it's alright. So now before we even get to that one yes from this one that you have said you are able to get services to book for services and the comfort of your work as a consumer. As a consumer but on me on my side as a service provider I can actually manage my sales or manage my products in that I'm seeing maybe I'm actually the first point is selling out my service and products then they say the second point is whereby I can see so and so as booked or so and so as purchased something something of that sort. So it's more of a Q management system you shall be queuing but on my side I'm also putting my products on a Q and managing the sales I can say. Okay so it's both ways the side of the sales person who's managing it and then that there's you as a consumer you are being saved on time you know I can imagine as a lady I think I'm related also the hospital queuing you know you book an appointment to the doctor but then there's a long queue you know. So you just know if you're number ten then you when they've gotten to number you know that's a six depending on where you are then you're able to now come and you know so that saves you time. It's very convenient and it also helps the person that the service provider also just have better management you know and it's really nice and apart from that you've also mentioned. Ya this is also the part of it's basically the same thing but now the stationary and mobile services so if you're you know a boda rider or if you also have online shop I think you can do that. Even if let's say another example is if you're a plumber and maybe want actually to get some customers a plumber can actually you can't go to the plumber plumber comes to your house. Ya that is it so just imagine maybe I'm a plumber maybe I'm looking for some kind of job I can actually post my service there then someone can just be filled in with distancing. Raymond is actually very good in fixing pipes then I just eat me I'll be then I'll check at his place maybe I'm just maybe still checking on or fixing inside then I get another another appointment maybe turn up turn up do this and this and this and so. So there's that and then now also the stationary if you want to service breakdown you know you're new in that town and you need a particular serve you just get into the app get the mechanic get whatever you need at that particular point in time. It's not just limited to to a mechanic but that's a good example because it happens it really does so that's amazing and you're telling us about something else. Okay let me just start by asking you a question how maybe how many followers do you have on Instagram. Wow how many followers do I have on Instagram. Let's just say maybe you have 10,000 but there is someone like Krazykana Krazykana I'm sure he's doing around 500,000. Do you think you can really compete with Krazykana for views you will never you will never be on that level. So actually what I'm really trying there is the issue of feeds whereby I've actually integrated the logarithm of location over that of the fund base whereby like for you to see my post maybe you are my follower. But with this one now it's it comes whereby you just have you just alternate you just alter your settings. For example this actually works with the location so if I mean let's say Jujja and there is a particular post that has been your fence to appear in Jujja alone. So anyone in Jujja will see that post depending whether they are online. Okay. So we are not really depending on the issue the logarithm of fund base but on this side we are depending on location whereby post will be visible depending with the location. Okay sure sure. So it's location base. A location logarithm for people to see posts. Okay. So if my target audience me if let's say I'm an entrepreneur I sell jewelry and my target location is Kilimani so I can just make sure that people in Kilimani are the ones that are viewing that. You are very right. You are very right. And actually that will really save you on money maybe for advertising and also raise the probability of you meeting your target niche. In that we actually I'm integrating another part whereby you're analyzing the demographic data of the world. So from that point I think the cultures or the consumption culture of places do vary depending with the geolocation. For example maybe you'll find maybe the people actually we can use food for example the people of course I think they normally do the biryani then the people from Southreef they do milk. So you see you can actually with that from that demographic data analysis you can actually after analyzing that data you will know where you shall be maybe geolocating or geofencing your post to appeal. So we just tell us maybe you want your post to appear in Miami something of that sort and we just push it in that it's not it's a worldwide web a worldwide app. So if you tell us maybe you really want today in Napoli or Adelaide Australia we shall do that for you. Okay. Interesting. If I want to post in Denmark well. That's a really good. Denmark it is. Okay. Quite interesting. This is very nice. Okay. You wanted to say something. I think maybe I'm talking too much. You're really excited. You're so excited about you know telling us about your you know your application. It's a good thing. So let me knock at you short before you lose that tale of thought. Oh so I go ahead. Also let me let me also ask you another question or maybe just a statement. Maybe for example today you