 Hi and welcome again to Let's Talk Tachlas. Thank you so much for spending your time with us. Before I introduce and talk to you about the podcast we just concluded, I want to really, really thank you for the so many comments, emails, positive criticism and so much heart that we got back from so many of you for our previous podcast and for the one before. It's really validating the reason why we are doing this podcast. We want to be here for Klalesul, so many parents reached out to us, so many fathers, mothers, so many kids, boys and girls reached out for help, for guidance and this is really filling up the void that we have in this world and we're trying to make it the world a better place and a happier place. So really, really thank you for your input and for being such loyal listeners and viewers. As I told you, we just concluded an amazing podcast with a unique human being. You'll get to know Moeshe Maskov very soon. A person that went through in life so much agony and so much pain, physical and mental but does not let life stop and for one minute the man is full of life, full of fire, full of positivity, the happiest guy in town and it's so refreshing to connect with and be in touch with such a person who is taking life and grabbing it and making sure that every day and every minute of his life is positive and productive. So thank you again for joining us and enjoy the podcast. Hello and welcome to Let's Talk. Thank you so much for joining us. Today we have again a beautiful, amazing guest and like I always tell you, our guest you get to see by the end of the show during the show, why they're so beautiful and why they're so amazing but today the word amazing is really, really part of the equation. I have the honor and pleasure to interview my dear friend Moeshe Maskovitz. Hello Moeshe. Hello, how are you? I'm great, great having you in the studio. Thank you. You know why I brought you in here all the way from Lakewood? I have no idea. I also don't have an idea. Let's try to make it, let's try to make an idea over here. Let's do it together. Yes. So Moeshe is a very happy, jolly, effective and active human being but the reason it's a hit is that Moeshe is such an active human being is because Moeshe's first half of life was not that active, not that smooth, not that stable and even though he went through many difficulties which you'll hear about soon, he's determined to be super duper happy. Is that right? 100%. So let's cut straight to the chase and we'll share with our audience who Moeshe Maskovitz is. So what's going on? Everything is great, Berksham. So I gotta say that you are wrong actually. My first half of my life has always been happy. I've always been happy. Thank you for correcting me. Correct. I always had a happy life, an amazing life. I grew up in an amazing family. I had a fantastic family. So first of all, thank you so much for bringing on your show. It's an honor and it's a beautiful way of you bringing out people to your show. It's very nice to bring out the better of people, to show people what they're all about and to show people how to make other people better. Yeah, but why did I have the impression that the first half of your life was not so good? Something just flew by my mind that you had a hard first half of your life. Can we say hard but happy? Maybe to correct it. Challengable. Okay. I'll get straight to the point. I did some research and Moeshe was born to his happy and amazing parents with a small tiny medical condition to begin with. Should I interrupt you again? Yes. Okay. So let's start about a bit. Okay. So Moeshe was a happy camper. He was born. And he was born in 1988. Moeshe was born to a beautiful family. His father and mother. I would say 1994. His father started getting cellulitis. A lot of hardships. A lot of, he had to give up his job. He had to give up a lot of, a lot of, the financials didn't go so well. So from there he went through, from there a lot of things went, like we would have called it sour. Downhill. Downhill. But about Bokhashem in my house, I didn't feel ever downhill. Bokhashem was a very happy house. My father unfortunately suffered a lot. Really suffered. Mama Shalat. But my father was always a happy person. A real happy person. But he went through surgery after surgery after surgery. So from the feet and went up to a lot of places to his body. Of course I was, I went to my, I went to, went through my, my, my, my, my elementary years. And everything was nice. And then he never felt at home. That's what's called. Unfortunately my father went to the house for a lot. So basically I look at it myself, I think more dramatic, but unfortunately it's not dramatic. I grew up in a way in the hospital because my father was a lot in the hospital. So it was very, very, very, it was a dramatic experience. I guess I will say that. But it was a very happy, an amazing family. My mother never made it feel like a house of, like, I never, I never did a house. My house was always the most warming house ever. If you ever ask anybody from the Masquots family, Butterpark, meaning whoever do our family, the most open house, the most warmest house ever. My mother always cooked for people in the hospital, almost cooked for everybody. But my house was always the pride of this house. My house was there. That's why such products came out from this house. My house was always the pride of this house. Moving up the ladder, like we say. Unfortunately when I was 15, basically my mother started not feeling well and we didn't know exactly what's going on. She was very, very weak. But I started doing testing and stuff. So she went to the doctor. The doctor diagnosed with lymphoma and the lymph nodes. And basically was pretty, was pretty fast. Your father was still alive? My father was still alive. My father was unfortunately the sick one. My mother was still alive. My mother was still alive also. So I went to basically, my mother was diagnosed with halemoid sickness and you'd guess that she passed away. So back to the discussion in the beginning that you wanted to say in the first part, that when she was a kid and was born with something, so I'll tell you the story. I was, there is a thing that's called Blanc's disease, which the disease is sometimes discovered when you're born. Are you born with it? Or if something could be discovered but later on in certain ages. So I was, I mean it was discovered later on. Meaning, meaning when, when you, how old were you? I was about age 12. So basically I couldn't have surgery from age 12, because from age 12 to 15, it's a growing spur. What is this condition? So sometimes what's called, it's, it's, it's, it's instead of the bones going upwards, it goes sideways. Bow leg. Correct. It's supposed to be from obesity. It's supposed to be from this, but me it was both. So basically they take the bones, they crack it in half, make it grow again. As I saw online, now that what's called, it takes faster to recovery, but by me, what's it called? A few hundred years ago. About 20 years ago. Okay. What's it called? If you did both legs together, it took four to six