 You're welcome back to the breakfast and plus TV Africa was still talking about the state of the nation, especially about security and sadly a very terrible incident occurred on Saturday Sunday and we're hearing reports of another one that occurred yesterday still on confirm yet, but we're having the spokesman of your great development association Mr. Davidson Malison join us. Good morning, Mr. Malison. Good morning to you both. So when that attack occurred on Saturday Sunday, you put out a press statement explaining exactly your side of the story, but let's hear from the horse's mouth. What happened on Saturday? On Saturday, precisely around 9 a.m. in the morning, some communities within Myanmar district to be precise, Zangran, Rikwereshe, Chetahu, and Chuanjua around part of the community close to a village called Patemye. You know, an experienced threat of attacks from Fulani heathmen. Some security agents were informed and alerted and then they came and then chased them away, but they remobilized and reinforced and came back around 7 p.m. In the evening, and they started setting houses ablaze, the rest are more than 250 houses in the opposite villages, not fewer than 7 people were killed as at on the day I released that press statement. But after my press statement, more four dead bodies were recovered, making a total of 11 people that were killed in that particular incident. Over 40 hectares of farmlands made up of maize and other varieties of crops were completely destroyed. Domestic animals like sheaves, chickens, and others were also cutted away. Other household items were cutted away. The community was totally stacked. Those villages I mentioned. Alright, so can you confirm what exactly this is? Is this a community against community clash? Is this a herders, farmers clash? What exactly is the likelihood of what's going on here? And also, you said that security agents were present during the first attack. They chased them away. How come they couldn't show up the second time? Yeah, this is the problem we actually have in this nation. This is not a clash. When you call something a clash, it means there is a battlefield you used to go and meet and then showcase your strength, be able to display what it is. But this is not a clash. They have been coming to attack our people. We have never had any battlefield that we met with them. Who is they? Who is the people you are speaking of? Fulani Hezmen. Fulani Hezmen. Fulani Hezmen. Fulani militias. So it is not a clash. When you call it a clash, it means there is a battlefield. There is no battlefield. Somebody will be sleeping in the comfort of his home. You come and kill the person and you call that a clash. How is that supposed to be? I don't understand the definition of clash that a lot of people used to say. Somebody is sitting, you come and rest on his building and you call that a clash. It's not a clash. Alright, I'm Madison. So go on. I was asking with regards to response from security agencies, they had showed up the first time like you said. So why didn't they also show up the second time when they came back at 7 o'clock? My brother, that particular attack I'm telling you about lasted for more than four hours on Hinder. More than four hours on Hinder. Free operation and it is a pure conspiracy because we have people who run out of their houses to the bush. At testing that they saw people on military heaters dropping these people perpetrating this attack and also conveying them back. Even the materials they used in setting these houses are blessed. We also convey through them. So it is a pure conspiracy. Madison, I would begin to take the point of race step by step. Let's begin with the first one where you said that residents of the community were simply being peaceful and calm on their own when these criminal headers attacked. But I have a statement here. It's a press release on August 1st, released on the 1st of August by Isshaku. He's a military, a major military information officer. The second item on his press release says that the Iguayuts attacked Fulani headers residing in Raffi Buanna. The troops intervened, restored Namose. And then there was a similar accident which was a reprisal attack where troops was informed that this attack was going on. So basically what this statement from the major military officer is saying is that Iguayuts attacked Fulani headsmen first before they began to attack back. So do you have counterstatements? My sister, I'm a youth activist, not only a community leader. Let me be very frank here. When I received that press statement made by Operation Safe Heaven Platte State, that's where I further confirm that this whole thing is purely a conspiracy. See, we didn't attack these people. We never did and we have... Mr Davidson Marleson, who's a spokesman of the Iguay Development Association, we hope that we can reconnect with him this morning and get some clarity with what occurred in Platte State in the last 48 hours. Reports have it that dozens were murdered. About 250 houses were burnt and like he said, livestock were also either killed or taken away. It brings us of course once again to discussion on security challenges in Nigeria, conversations on who these attackers are. Mr Marleson, welcome back and you hear us. Alright, I'm here. Go ahead please. Yeah, like I was saying, when I received that press release, it's very laughable. And that was where I further confirmed that this whole thing is nothing but a conspiracy against the river people. My brother, let me... Like I said, 9 a.m. on that Saturday, we received train of attacks from Fulani Hezmer. They advanced to penetrate some communities they have already set ablaze. And then our boys who were on vigilant heard gunshots from them. And then these people ran to that village. The Operation Safeheavoon captured Korak in Bona. It was at that moment that the security members of Operation Safeheavoon came and intervened and sent them away. We never attacked them. But let me tell you what happened. 