 Thank you, and now we are I suggest we open to a few questions from the room. I Know we're late, but I Am a sheet I'm a sheet read from Israel. I Enjoyed to listen it to you. It's very encouraging To see that really there is a chance to change the situation of the world in the future I'm glad also as well that it's funny that the president of Brazil had lost the election. Yes now. Maybe they will stop the destroying of the Amazon Forest which contribute a lot to the quality of life. I wonder if you hear about some of the Some of the methods that now are checked in Israel by high-tech people They think that it is possible maybe to develop things that will absorb The carbon from the air I don't know how and how in which way but they think about some kind of way that they can really Absorb the carbon from the air and by that they will reduce strongly The situation will change the situation for best time I'm wondering if you heard heard about it or you know something about it. Thank you Yeah, very quickly because I can be a very long conversation around director capture technologies, but we have a Company in the West Coast and they're working on project like that Which is a basically biomimicry and copying nature and by using material that have the ability to transform and to capture Carbon out of the air. So yes, there's a lot of innovations that feel it's in the early stage of I'd say Science but it's there's a lot of investment in this stage Yeah Just to make a comment that as a Brazilian I'm very happy that Lula won as well and that we have a little bit more chance with the Amazon forest and And it's interesting when you go to meetings about Cement producers in the UK and they are mainly talking about the possibility of carbon capture And that's very fundamental for that industry as well Yeah, I know that there are some technologies out there, but there is a lot to be developed still on that front as well We know you wanted to add something Yeah, I just wanted to add one comment Which is general to what to everything we are developing here is that even if you look at new technology You still need to produce materials to make those technology efficient So this kind of huge vacuum cleaner that can capture CO2 will use a lot of Minerals to be built this kind of ceramics or their likes from what I've learned about these technologies And we still have the issue of the raw materials We need to be more circular because to build those huge Use vacuum cleaner. We still have the issue of what we do with the waste We are generating today. So we need to address the circularity reduce our consumptions of all materials and those ceramics They need to be mine. It's a lot of issues also when you are mining the ground If our iPhone so our telephones if you are Samsung lover They they weigh only 500 runs, but actually if you were carrying them is what the waste you have generating There will be tens of kilos Thank you for this fascinating panel. I love in particular the biometrics idea They inspiring that nature can teach us how to protect nature The question is the following. I see you combine some regulations and incentives There's a need for money, but I was thinking why not find a circular funding mechanism by that I mean Making sure really what you just said that those produce materials that's going to generate a lot of waste pay for it So including the price of goods the price of waste Ultimately so the what we call in the past the externally to negative So this is something I'd like to have your views on how can we create a self-funding mechanism where the mainstream funds the future? Okay, I'd be happy to answer that so I tried to touch on that just a bit this I would call extended producer responsibility So in the OECD our definition of this is taking the post-use stage and making the producer either financially or Physically in some cases responsible for this and so we have a quite a wide definition of which policies fall into this overall approach But you could think of deposit refund systems You could think of take-back requirements on the producers you could think of financial obligations at the point of production And then we would call this an advanced disposal fee And that these are used quite extensively throughout the OECD I think we have just about all of our members have something in the form of a packaging EPR at the moment But we're also taking a look at how this can be applied to additional product sectors. So plastics beyond packaging We're also considering construction food production and waste and seeing is this something that could be applied to more than just the traditional packaging application And as well, we're looking at what possibility could be done to address more of the Environmental impacts as they occur throughout the life cycle and including this within the producer's realm of responsibility So this is definitely something that we are looking at Thank you for the question Bruno, do you you raise your hand? Did you have any addition to make? Yes, I think Andrew summarizes pretty well The PR the extended responsibility for the producer is one way of collecting Money and if it's done cleverly, so for instance, you put more money to be Taxed when you put a material which is difficult to produce which is producing a lot of CO2 and very difficult to recycle Then you are generating extra revenue and foster people to be more clever in their design products Wonderful. So with this, I've seen big signs saying that we needed to stop because I think we are late on schedule in the afternoon We thank you all for your time and your attention and we definitely can continue the discussion over lunch breakfast and in the next days. Thank you. Thank you all Thank you. Bye