 I'm doing a little pre show yoga. I spot some whales. It's whale season down in Mexico and then my phone starts going off news on news on news on this Tuesday in the NFL. It's what we do and we got to celebrate some incredible careers, some incredible playoff births. And we do it right now on the up and Adam show. Let's go. Vamos news here on the up and Adam show, not on the up and Adam show, but in the world of the NFL, a legend decides to hang it up. JJ Watt retiring, breaking the news on his own after such a tremendous career. He said, Co was first NFL game that of course his baby, my last ever NFL home game. My heart is filled with nothing but love and gratitude. It's been an absolute honor and a pleasure. JJ Watt announcing his retirement from the NFL at the end of the season. We're talking a three time defensive player of the year, Walter Payton, man of the year, poster boy for the NFL. And I bring him at Hamilton because he got news on news to get you. But you know, I said, why is he doing this? And you said, what do you mean? He's had a great career. And I'm like, I want to see him go. Yeah, I think he's just, I think he's just at that point, you know, it's been a trying year, I think in Arizona, I think he kind of, he feels he's accomplished, you know, pretty much everything there is. I know he didn't, he didn't get that Super Bowl win. But as you mentioned, those three defensive player of the year awards, he's only, he's one of three guys in NFL history to do that with Lawrence Taylor and Aaron Donald as the other two. So his legacy is pretty much cemented. I think he's the first ball at all. Famer, for sure. He certainly is. And the question is going to be, I have, I have, you know, a couple of Hall of Famer isn't one of them. It's, is this a real retirement? We know he's been through some health issues, of course, he's got, you know, a different things of priority of importance. He's got a child. He's got a family and all of that. But, but, you know, I don't really believe in retiring anymore. I'm just going to say it. I think guys like Rob Gronkhouse, I think Aaron Rodgers will do this too. He'll mull it over. He'll retire on retire. It's super annoying. But JJ Watt, I love you. I'll celebrate your career all we want. We can show up your highlight. I'm not buying it. Hamilton, that's just how I feel. I'm not buying it. And we'll see, we'll see what happens with that. But congratulations, JJ Watt on such a tremendous career. And I think, I think that's fair. I mean, he's, you know, he's only 33, turns 34 shortly. So, you know, if he wants to go somewhere, he could still be a contributor on a contending game if he does want to come back and do that. But I think he hit it on the head too. I think those health issues that I've gone on with him over the last year or so, that he's been pretty public and pretty open about, I think that has to play a factor here too, as he starts, you know, as he starts his family, I think he's prioritizing his health. He certainly is. Okay, so I'm going to lose you for a second. I mean, you know, here I am on, hold on, oh, poor Hamilton. I didn't mean to release a body to you yet. Never mind. We'll get back to Hamilton. This is day two. No, no, no, it's okay. Thank you. Thank you, Richard. We're all good. We got a look at the playoff picture. But some really exciting stuff is happening around the league. So congrats to JJ Watt on that. And then, of course, there's a firing we have to get to. But first, the Chargers punch their ticket to the post season last night. So, so fun. Could they do it? Will they, you know, will they always be banged up? No, their injured guys are coming back at the right time. So here's how it's going to look right now. We're looking at the Chargers, LA taking care of business. I'm going to show you guys some of this stuff. Of course, they pick off folds. They just had a terrible game three times. 20 to three was the score. Not a very exciting game. And this is their first playoff appearance of the Justin Herbert era. So, you know, coming off a team that is perennially cursed, it makes me think I can win a couple parlays. It makes me think I can do anything. It makes you think, by the way, this isn't some cute storyline. They can go ahead and make some noise. This is such a step forward for Herbert, for Staley, for Tolesco. And this is one that they had to take this season. We joke. My entire crew went to that Chargers Titans game and I'm, Tom Tolesco, pay attention to me. But he couldn't, because his job is on the line. All of their jobs are on the line. They face so much scrutiny, so much doubt, and they battle through so many injuries to key players that are getting back at the right time. It's really beautiful and powerful. And Staley specifically, well aware of what this moment means for the organization. And here he is after the game. Dan, I think it's just the beginning. Just the beginning. This is not our final goal. We expected to be at this point. I'm really proud of how this season has gone for our football team and what we've been able to demonstrate in order to make it into the postseason. That's probably what I'm most proud of, not just being in it, but how we made it, what it took for us to get in. But, you know, this is just the beginning for us. So, they're healthy. They're building momentum at the right time. So much of a Super Bowl run or making waves in the playoffs is based on timing. It's all based on, is this team healthy? Do they have the Jews? And they finally have Mike Williams. They've got Keenan Allen back on track. And then we get, you know, the great news that Joey Bosa will be back and practicing this week. And, you know, Slater, he might be out there for the playoffs. So, if they have all of these guys, how could they not make waves in the playoffs? Because if you look at it, it means five of the seven teams in the AFC are decided. You've got the Bills. You're looking at the Chiefs, Spangles, Ravens, Chargers. They're all in. The last two spots over the AFC South winner, which comes down to a week, 18 