9 a.m. incidents. These people lasted for more than four hours. None of them saw off. So it is. None of them saw off. And they knew that yes, based on what they captured, we... And not true that it was a repriser. The press statement is weightless. In fact, an operation like to come out with a weightless... The press statement is laughable to the status and is something that is very, very disgraceful. Look at it. That's the press statement. The person who actually penned down and it was approved by the GOC or the commander is actually a shameful. And then let me follow that scene. Let me follow that scene. Nothing like a repriser to plan attack to completely take over ancestral lands of we will. Like I was saying, I know time will not be on a... Other communities around court, yes. Eight communities were totally razed down. 40 lives. Over 40 lives. We are lost. As we speak, we cannot truly ascertain the... The people of that community fled away. Some dead bodies are even still missing in the bush. Detroit. This morning, if you notice, I am thinking... Tell you that even my own house was yesterday night and attacked the rest. Four, five, six seven eight communities. And 2,000 households in that community just yesterday night. Apart from the... That I call you that. Over 40 lives. We are lost. This... Yesterday night again. Madison. Madison. We are right down. Okay. Madison, I have so many questions. First of all, you mentioned that over 250 houses were burnt and many more yesterday. So we have the people in the community now. Where did they, you know, laid their head? Where are they? Are they safe? What is the state government saying about it? I... Tempted the one you asked. Where are they? If it were you, where will you be? Where will you be? Aren't you going to run for your life? These people fled. I am telling you, you need to come and see the situation of things around here. So disheartening. So emotional. I have never shaded tears as a man. I... Because of what I saw. You know, this is purely... This is... Than a genocide. You talk about state government. It's a very unfortunate and uncalled for. Just like I captured in that... Have been relegated to second-class citizens. I will not be given to our people. Even when they come back to do Jabu-Miyango down. Tafiganah that we're on fire. The governor was having a security meeting. Community was on fire. In the night. Over and lost. You didn't come and assist it. You were staying on the state of things. Oh God. What situation is this? I am bitter. I am bitter. A press release by him is also something not to write home about. We need action. This is a community that has property that Nigeria is all about. It is nothing. Nothing. Nothing from the state government. And I must easily say, even the president. Presidents need to react to this. Not this governor as I speak to you. Because if we are going to start... All right. Mr. Marleson, we of course extend our condolences to those families who have lost their lives. I know it's also difficult for you to carry on. And to continue speaking about this. But I'm sure you know what's important at a time like this. Is there any information with regards to where these attackers come from? Do they still live in those communities? Are they still in those communities? Do they come in from outside the communities and carry out these attacks? The one of Iriguelan. Yes, ma'am. We lived with them over some 10, 15 years ago. On the same day. Though we noticed they were planning something. They let the community. We didn't stop them from leaving. When you have a visitor who will come on the side, and maybe when the period as deemed fit by that visitor elapsed, and he or she said he's leaving, you don't have to stop the person. They left. When they left, that was when we discovered that they had a plan to forcefully take over our ancestral lands. That was when the whole thing began. I am telling you, I am going to make one revelation to you now. You see, there is a place called Sambisa Forest, right? Yes. Which is in Buenos Aires, right? Yes. There is a place called... Let's say this is not a forest. It's a rocky Sambisa. A rocky Sambisa in Platiste. This is where these people hire mercenaries. Hire mercenaries, come and keep them there, come them there, distribute them to all the localities. They want their attacks to take place. Another place is Mahanga Invergillie. There also come people around us as these. Like I said, but these people that came for this particular attack is a well-coordinated plant. They came more than 1,000 of them. More than 1,000 of them. So they were kept at these