months to recovery. I mean it's, you didn't feel anything wrong with your feet. You were, I was always a wild kid. I was always having a good time. I was always big. So your medical condition was not obvious to anyone? It was obvious. But my mother, what's it called in a way? He said he's having a good time. Nothing is bothering him. But as the time went on, it got worse and worse and worse. So back to the discussion. My mother passed. My mother was diagnosed. She passed away. So basically my mother, my mother went with all the doctors, my mother, everything. She booked all the surgeries, everything. Everything was beautiful, nice and dandy. And for a moment, everything was taken. Not everything was taken. My mother was taken. So you had to deal with a mother who passed away, a father who was very sick, and your own little peckle. It goes way back. It was, it's actually pretty, in a way pretty scary that I had to go through this. It goes that my mother actually, as you can see what I told you before, is that a week and a half before she passed away, I was in Yeshiva. I didn't even know how sick she was. She, for some reason, she was very, very weak. She was in the hospital still. She was in the hospital. She actually called the Yeshiva phone. Where did you call your cell phone? You tell me. Yeah, she was taking a suitcase with her. It was a cell door cell phone then, but it was as big as the payphone. I didn't have a filter. So basically, so she gave me, she called the public phone. Wow. Remember the public phones? Sure. They died? No, no, no. That was the grandma. Fancy. That's fancy. Basically, she called actually the public phone and she told me she wants to speak to me. I was like, what's going on? So basically, I took the next bigger toilet bus, one bigger toilet bus. I walked in and she sat herself on the bed. She tells me, she said, she said, Moisey, as you can see, I'm not looking the best, but you're my youngest and you're my charm. A 15 year old boy, the sick father has to process such a conversation. Knowing that he's going to have to come up with his own, with his own surgeries and stuff. Really in the back. In the back pocket. It was not easy, you know. Wow. Hi, let me stop for a minute, please, our interview. I want to talk to you a minute about subscribing to this podcast. Subscribing is not a punishment. It's a treat. We're not going to go to the FBI. We're not going to go to the IRS with it. All we're doing by subscribing, when you subscribe, it takes one second to click about and then subscribe. You are making it easy for us to send you right away, the podcast, as soon as we publish it, as soon as it's ready. Whether on YouTube or on other forms, it takes a second and that's all it does. And I'm really thinking, how come we have so many tens of thousands of viewers, we appreciate you all so much, but you only have a thousand to eleven hundred subscribers. So you need a treat. I'm here to announce that whoever will subscribe as of now, you know what will include the previous subscribers also. We're going to raffle about two weeks, three, two, three weeks after the the podcast. We're going to raffle a hundred Amazon gift card for the subscribers. So let's go and do it. We want to be in touch with you. How did you first recover basically from the shiver? How was the shiver? Was it, was it? It's so funny. After leaving my mother's bedside, I made a few close ones, whatever. It's just everybody says, eh, she's not going nowhere. She's okay. She's just, she's just some pills or whatever. I'm like, yeah, yeah. I am, ain't no whatever, you know, but whatever. I saw the reality. It's just, ain't easy. It was a lot of process. It was a snowstorm that went by, you know, in the meaning it was like a snowstorm, but the storm and the snowstorm. Yeah, but it's not easy, you know, even easy. And who was there to give you a chisg by the shiver and right after the shiver? Your father was. My father was a great father. My father was always there for us. For me, I had, my brothers were a very tight family. They really are a very tight family, but all these organizations were not around then actually. It's like, there was no families. There was no statuses. They did have these therapists to talk to, but to be honest, what you call this, I wasn't at the moment of focusing of the grief. I wasn't focusing as much of the getting the help of more focusing of the shock because my mother was always dear when I coming, going to the shiva, coming home, seeing my mother sitting there with supper ready. It was hard to process. It was really hard to process. You know, having fresh food at the table, being asking you how he day was and having open home all the time, that was hard to process. Stopped. That's why when I always hear these stories about mothers and any parent just passing away, I can relate to it and just, it's not easy. Even though I have this blockage, I do have this blockage that I can show emotions about in a way, you know, when you lose parents, you do have a certain kind of blockage that you can't show that certain emotion anymore. But when I do find the person, the loser parents, I do take, I do have a lot of times I take a kid or somebody in the side, I do talk to that kid. Especially when you had your own medical pack to deal with. Yeah, I had to focus on that. I couldn't focus too much on my mother. I couldn't focus too much on, I couldn't, plus I lost my grandmother six months beforehand, which is her mother, which is what she was also very dear to me. Yeah, I lost very close, I lost two very close people in my life that year. Unfortunately, we have to continue because we want to hear the rest of the main story. A lot of main stories. Yes. So moving forward, I so cold, I went to surgery. And it was in Monsigny, thanks to the B.C. Tversky and Division Cereba. You're not calling him my name anymore. Division Cereba from A.C. Swood. That's correct. Thank you. Yes. Wow. He helped us. He helped on my, my, everybody in my family. They were always there for us. Special people. So they guided you through into the surgery process? Yeah. Yes, he got me, he, he got me especially, he pushed actually the doctor to make both legs at the same time. That surgery actually, nobody wanted to do it. That doctor, he pushed the doctor to actually do, even though, well, go on, but, but that surgery took 13 hours. Yeah. So he actually made the doctor do it, both surgeries at one time. Today in 13 hours, you conquered the world. Yeah. You do a lot of stuff at 13 hours. Exactly. Wow. But yeah, he actually made a doctor take those, take, make both surgeries at one time. Can you quickly show, describe what the surgery does and what happens right after the surgery? Not actual physical surgery, you said before. Should I do it right now on the table? Yes. By the way, your feet are good, right? We'll talk about that later. Okay. There's a lot of latest on our plate. I know. We'll make episode two. So far it's very entertaining. So sadly, it's entertaining. But I know there's happy streaks behind it. Of course. So I read a little, I read up a little