showed up between the Jags and these Titans. And the final wildcard spot with the Dolphins, Patriots, Jets and Steelers are still alive. So, there's this. Congratulations to the Chargers. I'm happy. I got to go see a regular season game. And I'm happy that I maybe go get to see a playoff game with this squad. And my camera is on a table, my computer that's wobbly. So, apologies. So, hopefully we can fix that. I was on the beach yesterday, Monday, New York Times, Crossford Puzzle, the easy one. So, I feel smart. I'm whizzing through it. I'm reading some article about how NBA players are obsessed with how the weather sucks. I'm really just enjoying my mid-morning caraheo here and listening to the waves. And then, boom, we get waves of news. So much going on. Mike White returning this week to play a hero nonetheless. Get the material, send them over to Martha Kansas. You can sew up a Superman suit, slap on the cape, because here we go. He's being charged with rescuing the Jets' playoff hopes and their chances with a battle against the Seahawks this week. Then, elsewhere in the AFC East, very disconcerting, very disappointing to see. You just worry some news about Tua Tunga by Loa entering concussion protocol once again. And I said this before, and I've said this a lot, players are going to want to play. And we're going to talk to Darius Butler about this. I'll ask Mark Ingram about this current player and former player, different perspectives. You know, players are going to want to go out there, show some grits, show their teammates what they're made of, especially the leaders on these teams. It's a culture problem. And I hope that he has enough people who actually care about him speaking up and then understanding what's at stake long-term. We have to protect our players. And I don't know if that's happening, but I think everyone can agree that we can do a better job on that. So Mark Ingram honored a bit about that. Darius Butler will be here. And I got to ask him about, I mean, Josh Norman to the Panthers. Did that happen or was that a fever dream that I had? And then, the biggest news of the whole thing is that Nathaniel Hackett gets dumped. Just 15 games into his head coaching career. And the assistant that he brought in is going to take over in the interim. Yeah. So let's take a look at some of that stuff as we see it. This season has been a disaster. I've never, you know, everyone at the water cooler here in Cabo is like, is this the worst trade that's ever happened? Not in any NFL sports? And I'm like, see, see, I think so. Absolutely. What a disaster. They get embarrassed on national TV by, you know, a banged up Baker Mayfield Ram squad Broncos brass had enough. And you hate to see anybody lose their job. It's incredibly difficult, I imagine to be an NFL coach as any of them as anybody's ever tried to be one. But kind of like I'm saying players are going to want to play coaches are going to want to coaching candidates are going to want to take those jobs. Like if you're going to dangle ahead coaching gig in front of somebody who maybe doesn't have the experience and can't do it, like they're going to they're going to take it. That's what's going to happen. And so that's a little bit on the Broncos. It's not all on Hackett. They hired someone with a little head coaching experience. They took a leap of faith, sure, and it busted. And I'll say this, it's a fun little science experiment. Granted, you know, Brady and Belichick, we were wanting to distill that in a test tube a long time ago. But think about this, you remove one of them, because it's like the biggest conundrum of all time. What is going on here? You take him out and you get to find out how much of this was Nathaniel Hackett was Nathaniel Hackett handed a washed up Russell Wilson. And now the swirly name is Champagne, and of course, Bell of the Ball. If he goes there and he all of a sudden gets our guy Russ to cook, then the Hackett hire is probably going to be looked at as one of the worst in the history of the league. So essentially, if you boil it down and Broncos fans, I feel free. I can't even imagine I feel free. It's like worse than being a Bears fan these days. Seriously, much worse, actually, much, much worse. Either the Broncos made the worst coaching hire in NFL history, or they made the worst trade or extension combo in NFL history. And they better hope that it's the former, because they're going to be stuck with the other one for at least two years with the way that construct is structured. So whoops, whoops, all around Hamilton. Get back in there. Did I miss anything in the news yesterday? I was saying it just as far as Hackett is concerned, you know, when you look back on this too, the hire was made, I think, you know, kind of the unspoken thing there was this was an attempt to lure Aaron Rogers away from the package, get him to kind of put his way to Denver, and accept a trade there. And then they kind of, once that didn't happen, it was like, okay, what's our backup plan? They make the move for Russell. And you have this and coach quarterback combo that was never really the right fit. So just all the way around, I mean, I think, I think it was it was an aggressive swing to get Hackett as a way to try to get Aaron Rogers. There really was no plan B, they kind of had to make it happen as they went along, and, and try to make it work with Russell. So, you know, I think on one hand, you kind of commend them for taking a swing to try to get one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game on board. But yeah, obviously, it blew up in their face. And it's got to be tough for Broncos fans to swallow this season and this morning as they process everything. Do you think if you're Sean Payton, you're interested in this game, we'll ask Mark Ingram, like, what kind of a fit he would be. But you know, they'll, and this is, there'll be many a coaching seat open and available for Payton if he wants them to, is this attractive? That's, I think it depends on how you, you Russell Wilson, if you're Sean Payton, do you think