want maybe the I think Y254 is a family of KBC. Yeah. Okay. So maybe KBC really want to wire someone for the desk or let's say someone really good in producing or shooting videos. So which channel normally do you use to get maybe the best applicants for that job? For advertising? Yeah sure. On social media websites mostly? Website. Yeah. So I think but coming on that area of the website I'm sure you are not reaching maybe all the people. There is maybe some best people you are missing on and they actually have very good skills. So I'm introducing something I call TAGS. For example TAGS TAGS. Yeah not TAGS TAGS. Yeah like TAG TAG TAG. Yeah yeah. So on TAGS let's say for example there is a software. I'm a software developer maybe I'm learning software. So my TAG will be software then there is a company looking maybe for developers. They will actually use the TAG developers. So the moment like they post something with that TAG everyone who uses that TAG developer will see that post and this actually exposes a lot of opportunities for everyone equity is coming in. Okay. Yeah sure. So they can also post just people are about to post job advice in the application. Yeah sure. All right. So I see that your app is all inclusive it's all round. It's just for everyone. Everyone. Really what can you compare if you to compare it with something that's already in the market what do you compare it with? Okay I'll start just by going direct to the common application that already are there in that actually I believe on this and there is nothing new. It's just a repetition and the more things changes the more they remain the same. So let me start by Twitter. Twitter actually I think they are just doing post is just the similar thing we are doing in that there is just some slight modification of the same in that I'm just introducing something like a geolocator. I don't think if you can filter things on Twitter using the geolocator. Yeah okay. That is it. There is also the other side of the locational logarithm. Although Twitter tries as much as possible to incorporate the locational logarithm and the locational logarithm and the fund-based logarithm whereby they normally those visibility of those post depending with the followers. Mine is much more fixed to the location. Okay. So that's where difference coming also we have this issue of when you are posting a particular service you can alter it maybe you can post it equestationally or something like that. So we are incorporating or we are partnering with Google Maps. Okay. So those are the key partners. So so far you have Google Maps as your partner. Yeah. We have the firebill charting logarithm also incorporated into the application. Okay. Are you looking you know for before we get even back to how the functionality are you looking to get funding you know for most startups for most innovators the problem is usually the funding bit of it and getting partners and getting you know people to just support you as you build your you know your business. So how is it for you? Are you are you looking for people to come in? Okay. All right. On that question I'll say really on the business side of it I really I'm really looking for funding in that actually there are some groups you are in talks with but they haven't really come out to that clearly. But I'm sure with the time they shall come in then maybe we shall get some funding and believe me I'm sure in the next one year specific will be something very big. Okay. Because I mean Kenya we have amazing innovations. Look at where Mpesa is today. It is cross borders. I think Mpesa was jikwa innovation. I think realize back then into seven first tested in Tika. Look at that. Jikwa the home of innovations. Really great. You're doing a great job you know and you're just a young person. How did okay I'm getting ahead of myself. Let me just go back to functionality fast. You know when you talk about giving an option for if I want a motorbike and do the I can get it from the upright because the do the guy has posted his service there so I can get it there. So now how is the security like you know other people the service providers have posted the services there but for me as a consumer I want to know that once I get this do the guy I know I'll get safe and if something happened then there's a way that I can be tracked or something you know it can be reported or if I go somewhere if my money in a potia mahali you know I can get a refund from it. You know this are some of the things in place in place for other applications. How is it for yours? Okay that's a very good question indeed. I can say this is where now my teams come in the space up actually that the space up means I can say that we have beside the application there is something we normally call back office or admin super panel that is whereby you follow up on maybe someone breaking the regulation something of that sort maybe someone harassing the other person something of that sort and another thing that will come in we shall have this we'll add something like ratings whereby someone really for you maybe if a particular body gives you a good ride you can really rate him good. So you see when you are filtering with distance and maybe searching you can you will automatically pick someone some good ratings so that is where the discipline for disciplines comes in actually everyone will really love maybe his or her business to have a good rating. It's a reflection of your customer satisfaction. So you have