bit. So this surgery is quite a difficult surgery, besides the amount of time. And like you said, the breaking the bones and the re... It's gonna be a bone. To be honest, I did not do too much research before I came because... I did. You did? You did? Oh, good. I like to be, I like to share with our audience things in an educated way. Good for you. So... My father had an heart attack, unfortunately, but he had to have open heart surgery. So in the hospital, there's such a thing that there was a social worker, right? So my father, I guess, mentioned to them that he has to have open heart surgery. He didn't know where to put me. So I guess, I don't even know why not call us. I didn't even know exactly what happened. I had one brother that had just got married. I had one brother that had young children that would take me in, whatever. My father, I guess, got from them recommendations and stuff that there's a place that's called the New York Funding Hospital, which is a funding hospital. Basically, so my father signed me up to go there. Parked him, man. But he didn't park me in. He could always take me out. Parked me long term wise. Yeah. So basically, he parked me in. And it was a Christian hospital. So it was... So basically, I booked him from Yashiva, I booked him from Yashiva, knew whatever, and lost his mother. Lost his mother. As a sick father. His father's going to have to go through open heart surgery. He's going to go to a Christian hospital. A few months. More than a few months. Ended up being actually eight months. Basically, arriving there, getting there, a bunch of crosses all over. My father and I better not know. I feel so bad. I feel so bad. But he had no choice. But he didn't even see the building, anything he even saw. He saw the building, but I didn't think so. He ran over there, getting in there, the only two over there, the only kids. Nobody even knew about Judaism, to be honest. There's actually one... But one plus, it's a great rehab. They were doing a great rehab. Exercise therapy. It was great. The therapists over there were great. The doctors over there were great. Just a lot of interesting things that a 15 year old Yiddish Shabukhah, that's supposed to say. I would say that Shabukhah for that 15, and that's supposed to be, I guess, learning, you want to say, in a lot of ways. It went from whatever. It went to whatever. Were you able to keep a little Yiddish kind of feeling? To be honest, I did do as much as I can. In a way, I was in the year from my mother also. So I actually had Adorama photo around the corner. So I had this very, very wonderful special lady. I wouldn't give her a shout out because she's going to be very upset about it. But I'm a good friend of my mother's actually. She was part of the human resources over there. She did the... What's it called? Hiring stuff like this. Hiring. She did actually overseas. She was the translator, not human resource. She translated for everybody over there, meaning people that didn't speak English, spoke on the phone, whatever, blah, blah, blah. So she actually... One, she tried kicking me. Plus, some other people came to pick me up once a day to... Maybe once a day, which I didn't want to go either. So I tried going. How are you mobilizing? No, so I had a special waiting coming out of bed. Wow. I had a special, excuse me, bathroom to go. But yeah, they created a bathroom special for me. And I believe in this process. There's a lot of weight on your... Yeah, it's called external fixings. It's very popular here. Everybody, people should know. People know about that. So wow, it's an amazing part that this woman, some other people in Adorama helped you keep the youths out. And the Kurdish process for your mother going, even though you're in such a place. I'm sure the difference between calling Kurdish big day and coming out was also really shaking you up. Yeah, it was a very nice relief coming out of the rehab center, what's it called? Oh, definitely every day. If I wasn't in the mood of going, it was not easy because I had no patience either way. And it's also physically very hard. Plus, what's it called? The situation with my father was not getting better. He had open heart surgery and middle of the open heart surgery. He actually had a stroke. So it was actually kind of a knockdown for me also, like getting down. So knowing my father suffering in the hospital like that, not knowing that he's going to survive or not, they had to actually keep him, sounds very graphical, but view discretion as advised, they had to actually keep him open for two weeks and giving internal medicine. So they didn't even know what's going to be with him. So me knowing what's going on with my father, you updated, I guess, I was updated. Of course, they had to be open with me because, you know, it's enough hiding, you know, a person I'm trying to fight for myself in the year from my mother. No, my father is, I didn't even know what's going to be. And just pushing me out of my head every day is just a drop down in all kinds of ways. It was just beyond like so much on my head and me fighting and therapy every day, just getting better. It's just, I was like, can we say again, I'm on this world. Can we say again, I'm on this world. It's again, I'm on this world, but looking, it's like, we're going to go to the end. It's just, yeah, it's, it's, it's going back. It's just really waking up every morning, just feeling the heaviness like that's going to be with Tati. I just lost mommy, like where is Tati? I want to see him already. Like I want to see him. Okay. Where does he come to visit me? 100%. It's just, it's a very lost feeling that you can't turn to any of your parents. It's very, it's very lost. It's like basically in the way you lost both of your parents. And today, if something like this was, how should have happened to someone? There will be organizations coming with guitars. I did, I did have Khaylai Frank come bring me every day supper. But to be honest, I was so mad in the mood of no, no clowns, no nothing. I was actually not that kind of patient. I was the kind of patient that people came to visit. I made them feel like the patient. Actually, I was very good at that. I was not the person like making people feel like I'm down. Even with my father and everything, I really did not show it. I want to give a special shout out and thank you for one of the hosts of this podcast, Brooklyn Square is where all these beautiful Let's Talk Tachles podcasts take place and are being filmed. And I feel that being in Brooklyn Square is a treat for me and for all the tenants that are here. Because being in Brooklyn Square brings you into such a pleasant and happy and positive work environment. You get to meet so many people, all types, all levels, all professions. And there's shoes in the building, there's gyms in the building, there's restaurants in the building. It's such a vibrant, happy, positive place. And when you spend your day between positive people who are surrounded by positive walls, then hopefully you produce positive podcasts as well. So my big thank you to Brooklyn