 well I see this video and I hear him discussing something that we've talked about before that is Tim Ross you know mister we don't make it rain on yeah and Jesus is the only stripper that I'm in love with that guy I see him kind of giving a rebuttal kind of I really think he's kind of digging in but making making a little bit of concession but really not about the as he says abuse not abusive language I'm sorry that's my that's my word abusive language but strong language that's the word that he used strong language well is it strong no it's not strong language it's not strong language no Gabby this is not prerecorded this is live how do you know because I just saw your comment and said and responded live no it's not I mean this is live so but that doesn't I'm not sure if he made it better honestly I'm not sure he made it better it almost comes across as though he made it worse he gave a kind of past by the way federal times theology federal fear will you stop changing your name will you stop changing your your profile I got used to 699 Baptist you went to every other thing in it anyway how are you brother I'm just messing with you but this kind of a bit laid back and I want to just hear you all's opinion as we go throughout this as well I want to play this and there's just it's just there's a lot of rock there's a lot of wrong with what he's saying even from the very beginning so let me just let me just play it and let's hear what you guys have to say as we as we go through but I have always used strong language in my life both pre-salvation and post-salvation and okay first problem first problem when you say that I've always used strong language and then calling it strong language okay fine strongly we'll go strong what you mean is cussing profanity swearing that kind of stuff you know the stuff that when you were younger you didn't get spanking for get your mouth washed out with soap or you'd have to pay puts we've never did the thing where you put the money in the swear jar no no we ain't got that kind of money to be wasting when we were growing up we had not that kind of money to be wasting there was too much cussing be going on in the house but I'm told I could be wrong but I'm told that according to the Bible says he says this is how he was pre- salvation and post-salvation okay but I do believe it's on the screen my Bible if I'm reading this correctly therefore if anyone's in Christ he is a new creature the old things have passed away behold new things have come that seems to be yeah or get slapped in the mouth if I if I said a cuss word I'm getting yeah I'm getting slapped in the mouth this was back in the day where parents would slap you in the mouth and it wouldn't be a big deal now they you slap a kid in the mouth then they're gonna slap a cuffs on you so you got it when you slap in the mouth you have to do it kind of secretively and you have to do it with such enough force and not force like knock them out but I mean I mean the the emphasis behind it and enough threat to where they know if you even think about calling the authorities I'm slapping you again and slapping them when they when they show up I don't recommend that but we knew enough we knew better not to cuss and again let's just go ahead and dispense with the with the foolishness if someone's gonna say well I do it it's a habit I can't help myself yes you can yes you can one even the non-christian would recognize that you are an intelligent sentient being see the word are you sentient you are intelligent enough you have enough control even without the Holy Spirit to not cuss but especially especially since you do have the Holy Spirit let's just think about this guys when you're looking for a new job you put in a application and you go in for an interview you're not cussing if you get what I would I would say if you got pulled over by a cop you're not cussing but nowadays folks are cussing at the cops just trying them if you if you before the judge getting sentenced you're probably not cussing some of you guys you cuss when you meet your your future spouses would have you so I can't say but if you have a grandma's house unless grandma's cussing it but no there are places where you know that you should not and and you can control it so we can we can not even have to deal with that so saying that what you were before and it's what you did before and dead net at least something about that just so you know what I shouldn't be doing it because it was something that was coming for me to do back then and have never felt a conviction of the Holy Spirit I know some of you are gonna have some seizures just off me saying that well not gonna have a seizure about it but what I will say is this if you never had a conviction by to me and this might be hard for me saying so but it would stand to reason me to me that if a person has no conviction one if you don't have any conviction by the Holy Spirit for cussing you may not have the Holy Spirit or or you're just refusing to hear the Holy Spirit there's plenty of scriptures and we'll look at this in just a second but there's plenty of scripture to talk about the kind of words that come out of your mouth and he's going to address it as though everyone that sends him the passage that talks about it that they're wrong he's right so we ought to do our research okay we're gonna do a research in front of you mister and then let