the security in mind when you are coming up with this. Right. What about how different is it for e-shops or e-commerce? How is it different from what people have on let's say Jumia? Thank you. Let me ask you a question. Maybe if you want something on Jumia, what are the steps? Maybe you are just going there. Just like you are chatting with a bot. I think it's that way. You are just ordering there maybe getting this on your cart. You are just maybe chatting with just an empty space or a bot. But this one is actually person to person we are offering a space for bargaining in that at most it offers maybe the stores I think you have already jumped to the feature of the stores whereby you have the in-build stores actually the in-build stores was just an extension for services or the business people whereby if they have really a lot of products maybe I'm selling t-shirts like you can't put them on the Q management system so the need for us to arise. So let's say I'm selling maybe the shoes I can actually post there and if I'm in Jujia maybe a classmate of mine see Raimond is actually selling some really good shoes you can just go there to when you click shop it will launch the real time charts. I will receive a notification maybe I really want these shoes then we start bargaining then we agree maybe let's meet at the school gate I'll give you. So we are offering a space for bargaining and also I think it's developing social skills. Just take in mind maybe you can bargain with Jumia. If it's 2,000 shilling it's 2,000 shilling. 2,000 plus delivery on top. Ya sure. Then another thing would you opt in to maybe order potatoes on Jumia. Some raw potatoes for you to cook. I've never tried it. I don't think even someone will really opt in for the same or some fresh maize. So space apart this local stores whereby we are just doing at the grass root level and believe me I really believe in future even someone selling account rural areas who opt in for space up. It's something very local. Let's say you're my neighbor. So Stefan you'll see Raymond today as decided maybe I will sell that bull today it won't be there. So this Raymond I really know this guy. Maybe we are just there. I'm saying maybe I really want 100,000. You're telling me no let's do maybe 90,000. Then another neighbor is saying Raymond I will offer you 200,000. So we are really offering a space for bargaining maybe actually it's just like a live auction. You see that? Ya it's there. There is really a lot of disparity between us. So it's very unique built on the local needs of local people. We really care about you as a person. Ya sure. Okay interesting quite interesting. So there's this other feature that I do think you've mentioned no for most applications usually told refer to a friend but now to get you know or you ask people there's something about the subscription and the game part where you play a game with a friend and then now your friend follows you or something. I'm not sure. Maybe before answering your question I've just realized you have already went ahead of me. So let me put some clarity on that issue whereby you can play games to gain followers. Someone will really ask me why play games to gain followers then whatever you are posting on stories to appear on that followers while on the other side you are saying like a post will be appearing depending on the location. Okay alright I'll say that the logarithm of location is much more like a general if we just say Nairobi today is just Nairobi. But on the game side whereby you can actually post your game by first maybe you will be posting your game is like you are agreeing to that logarithm then the moment you have posted your game you can go ahead to start playing other people's game. That is the first rule you have to post your game to play other people's rules just like agreeing to that logarithm. So how do you mean me posting my game? It's just something I just did something in that I didn't want the application to be very wide we just do something like Sudoku with the color game so very simple just for 30 seconds at least one color matches you gain the honor of that game as your follower. Then whatever you are posting on your stories will be visible to them. So this side is actually for socializing but if you go to the feed side it's actually business oriented. Okay. But on this game side whereby you are posting stories to be visible to your followers it's much oriented to socializing. Okay so there's the social bit of it and now there's the business bit of it. So I'm still trying to get my head around me posting my game for me to gain. Okay so now there's women and there's Stephanie, right? So you have your game there. I play your game, I win and then I gain you as my follower automatically. Alright. What about but how did you now bring your game to the app? Is it a game that you've developed? That is just a code written on the application so it's part of our code base. So we really have a very, very big code base. We're really frustrating sometimes in that something can break on the other side then everything is just like setting up on fire. Okay. Wow. This is quite something. So it has games, there's the business side, there's a lot to space up. And then there is now, I can say there is the other side for me personally. That is it. Whereby let's say tomorrow maybe you will come up and maybe you really wanted to do ABCD. So you set up maybe your goals and you said you want to do ten things. Then maybe tomorrow