Square. So what happened to Meiser with your father afterwards after this sad period of being in between stroke and heart connection? He fought it through and he survived. And he puts a quote, I was in the rehab center for another good, good four months after and things went on continue. I kept on and I went to work. And after eight months, we went back to the doctor, back to check through the check through the situation, x-rays and everything. So he came on saying my English name is Jacob. So as Jacob got some sad news and good news, I was like, what do you want? What do you want first? I was like, shoot me, tell me what's going on. Like straight to the point. Like one foot came out okay, but you're going to have to go for like intense therapy no matter what it takes. The other foot, we have to redo the surgery. I'm like, no way. I'm like, say what? No way. He's like, yes, you have to redo the surgery. I was like, this is after the 39th surgery? He's like, yeah. Maybe you should, you should, the glasses should be revoked. He actually was an old doctor. I'm just kidding. I told you he lost his glasses when he did it. So I was like, what? It's not funny. Yeah, it's not funny. So basically what happens, the process is after that, is that after you come out of the external fixations, which is also a surgery, about two hours surgery, but I'm not going to count that in my surgeries, but you can count it in the surgery. No problem. Yeah, no problem. Let's go. On the house. Yeah, exactly. So you have to go with the body cast, which goes from your ankle up to your waist. Wow. Six weeks. Not a picnic. No. I wish I was able to go to a picnic. But after that, you go back to go to the doctor and then he checks it out again. And in two weeks again. It's one of the easy surgeries. Yeah, very easy. Yeah. Then after that, you just, you take two weeks and I guess you go, you go under the surgery again. A funny joke, back dry. While I was in the in his cast, I was actually putting him, keep him over brother and fly bushy. And he, and after I'm keeping you, I went down the stairs. It wasn't the third floor. I was pushing myself down from the waist down the stairs this way. Yeah, that's the only way to push yourself down on a body cast. So I came down and I guess it has like a small argument with my one older brother than me. And it's like, and he got his back. I don't know if we get his back. It's, it got stuck in the door. I was like, yes, good for you. A second later, I woke out the door. You know, there's a small step like that. Step of going to the door. I walk out of the door. I was like, if you ever chat with your brother, much of your kipper, if you ever bother your brother, much of your kipper. I walked out of the door. I tripped over the door. I flipped my, my cast. I landed into the, into the garden. See over here? See the smargo here? I got like 17 stitches. I ended up like that, like this. Was she embarrassing you alone? It was funny, actually. I was, I broke my hand over here and over here. So I walked out of the, the, the, the, what a cast from here. Plus, plus my body cast. And you're laughing. Yeah, of course. I was, you ever saw the play, you ever saw the ball of play? You ever saw the Golden from Pride? Basically, I went like that. I was actually, I walked out when I came like that. I had to go on the taxi in the back. I took off, I traveled around. I took off, I had to take a taxi. I had to go back. See that was the story. So she ever, she ever checked anybody, mostly her kipper. Okay. Yes. The wrong time. Exactly. So that's the story. Wow. So moving forward, the surgery again, the external fixators and everything. I think, I don't remember where I went after that. So I, I don't want to say, I think I went to, and back to the rehab center, whoever came to visit me was amazing people. I had. You went to the same place? No. I just, I'm remembering, you're saying about physics, people can do physics, but rehab center, I had what's it called, the lady that came to take care of me. I was about to say it, but I'm not going to say it. See. No. So I'm saying what's it called. I had my brother, my one brother older than me, he comes to me to stay for Shabbos every week. I had, I had Mr. Rabbi Landau from Avenue L, came to learn with me every single Thursday. He tried his best to learn with me. Did I listen? I had a cousin of mine actually that actually tried, also they make me a little bit. So they make him. They tried, also had, what's it called, I had, I had my, I actually wanted my aunt, she didn't want me to wash my laundry, um, um, in that place. So she washed my laundry every single week, water, back and forth. Actually, um, it's a very funny story. Want to hear a funny story? One of my friends actually, he knew I liked his, the way his mother does a sesame chicken. They, they, they counter my calories over there. So he, he, he smuggled in his, the, the sesame chicken to bring it in every week. You know, I also had friends of mine from, from Williamsburg. They walked over, they walked from Sheva, walked over every single Shabbos to visit me from Williamsburg through the bridge. Happy to hear some. No, plus my, my family, that family was amazing in this place. And I had this one special person, which is always till today's days, which is actually my brother's uncle, which is his real uncle, his real uncle, which are not even my uncle. He took me under his wings till today's days and taste caring me like a father and uncle, even, I wouldn't have been here right now without him. So that's, that's, that's, that's, I have special people in my life. I cannot begin without, without you. Can we have him for the next podcast? Yes, he should. Exactly. Bring him on. He actually walked me down the hall by my house tonight. So yeah, that's how special he is. Wow. Yeah. So this is how I was. That was another, this whole podcast is like, well, we need to have six podcasts. Yes. It's the first time we've come out and say like, people know me as like fired up. But it's the first time hearing the mellow music. But yeah, I'm saying, Wow. So you felt, you felt he had, then the thing was removed, the full body. The full body, then it was actually, it was already the third, the fourth, whatever, the third, four, whatever. When did you stop counting, sir? I stopped counting. I think a total was 13 surgeries. So let's go move on. I didn't hear much about your father's particular. No, that's going to be in a second. So I'm saying an interesting story. I went to, one of the other surgeries happened. I actually thought I'm finally, I'm actually off. I'm finally taught. I'm finally done with going through surgeries. I was in Skvir for, for Yonthe. I shouldn't even keep it, but to the day I went to get to Manchur on the way home to my brother. I was walking out in my cave because I was able to do weed beer and get ready to my whole entire way. That's a two-way pairing to be good. On the way, I was walking through a shortcut in the middle of here. And you're like, boom. I'm like, what's happening there? My whole entire foot cracked because one of my pins I