 There's some this is the build OGM call for Tuesday, October 26, 2021 High level there's something about when When somebody when I'm in the flow that I can explain my thoughts better So when I'm in a hangout with somebody, right? Oh, yeah That makes total sense to me Yeah, so anyway, so I'm looking at least to start with for those like to support people that think you know I would like to help frame a lecture around and Specifically it would be starting with what I said about the medical industry using that hysteria example Because that's what I didn't get a chance to share with you and I wish I had a share screen better It's relatively simple to do you want me to talk you through it? I know how to share screen But what happens is when I share screen I no longer see you Um You can also change the gala Let me exit people you should be able to still see me because I get thumbnail so everybody who's still in the room Okay, so I keep right now. I can't see you but that's okay because I want to go to my docs and I want to go. I think this is where I put the hysteria notes. No here's where I put my hysteria notes Okay, so I can't see you but I just threw these notes here so I could go back But get this the symptoms of hysteria a fondness of writing Can you see my screen? Oh, I didn't can you see my screen? You're not sharing yet. Oh, I didn't share you actually click the share button. Let me see if I can find you Because I've got to find the share button. Okay share screen Yeah, there we go. Boom Okay, yeah, I should still be there in a little thumbnail. Yes, I yes you are so I just and again It was even difficult for me to figure out. How do I get this written stuff over to this page? So I have it later because the way I used to work is I I would go to the library. I'd have all my books. I'd make photocopies of everything I'd highlight everything in my head. I knew where everything was right on The computer I can't I can't do that because I don't work. I need to physically, you know I'm a post-it notes kind of person, but anyway, so here's this thing. So look at this a fondness of writing is one of the symptoms What was so so Hippocrates and Plato spoke of the womb which they said tended to wander around the female body Causing an array of physical and mental conditions. So my thought was Because we have this whole fragility thing and this, you know This whole idea of people can't take criticism. Well, Plato and Hippocrates. I don't I don't think they're gonna mind Maybe it will be acceptable if we instead of like mocking them Just gently point out Where people in the past may have been off Yeah, exactly now it doesn't say so here, but you do know that the Greek so Hysteria comes from East Edos, which is the uterus. So there's a direct connection to the you to the it's written here as the womb Which doesn't look like it's similar, but but but East Edos is the womb So hysteria used to be thought of as the womb Going crazy or something like that. So the word the word is directly connected to it Sure, but get this while Rowan noted that both men and women could contract hysteria women were according to him more pre-disposed to this ailment because of their lazy and irritable nature He was having a bad marriage So anyway, I'm gonna unshare the screen because I think you get hold on So you haven't you haven't titled this document yet So I'm seeing up on the upper left says untitled document Your life will be easier if you click on where it says untitled document and name it You know description of hysteria or something like that It replaced that just start typing. Yeah, well actually actually I actually I This for me this system of using the first line Works for me. Okay. That makes a messy makes for messy Google Drive, but that's just fine All right, I'll change it because again these are for me these are like the scraps that I was telling you about Yeah, yeah, and I'm fine, but I think when I do it. I'm gonna have to just write it by hand But your straps will be easier to find if they're titled and then when you go back and look at your Google Drive because I'm yeah Let me title it That's that's a fine title or you could just just go click on the title again And it should highlight the whole now just command a Will highlight the whole line Give me another command a I don't even know are you on Windows or Mac? I just I just backspace usually are you on Windows or a Mac you need sure windows windows Okay, so it's control. Yeah, I think whatever whatever the command key is hold down the command key and hit the a there You go see it highlighted the whole line. Okay, that that command a does all And you know about copy paste right command X Okay, so there's a lot more of those shortcuts No, I don't know what you said I do I do control C control V. Those are fine Do you know about control Z? Does that bring back stuff that you lost control Z is the undo key it stops it undoes the last thing you did and it keeps going Yeah, so control Z very very very important. So now give it a while you're in the field give it a new title Yeah, and then here return you're good. And now when you go to your Google Drive, you will find all your little nuggets with nice names Thank you, you're welcome Sounds great. So what's stopping you from just going ahead and starting doing something like this. Nothing stopping me just all came together. Yeah, I always have so many different things and now it just all came together the one topic that could pull in all the other things I want to be able to do One of the things I want to be able to do is work in a team. Right. That's what I like. You know, even even if it's paid company. That's how I work. Well, great. Makes sense. So So you could practice, you could sort of set that up and invite a couple of people and do a practice run anytime