there is something left there? Do you think he's washed off? And I think, and I think from Denver's perspective, I think that's why you make this move now is to try to get an early crack at Sean Payton, start talking to him now, start trying to lure him in before some of these other jobs might become available that may lure him away. I think, you know, you want to be as aggressive as possible, make this move as early as possible. So you get, you get your first, your first shot at Sean. I don't think Sean goes to Denver. I can see the allure, but Sean, Sean has come on our show and said, it doesn't even look, you know, any, just the surprise of you and myself, who've been like following his career admirably for years. He doesn't really, he's kind of like, doesn't care about the quarterback or something. Doesn't he say that? Like he, it's not the most important thing he does. He said that's more about control. Can I go in there and do what I want to do? Is this no new ownership group? Maybe potentially. Sometimes it's kind of fun to go to a new place that doesn't know what they're doing and you can do what you want. Like it's true. I know it. And I don't know, does he, does he, I don't know what's interesting. It's like more of a, I don't know, is it more of a startup there if they've got history, of course, or you know, some of these coaching jobs that might be, I don't know. I don't, I don't know. And then if the Cowboy, you know, everyone's putting him to the Cowboys and trying to connect those dots, but you can't, not, you can't get rid of a Carthy if the Cowboys make waves. Well, maybe, maybe he's waiting to see what happens on wildcard weekend before he makes his decision. And I hear he's, I hear he's on vacation this week. Maybe we'll ask him to make an appearance on the Zee program. We'll see. Okay. We'll, we'll be back after this Hamilton. I appreciate you so much breaking news. Give me a break NFL world for one second. No, I'm kidding. Let's bring in Darius Butler after the break. He is here for shut down city. Did I dream that Josh Norman signed back to the Panthers? Did I dream that that happened? It happened. Darius, don't you go back to the Colts. Don't you? Hey, hey, not again. Go Pat, go in Miami. Go Vils, man, Christmas. It's a bingo swing. Come on, go home, be early. Chris is present. You know what I'm saying? We are a resilient group. Great job. You know, it wasn't pretty. Don't have to be as long as we get the win. We work for this feeling every single week. Be grateful and be thankful. Hey, I'm proud to say with everybody in this hotel, man, it's Christmas. We got that win. We're going to celebrate. Those are all of your winners from the week that was week 16. And now we bring back the Sultan of Shutdown City, the creator of all things DB and my personal fitness coach. But please do not make me do push-ups and combo. I did do yoga this morning, Darius Butler. Hey, something you got. We got to keep trying new things and figure out we got to get these parlays here because you're picking some good ones. Okay, we got to get to those because nobody's hitting parlays. And we when somebody hits it, we need champagne showers. We need to celebrate this bad boy. Darius Butler had a same game parley hit last night. Let's talk about it. Hey, man, chargers. I played it extra safe. I took chargers plus three and a half, even though they were minus three and a half. Mike Williams, 50 yards. Kenan Allen, 70 yards as he walks in the stadium with 70 yards. And then what was my last one? And also Eckler TD. I mean, this guy is 15, 16, TDs on the season already. Yeah. Finally got a hit. I think it was around plus 700. We needed it. The family needed it. The fans needed it. I damn sure needed it. So I'm glad we got it. But hey, just keep plugging at it, man. What's it like? What's it like to win one? Feels good. I'm not going to lie. This one felt good going into it though. You know, my coach and you know, these are two of my teams. I love the chargers. Obviously love the coats. And I think I wanted my coats to lose this game. I wanted us to lose this game. We had to lose the battle to win the war, whatever it goes. But we need a high draft pick. We need to start from scratch, get this thing right. But chargers, Justin Herbert finding the playoffs, excited for that as well. Me too. I mean, it's not just a fun, let's celebrate that and go home. Like they can keep going. They can really do some things, especially these guys that are coming back that are healthy. They'll be incredible to see. You're on the bit of a heater and you're happy, you're bragging about it. So let's double down here on a hot streak. Is there a bubble team in the AFC or NFC that you want to right now on the up and Adam show, sort of throw in with to make a run in the playoffs? Oh, to make a run. To do something to really make some damage. I mean, the jets are tough out. You know, Mike White finally getting cleared and he getting back in there. The weapons obviously put up numbers when he's in the lineup. The defense has been great all year. Can Mike White actually make a run in that AFC? Probably not. So I go to wildcard. I go back to the chargers. I think they can make a run. They were my preseason Superbowl pick. So I think they continue to get healthy. They get those offensive tackles back. You get Joey Bosa back. Obviously during James, he knocked yourself out of the game last night, but he'll be back. So yeah, the chargers can definitely make a run on that AFC side. And then for the other side, the two old guys, you let those two old guys get into the playoffs somehow. So where you let Aaron Rodgers the time Brady sneaking to the playoffs with a lot of unproven quarterbacks on that side of things in the playoffs, at least anything can happen. So this is the most excited time of the year for football fans. Brady most likely will have a home game in the playoffs as well. So that'll be interesting to see on that side. I mean, we're really going to let Tom do this again. Really? Really? Okay. Hey, it's not looking good. It's all going to be a thing. It's cliche. At this point, Tom Brady making it, it's cliche. Come on. It's not looking good. I would be shot at this point. I'm not going to lie to you. I will be shot with how I was looking in Tampa right now. I agree. It's so crazy. Not looking good. Okay. Let's talk about the Nathaniel Hackett firing because it's such a mess with what's going on there. Fire by the Broncos. You've got a $250 million quarterback there. Who not named Sean Payton would be your choice to fix this franchise? Sean Payton wouldn't wouldn't go there. I don't think. I don't need there. The defensive coordinator, young defensive coordinator, he's been great. Nero, last name is Vero, young defensive coordinator. I can't hear you. Defense has been great. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? No, I can't now. I couldn't hear. You were asking something. I couldn't help you out. It's okay. Go for it. The defensive coordinator, Vero, I think he'll be a good call for him long term. You're obviously tied to Russell Wilson for the next two years. He's a defensive guy. So can he fix or hire someone to fix Russell Wilson? I mean, fixing Russell Wilson, that's probably number one for whoever comes to take this job. I've never seen a quarterback fall off a cliff like Russ has. You committed a quarter of a billion dollars to the guy and it looks all mental for a guy that's played as long as he have on the level that he has. It looks all mental like he's stuck in his own head. The guys don't believe in him. The coaching staff doesn't believe in him. It doesn't look like he believes in himself right now. So somebody's got to come in and fix him. Maybe even Kelly Moore. He's been a hot name for some years now. Off to the side of the ball. And then, you know what? Go to Joe, go to Jim Erich, bring Peyton Manning in there, offer him a hundred million dollars to come in here and fix Russ and get them to another chip. They haven't been to the playoffs since that Super Bowl 50 win, which is wild. Do you think Peyton Manning could fix Russell Wilson? Peyton Manning can fix anybody. All right. When it comes to the quarterback position, if it's one guy now, would Peyton Manning want to coach realistically? Probably not. But if I will put all my eggs in that basket of Peyton Manning being able to fix any quarterback, and obviously Russell Wilson is going to, you know, respect them to the utmost as well, but they need something and they got to figure it out soon because whoever comes in and takes that job is tied to Russell Wilson for at least another, what, two years? That's tough. Sorry, man. It's not. And we feel for the Broncos fans more than anything, obviously, but they, you know, just another coaching seat. But then you look at what's going on with the Panthers. They remove rule and now under Wilkes, they might win the division, like they can do the whole, you know, the whole thing. So things can change on a whim. The quarterback position is something they cannot figure out. They've never been able to figure it out. I don't know why that is. Wilkes should have that job in Carolina, in my opinion. You fire, you fire a rule and then you go on this run. They just ran for over 300 yards in a huge game for him in a big moment. Traderway C-Mac, Traderway Robbie Anderson. I think Wilkes won that locker room moment. He should definitely win that job long term. We love to see that and love to hear that. Okay, let's do, let's do a little bit of talk to some legends here. And I'm talking about JJ Watt, who this morning said he's retiring. He's done. He said it's his last ever NFL home game. He's filled with gratitude. He's happy. JJ Watt, three time defensive player of the year. Walter Payton, man of the year. NFL poster boys hanging it up. Jerry, what are your thoughts? Man, incredible, incredible career. You know, when he got drafted, nobody really knew him like that. Nobody expected him to be what he became in the league. But I unfortunately had a front row seat to allow his greatest, his best performances in that AFC South. But him and his prime, he was one of the most dominant players I've ever seen play on the defensive side of the ball. If it was getting 20 sacks or getting 20 PBU's at the line of scrimmage, playing on offense and then what he did that year, that was actually a year. I was a, I was my team's candidate for the Walter Payton man of the year and everybody in the league knew who was winning it because I believe JJ Watt raised like $40 million for the Hurricane Harvey impacted in Houston by that. So shout out to JJ Watt, hell of a career and your little brothers will continue to carry that torch. It's so beautiful. That was back in 2017 and it was in 19 days. I think he raised something like $37 million for Hurricane Harvey. So what he's meant to a league and the community he plays in for so many years and so many ups and downs. And I think a lot of people are going to say, well, he just, I mean, he's a wrecking shop lately out there, right? Like he's like, he's, I've passed a couple of weeks, right? And people are saying, but he's not done yet. He's not like, he's still, he's still got something to give. He's obviously made peace with the fact that he's done and he's just giving it all. He's got these past couple of games to get it out of his, you know, to just leave the best taste of himself on the field, I'm sure. Like, you know, people, people like to make the end of careers for the legends for them. And it's over until he unretires like everybody else, serious. You don't want to get, you don't want to get wheelchair off. And you know, he's obviously played through a ton of injuries throughout his career, you know, much like Grant, who's been coming on here a lot, shout out to Grant to join the Fandorffam. But he's played through a bunch of injuries throughout his career. And he's always played the game the right way when it came to how he played between the lines. So, you know, he walks off and it's on the court, obviously made a ton of money. It's tough, you know, when you're losing to, you