hear cracked. And I fell down. I was like, almost collapsed. I couldn't pick myself back up. But in the middle, I picked myself back up. While walking? While I'm walking. I arrived at my brother. I see my whole entire foot swollen. Boom. So I called the doctor emergency. After Yonthe went back, a whole entire pill went into the place. We had to redo surgery again. Same thing happened. Tell me, are you a troublemaker? If I'm a troublemaker? Oh, I saw that question coming up. If I'm a troublemaker? And which kind? I think that question is going to have to be put in categories. In sequence, yes. I think, why are you attracting so much trouble? I think you like it. I love it. God loves giving you trouble, huh? Because you handle it very well? Yeah. You do the koi along with the trouble. I think you should stop already, right? No, this one. This is also like, this is beyond. I finished surgery one Yonthe, but sickest. I finished surgery like two days before sickest. I got ahead to come home. My best friend, my one of my very close friends stayed with me till sickest, till in sickest to recover. I was able to go home, but I had to go to a taxi to come home in sickest. After the surgery, in sickest, I came home. Second day sickest, it got swollen like crazy. I had to go back and do another surgery. It's like, went back and forth, back and forth. And that's how I went. The same doctor did most of the surgeries. Yes. You know, you're... It was crazy infected. Wow. Yes. Vakashem, I'll never forget this. After all the surgeries, when I got to go through all the surgeries, I think I spoke enough about surgeries. Yes. After all surgeries, everybody, all the, till today's day, I don't think I admitted it in camera. Maybe my close ones know about this. Everybody knows me as the biggest dancer, Vakashem, in dancing and like doing... Let's see a little dance. Let's see. Soon after that, right? At speed, I can't. So, everybody knows me as doing the moves on the floor, which is, I love it. I'm dancing is my thing. All the, because all the damage on the surgeries, I couldn't move my ankle. I couldn't move my ankle. I went for... But everything was done. I couldn't attend therapy. Everything said, the only way I'll be able to move my ankle will be through a brace. They come out with this brace and said, I can make you any kind of color of the brace. Through a Yankee brace. I was a huge Yankee fan, which I'm still am. But I was through a Yankee brace or any kind of brace, like you could do anything, but you'll have to come back and just do it if you, because you've just adjusted. I'm like, okay. They give me the first brace. Walking out of there and said to myself, I am not going to ever wear a brace because I need to wear nice shoes. It's just me. I cannot, because it's not me. Oh yeah, they look good. So, I was like, this is not me. So, I remember that the following morning, I took up by myself. I'm going to do the therapy of my own. I know all the techniques, all everything. My father had in the backyard had, you remember those middle steps in Boracoy? The rusty. The rusty middle steps wasn't rusty, but those middle steps. I broke my bones every single morning. It was probably for four to six months. Broke it, broke it, broke it. Phil has finally got a low movement. Broke it more, broke it more. I went back to therapy. We went to the main therapist. I was like, how much movement do I have? He says, you have a little. It's like, how did you do this? You have 11. I'm like, can I get it more? It's like, if you did it tonight, you could push it more. I push myself even harder and harder. Until today's days, I only have 28% movement at my ankle. Capacity. Capacity. It's like, I'm just saying, that's all. I'm just saying how, when a person puts his mind to it, it just puts his mind, there's nothing more I can do. It's just, that's how it was. I said, I'm not going to wear a brace. I'm not going to wear a brace. Wow. And that's another crazy story that when I- No surgeries. No surgeries. Could be this more, I don't know. But I'm not going to search on Google anymore. So I'm saying, when I, the first time I was able to get the okay to start walking with my ankle, everything, I watched a call at dying. I went out of Yeshiva. I went back to Yeshiva a little bit. I went to, I decided to start walking from my first challenge from Yeshiva. 51st Street till Seagate, back and forth non-stop. I guess Yeshiva was a few blocks away from Seagate. Yeah, of course. Yeah. 51st Street till Seagate, back and forth. I walked together with my friends. Hello. Yeah, it was a challenge. That was the first challenge I ever did. You're talking about 100 blocks. I don't know how long it is, but I did that. 35th Street in Borough Park till Seagate. Back and forth. Back and forth. Back and forth. Wow. Took me about two and a half, three hours. Don't challenge me to do it today. We'd walked on the steps before. Yeah, we did it. Not happening. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. Your willpower is beyond description. Sadly, I want to go back a minute to your father. My father? Yes, your father. He was tired. Dear father. And you told me he survived. You got better after the... Yeah, my father survived before through everything. Walked us through a bit. My father was just one of a kind. And what happened? My father kept on suffering, unfortunately. My father kept on going through a lot and a lot and a lot. My father went through surgery after surgery. I don't know the past away. He went through everything. My father went through the upper numbers of surgeries. More than 30, more than you? Upper Ds. Wow. The upper teens. It's crazy. Because we know what each surgery takes. The pain, the suffering, the preparation, the recovery. No, but the funniest part of the surgery Shem tested me again is like also... I'm stopping a minute the podcast to inform you again that we have a brand new website. Let's talktachles.com. The website is made for you to engage with the show. You can write your comments. You can suggest, guest that you think will be great. You can also come up with ideas You can tell us what you liked, what you didn't like and our podcast. I hope you liked most of the things. And you can always watch or share with your friends to watch it without YouTube or an audio version only. So go to letstoktachles.com and enjoy it. I remember I wanted to celebrate also with my surgery. I wanted to go ice skating. My brother's brother wanted to... I'm sorry. Yeah, my brother's brother, which is a very close friend of mine, wanted to go ice skating. When we decided to go ice skating, we arrived over there with Floyd Benifil. You know Floyd Benifil? You're part of her, right? Next to me. Yeah, next to me. They're by the very park bridge. Yeah. That's right. What was that? Long Island. After the belt. Yeah, correct. So we decided we need to go. We arrived and there was no skates. So you know what it's like, everybody likes to have a little fun. So we went to the car. There was a runway over there, right? He started going a little fast. So basically, he went a little