 So my microbiology heroes are two, actually. Evojina Nikaido is my graduate advisor in UC Berkeley. They studied maltose transport in his lab. I had a great time. It was an amazing instructor and an amazing scientist. He discovered the porines and a unique man, a man that actually loves classical culture to such extent that he actually learned classical greek in order to be able to read Homer's Odyssey 24, so volume in the text. My other hero in science is Stanley Falco. He has left a legacy in science and in terms also of the people that he trained about a hundred or so post-doc and grad students who now are in leadership position throughout the world, but not literally in the US. Stanley discovered Plasmid. Our Plasmids are mediating the transfer of antibiotic resistance between bacteria, but he also had a human dimension that was unique and that's why he's so, he's very much of a legend in the field of microbiology. His lab was highly sought after and I was very privileged to be in his lab. He has also a sense of humor that was unequal. So those are my two heroes and I am very privileged to have been, to have encountered these two, two great scientists, really larger-than-life type of personality.