know, if he was winning or going on the run, it will probably be tougher to make this decision. But being in a team and organization that's not necessarily trending in the right direction, I'm sure that makes it a little easier. It makes it a little more peace of mind for JJ, man. But he deserves it. And I'm sure whatever he'll do in his next chapter, I'm sure we'll be seeing him around a lot. So, once again, absolutely JJ White. Let's go to your dolphins. You didn't mention them as a team that you think you make a run. Brutal. And then awful because Tua is back in concussion protocol. What do you make of your dolphins? Yeah, well, obviously Tua been in concussion protocol, you know, that's something we're all concerned about after what we saw earlier in the season with him. And I saw that hit live. And even with the replays and watching on all 22, it's still not giving that hit justice, especially when you hit the back of that hit. That was a tough hit. But at this point in the season, I think you shut him down. I think you shut him down and obviously we know what the dolphins are without Tua at quarterback. You know, we saw a small sample size of that this season. So I don't think we're going to make a run. Unfortunately, we started off like this and then we tailed off at the end of the season. I was with my family, you know, Christmas and literally, you know, family full of dolphins fans are like, oh man, they're going to do it to us again. You know, either start hot, finish terrible, or start terrible and finish hot. We just can't get a full season. But obviously, priority number one is Tua's health. And hopefully we use this season and continue building on it, continue to be better on defense. We should have been better on defense this year and then hopefully get Tua, you know, fully healthy next year. But if it was me calling the shots, I would just shut one down for the rest of the season and start looking forward to next year for him at least. And McDaniel was at the podium and he said he cares about his players' health more than anything. So we'll see that, you know, with what happened, four straight losses for the team. They've got two AFCE showdowns on the way to round out the season. So push for the postseason really bleak down there in Miami. Now, some DB things are happening that we have to talk about. So I need some vintage DB PSAs to these guys. Oh, Darius, we got to go through some. Here it is. First is this. Okay, it's a debatable block. I'll put it from Mac Jones. Everybody's talking about it. Incomplete class. It almost turns fumble and he dives with Eli Apple's name. What? Bush Lee. This is Bush Lee. You don't, you don't, you don't do this. You know, look, we play ball. It's a violent game, trust me. We're all playing full speed. You want to hit people as hard as you hit them and all these different types of things. But at the same time, there's a fraternity in the National Football League. You're not trying to injure. You're not trying to maim anyone. And this was just dirty. You know, you're going back, blocking back, not even blocking, you know, the defense has a ball going in the score and you're just peeling back. That's a dirty shot. It's a cheap shot. This is something to add on Mac Jones list of dirty plays. And I think he's putting that red target on his back and it's not smart for any player to do it, but especially a quarterback that's in a lot of vulnerable positions to do this. So Mac Jones is putting that target on his back, not smart at all by him. What does that mean? How should and how will defense is treat this? Because it's also not it's not the first one. This is there's a couple of questionable plays running around with Mac Jones. I'll give you an example. We'll be watching the film, maybe on let's say a Friday or something. Maybe it's a D coordinated, maybe a D line coach. Maybe it's a linebacker or a D and it's like, Hey, this is the this is the quarterback we're playing this week. And they'll show that clip that you just had on and just rewind it. If you ever see anybody watch film with that cowboy remote, they'll just rewind it about won't talk much and just continue to show that play and know who it is. So that's something that everyone sees. And like I said, as a quarterback, especially it's not not smart, you know, you got dirty office alignment and defense. They're in the trenches down and down out, but quarterbacks, a lot of times they're out there in their vulnerable position. So not smart Mac Jones, not smart buddy. Not smart is right. Now we've got this clip. Okay, so I'm going to show you this is Aaron Rogers. He tried to catch the doll from too many guys on the field, Mike McDaniel called the time right time out for the snap. Have you ever seen this sort of back and forth between an opposing coach and a player? Look at this. I saw it. I mean, I have, you know, you see it, especially when you got a quarterback, you know, they're probably down in the same age. So you know, these are peers going at it. You know, you've seen it where A-Rod and Mike Tomlin or very, very bold. Yes. But you know what, you know, all the little quirky stuff, little smiles, little cool shirts and stuff. Look, it's cool, Mike. We want wins. All right. We want to play off first. We want all that stuff. He's done a great job. He's done a phenomenal job as the first year head coach. But Dolphins fans down here with thirsty for some sustained success. But I like to see the personality come out a little bit. But you know, does he have to reel it in now? Tell me what you as a fan, not as a player. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Be yourself. You always be true to whoever you are at his core. And I believe his players love him. His players love his personality. His defense too. I'm just a talking head. Don't worry about me. Oh, it's defense. Now it's defense on Josh Boyer, my former coach. So Josh Boyer, hey, we, you know, we got to step it up. High standards over there. I'm, I'm, I need to place a bet at Fandall Sportsbook about when you're going to leave and go be a coach. I just know. I just know it's coming. I know you're going to leave and do it. Over under one and a half years. Oh, really? That should be over. I don't know what it means, obviously, but that's, I just hope you do whatever makes you happy. Okay, finally, I have to show you this one. This is, I mean, Darius. Come on. This is you. I didn't know you had, oh, I didn't know you were here. I'm sorry. What is going on here? You're really going to break this poor kid's ankles like this on Christmas, the Lord's birthday? I had the chucks, though, and he had the crocs. I mean, I found it very disrespectful that he thought he could guard me and crocs. But you know, this is one of those situations where, you know, I'm sitting in my grandparents' house, you know, I see the ball, the pigs can't get tossed back and forth outside on the street. The street, I, you know, was playing football on five years old. So I go out there and, you know, make a couple catches. When he threw this ball up, I had no intention of jumping this high. I, if you heard the sound, it was a grunt that came out of one of those things. I got to go up and do this. But I had to do it. I'm glad it was actually recorded because, you know, I don't know how many of those I have left at 36. Hey, but teams, you know, I know you got Eric Weddle on a lot. You saw that run Weddle made last year, playoff run, got guys lined up, Mesa plays. Hey, I got a good 25 plays for you out there. If you're contender, where would you want to go? Let's just have fun. Where would you go? Give me the top 14. Give me San Fran. Give me Philly. Dallas is warm. They got a dumb. Me, Dallas, Kansas City, Buffalo and the LA Chargers. So those are my 16 right there. That's six teams. Give me the one team that you would go to. Oh, the one. It's got to be warm. Hey, give me Chargers. LA Chargers. Los Angeles Chargers, baby. You go to the Chargers. Yeah, give me, I fit in somewhere. I got to be warm though. First and foremost. I see you. You were already in LA. You had to leave LA. You saw cold front and go all the way to, hey, shout out to UK. I want to be like you when I grow up. Thank you. So do I. We have somebody standing by who has a comment. He wants in on the conversation. What's up, boy? What's good? You out there abusing the neighborhood kids on Christmas day, man. Hey, you know how it is, man. You know how it is. The older you get, the better I was. But sometimes, you know, they see it. They got to feel it. They got to see it firsthand, man. No free passes. No free passes. Because if he had locked you up in jam, you would be going viral and everybody would be talking about you. So you got to handle these too. Smart, man. I would have been on somebody TikTok or Snapchat. I had no clue. Yeah, it would have been trying to talk bad to you. Has been, ain't been, whatever. You know what I mean? So I see a release. I see a release. The stat. The release at the top. Oh, then we went ahead. Tiptoe on him. The rock was a little straight. I'm 36. I don't create the separation like that, but I can still go up and get it. Hey, and Tony toe tap. Only tie line. One hand. Hey, that's muscle memory. I don't make it sound like catching six years old, man. Come on, man. I know that's right. Mark, that child is wearing crocs. That child is wearing crocs. Does it change your opinion at all? Listen, he pressed my man. So like, if you come with the action, you got to be ready for the results. You know what I mean? He can get out the kitchen. Hey, you heard him. Okay. So he's so Mark Ingram is not giving you a red card for that. He is dishing out red cards. No, we're not skipping shutdown city. We got to do shutdown city. Mark, we'll talk to you in two minutes. Take me to shutdown city. Darius, let's go. Hey, let's go. Who we got, man? Let's go. Hey, speaking of LA. Shout out to Kobe to rent out their LA LA Rams. They put an absolute whooping on the Broncos got my man fired, but the Kobe to rent HBCU legend to an exception. That's a nasi ones too. Had an 85 one back to the crib. So shout out to the Kobe to rent rookie three picks and then the old head, the OG triple OG still out there making plays picked off a nasty old right. You see it right here with that seven on so clean. Pat P. Home team, home team legend with another pick still making plays. Vikings fight for that one seed. So shout out to Pat P. And then the mayor, first time member, first time mayor, Jimmy Ward, best defense in the league. He's been back. He's been playing lights out since couple pair to pick against my all dolphins and another pig out here should have got to the crib. So shout out to Jimmy Ward, mayor of shutdown city. So the Kobe to rent Pat P and Jimmy Ward. Shout out to those guys, man. I don't. I gotta say, shout out to those guys. I don't recall Jaylin Ramsey being on your list at all. He had a nice interception. I know Jaylin's been on your list. Yeah. Jaylin did have a nice pick back in his zone. Russ rolling out. He did. Jaylin, you know, Jaylin's had, if you talk to Jaylin, I think Jaylin will let you know he hasn't had a year that's up to his standards. That whole team, I think, has had a little Super Bowl hangover with a which happens. But Jaylin is still a Hall of Fame putting together Hall of Fame career. But he may, he may, he may spend a blog hit the city next year. Here in Pablo, Darius, you're the best. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for all of the insights and a lot of news going on. So we'll talk to you soon. And then of course, Mark Ingram getting in on the action here in a minute, Mark Ingram Christmas is over there, saints. Get your equipment guys, take those lights down. What's up? Ladies, that's with Muhammad Ali. I'm up on the scene. I told you I'm up on the scene. Yeah. I'm ready for one, ready for one tonight. Ready to set the score, set the score tonight. Always has a smile, but he dishes out those red cards. I'm telling you, look out for Mark Ingram. Me, Armando is here. Hi, Mark, who, who saints won this week. Hey, we got the dub up there in frigid brick conditions. We got that dub. Call this game in saints franchise history. You weren't there, right? Is that such a blessing? Santa must love you. Yeah, it wasn't there. I wasn't there. I was watching. It was my daughter's birthday. So I was able to, she said she wanted the saints dub for her birthday and my dogs came through for her. So my Nola, who that baby got what she wanted for her birthday. I love that. The team was down 10. I'm sure you're watching it somewhere. It didn't look good. You know football better than anyone. Tell me, tell me what changed. What moment? I'm sure you talked to all the guys. What sparked the turnaround? Listen, somebody got to make a play. Somebody got to make a play. Defense was doing a great job, you know, just being strong, kind of had some bad field position early on in the game. They pinned us back with the wind and all that, you know, so it just takes one person to get stuff going, man. So I think they just stayed at it. Stay going. We was able to tie the game up. We was able to go ahead. We was able to dominate defensively and be efficient offensively. So when you do that, you don't turn the ball over. We had one turnover, but we overcame it, you know, so you just got to keep chopping away, chopping away. And I think they did that. They did a great job. They brought the dub home and coldest game in Saints history. I also think it was the coldest game in Brown's history. So them boys bought out a K big play on the choice route, running the ball, catching the ball. He had such a great game. Yeah, he had a great game. My boy Danny Sorensen out there with the pick almost returning it for a tutty. You know what I mean? So a lot of guys stepping up making the plays when you need it the most. And you guys, you're very much in it. You're very much in play for the NFC South title, which is crazy. You need to win the next two games and get some help. And you've got the Eagles on the way. So best of luck to the Saints there. I want to talk to you a little bit because Sean Payton sort of attached to the story. And you know him so well. Anytime a coach gets fired, any rule gets fired from the Panthers. I asked to ask you about it. So the Broncos partways the Nathaniel Hackett and they that on almost immediately, it's champagne, champagne, champagne. If you're his reference on his job application, tell me why Sean Payton would be a good fit there. Listen, if there's one person who I think might be able to get us going to Sean Payton, you know what I mean? So he's just a great offensive mind. They got great weapons over there, you know, rust. I mean, they got they got Coral Nesut and Jerry Judy, my boy Latavius Murray back there towing the rock. You know, 33 will be back. He tells to rock, you know, back from his injury. They got a great defense already. You know what I mean? So if there's one person who can get that offense out of their worlds, out of their struggles, it's Sean Payton. So I can't. I don't I don't think he's a Denver guy, but you asked me if I was his reference. What would I say? No, I know. I don't think so. That's just what I was saying is his reference. And hopefully, you know, whatever it may be, but I just don't see him in Denver. You know what I mean? I think I don't think they have I don't think they have much draft capital Sean likes to have, you know, you know, draft capital, you know, so I just think that the chips are stacked against them, you know, maybe some other teams, but I don't think he's going to be in Denver. Yeah, they got a $250 million quarterback that might need a coach, but might just be in his head or, you know, washed people are saying I don't like that word. So I'm not going to say that. But that's but, you know, there's a lot of things. Yeah, I don't think he ends up doing that. It's just it's just it's new. Maybe he's struggling a little bit. Yeah, who knows what the case may be. You know, I mean, I remember playing Russ Mears in Seattle every time you play Russ, you had to be ready for action. Like boy was, you know, always a problem. You know what I mean? So I don't think it just drops off like that. But he's in a whole new environment. I don't know. Maybe people's environment. You know, he's in Seattle, Seattle's whole career. I don't know what the issue is. I don't know what the problem is. The offense has been struggling. The defense has been holding people to minimal points, keeping them in games and the office doesn't have found a way to pull it through, man, whatever it may be, you know, I mean, whatever the reason may be. I know it's difficult for those guys over there. We're going to get to our favorite. It's really different and those fans as Broncos fans where you get to our favorite game. The two of thing I want to ask you about because you're so you've been in the league a long time. You care about the players. You the turf thing is important to you. So I know, you know, concussion stuff is serious. You've dealt with concussions. This is the second time. That's why it's a huge story. The second time this season that too has been allowed to finish a game after he has a head injury. And it sort of shows me that the system needs to keep improving and is flawed, maybe. And there needs to be a better way to protect players over your years in the league. Like, do you sense that it's changed? How has it changed from your perspective? And is there a culture issue in the NFL that needs to change to where these guys feel like they have to play through stuff when they're not feeling great? So as competitors, as people who feel like we need to do what's best to help our team, like risking it all to help your team, like I think that injury, like obviously you see it on tape now, but if the player doesn't come to you or someone around the player doesn't come to you, like it's hard to tell, you know what I mean? So, yes, they are supposed to have spotters. They are supposed to be red hat guys that see that and should have him evaluated. Yes, because you have to save the player for himself, you know what I mean? And the head