you look and see for yourself now I don't know if he's gonna see it or not who knows maybe he will maybe won't but at least you all will know better this is just not the behavior that a pastor ought to be exhibiting I have sent me scriptures that you think is talking about strong language and profanity and you couldn't be further from the truth so you all can stop sending me Ephesians 429 because contextually I know what it means and Paul is not talking about when he says filthy communication he is not talking about cuss words especially since none of the words that we define as cuss words existed in Paul's day so so now when you talk about one of the dumbest excuses and I'm and I'm sorry I have to say but just a dumb excuse because the words that we use as cuss words today didn't exist in Paul's day well English didn't exist in Paul's day that is absolutely listen that is a stupid backwards dumb ass of 9 ass of 10 ass 11 comment that just makes no sense those words didn't exist back then well Paul didn't mention the words did he he didn't even mention the words what he did was Paul described the words Paul describes a kind of words so you think about what you're saying and let's just go to the passage that you say that we need to do our research on so let's go ahead and go to Ephesians 4 but we're not going to just be in Ephesians 429 we're going to keep reading and let's just see if using these words the three letter words the four letter words I don't know if there's some five and six letter words but you can we've gotten so creative with these cuss words we've strung them together we've made a brand new cuss word it's there's no depth that human beings can go to that can't go to when it comes to just using profanity vile words we've taken we've even taken good words that aren't profane words and made in profane because it's the intent it's what you're trying to do behind what you're trying to convey the vulgarity behind the offensive this and in the last video I made I said socially offensive now does that mean that if we say something that has to do with sin that if they're offended so no but I mean when you're trying to offend someone when your intent your intent is to do so then it fits the category when you're trying to call somebody something to hurt their feelings or to add extra emphasis if your words don't grab their attention just by the words that you're using if you've got to look for cuss words to grab attention then I submit to you that what you're saying isn't much of anything if you have to use cuss words to get your point across then you have no point you have no valid point for sure but that but anyway that being said let's go to Ephesians 429 he says let no unwholesome unwholesome or rotten or as you see below me counterfeit don't let any rotten words or we understand what wholesome is you know Brady Bunch kind of words June Cleaver those kind of words words that they would be saying on TV in 30s or 40s or 50s those kind of words you know g mom gosh mom golly those words those are those are wholesome words what's coming out your mouth blankly blankly but yeah don't let those words come proceed from your mouth but only such a word as is good for edification now the words that come out of your mouth if they're to edify somebody well you can't say well listen I had to call them I had to call them this and this and this and this and this because it was the edifier no it's not calling him a four letter word or eight letter word or whatever these words are that is not for edification best for you to get something off your chest that's for you to give him a piece of your mind I had to I had to lay into him I had to give it to him I had to get that's not no no according to the need of the moment so that it will give grace to those who hear to those who hear so you're saying this to that person but there's other people that also hear including person just saying to but other folks it gives grace to them as well I don't know that anyone's ever like you know what wow he just when he just went to that tirade and blankly blank this and you blankly blank that and you blank and you blank people say praise God I don't think that's what came to their mind when hearing you cuss but continue do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were sealed by the day or for the day redemption don't grieve the Holy Spirit why is that put there well this word here is suppress to kind of hold down do not grieve the Holy Spirit that don't do that and look what he says let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you along with all malice now these are things that are coming out of your mouth and where they proceeding from the heart we'll deal with that just a second be kind to one another tender heart for giving each other just as God in Christ also has forgiven you now continuing therefore be imitators of God hmm all right mister you should be an imitator of God Paul before we continue before we continue Paul says in 1 Corinthians 111 he says some of your version might say follow me as I follow Christ or be imitators of me just as I also am an imitator of Christ so what we're saying what we're doing should be just what would be coming out of the mouth of Christ are you with me so yeah I'm not following you pastor I'm not following me so he says be therefore be imitators of God as beloved children and walk in love just