you feel like it. Well, that's why my first step, which is what I just did before I came here was To put it on truth. Yep. And at least there I'll have my private group where I could, you know, just invite them in Cool. And so it wanted you to log back in. Did you manage to make it stick on trove or what happened? I don't know because it was time to come to the call. Oh, that's funny. Okay, so you were just doing that. Yes. So anyway, Okay, listen to you now because I really appreciate it. Thanks. I was gonna sit and ask about the structure of the tiles in the mosaic, but that's a geekier part of what this project is. That was the part of Build OGM I was interested in right this minute. But there's a bunch of other sort of stuff that that needs to happen. And maybe maybe I can ask you What moving parts need to be made to work better in order to better build OGM, like what, what, what sort of stuff should I be paying more attention to? Because I'm I'm a little scattered. I'm busy trying. I've got two big projects that are happening right now to come to events basically. And they're just draining a whole bunch of time from from these weeks. One of them will be over this Sunday. So it'll be completely done. The other one's going to go on for another month, I think. And so I'm also trying to start the podcast, which November one is coming up very quickly. And I'd like to do like six episodes of a podcast in November, which I think means three episodes of a podcast and then three shadow episodes in which we're busy sort of mulling over what happened, weaving it better, asking questions, making connections, that kind of thing. And me, like, gave me good advice, which was like just just just do the simplest thing that could possibly work or get started. Go do it. So that's good. But I'm trying to figure out which other which other moving parts. For the podcast. Well, no, for how it fits into the rest of what we're doing, I think. I think that question. I'm wondering how many other people have that desire to do podcasts. And if there can be like some discussion around how, you know, how you can like help each other in the same way I'm talking about it's almost like that, you know, company kind of thing, like you're each doing your own thing. But so this is, again, this is kind of abstract where I'm pulling you from. I was, I'd been looking at job openings and something I just caught my eye. It was really interesting. It was a social media thing. And you needed to be able to work Facebook. Twitter and Instagram. That was their main thing. And I was thinking, it would be so great if they would just hire a team. And you had your Facebooks working just, you know, the person that really knows Facebook really well does that. And the person that really knows Twitter, you know, and then those people that really know Facebook, you know, they're like, I don't know, I don't know. And you had your Facebooks working just, you know, the person that really knows Facebook really well does that. And the person that really knows Twitter, you know, and then those three people they kind of work together, and they help each other to do even though they're doing their own thing. And that's what I'd like to see more of. That makes sense. So earlier, when we were first thinking about weaving the world and all that I was talking about correspondence and so forth. And I was also talking about how it would be great if there were multiple podcasts that were all feeding the big fungus kind of thing. So what you just described would would easily be either. Right. Yes, exactly. And I have to say, so the, okay, so I'll go back to what I was writing in trope because that caused me to have to, you know, had to tag certain things. Yep. So when I think of people that I go to for support, two main groups would come to mind. One obviously would be OGM. The other would be GCC. So, for example, Sam and I, we actually had a hangout which again helps me. There are a lot of different. I don't know that they're necessarily a podcast you call it what you know whatever it is some media artifact that I think he and I would have interest in and I really, I really wanted to bring him in. I want to ask you, are you friends with Doug Breitbart? I've we've met, yes. I've really wanted to invite him into one of these smaller calls that deals with media as a matter of fact, on a Sunday call, they got a little bit into technology which I turned off my screen and did what I needed to do. But I thought that it would have been it would have he would have fit right into like a free Jerry's brain call. I've not, I've not heard from him or talked to him in a really long time but he's a brain fan and he has a startup called Sembel and Sembel is the semantic web app. It's like, ooh, okay. That's funny. That's as well as I know him. That's one thing I didn't know about him. That's interesting. Let me let me open his LinkedIn profile because it could be the symbol came and went because that's what I've got in my brain. I've got Sembel to my brain in. Let me just click. I added Sembel to my brain in 2012 so the likelihood that it's still around is actually low. And see what it says co-founder of being in systems now. Yes, he's working. Yes, that I know. Yeah. Okay, and I don't know being in systems. I guess the point I'm trying to bet what so for me, those two groups encompass anyone I would ever go to for expertise for hell. I mean, and like I could imagine if Doug and Sam were doing something I could imagine that that would catalyze Sam and Pete to work together. Right. Like, and again, I'm just imagining I can't tell anybody who to work with or what to do. But will Pete gave me the term futurist and in many ways I am a futurist and I can imagine that it would work well. So I'm wondering if as you're doing weaving the