injuries are not to be, you know, messed around with. Those are long, those are long-term ramifications. And I care about Tua because I've loved him to see as a true freshman at Bama. I went down there for a spring game, nobody knew who Tua Tago Viola was and I'm like, this dude's going to be special, you know what I mean? I love his family, they all have his back, but it's like we have to make sure we're taking care of the person before the player when it comes to head injuries and injuries in general. We have to make sure everyone is being super cautious before you put someone back out there with a head injury because this hell is long-term ramifications for players and you don't know what type of damage or what type of long-term health issues you can have from numerous concussions and numerous brain injuries. So I think they're trying to get better, but I mean clearly the system has failed Tua in some respects this season and we just have to do better as players. Mark, is there a way you can think to fix it? It's a lot to ask you, but is there anything you see from where, you know, like the players are going to want to play so we have to protect them. Is there anything you can see that might be a fix for this? So as players we have to be real and truthful and honest with ourselves when we do feel unclear in the head, you know what I mean? Because there is times where you see a little, you know, like dots or whatever, but you have to be real and honest with yourself and your teammates have to be real and honest too because if you see a guy, maybe stumble or maybe not looking like himself, like we all have to be honest and be accountable and holding each other to the to the highest standard to make sure we're all healthy, have a long term health and so we can enjoy, you know, the benefits and the rewards that we have attained, you know, to this point. So obviously players individually need to be accountable better, but I think, you know, the spotters, the red hat guys, the coaches, it just has to be a collective effort man. It can't be on one person. Just add more maybe. Maybe it's as a start. I don't know because to me, the obvious ones like, okay, like those are easy, right? It's the subtle ones. It's the subtle ones. It's the ones where, you know, to a kind of falls back and he hits his head a little bit. You know what I mean? Like did he get up wobbly and stumbly? No, I didn't see it if he did, but you knowing that he has had previous head injuries need to go up to him and check him and just make sure that he's okay and his vitals or whatever his baseline is still on point. Mark, I saw that play. The one that happened was subtle. If it in fact is that, I saw it didn't, I noticed it. I know it saw what happened, but I didn't think concussed and then I didn't think any of that. I really didn't. So it's the subtle ones totally that you're talking about. Those ones are definitely hurt though. The ones where you fall, you boom, boom, and that head hits that turf like rocks back, hits that turf like that. Those definitely like kind of ring your bell a little bit, but like I said, like, you know, the spotters have to know dealing with him and dealing with him in particular, his history this year, you definitely have to go and check him and make sure he's okay. Yeah. I mean, I had no idea he was hurt, but I'm just watching at home on my couch, right? I didn't either. I watched at home too. I had no idea he was hurt either. So I think what I'm hearing is I think there's a culture problem, me personally. I think there's players should be encouraged to like you're saying, be honest, check in with yourself. Yes, you want to play through everything, especially the leaders on the team, right? Like, but you have to be encouraged to be able to come forth and say, I don't feel good. It's not good for me to be in the game. And I think sometimes the culture in these locker rooms, isn't that it's you better get your ass out there and play. That is the culture for sure, a hundred percent, because I'm going to do whatever I can to be on the field. My guys, you know what I mean? Like you going through pain, you going through hurt. And sometimes like you don't feel like it's much. You feel like you just might have rung your bell a little bit. You don't feel necessarily cut. But I just feel like you have to protect the player for himself because the player is going to want to play, you know what I mean? So we have to have the people in place to make the right judgment cost for the player because the player is going to want to play unless the player is knocked out unconscious. Like obviously, like, you know, the ugly ones that we have seen that we hate to see a player is going to want to play. So we have to make sure that, you know, the people are put in place and put in the player before, I mean, put in the person that they are before the player. And your voice matters. Your voice matters with this because it's, you know, you've been doing it a long time. And I'm sure when you were younger and new, you thought you approached this differently than you are now seeing and knowing what you know and being a veteran as far as injuries. And I just think it's really important, very, and just I appreciate you being so candid and open about it. We don't have time for red cards though now. It's okay. It's okay. I mean, it's an important topic. I mean, it's something we all have to get better at, man, because at the end of the day, we want long-term health for all the players in the league. And we want to make sure everyone is able to live a long, healthy life, a prosperous life and be able to enjoy their families and whatever that may be, man. So it's something that we do. We definitely have to get corrected. You're beautiful. And all of our love to Tua, our loving prayers. And hopefully he has people who are advocating for him for whatever the rest of the season and the rest of his career looks like. Mark Ingram with the NFC contending Saints could win the division. Go beat the Eagles. Go do it. Who's that baby? Who's that baby?