as Christ also love you and gave himself up for I'm sorry up for us and offering and sacrifice of God as a fragrant aroma here we go some more but immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be a named among you as it is proper among the saints and there here it is and there must be no filthiness there must be no filthiness anything that shameful any silly talk foolish talk or coarse jesting which are not fitting but rather giving of thanks so no mr. Ross you got this wrong you have this wrong it would be one thing if you say hey some words slipped out I messed up it's one of the things that I need to work on that would be totally that would be different okay fine I get that you you're messing up in this area okay cool might be a struggle for you I get that even though you do have the ability to control what's coming out your mouth or if you can't control what's coming out of your mouth then shut your mouth that's what I was told if you can't control what's coming out your mouth then shut your mouth see how that works but because you're a pastor it it stands the reason that you should have some self-control because the gift of the spirit is self-control and you're a pastor and so you're supposed to be full of the spirit you're leading people you're leading people you're literally leading people but you're leading people kind of the way the world would lead them let's go back to hear some more what he's saying even though he's wrong already he's wrong on two counts already so this isn't this is not a defense of the words it's just like before you throw a scripture at me please do your research first I guess it comes out this is not a first of all it isn't a defense of yourself you are defending yourself but please please you can you see I did that please please do your research first you do your research mister you do your research lafella do your research there are some things that are just obvious and when it's obvious to even the world if the world if you go before crowd of people who are not safe and you start cussing well what will they say to you they're gonna look at you funny because even to them they know better so again leave the arrogance alone leave it put that somewhere else put that put that in the same spot that you ought to put the cussing it not named among you with that said moving forward we said okay these words are these words are are greenlit if if somebody did take a clip of me processing this on one of the basement episodes and put you know the Holy Spirit told me to cuss well what I'm gonna tell you is that I've never been convicted by the Holy Spirit for using strong language that's all but even more to the point you literally did say the Holy Spirit gave you the green light to go and cuss you literally are saying you have stated that God has told you to use this stuff when talking to certain people you literally said that so one not only are you not sitting now you're saying he's not convicted you which is that there's the problem because you also said that he told you to do so no first of all he hadn't said anything to you at least not that he hadn't said that to you he hadn't said that somebody says what does my shirt Janae says with my shirts it's my favorite shirt it's a comfortable shirt I'm just sitting here listen guys I'm sitting here and I can't tell you how relaxed I am I can't tell you how relaxed I am I mean listen if the cat started meowing if the dog started barking would not bother me because I'm relaxed and I got my good comfortable shirt on it says I am their girl dad and it's got my daughter's name can you all see it Brittany who's the oldest Morgan Hannah and Bailey those my babies those my girls and they know it they take it that these kids y'all pray for me because they take advantage of me they take advantage of me and it's not fair it's borderline not even godly it's just not fair and then I've got grandkids the granddaughters the 12 year old wow she's something my oldest she's having to deal with this 12 year old who is she could you know you know 12 year old they make you want to cuss especially little girls 12 year old girls are different than 12 year old boys 12 year old boys are just dumb 12 year old girls attitude attitude the little boys they're only three in one so what they do is cute but these but the eight year old she's eight year on the 12 year old they need spankings they they might need a good cussing out from grandma my grandma she loves it love the Lord but I beat the blank out you anyway but that's what my shirt says my comfort shirt my comfy shirt so you couldn't you couldn't pay me to cuss I don't know how much you got to pay I'm kid I'm kidding yet he yet he's tween tween girls are there messing some you ladies know you know what it was like when you were 12 attitude and anyway do you remember the first time your parents caught you cussing during the first time your parents caught you cussing see I've always been smarter than my brother you know my brother Chris the dumb I told you guys about my dumb brother he's the dumb brother he's the dumb one of the family he knows he knows it so it's not me talking bad about him he knows his role in the family he's the dumb brother Chris he's bigger than me he's older than me he's my big brother he's a year and a half older than me bigger than me and so he would always pick on me and one day he was just picking