in the evening you're book checking I did this one, this one and then maybe you find that you managed to achieve five out of ten. The application will give you a streak or a percentage. Let's say maybe your productivity is 50%. So we are just pushing at least people to be productive. Okay. So you need to be more productive. It keeps you accountable. Yeah, accountable for your own deeds. Even deeds or your own plans. Interesting. So how did you come up with the name space up? Okay. The reason, if you see it's just a conjunction between space and up. The reason for that, I chose space in that anything is just a space. For a barbershop it will be a space. For an UD it's just a space. For a public office it's a space. For a clinic it's a space. Yeah. For a market it will be a space. Okay. Have you onboarded people already? Is it already functional? Are people signed up for it? Are people using it? Okay. Just at the recent, I think the past weekend I was distributing posters in Jujia. In that for my level you know that the minimal funding I have maybe getting doing something like a massive marketing is the problem. To do the simple and just print posters maybe distribute them within the school give them to a number of barbershop. But remember my side also I have classes. So it's really me with everything over my head. Wow. How do you jangle between all that? You have to be a genius. In the school I do all this. What I can say there is quite a big difference between the center of gravity for maybe physical things and the mind. In that for the mind it's just a virtual and at this point maybe you can be this thing the next time you can be this thing without losing balance. Okay. You are sure. So it's just creating a balance. It's just creation of balance. How did I not try that when I was still in school? The trick is one. You just have to learn maybe to stay awake till around 3 a.m. to 4 a.m. Why stay awake? I think that is the time you will really have the clarity of your mind. Wow. So actually most of the innovation of the in that there are still other things in the kitchen I can say I normally do them between 12 a.m. and 4 a.m. Wow. And then you sleep at 4 a.m. and wake up at what time to go to school? I always struggle sometimes I go to school with some swollen eyes. Wow. I mean for you to come up with something it's real investment. You have to invest two times. It's been harrowing one and a half years. One and a half years is the time you have taken to develop it. Do you have a team? Actually I have worked. I don't really have a team but sometimes when something really needs some attention always I have freelancers. Maybe I get someone. I have actually worked with I think at least six software engineers. There is Denzel, there is Lauren, Manuel. Also we have Osaya, we have Jerome. You self you are a software engineer as well? Ya sure. Okay. Wow. Wow. When I grow up. My dreams are valid. My dreams are valid. But here I am interacting with software engineers who have brilliant minds. It's amazing. So now the operation if someone wants to use the space up should they go to play store, download it, sign up, what's the process like? It's just very simple. Space up is just an 11mb application in that we use the cross platform language we normally call it that flutter. So it's just very lightweight. You can just go there, get the application on Google Play Store and just download it, sign up, then you will choose if you want a service or you want to sell something. So it's just as simple as that. Okay. Is there payment of course? Because now how are you gaining yourself? That is where normally the business side of it comes in. I really wish there was a screen I could have shown you my business model, those slides, everything. We will do it next time. Ya sure. Next time. Let's say maybe in future you are planning, maybe I was telling you this issue whereby Uber charging maybe 25% of your ride. But with space up maybe we can just say for you in that we don't really do a lot of customization. We can say maybe you shall just be paying 200 shilling for the basic plan. Then you just be getting customer for the whole month. The next month you are just renewing something of that sort. For the virtual Q management system in that you are managing yourself. Let's say today you are starting a business or you are already in business. You actually have maybe 100 customers coming in. Then at the end of the day you really have to do maybe the spreadsheet checking this is the amount of money I received. This is what, this is what. The sales management system comes in there. You shall be able to see maybe the total amounts of sales you made maybe I made this amount maybe 10,000 or these people paid. Then you will also get an access to tomorrow's maybe potential bookings. Something of that sort. So for us we shall come in on this point whereby the moment we introduce the booking tokens in that we are moving in a direction whereby some more space up will be a payment system up. So maybe you shall just be having some gas which maybe when you are booking you are just taking maybe one ceiling. That's not really bad. It's just economical and affordable for everyone. I think when ceiling is affordable. Also we have the advertisement. I think the major thing keeping maybe the largest platform in business is actually the advertisement. Google AdMob is just doing ads. YouTube is the same thing. I think it's just a reason that they introduce premiums. Okay. So