 Hey everyone, so We have a lot to talk about here. I Truly thought I wasn't gonna have much to say about the switch bro Although I didn't mention we were gonna hear a bunch of information and leaks Rather soon with all the dev kits out there But what's interesting is that what happened in the last? I don't know day and a half or so is a digital foundry came out with you know their own Digital foundry direct which they have turned from being like this once in you know once in a while Podcast unveiling of a bunch of information and do what they are now doing is like a weekly just standard gaming podcast And at the very beginning of their latest digital foundry direct they talk about the Nintendo switch pro new switch New OLED switches they call up because obviously pro is just a moniker. We've tossed out there There's nothing really official that calls it a pro It's just kind of a a way for us to quick reference what this system is You know that we agree on what we're referencing here that you know This is it an upgraded model of switch now What's interesting about the remarks they made and why people started taking them to heart is that digital foundry has actually Been correct about a lot of things with switch in the past from games to the light model to the original switch because Digital foundry is an arm of Euro gamers. So they have real sources That have proven to be correct in the past So when digital foundry says something people tend to take it as fact now What's interesting is that digital foundry didn't present what they said as a fact But people are taking it as such because sometimes in the past digital foundry will Basically create speculation around something that later ends up being true Probably because they don't want to be given information or they're not confident about the information they have yet So they'd rather speculate rather than say hey, we have sources that said x y and z So what did digital foundry say well they essentially said that while yes a 720p OLED screen probably true 4k output Well, I mean technically Tegra x1 can output a 4k signal So, I mean it can output 4k. You're just not getting 4k gaming But it is what it is right like technically they could argue, you know if you want YouTube and 4k You want Hulu and 4k x1 can already do it So maybe that's just what it is and maybe it's just literally Unlocking the Tegra x1 to enable that 4k output because here's what they believe they went off a leak of an operating system from a dev kit That happened last year and was broken down and factually inside the operating system was a reference to a Lula a ULA which is a currently unknown Switch SOC but in the breakdown of a Lula it looks like it is the exact same Tegra x1 With the same 16 nanometer process they have used on the version 2 switch the red box switch and that obviously it is You know similar specs now. What's interesting about that is That while they say they think this is the chip that is being used in a switch pro Basically making the switch pro the exact same system as the current one just with a new screen That kind of set the world a tizzy because none of the rumors line up with this given information and this information was technically Debunked a while ago in terms of it being what the switch pro is but because digital foundry brought it up And because they have some clout behind their name people are all in a tizzy about it Well, we have some debunking information along with actual new info real info not rumors We're gonna start with the rumors and then we're gonna end with the legit info that comes off what NVIDIA is actually doing and is publicly Verifiable it is crazy. What's coming you guys should be really excited because it looks like whether it's the pro or a next-gen switch There is some version of a switch coming at some point that is insanely powerful in comparison to the current switch I I didn't even believe it till I saw it myself, but before I get into that We are giving away a copy of my center rise and to $20 Nintendo switch PlayStation or Xbox gift cards so three total winners this month head on to the description or the pinned comment to enter Let's go. Let's get into this. All right. So first up brainchild is An insider over at recent era and well, you don't have to like recent era brainchild has been verified Not only by the recent era mods, but he's been correct on a lot of stuff in the past He is a VFX artist and consultant and he has had several direct contacts Which appear to be with NVIDIA about their inner workings with different SOC's and different chips He's talked about things beyond switch SOC's in the past But he's been right on everything he's talked about switch SOC's in the past as well But when they're being developed when they're releasing all this stuff so One he has directly refuted what direct digital foundry said saying that hey What they're talking about and what was in that speculated thing that is not the SOC that's in development or in these dev kits In fact logically you would not need new dev kits just for a new screen a New screen would not change anything for Development purposes so to be clear the fact that dev kits are out there and everyone agrees that dev kits is out there Including brainchild that hey look even digital foundry said something about dev kits being out there if dev kits exist Why would they need to exist for the same chipset? Because they might run at slightly higher clocks, maybe Mmm. Mmm. You could just unlock current dev kits for that They wouldn't need new dev kits So yeah, like they could literally just release a new profile that allows for higher class