on me he was picking on me and my mother was going out with some friends and so she was leaving instructions and me and Chris had gotten into it already and he was just putting his finger in my face and pushed me and and wait to mama leave I'm gonna beat your breath and so he's just cussing up a storm he I mean he's he's pumpkin he really is and this one we have the old tape recorders I slide a tape in close the thing down push the two buttons you know play and record and I just let it just record and Chris is cussing me out all kind of stuff I mean he's going to town I'm gonna hold off on this on this evidence though Chris I'm gonna hold off because as bad as you are right now yeah I think I can use this for the future sometimes you just listen don't be in such a hurry to get your reward and this is gonna be reward so oh I don't know about three four five weeks later I can't remember exactly some little time later Chris was in rare form all right I got your Chris what you gonna do you go you came with me put his finger my face you came with me okay okay I know who can my mom here you go listen to this I mean she beat the living and all those cuss words and he said she repeated them back to him and she had a belt lick for each one of them I think for every syllable that he used yeah showed him cuss if you want to now anyway but did you ever you all get caught your parents ever catch you cussing my I don't think my mother's even heard me to this day cuss I see you GCA yeah yeah that was pre-him though that was my mother's never heard me I don't think she's ever heard me cuss yeah I tried to I tried to keep that away from her but anyway let's go back to the good pastor it's all I can tell you perhaps you have maybe you don't use cuss words publicly maybe you don't even use them privately maybe you don't even use them when you get mad or stub your toe yay you okay I do and not when I stub my toe I use strong language when I have strong emotions about a subject that you use strong language when you have strong emotions about a okay I have strong emotions about a lot of things I don't have to use cussing neither do you neither do you guys that'd be one thing again if you cuss and you like I don't want to do that I don't like it with him I cussing oh well and what the Lord's fine with it yeah you saw that Melissa yay you how about just praise God I'm trying to get there we have a lot of horrible pastors in the world today we really we really do we got a lot of good pastors let me just say that upfront also we've got a lot of good pastors that is not the example and then of course you've got a track record of some other things a pastor should not be this controversial now unless he's just giving the word unless he's just giving the word and the world doesn't like it then and that's controversial that's fine that's fine the gospel is gonna be offensive but it shouldn't be your swear words your cuss words that are also that no don't don't do that there's enough work to do without you adding extra layers of work and problem exactly should be above reproach that no one can blame you for this right now we can blame you for your mouth your potty mouth if a if the three-year-old can't say it if the five-year-old can't say it of course now more and more saying it but then you can't say it I'm talking about and because all language is used to express feelings friends uncomfortable with so if I called you out your name if I called you of this if I called you of that you wouldn't have a problem with it I'm just expressing myself it's all language is used to express feelings I think that you are a blank what would you say you wouldn't have that same attitude you would get upset and then revert to those words that you say that you use in private or that you use in public now he's gonna talk about them doing being in private but still you get upset because those words have something extra to it and he knows that I don't because I still preach in churches I don't want my friends that lead these churches to be trying to defend me well that should tell you something why would your church your friends in church have to defend you because even they know now maybe they're not doing a good enough job of telling you that's a problem you don't defend the person sin go ahead and say hey listen this is wrong don't do that and if you're gonna be doing that well then you can't be in this pulpit listen I love you but I have to love you from distance do what you're doing over there but when you come in this pulpit people are gonna associate this this and this and this with you if they can't associate a changed person a person who's preaching the gospel well then you can't be in this pulpit again another pastor another pastor 3a but now you also put them all aside anger wrath malice slander and here it is abusive speech from your mouth abusive speech from your mouth and the word is filthy speech that's what you ought to do put that away don't call somebody else to have to defend you again you shouldn't be this controversial over and it's really not a big issue it shouldn't be a big issue it shouldn't um to be trying to explain why I do what I do I don't want to send mixed signals and I want to be authentic and honest about my communication okay so you want to be authentic and you'll be honest about your communication well and by the way you are sending me signals you