world, we might want to as a commons project, bring in a second kind of parallel reporting, whatever it may be. You know, there's a few ideas like I know Alison Melissa is really interested in creating discussions and podcasts that focus on economic trauma and a whole economic system. And my last, I haven't spoken to her about if she had sent me something I had sent you to her back. What I said, for me, my part to plug in, I'm interested in that before. Before that series happens. I'm interested in taking out the word trauma. I mean taking out the word economic trauma. I'm not talking about trauma, but looking at it through the lens of get this. So looking at it through the looking at it, looking at capitalism, but instead of the currency being money that the currency is a tension. Now look at those same things using economic terms like cost benefit analysis. Because my hypothesis or contention or whatever is that the white males, they're not necessarily suffering from economic trauma they're suffering from a different kind of trauma. And if, and again I'm going to say you guys but if you guys can't, you know, so men that I spend time with usually have done inner work. So they recognize more than most men, however, like all of us, we still have further to go. So I'm interested in what I call like that more kindergarten or that beginners conversation about trauma. And I think that the attention economy is a good way to frame that. I personally think that for a lot of emotional reasons. I think that that might provide the separation necessary to be able to have productive conversations without too many triggers going off. So you know that there's been a book and there's a whole movement about the attention economy. I've heard the term but I've never, I only know how I've made sense of it in my own mind of what it could mean. Let me screen share for a second and show you. So here's the notion of the attention economy. Michael Goldhaber is kind of the one credited with. I think kind of putting this on the map. Where's the book. Oh, go back to articles about here's the book the attention economy, understanding the new currency business written by john back. Didn't realize that it wasn't cool. I thought it was Goldhaber who had written this article but not. Anyway, there's a six types of attention. Of course because it's a Harvard Business School kind of book it needs to have these kinds of things I guess I didn't put a put all the different six Oh here, a version or attraction captive or voluntary front of mind or back of mind that's the framework that they came up with. And I'll send you a link to this thought right here so you can wander around the attention economy stuff. Jerry. Yeah. So here's what's really most important to me and what I want to get to do people that are in technology recognize how they are I'm going to use this, how they are raping the public in the same way that we've raped the planet. That's what I'm trying to get at do they. I think the critics of the system are very clearly aware of that, the people who are embedded in the system and have created the system. Some of them are awakened are like, Oh, guess we got to do this because it makes us a lot of money. And some of them are oblivious to it. So correct. Now, now. So you see here, the new scarcity is attention yuck. I'm a critic of the attention economy thesis. Here's here's actually I think one of the fundamental papers. But for me, the attention economy says scarcity equals value your time is scarce. Therefore, we should all be competing for your time. And, and I just really have never liked, never liked that at all. Wow, this goes way back doesn't it. Let me just look 2000 so I added this thought in the year 2000, just 21 years ago, oh well. And you're looking at attention I think in a different way than what is normally meant in the attention economy, which is interesting. Yes, and, but that's exactly why I want to use that language. Well, what I'm saying is the language is entangled with all this stuff and with a slightly different meaning from what you're meaning. Maybe yes, maybe no because I know you don't like that it's saying that your time is scarce. But isn't that how most people feel. Yeah, except to me that's not the variable that matters. These people. So the fans of this model are saying that this is this is the major thing that matters and this is the thing we should kind of measure and try to worry about. And I'm like, you know, I have friends who I haven't seen in a decade if they showed up tomorrow that they're occupying none of my attention right now. If they showed up tomorrow and said Jerry I've got something urgent can you help me I would drop things and go help them immediately. They have all of my, they have all of my trust and zero of my attention right now. But you just said what you said it. It's all about trust bingo, which is why I talk about the design from trust the relationship economy and a bunch of other stuff in objection to the business economy and the attention economy. Okay, so those those those two models got really popular back in the 90s. 2000s, and I'm like, no, we don't want to turn late because the experience economy is pine and Gilmore and it's like, let's, you know, turn everything into Disney, and the attention economy is this other thing. Okay, so as in everything else I'm all about finding that one little thing that we could tweak that would make it good. Yeah, exactly. I've got to switch locations but sure, hold everything. And let me just hit the backgroundy thing. There we go. Tomorrow machine. There we go. Do you mind if we stop recording for a minute. Not at all. Or for forever. Let me settle back down. Okay. You just said so this should be. Hold on. Hold on one second I needed to help with lighting. Be right with you. Hang on.