I think they wouldn't need brand new dev kits. So let's get into What brainchild has to say on this and then we're gonna get into some of the factual information We know now based on Nvidia themselves He has stated that the switch SOC specs are actually in flux and this dates back into last year But it is possible the chip has hit taped out mode already or will within the month and You know, you could say this given on the number of third parties that have dev units But he claims that at the time he got this information the chip wasn't taped out yet now to understand what he means by taped out I just want to give you an analogy like taped out isn't something that technically exists anymore deals with magnetic strips and stuff in the past But to give you an idea of what taped out means It's kind of like a video game going gold The video game isn't printed on a disc or cartridge or available in a digital download format for mass consumption I might not even be fully playable on a given system, but the final product is so-called complete So for a chip this would mean the design is finalized and ready for the tools to be made For to go into mass production So essentially the chip itself the design and the specs and everything are finalized and then they're just going to wrap up the tools at Manufacturing level and then begin mass production Bloomberg obviously has previously talked about this about the 720p rigid OLED panel seven inches Also, we know that Nate Drake has put out there that hey look He knows about some exclusive games coming at least one exclusive third-party game and the dev kits exist So these are just some other sources talking about switch pro Zombal or zombie I guess as he goes by who's also an insider has noted that he has heard all dev units currently are not final spec But rather hack together systems with various spec profiles brainchild agrees with this and his people in position Which appear to be at an Nvidia are telling them that dev kits are likely sent out, but aren't final specs So it's kind of like a hey look, you know, he's not 100% sure the dev kits are out there But what he's hearing it sounds like they're definitely out there And it says if that's the case however both Zombal and brainchild are correct and brainchild has nailed all of his SOC stuff in the past It's hard to believe that it's the same take or X1 chip as you wouldn't need to tape that out So digital foundries kind of expectations are irrelevant now to defend digital foundry and that Alula Listing in the OS one thing to remember is Multiple times throughout a given systems lifespan the original chip gets replaced They replaced it once already and the only reason we even know about that replacement and got a red box switch is because of the switch Light if the switch light didn't come out and all they did was just update the chip Which they did originally to stop hacking we went to even got what's called a version 2 switch It would have just happened under the radar and Nintendo would have never said a word about it But because they were advertising the switch light They were able to kind of sneak in and mention that hey we have a version 2 a switch So Alula can be coming real they could they could literally be putting new Tagra X1 chips in the current switch model at some point But it would just be you know updated securities and stuff like that It's not going to be like you know giving you better boost clocks or anything like that So a little I could still be right could still be true It could just be another revision of the same hardware right now made for security purposes again The Xbox 360 had like four or five different chips in it PlayStation 3 had seven different chips We'll see if it or not PlayStation 4 ended up with four different chips. So again, this is not uncommon We usually don't hear about these chip revisions We're only hearing about it because people are really interested in what the switch pro is so they're digging into things that might not have anything to Do with it? All right moving on brainchild does note that while the tape out could be soon It could be as late as early 2022 so it doesn't think it'll be any later than obviously Spring of next year. He just feels it will be sooner because his sources don't really tell him about switch SoC stuff until it's closer to being finalized For logistical reasons if the DLSS rumors are true, which have come from multiple sources a Tagra X1 is Technologically incapable of running DLSS in any form even if they attempted to run it with RT cores Maxwell such Pascal architecture is incapable at a hardware level to work with that technology So any thought that you know, they could use a Taker X1 and attack DLSS on it's just not possible So I think at this point we could just dismiss switch pro is not using a Taker X1 All right brainchild is confident the new SLC will go into mass production in July And this actually lines up with the same timetable that we know the 720p OLED panels are going to mass production So that would actually line up to potentially release this holiday or early 2022 because again It could release late this year Might be more realistic to expect another March 3rd kind of release That's kind of the timetable. We've been working with ever since that Bloomberg article came out Brainchild confirms the info he has flies in the face of any thought process of an X1 plus refresh Instedlings and the native hates claims of 4k in DLSS That's just kind of what we know from brainchild who is basically saying look there's a new SLC in the works All right, it's for switch It is not a Taker X1 dev units are out