let me just say one thing. I think people really love to know the impact of space up into the society or onto the society. The hat tells about it. Okay. There is quite a very big impact in that there is first the issue of time saving in that just imagine maybe you are traveling maybe you are stuck somewhere then you check at your nearby clinic maybe it's closed or maybe the service you wanted maybe there is someone expectant or maybe to deliver maybe then reaching there maybe a particular tool is not available to be used. But with space up it so fast you have a solution but you can just first confirm maybe this thing is available before checking there. And this actually germinated from the context whereby you have this issue maybe I really want to take some food at the cafeteria system school and I'm reaching there the food is not maybe it's over something of that sort but from our real time tables of data you can check in maybe this or that is not available. Also actually the big movement is that let's say imagine in Kenya 100,000 people maybe are just queuing in one hour. So the physical queues actually waste a lot of time. So just imagine opting to space up maybe you are saving 40 minutes so just imagine 100,000 times 40 minutes that's 4 million minutes and that is just Kenya alone now I want you to extend that to international level maybe let's us do our motherland Africa that will be quite around a billion minutes and now take it to the global stage that's trillions of minutes very very many so just imagine that time being saved and maybe let's say with the current economical we can equate time and money so if for that trillion maybe someone is generating one trillion that's 40 trillions in maybe one hour so just imagine the GDP growth that's really a big impact it will really yeah on the other side just imagine the impact we shall have on business whereby young people especially the university students who really want to start some business but they don't have maybe enough funds maybe to rent a space but just they can now sell on space up maybe even they don't have those products they just talking with the stores outside school maybe telling them I can get you customers then that person is telling them maybe this product is 3,000 then me I'm telling them maybe 3,200 the moment I already connected to the customer I take the 200 on top so that's actually giving ways of making passive income really a lot a lot I mean that's an amazing model business model and it's an amazing application you have really explained it you've explained it all you've explained it quite well so now and you've said it's already operational so people can use it because before the show started you told me that you've just done an upgrade we are now at version 67 version 67 look at that every day we are just pushing on this look at that I mean it's amazing it's amazing really so what final world do you want to tell people especially to innovators who people have ideas but have given up on them because maybe for one they lack funding and like I need money to get this thing moving or for another reason they don't really believe that it will amount to something though it's a good thing ok, me I'll just tell you the naked truth in that there is nothing really like motivation if maybe today you are motivated the next day you are feeling down so don't really base on motivation but just base on your inner energy if maybe you want to start something just start it with nothing you don't have maybe money the funding to start but just start just do it small just do it at small steps I can say I love that this is usually a thing that I usually go with I learnt from a mentor just start with trembling with fear with anxiety just start no matter what just start and I love that tell people again what to search for when they are searching for the app and your final words this is your camera ok the first thing maybe when you are searching for a space app it's just simple you go there on a space app you'll find but don't put the blank in between then for the iOS devices we shall be I think in less than one month we shall be releasing a version for the iOS devices it will be available on Apple Play Store then actually a space app is just a simple application that can be anything if you are a farmer you want to sell your produce just opt in for a space app you really want to maybe to find some product some services you can also opt in for a space app you want for your business maybe to boom or something promoting your business also choose a space app space app is just something that can be anything thank you wow space app is something that can be everything anything can be it's not everything but it can be anything it can be anything amazing thank you very much everyone for coming and sharing I really appreciate it thank you and we wish you the very best as we also plan on onboarding we need to support our can products like M-Pesa this is going to be big so you better download space app forgive me for my voice space app is the new app linking services and customers it's a simple everything app I think I've gotten that from the tagline but it says it's what space app it's just an app that can be anything you can just customize it to fit your needs alright so that's it that's it and we've had Raymond Kipfromm as our guest taking us through this we'll take a short break and then we'll be back with yet another interesting conversation with Brian Sakwa so stick with us