locations I said. And we have been raising issues. That those places are dangerous done. The security agents should do something. Are the security agents aware of these locations you've mentioned? What? Are the security agents aware of these locations you've mentioned? They're fully aware. They're fully aware. Like the place I call Mahanga, that place has been forcefully taken by the Fulani Hezmen and they are comfortably occupying it. So why do you think they're not doing anything about it? Conspiracy. That's just a simple answer. Conspiracy. Wow. I really extend my sympathy to you and the people of Plata State who have been a victim of these very deadly and dastardly attacks. I really can't imagine what you might be feeling right now. I can see the look on your face. It's one of sadness and despair. Really can't imagine really... I mean they push. I mean they push. I ran out of my house. My house was set ablaze yesterday. I mean they push as you speak. So I'm not even saying where I am talking to you. Can you give me any confirmation of the IDP camps there in Plata State and if maybe these people fled there and what the situation might be like? Do you have a clue? Currently, because of how they think, we have had so many attacks but this is one of its kinds. One of its kinds in the sense that this is the most dangerous one the Rebellion has ever faced. Right now I cannot categorically confirm to you this is where the people have gone to regroup. This is an IDC camp that has been established for these people to be occupied but maybe in subsequent days as we see how things are going to be as leaders we will try to see how we will reset to them somewhere but right now everybody has virtually run for his or her life. And you are of course a spokesman for the Irrigate Development Association. What can you say about the rest of the youth in that community? Are they also finding ways to protect themselves? Is there any efforts that they also put in to protect the community when these things happen? That boils down to what General Tjopoulis done to my once advice and his advice was actually up and timely. This is because the Nigerian state has failed everybody in times of its duty to protect the life and properties of its citizenry but you will be able to say that safe defence is not easy. The youth in my community are vulnerable just like other youth in some places. Vulnerable, we can afford anything to defend ourselves. Do you defend yourself with a stick? Do you defend yourself with matches? The goal that has been declared on the way people is a goal that sophisticated weapons have been used. Just like I tell you these people come with ammunition, weapons that are dangerous and more deadly than even the military have. So our people cannot really do anything when they are giving the youth. Mr. Malison, can you take us around your location? Can you show us where you are currently, what it looks like? You said you're currently in the bush and how long have you been there? Is that where you're going to be until this calms down? That I can't really say on national TV. Oh okay, well I understand that. I just want to also see what it was like in that area for those who don't know Platoon State well enough. Dabura, have you seen it? Yes, absolutely. Haven't you seen it? Well we've seen as much as we can from this angle. Alright, we would like to speak with you again. Hopefully we can set up another conversation and get feedback on what the situation is in the next couple of days. And hopefully also we get feedback from the government and get to also understand what they are doing to protect the lives of the Riguille people. Thank you very much Davidson Malison for speaking with us this morning. Please stay safe. Thank you Malison. Thank you. Oh my, I really can't imagine being in those shoes in such a situation where I have to run for my life and just being uncertain as to what's going to happen to me tomorrow. There is no way you would tell me that there are not families who have basically been displaced in the sense that mothers who can find children, children who can find parents. There definitely will be situations like this if over 250 houses were raised when a family that should be, you know, averagely five. So it's just saddening what's really happening and we hope that the government does say something. I really wonder why we've not really heard much from the government and that the press statement here, you know, counters some of the things that, you know, David Malison has said, you know, from the angle of the people in the community. But we'll watch the story and see how it goes. That is the, I guess that's the TV friendly, politically correct, you know, way to put it. You know, but I'm going to, you know, go back to one of the questions that I had asked our previous guests here also get. So it has to bother somebody that these things are happening. It has to bother somebody that these lives are being lost, that these houses are being burnt. If it doesn't bother somebody then, you know, they would have to, of course, agree that there's collusion. Okay, so we just spoke to David Malison, representing the people of Platter State. We have on the line a representative of, you know, the Fulani Breeders Association to give us his side of the story after the break.