dev units I don't have finalized specs Nintendo's still playing around with the specs that were playing around with it last year They still might be playing around with it this year And let's get into why they're playing around with it and what this chip could actually be because this is this is crazy so This comes from doctor 81 if you don't know who doctor 81 or doc tray 81 And what however he prefers to be called goes by the dude is a YouTuber that has almost no following and it's kind of sad because he's really good at snooping hiring pages You guys should really check him out link to his channel. You should subscribe to him He's all over these hiring so almost every video. He makes is about a hiring post somewhere that gives info That you know people are just not paying attention to because most consumers and youtubers to be fair are not snooping linked in They're not snooping different websites to try to see what the hell is going on and his information that he finds almost always ends up being Accurate because guess what it's direct information from the actual companies It's not you could speculate from the information, but this is direct information. Okay, this isn't rumors Okay, you get the speculation is one thing, but the factual information is not a rumor So here's where we're getting to non-rumor information. This comes from hiring posts from Nvidia on LinkedIn Holy shit Let me tell you something This is one of the most exciting things I've read about switch pro to date And it is something that really has my heartstrings tingling. I I'm ready to just like learn how to play a violin right now For all the haters out there that are trying to say that this this switch revision isn't going to be anything major So here we go Nvidia is hiring a senior verification engineer SoC system on a chip What's interesting about this position is? It says that you know the position is going to verify the world's most powerful SoC's for use in self-driving cars Gaming consoles and other automated machines is notable It's notable Nvidia doesn't have any other gaming consoles that an Nvidia shield TV which someone might bring up is actually a competitor With the Apple TV that happens to be able to game. They don't consider it a gaming console They don't market it as a gaming console They just say gaming is part of an overall Multimedia faceted device it is directly trying to come give an alternative essentially to Apple TV Which also can game by the way, so Yes, that is that is the target anyways of that they don't call it a gaming console They don't call it a gaming console internally anymore They stopped using the Nvidia shield as a gaming console concept back before switch came out Switch is now factually the only gaming console that Nvidia is involved in production in so this post Naturally has to do with a switch of some type. All right now Okay, so they're hiring someone to to work on an SoC. What what is it? Okay, cool We already know a new so season the work. So what does this tell us? Well the post itself links to a blog post from Nvidia about Orin Orin is tech that is slated to release next year for smart cards already been announced already been announced I want to put this in perspective Orin Oh Orin's a beast. All right So you had the original, you know Parker also take her X1 kind of stuff going on Which the technically Parker's a slightly new model the Pascal model, but whatever then they had the Xavier model Okay, that that is using the Volta GPU something that people thought. Oh, maybe they're using the Xavier model It's been out for a little bit can hit about 1.3 teraflops. You know that that could make sense in some way Although DLSS 1.0 isn't very good DLSS really didn't start mattering until 2.0, which happened on the new ampere GPU line, but here's the thing Orin is a beast. Okay. It has 12 arm Hercules CPU cores. These are some of the best ARM Mobile chip cores available. Okay, 12 of them switch currently uses four cores on some really old arm processors So imagine newer arm processors the Hercules version 12 cores that is what Orin runs Orin also uses an ampere IGPU that's their latest 3000 series of graphics cards, although this is obviously a mobile version So it's gonna be cut back. We don't know the number of cores or any of that We do know Xavier was 512 CUDA cores Parker was 256 The one in switch was around the same before it was cut back. So yeah, it's it's gonna have a lot of CUDA cores We just don't know how many the NT8 DL tops is 200 tops on this Xavier was 30 Parker didn't really have any at all It's more of a newer technology the manufacturing process for Orin seems to be seven nanometer possibly eight If Samsung's making the chips could be eight because they have a eight nanometer process with seven nanometer process does exist So they're saying it's being made with that and as a TDP of anywhere from five watts to 65 watts now the chart you're seeing says 45. It's a bit out of date 65 watts is typically what's listed right now 65 watts is the top end So you're gonna get the full 12 cores at full clock speeds the full IPG IGPU at full clock speeds at 65 watts now It's notable the Nintendo switch itself doesn't use 65 watts. Okay, the Nintendo switch does 10 watts in portable 15 watts when docked All right, so that's where you get the cut back at 10 the more powerful switch at 15 And even that's cut back from what the Taker X1 is technically capable of so what's gonna happen here? Well, well, what's this saying this hiring post is essentially saying NVIDIA is working on an Orin IGPU and Orin Tegra chip for Nintendo switch and smart cars and all