are sending me signals let's just say what Jesus says Matthew 1234 he says you brutal vipers how can you be evil speak what is good for the mouth speaks out of that which feels the heart in other words was in the heart that's what's coming out was in the heart that is what's coming out exactly right exactly right he won't give us he that's the thing you can't give a scripture not only will not give one he hadn't given one but he cannot give one that there's a problem at least have the the slippery snaky-ishness to take a passage and twist it at least at least do what the other false teachers do and give a pass and twist it no you're so slick with it you don't even use a scripture that there's a problem right there you're not even going to use a scripture wow at least Satan will take a scripture and use it and twist it you won't even go that far I don't that's a good thing or bad thing but yeah you haven't given one scripture yet but we know what's coming out of your mouth what you say whether it's good whether it's bad whether it's condemning whether it's this what no matter no matter what it is all of it comes from here comes from the heart what what's in you as I said before when you squeeze a lemon what's coming out whatever's on the inside you would think lemon juice would come out I once eliminated so somebody actually mates eliminate no lemon juice you would think would come out but if someone somehow put some orange juice in there or some apple juice inside the lemon they took a syringe and squirted in there they didn't come out whatever's on the inside that's what we know so what should come out of the inside of a Christian and you're not even being squeezed it's just what you naturally do it should be godliness come out the spirit of God should be coming out I am not repenting to you right now for using strong language I don't have the conviction that a lot of you have that's where I am right now if the Lord convicts me one day in a different way in the same way I'm having this conversation with you I'll have another by the way the Bible does say that if eating me to finish your brother don't eat me from it don't do it if it bothers them then don't do it don't do it it's offensive to you can I say I thought it's always been rich it's always been fun people say well that's just my style that's how I talk well that's your style that's how you talk grow up in the Lord grow up it's not about personal preferences it's not about what this is how I talk no grow up if what you're saying is offensive well then you should be smart enough you should be godly enough to use words that aren't offensive you don't have to use strong language as he says or abusive language or vulgar language to get your point across again if you do so you have no point you are still a child with just gray hair or no hair or what have you with extra layers of fat you are still a child because you have not grown up the difference between an adult a grown person and a child is maturity how they are emotionally if your emotions cannot be kept intact though you have reached an age of adulthood at least legally spiritually speaking emotionally speaking you have not if all you can do is insult if all you can do is use strong words or you have to every other word then your word don't matter and I'm saying everybody everybody should discount everything that you said until you can get a hold of your tongue then in with all due respect in Jesus name shut up because it might even reveal that you're not saved you might be using the banner of being saved but you're not why because your mouth betrays your heart your mouth is telling us what's in your heart sometimes is good to just shut up shut up in the name of Jesus because you're condemning yourself and you're hurting other people that's the problem you this this this is this is a discussion that teenagers are to be having in their studies that young adults should be having in their young adult studies with their young adult pastor what had not a senior pastor not the lead pastor not a pastor not someone of his age he's a few years younger than me so you should not best should not be the case little fella I called a little fella because I know he's you know he's on the shorter side which is fine he's younger than me I can call him that he he has not reached by his 50s yet he's still he's still a youngster in his 40s but the point is and of course he might find that offensive and if so then I apologize and I apologize but you ought to be able to say what you want to say without cussing I think I can make my point without cussing if I cannot use my words in a proper first of all you've been speaking English all of your life so you should have a good firm grasp on the language you should have a good firm grasp on it you should be able to know how to use it and you speak for a living you speak for a living and so you should be able to take this word and put in this word you should guess what you can take your phone you can go on on on the Google the Google meter and ask mr. Google hey what's a word what are a synonyms for this word what's an antonym for that word did there's sending in anthem see I promise you younger folk or if you got kids that are in high school or junior high tell them to pay attention in English class that stuff actually shows back up have you ever seen a person just use a word just just incorrectly