fast. There's a turning... There's one turning thingy over there. So I started screaming his name. And while screaming his name, we started going a little upwards. We flipped over seven times. We ended up somewhere in the bushes. And I know one thing. I ended up... I woke up to that song from Shlomi Geetbe. Who used water hoist to this? To the Chalaboy Kevo. Exactly. So that's something I kind of said. Like, yeah, you work piece and that's right. So please came down. I remember him calling his father. His father was a school member. My brother's actually in Las Vegas. He did actually jewelry then. He arrived back to town with a total lost car. So I'm saying he called his father. And his father had... Because I was a school member. My brother's sure he's a school member. He's like, where are you? I was like, we're here waiting for you by the curb. Like, where's the car? There, there. So please came out saying that we flew 28 feet in the air. We flipped over seven times. We ended up... We ended up driving like half a mile off the road. So yeah, the car was total, of course. So back to my father. You were not totaled. Yeah, I'm back. Almost. Huh? How's the children? No, I'm not totaled. Oh, it sounds like the situation was, mama's... High risk, let's call it. With my mother, I guess I take the Khrus's Arkham and everything else. My father, I take the smile, equals plus, plus, plus, plus. Equals my shit. And it's just, it's amazing. He just keeps on doing it. I know that he's not alive anymore. No, he's not. How much after the situation approximately did he... My father passed away 10 years after my mother. He had a father for quite a while. I was 26. My father was also very interesting the way he passed away. My father passed away. I was there, I was there the final, I was there by the final, final moments. I was there, Shavas. It was actually, my father knew at one time, Shavas, that he's going to die. What's the Shavas? He kept on saying, what's the Shavas? I'm going to die. What's the Shavas? I'm going to die. We kept on memorizing them, talking about what he was talking about. He hasn't eaten, he... It's funny, he went into cardiac arrest and he came back from cardiac arrest. He was recovering from cardiac arrest. He was doing so well. He was in Monsigny. And so basically, back to Shavas, he kept on saying, what's the Shavas? I'm going, what's the Shavas? I'm going. Then moving forward, we just didn't see it happening. But Shavas, by night, he was eating everything, so his schmack, out of the whole tired Friday night meal. He kept on eating so beautifully. So he kept him by the soup. He kept him, he called me over, mushy. Come here and get this. You can say Yiddish. No, it's okay. Come here for your viewers. I don't know. My viewers say Yiddish. So maybe you'll put translation on the bottom. So he kept on saying, he's totally mushy. Come here. Come over here. He says, what's the soy, what's the soy for Tybus from Kimalukhavi Sava Lakh? I was like, how would I... He was like, how do you say soup in Yiddish? I'm like, Tati Yoch. Yoch. He's like, Tati, what's the soy for Tybus from Yoch? I'm like, Tati, how should I know? He's like, Kimalukhavi Sava Lakh. What's the soy for Tybus? I'm like, okay, Tati, I don't think it's happening. But so that's the way he told me. Then Trin and I went to go down for X-rays. And he basically, by... Basically, he stopped over there. He said goodbye. He's made sure to say goodbye. He said, thank you for all that. Thank you for the Hashem years. We just saw the moment happening. The amount of showers, I had so much stress at the moment. I was like, okay, I went back to the apartment. I went to grab a cigarette. I was so stressed. I came back upstairs. I was like, I'm an ass-dinner. I was like, where's my father? When downstairs, the day I was just like... It's only buttoners. I came downstairs. My brother's downstairs. He's like, be busy. Tati's dying. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, I kept on pumping and pumping. So basically, watching him die to me was like... Yeah, seeing your father die in front of you is anything. And that's something... Big list. Yeah. Wow. How did you... I'm sure it affected you. It maybe brought up a lot of the past pain. That is something. Losing my father brought up the loss of my mother and father together. Because I just couldn't handle it in a way. Wow. Because when my mother, I couldn't recover 100%. And I had my father also almost dead. So I couldn't handle it over the 100%. My father, I lost my father and mother again. Because I had like a double fight. Wow. So I didn't know... My father, I handled it whatever. Can I ask how did it affect you? Did it have a... I'm sure it didn't have a happy effect on you. Positive effect. Not at all, no. Knowing you maybe started dancing then, no? No, I didn't. I mean it is. There was some jokey moments, but... I mean to say, how did you handle it? I didn't handle it. You're here? No, I didn't handle it the healthy way. Wow. I said it, I just thought it out. I didn't... Who helped you get out emotionally of this? What happened afterwards? Who helped you get out of it? How did you continue life? That's crazy. The list is only growing so far. Who helped me get out of the situation my father is saying? After getting such a hit, it's still waking up your mother's memories and her death. It's just, I came into work every... I don't know, it didn't do me as I was working, so... You're working? Yeah. But for the audience, once she's a very famous, beloved... Employee. Employee Super Plus in the famous Gourmet Glac chain. Brichandinovich, I love you. I love you. And I still remember you were a part. Today you... Today is in Thames River, Lakewood. But I remember your time... When did you... About that time did you join Gourmet Glac? Like you were able to take a job? I must have called. I've been going for almost 12 years. So when did you start working Gourmet Glac? At that time, approximately? No, before. Before? Ah, I didn't know that. Did you know the timing? I didn't know you were working there. I don't know the timing exactly. So how does Gourmet Glac add to this story? Because I know that... Gourmet Glac adds to this story? Gourmet Glac adds to every story. They're the most amazing company to work for. The support. They just got a good plug. The support they've given... I'm not trying to get nothing out of them. The support they've given to me and my family all these years is just way to the sky. Everybody should line up and try to get a job over there. No, seriously, it's just an amazing company. And you needed all the support in the world. With all my emotions, it's just a truthful and amazing company. Wow. So happy for you that the sham gave you this... Yeah, you can say that again. Wow, big gift from the Irish people. They gave me a huge gift. And so I guess the people who they started to started to help you in getting courage... No, so what happened was I kept on them coming into work. And my first thing is I'll start like this. I'll continue that in a few minutes, but I'll start like this. When my father