that as well and with a smart car version comes out next year Here's an interesting part to kind of make this all the more to because people are gonna say this isn't possible One because it's the latest and greatest tech and when does Nintendo ever use the latest and greatest tech? Technically at the time that they decided to go with the Taker X1 in 2015. That was the latest and greatest tech Yes, it wasn't the latest and greatest when it came out in 2017 But it was the latest and greatest from NVIDIA basically at that point There was there wasn't a point to upgrade at that point to the Parker chip. It wasn't that much better So in the end that was the latest and greatest from the partner that they had made at that time So here's the deal Well, Nintendo usually doesn't go for the cutting edge. Here's what we know Okay, they are factually hiring someone to work on Orin for a gaming console the only gaming console they have is switch They are not by the way switches and gonna get 12 CPU cores. Okay, that's not gonna happen It's gonna be cut back that member that that 12 CPU core maximum GPU stuff maximum CUDA cores That's a 65 watts. It's still gonna have a 10 watt profile in portable mode It's still gonna be a 10 watt profile, but at 7 nanometers I mean you could be talking as much as eight cores They could easily double the core count of the current of the current switch and run it at better clock speeds Because they're on a smaller nanometer process, which has better heat dissipation Okay, in addition to that, obviously, you're not going to get you know, the full GPU cores They're gonna cut that back at 10 watts Significantly, but are you gonna get double triple what's available currently on switch? Oh Easily, maybe even quadruple. Okay That's a 10 watts. Now in dot mode. Who knows that's up to the Nintendo and how well their cooling is if they go with a Vapor chamber cooler style, which by the way, you guys think it's only like Xbox it does it most phones these days are using vapor chamber cooling It's very efficient. So if they go with an updated cooling design, and we don't know if they're gonna do that But if they did, I mean they could push the chip in dot mode from 10 watts to 20 or 25 and That could lead to even bigger boost We don't know this for sure. Of course, that's just pure speculation We just know that Oren is a chip currently in the works for switch and Oren is Significantly better now. There's gonna be talks about how there's a chip shortage, right? There's a silicon shortage How the hell is Nintendo gonna get all these new chips made during a chip shortage during a silicon shortage? Well, I have news for you Factually silicon is being prioritized for chips that are going into cars Okay, that's such as the fact this Oren GPU is going into cars next year the Oren GPU or the Oren chip the Orategra chip is Factually being prioritized with silicone at manufacturing Switch doesn't need the top tier Oren chips Oren chips are going to have a a Creation rate that's going to have a bunch of chips that are bend their chips that are just not good enough to meet the spec For the smart cars they are going into okay. That happens across the board. This happens at 3,000 series 6,000 series from AMD CPUs there's always They have this target that they have to hit performance wise and they don't always get there those chips aren't just tossed in the Garbage often that's when you start to get lower tiers of the chips released Nintendo is on slate once they finalize what they want the targeted specs to be to get the runoff chips from the car Manufacturing so you can make oh we have this chip that's targeting certain specs and certain stuff At the top end for cars this chip doesn't hit it We bin it and it could go to switch as long as it could hit switches target That is what we're talking about here if switch is using an Oren chip that's being prioritized in manufacturing already That's a benefit to switch to not fall behind in manufacturing Now it doesn't mean they're going to be getting as many chips as the smart cars get They get the priority because the car manufacturers have bigger contracts with these chip makers But it is important to note that using the same chip that they are also putting in smart cars It's going to give Nintendo some priority in the manufacturing line for some of the runoff chips So that's that's very important here. Also Dr. Trey 81 did it again and discovered another hiring post at NVIDIA And this is for a next-gen consoles tool engineer So specifically hiring someone to make a next-gen Console tools for developers to use these are the tools that enable developers to take advantage of the hardware and This happens, of course, we know there's a new SOC We know there's new hardware always in development Of course, they need a tools engineer to make the tools usable for actual developers on these new chips But here's the thing the interesting part is it says it's a graphics profiler Featuring NVIDIA GPUs enabling developers to achieve higher and more consistent frame rates So one of the primary jobs is to take what this chip they're making and enable people to get better frame rates out of it DLSS anyone which increases frame rates Remember DLSS 2.0 isn't like a magic brush fix at the moment It needs to be patched in to different engines But NVIDIA said they are working on a way for DLSS to have an impact on games Even if the engines don't support it and one impact it could have is increasing frame rate Even if it doesn't give the resolution bump Without developers having to do anything but obviously have the frame rate unlocked Even locked it