 Okay, welcome welcome to unhinged with the door dork where door hardware nerds get together We slam and we knock on different door fills. We learn we laugh sometimes we even cry, but most importantly we have fun While dorking out on some doors today we have two very special guests from just Across the river from my town for those who don't know I live in Portland, Oregon But Mike and Pat from Harry's locksmith is in Vancouver, Washington Which a lot of people just call northern Portland, right? Well kind of extension for sure. I think it's over They don't say that because they don't want to be associated They don't want to be associated with the weird side of Portland. They're the cool side of Portland, you know Our whole mother state welcome Mike and Pat If you guys wouldn't mind why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about what Harry's does Well, I'm Patrick Krabowski. I'm with Harry's locksmith service And have been there for over 20 years Over 25 could be not good at math This is my brother and my partner Mike Partner and business partners business partners business partners Anyway, so yeah, we've been doing the locksmith business for quite some time now We do a lot of electronic access door repair door replacements those type of things Basically if it's on a door or part of a door or a door, we're gonna repair it replace it It's kind of what we do and and I can say that you guys are being Being humble and modest Harry's is a well-known establishment in the market and definitely well deserved for All the different. I mean you guys have won a bunch of different awards for the different areas, right? Yeah, we probably want a few Yeah, yeah You know, we've been around, you know, we like we've been around a long time Harry's has been around, you know The Vancouver area, you know since the 40s, so we've kind of grown, you know, since Pat and I have been here We've you know really grown the business You know had the fortune of having really good people to come work with us. We You know, we'd like to stay connected to our community We don't take on responsibility of doing the you know doing our best to do the right thing, you know for our clients and You know, I've been a field technician for a very long time, so I've grown in the industry You know being by being in the field and you know working that way Pat's always been kind of in the shop and taking care of us from the inside out and You know, we we work as a really good team, you know Pat strengths You know Pat has many good strengths and you know his strengths are my weaknesses and vice versa So he's got a lot of stuff and I'm good at a lot of other stuff and we really compliment each other in that way I think we're we all are a little you know if you have anybody in the industry it's a little hardware nerd and we all You know when you start out and then you still go on every door you go walk in you judge it as you go in Look at that door. Oh, yeah, that was a good install. Oh, wow Yeah, obviously they we're not sure who they hired for that. Boy, I sure hope it wasn't us But yeah, there's we every door we we survey it as we go through for sure Well, we are going to be judging some doors today So I get your judge stamps out get get ready to knock and slant some doors For those who don't know how unhinge works I will share my screen and show you a doorbell or install or code violation of some sort We knock and then we slam we throw out our comments and then we give it a knocking score One being not too bad and ten being pretty knocking bad I guess we've got me also here as well. Mia. I'll let you introduce yourself and then I'll jump into the first picture Yeah, me and Meryl product manager for Sergeant Corbin and Yale and Head door hardware nerd. I don't know. We need to come up with a official title, but Okay, I will share my screen, okay so this this one I just recently got back from a vacation in Hawaii and This was a large hotel chain this was a resort just outside of Kona and To put this in perspective there's quite a few people that were staying at this hotel and this was one of the Emergency exits as you can tell. Okay. What do you guys see? I see a menu on the door there On the the right side it says these doors are currently closed out of order Down at the bottom it has underlined in the case of an emergency use this exit down the hall not this one Mahalo and thank you for your understanding, right? So and now I can see that okay, the thing I noticed is it says Aloha and so are they saying hello or goodbye? Yeah, and I saw Mahalo in there as well. I guess if there's an emergency it might be goodbye In the case of emergency break glass Emergency we have to really stop and read what to do before we decide what we're gonna do So that's kind of nice. It's very apologetic It's it's polite, but it's gonna take you a second to read through that sign and you're not gonna want to do that Why you're panicking right? Well, I mean being in the industry I don't know that I've ever seen a client actually or you know somebody go through there actually reading that shit So they're going out it anyway I mean I've been trampled over gone under pushed aside. I can have as many cones and signs as I wanted I'd make a damn difference. I Tested the doors and they were locked shut. So that that wouldn't be good Someone would trap would ignore the sign and walk right into it and then understand the sign So is there no sprints all over there Yeah, I guess we could zoom in and see how many Face plants have happened. Yeah, I mean they did they did do a good job of putting up cones That's kind of nice. Yeah, they're giving them a heads up, you know caution put on be put on notice There should at least be like arrow some arrows like bigger signage would like exit this way Definitely, there should be something that shows that these doors are out of order besides the little menu up front there Hey, while you're going through the other exit stop by the shave dice and get a cherry flavored snow cone on your way out Exactly. Yeah, it's a marketing ploy. That's that's why they put this up here. Those doors are fine They just want people to buy more shaved ice. Yeah, it's it's called synergy, right? We call that the business synergy when we were working with you know with your partner to help them, you know Advanced business. Yeah, it's like when they put those add-on items right at the counter If you were an owner or what would be some of the liability that could come upon you for an exit like this the life safety issue for life safeties for sure Feel like they're locked in or locked out Just walking through and the doors not opening and running into them Well, it could be an eight, you know, obviously ADA issue. I mean, is there, you know, there's no access, you know There's obviously not accessible. Who knows what the other agents are like. Are they you know, are they ADA accessible and and I can tell you This was one of the main exits and entrances to this resort. So this could have been their ADA entrance I don't see any auto operators and you don't you're necessary need auto operators for an ADA entrance but Yeah, it could be an ADA violation. Right. I mean, obviously, yeah, you don't need an have an auto operator They're called audible, you know, that's a big misnomer in the industry, right? They're called auto operators or Automatics and not ADA operators, but yeah, especially with the new IBC International building code change for accessibility. I don't know if you guys are aware of that But 60% of all public accesses have to have an auto operator on moving forward. What's that code is adopted by? Thanks. Yeah, Portland. Yeah, I've heard that's I've heard that's coming down the pipe one right now We just call it, you know, it's not ADA, you know, these are just its accessibility issues. So right now They're just it's terminology at this point, you know Yeah, I agree So if you guys were to give this a knocking score one through ten, what would it be? I'm gonna give it a five Five. I was gonna say about a six or so. Yeah It's it's not like anyone's life is in a media danger yet, but it could be And it's not like a bad it's not from like an install or the door swings the wrong way It's just obviously a need of repair. So it's really more about Signage and direction and you know communication at this point. How about you Mia knocking score? Yeah, I mean If nothing's going wrong, it's low, but in the event that there's a fire. I think this is Minimally a seven because if there's an emergency, it's big trouble because there's no clear indication Unless you did your own safety briefing prior to that happening You're not gonna stop and read this to find out where the next exit is Yeah, do they have like a daily muster meeting? Like a cruise No, I would I would agree with you It's it's not terrible There wasn't another emergency exit they were trying to communicate But at the same time it is a life safety code and you should get that fixed as soon as possible and the way it looked It's been Like this for quite some time Okay, I'll you guys ready for the next one