passed away, I never really enjoyed alcohol. But I never drank alcohol. My friends drink alcohol, but I get ice cream and everything. I was actually natural happy in a way. But when my father passed away, I just needed something to block my pain. I just really needed something to block my pain. I thought, but alcohol is going to make me more and I'm happy like I'm more in a mellow mood. But so basically, as I could go back to pictures when I sat at the ship, it is a bottle of Glam-Livet or Bucket next to me sitting over here. And I just sitting over there and just trying to block myself. Magically. Magically, just remove my pain. But of course it didn't. But I continued drinking because it really numbed me. It really did numb me. So basically that was my tool. But that really did not do anything crazy for me. I just don't will never forget coming home from work every single day. My wife was sleeping. My kids were sleeping. I will just go and just take a seven ounce cup of vodka or even two. I just drink myself to sleep or not even sleep, but just go and drink and just take a walk around the black. I feel like a big junkie from Ocean Park where you're walking around. And just feel like numb and just don't know what to do with myself. And I was mommish lost and just really was mommish. I did not. I just did not know what to do with myself. You kept your job while you were? Kept my job, but it did so back to this down moment. The only person that I share my moments with was I think was my workmate, which is, I don't mind sharing his name, is Adi Khan, which you know Adi Khan. So yeah, I share my down moments a little with him. The famous video producer? He, what's it called, he I share my moments with, but Shashi Segeden, which is my manager, then he's the one that really saw it in me. He's the one that really saw it in me. And he's the one that pushed me to go to therapy. And me, I said, what's it called, me going to therapy. I'm like, I didn't need it, blah, blah, blah. I was like, what's about the funding and stuff? Like right now, it's not the time. I don't think I'm going to be doing this. It's like, don't worry, I'll get you the poem. More Hawaiian bigger, stop, stop, stop. Basically, he's, he's, he's stuck. So basically he got me the poem with Hawaiian bigger, but it's funny. I never ever mentioned to more Hawaiian bigger about my addiction to alcohol. I spoke to him even before I got into the show. Oh, wow. Yeah, I even, I spoke to him. Yeah, I spoke to him a long time. It's basically so. So he helped, so they hooked you up with him. And basically I, I watched the quality. I gave him, I gave him, I went to therapy. There was a few therapies that I had to do. Sessions. Sessions. And was there a year? I mean, I was there for a year therapy. But to be honest, I did not know how much I had in me and how much pain I've caused to myself throughout all the years for my surgeries. You didn't cause it. I'm sorry. How much, how much I had bottled up, how much I've bottled up in me and how much I've not speaking to anybody about it and how much I had to speak to somebody about it and how therapy is important to me and how therapy is important to anybody. Well, I'm not here to promote, make anybody say, Jesus, God, you have to go with everybody. I'm just saying anybody is such a problem. Anybody that's going through a hospital stay dramatic mother loss or people that are blocking their pain or emotions. Like people think they're better than anything. It's not easy what you're going through but who am I to tell you that didn't therapy? Like it's not easy for me to tell you that. But I personally, I did not know how much I had bottled up inside. Even though I'm an open book, I'm a very open book. I'm a real open book. I say the way it is. But me personally, when I had bottled up inside, I never knew I had so much bottled up inside. Oh, wow. But the most I wanted to do with me is just amazing. Wow. Obviously it was amazing. We see the results right now. Yeah. And I still have therapists that I go to. I still work on myself daily. I wanted to talk to somebody, have a therapist. You know, they say the proof is in the pudding. Yeah. Correct. Do proof. Yeah. What flavor? What flavor? I'm not perfect at all. It's a daily struggle, right? I'm not perfect at all. I don't stop working. And it's actually daily. Let's say some, I always say that the Let's Talk Talkless family is not here to hear sad things. We're here to learn, to grow. No, we've got to finish off with other stories. Exactly. So first, which story do you want to finish? We have to finish off with the other story. It says, which people should learn now, that means PTSD. Which, am I right? Yeah. It's about to go back the more that I want to learn. Yes. Basically, I was on the way home from a kid at Shabbos, 42nd and 13. I'm like, it's Shabbos Shamshi. How are you? I did it for like about four minutes, three minutes, having a conversation. I gave him a hug. I tell him, Shamshi, see you tonight because the store was open. Shabbos, how are you? See you tonight. Second, gave him a hug. A whole building went up and flames and explosions. Shamshi goes flying with his son. I get hit with a, I get hit with a stone. And I don't see Shamshi. I start screaming Shamshi. I can't see nothing. In the middle, I see Shamshi coming out of the road with him hopping out. You know, I don't know what's going on. I'm frozen. Shamshi's hopping, hopping, hopping. I don't see what's going on. Shamshi's laying down on the ground. I start screaming Katsula. In the meantime, I see Shamshi on the floor. One person is running out. One person is running to grab a gavel because it's got to do a tourniquet. I turn around. I see viewers' pressures are devised. I see an ankle. I don't know if anybody saw pictures of the Boston bombing. People running around with our limbs and stuff. But I see Shamshi's foot hanging. It's just, it was a scene that I've never thought I'm ever going to see. I didn't think anybody should ever see this in his life. And it happened with two of my closest friends. My closest, my, happened to the closest person. That helped you so much through. Helped me, helped me through. My father's, I might go through my father's therapy. And he, seeing him on the floor and him almost, I hit him out of breath saying Moishi on the floor. What I hear, what I hear is, my brother actually told me a few weeks ago in the restaurant. It says that the member on the scene saw me over there. He saw me. I was mommish paused like a freeze when he arrived. Didn't even know that I was part of the whole scene. I had a swollen ankle and everything else. Wow. I just want to tell that. Two people died in that explosion. Yeah, I was going to say to the audience that this was one of the very famous explosions from World Park. And some people even died in that scene. And then I had to go back to Manti Wambugra for a special therapy. It's called EMDR therapy. It's a motion therapy. People use it for mental health, people use it for, people for the army use it. When they come back from the army, they use it for motion