could help it like hit that locked frame rate This is exciting stuff guys. This is what I'm talking about where switch stuff is not stopping So what can we grand take away from all of this NVIDIA is factually working on an orange chip to be used in a switch They are making game development tools for that orange chip dev units do exist in the wild But are not final spec. They are still messing around with spec profiles on it These likely could be orange chips in these things just with different spec profiles Nintendo trying to lock down what specs make sense for the price point They want to hit with the chips and the power delivery in the battery life, right? There's a lot of factors in play here where Nintendo needs to narrow down what they want They likely don't want less battery life than the current switch Are they willing to put a bigger battery in there's a whole lot of considerations here and obviously target price points Is Nintendo willing to go up to 399 if they're willing to have this at 399 leave the current switch at 299 and the switch 200 that gives them three distinct price points with three distinct different types of markets They could be hitting where pro is going from the more premium market And all that jazz now a lot of you guys might be wondering why does this matter? Shantara for a kawa if you guys recall we talked about this He put out there that he wants to do something different that Nintendo Nintendo has a history of having these massively successful systems and then nose diving off a cliff And he wants to avoid the nose dive He doesn't want to sit here at the peak of the switch and just rest And not just rest with game development Just rest in general and let the momentum go away switch has all the momentum right now But that momentum isn't gonna last forever and he knows it He knows there's always been a cliff And then the the nintendo falls right off it and then has to somehow come up with a new platform That tries to rebuild them back up. He doesn't want to have to do that He wants to keep nintendo relatively stable at the top in a similar fashion that sony has done with playstation Where playstation always seems to end strong with their sales heading into next gen now I am of mine that when people talk about this ornate chip It could be for a next gen switch. It might not even be for the switch pro. I don't know But here's what I do know It's possible that nintendo Isn't looking at switch as a finite next gen switch a switch to a switch three It's possible that what should in turn for a kawa means by not letting switch fall off a cliff Not letting nintendo sales fall off a cliff is that they're just going to have a continuous ever-evolving situation like cell phones switch pro Switch two they're never going to call it A new switch like they might call a new nintendo switch But you know they're not going to call it like a new generation of switch, you know, this is the next generation switch You're not going to hear them use the terms next generation You're going to hear them use terms like premium or You know for people with 4k TVs 4k switch you're going to hear them use marketing terms that say we're not replacing the older switches But we are giving you something new and keep doing this iterative process every four years That could keep switch relevant for 10 15 years and lead to 200 300 million sales in the entire switch family and lead to the most successful gaming console or handheld Whatever you want to consider maybe both Definitely the most successful hybrid, but there isn't really that many hybrids out there of all time That's what nintendo is looking at right now And that is a very exciting prospect for the future So shinter for akawa is going to have a different strategy than awada had a different strategy than kimashima had He's going to have his own business strategy where he says look I've seen this. I've been at nintendo 20 plus years. I've seen the cliff too many times Let's stop the cliff And the best way to do that is During the peak years of a platform get something new out there Get something new out there. That's what sony does with the slim Again, they did it with the light. That's what sony does with the pro again switch pro And why have a playstation 5 or a switch 2 why cut off people? Don't cut them off slow transitions Keep it going keep the momentum Make it so og switch owners. Maybe they don't want a pro or maybe they want the new system that comes out in two or three years for now You see what i'm saying nintendo's positioning themselves and all of these new socs the dlss the 4k the Orange chip that's factually now in the works for switch This is all a movement Towards nintendo creating a more iterative system not a yearly system not even in every two years But every three four five years something new coming out Which feels like a traditional console cycle actually more like every three years because you look at switch lights So probably every three years Having some sort of new system come out that just keeps the switch family going until a point that people are no longer interested in switch And will that point ever ever come to realization? I have no idea for now 720p OLED possible orange chip in the future 1080p OLED whatever's next after orange Or maybe an orange chip that's not as cut back I'm just saying The future's bright Now this is a lot of information Really long video i'm gonna let you guys sit there and digest it I'm still digesting it myself I didn't realize i was gonna have this much switched off to talk about today until i woke up So you guys have a good day, and i'll catch you in the next video