and we just say we say some stuff like wow did your mother and daddy teach you that did you teach that what's going on how did you how did you string those words together no one caught you yet how you've been doing it for 30 years well English matters but if you are a professional speaker you get paid for speaking people pay your people bring you in to hear what you have to say well then fix your craft work on how you say stuff without having to use cuss words if you went if they you know what and that's a good point that is a good point seeing in broadcasters who are in the world can still go on the air without cussing yet some Christians think they are browning points by doing so yeah you know I don't get that you you don't you don't get any any cool points because you cuss no one's looking for you to be like them they're looking to you to show them how to not be like they already are that's just that's just that's a problem we have that's just a problem that we have we shouldn't we should not be like the world we should be different holy separate set aside we should not look like them they should strive to look like us but again you call Jesus a stripper so we got that to deal with also is that moving forward from this day moving forward I will not be using strong language publicly I will not be using it on my on my platforms I will not be using it in any interviews I have whether it's the basement or whether I'm a guest on somebody else's podcast it's just not worth it I don't I love the church and I love my friends churches that I preach in and I don't and and and I love the body of Christ and I don't want to be a I just say I love God too much but now we're going forward I ain't gonna I'm not gonna be using strong language strong strong language I'm not I'm not using strong language in public but at home I'm a cuss of blankly blank out blankly blank this and blank blank that yeah try me and see I give you a piece of my blankly blank mind you blankly blank blank so no Angela he's not being convicted no he's not what he is is he's giving a defense and he's saying that I don't want them to have to defend me anymore what they should not give them give them a you that doesn't need defending I'm just gonna cuss I'm a cuss of a storm I like Martin I cuss people out no you don't don't do that don't yeah he's worried about his image Byron he's worried about his image but nothing is hidden that will not become evident nor anything secret that will not be known and come to the light so you're going to steal you're going to steal cuss in private eventually it's going to wait work is way in public so are you saying I just want to cuss when I know the cameras are facing me so there's going to be a secret you private you that's not like the public that no let the private you be the same as the public you and vice versa so what what do you guys think are am I being too harsh I don't think I was being harsh I'm not as harsh as I could have been because I could have been harsh and use those choice words right I could have been harsh and use some four letter words and some seven letter words or what have you strong some man I could have been that kind of harsh strong language because I'm getting emotional right here I'm getting emotional and I could have used some of his words no not gonna do that not gonna do that cuz again I I remember hearing someone say that you should be smart enough to use words that aren't cussing that are offensive I should be able to pick out some words that don't involve these other words that require a little beep that's just being mature so I can have a conversation do you think as impassioned as Jesus was and he was pretty impassioned do you think that he was using cuss words no no matter who wanted to guess it Peter I'm pretty makes you wonder if Peter did makes you wonder if Peter did but Peter never glorified it Peter never said yet matter of fact Paul Paul used some choice words sometime Paul used he he he he engages in name-calling I don't know if that would if that would be categorized or considered profane or what have you now he did to the world but he also he also told us not to use these sorts of words so no one is making excuses but him just say it's something I struggle with or you know I can see that I can see that's wrong even if it's not as wrong as you might think is let's say he's right he's not right though he's not right but let's say he were and everyone else has the there's a stigmatism of those words in society then you should have enough wisdom enough care about your fellow man about the body as you said your friends but even more so about Christ because what do we want to do whatever we eat whatever we drink whatever we do we want to give it all to the glory of God why because we don't want to give an offense or be an offense to the Jews of the Greek we're in first Corinthians 10 31 down 32 but the reason why we do so we do so so that others might be saved and brother Tim if cussing can get in the way of people's faith if cussing can be a thumbwink stone then let's not do it do everything that you do do it to the glory of God I don't think I'm pretty sure you have to correct me email me text me call me whatever get in touch with me to let me know if cussing if you can cuss to the glory of God I don't think you can and so until then just let your words be seasoned with the Holy Spirit amen