trauma. For motion trauma. But my wife, unfortunately with him, I don't know what she's going to like when I say it, but she went through with this. I woke up with nightmares. You have no idea what this knows. School survivors guilt. I kept on telling Manti, why was an eye on the floor? Why wasn't I the one on the floor losing the ankle? Why was it Chamshi? Chamshi should have never been the one on the floor. The crying that went on in that office. I was like, no, Chamshi should not be in the hospital right now. I should be the one in the hospital. This is not fair. This is not fair and it went on for months. Waking up from nightmares, sleeping only maybe one hour a night, half hour. They had to go to work. This was just way beyond. But Bakhashem, we're here right now and Chamshi is walking on two feet. And we're here. I would call you an archaeology, you know. The more you dig, the more you find. The more you learn, the more you discover. How was your Aminah through all these very difficult times? As Bukha, like I said, in the... I think you would divide it in three big periods in your life. Bukha, while you're passing away, saying to me, No, no, no, no. I'm talking in the suffering, yes. And then you had your father's time and then you had started to finally go to therapy and become better. You had this third trauma. I'll tell you the truth. It's a very interesting, very deep question. It's not a deep question. Asking a person that really... Hoping I'm not upset that I'm asking. No, I'm not upset. I can forward it in a minute if I want to. But Aminah, I have a few different ways of Aminah. Okay, which part do you want to know first? We all believe that the Irish to Hashem is running the world and whatever happens to us happens by him. Totally. And we also believe that whatever happens to us is to the good. And how does a human being suffering so much say to himself, whatever happens and happened to me? Listen, that's Bukha and that's everything. Meaning the surgery that I went through, you're saying? That's something that took a long time to take in and realize that Hashem is actually the one that is actually the king. Running the show. Because I was actually having a karate match with him. I'm being honest. Yes. It was actually... I'm totally not surprised. It was actually not easy to accept that part. I had to go through a lot of tough punches when I had to say, okay, I love you. Okay, stop. Ginnick is Ginnick. Enough is enough. But I still didn't learn my lesson to be honest. But I think my smile pushed it through. And I think after all, it came through in a big way. Listen, there's no one... There's no better proof in the world than the way you are now, the way you are today. For me telling you about a minute is going to be... I can't... I think me waking up every morning, starting my morning, I find different kind of ways to find Hashem. I really do. I find different kind of ways to say good morning to Hashem. I dab him every day. After dabbing, I search different kind of things to find Hashem. And you're finding him. I'm finding him in different ways. Because I may sound Hibijibi, but no. Because I went through so much, I learned to connect in a different kind of way. I can't say to the audience, because it's too much for them to handle. No, no, no. That's not the goal. But for me personally... Go and do the summary message. People are listening and they... Well my Yiddish guide was, what's it called? I learned a lesson after my father passed away. I did work in my Yiddish guide in a big, big way after my father passed away. And that built my Minna a lot. I got connected to one of you people. Okay. Yeah, so I did, I didn't... I wish of a person. Yeah, yeah. And maybe that ended a little kind of way in a different kind of way. But he helped me work in my Minna a lot of ways. Wow. Yes, without a Minna, we can survive. Honestly? And I really, I didn't expect such a loaded conversation. Because I see you every once in a while and the smile and the beaming happiness coming out of you does not match the story you just said. And I'm really here to salute. I'll do an actual salute to you for being so strong. And so open about what happened to you and about your feelings and about you, some of you downfalls. And I think you are a major, amazing example for people to learn from you how to fight and not let life bring you down. And this is the biggest message I think that this podcast can bring to the viewers. 100%. So what do you want to say to conclude, Amosha? Include it. I'll say one thing before I conclude it. But if you ask me about a Minna, I think the biggest part of a Minna and the biggest part of a Minna that you can see in clients and all is that you say every single, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. I've learned it with my Jalisa. And I've learned it by what's it called, Bapashi of Vashala, Vashabashira. That we say it every single day by, as usual, right? What's it called? You say the Pusak is a Cali, right? The Cali is raw when they walk out on the train. Right? They all, they all have the option, what's it called? I think Hashem is like, like who, in the way, who is he, right? Who are like, they all, they were all able to look back on all the blood that Hashem shed to all the kids, all the blood that went on with them at the time. But they all, they all went on at the time. They all got to the Yamsuf and they said, Zechari Vamvayi, you are Hashem. You are, you are a God, no matter what. We're not going back. You're, we are, we are, we are yours, you are mine. Right? And you take, you take along these words. We're taking along these words. And they guide you and lead you. Wow. That's the, that's the, that's the way we can, that's the way we can. Vamvayi is more than amen. Vamvayi is meaning of beautifying. Not only I, I believe in Hashem, I also consider him a, a beautiful and a nice mashpiyah and man-hegel on me. That's correct. Wow. It's a big madraige to upgrade the amen, to bring it above regular amen. And we need to do, and we need to do the same praise to Hashem, even though we go through challenges. Not everyone can, but you, Bukhashem, have the koiches. I want to really thank you for coming. And I know it wasn't easy. I assume it wasn't easy, some of the questions and the answers we, we, we flushed over here. But I see a big smile on your face. So it makes me a little bit relieved from the guilt I have of interviewing you and bringing everything up. And I really want to thank you. And I want to beg you to continue exactly what you're doing and please stay out of trouble. No, thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to be here with you. And I hope people will take something good out of this. Not I hope people definitely take good out of this. And give me, give me a 30 second message for the audience. Guys, you be you, I'll be me. Keep on smiling. And I hope you guys appreciate this interview. And I thank Mr. Blumafell for this interview. And there's always a light there in the tunnel, even though it doesn't look so bright right now. Just put on a lighter and let it shine.