 We'll come back. It's now time for Off The Press. Let's invite our guest, Mr. Chandik Kholawalli, a public affairs analyst. Good morning. Thank you for joining us. Good morning, Mr. Kholawalli, the weekend. Fantastic, thank you. Let's go straight to the punch in these papers. Headline says, government, 4.8 billion era pledge. Federal government can't be trusted, says National Association of Resident Doctors. We negotiated with NMA minister insist, and NAAD says, we can't go back to our members with empty promises, pay first. NGG tells doctors, we didn't hold talks with you, your matter is in court. Above the headlines on the punch, Nigerian Tindaspa are amid $65.34 billion in three years. CBN says, food imports got $1.04 billion in six months. Grays and reserves, autumn threatens legal action against Buhari. Bread price hike looms as bakers decry flower cost. Fuel price remains until federal government, labor and negotiations, says PPPRA. Juhesu says, Buhari's son's wedding, other large gatherings can fuel COVID-19 infections. Below the headlines on the punch in these paper, we see pictures of former president, Olusago Abasangir, taking a knee before the Oluwawari, and more pictures from that coronation ceremony. And it says, at 2, I say the third ascension, new dawn for Shakiri, that's according to Abasangir. Catholic clerics should not endorse political leaders, Bishop Warnes. Wanted drug dealer arrested in Lagos Church, man excretes heroin. Vayiku conveying Delta wedding guests, some assaults, seven die. Ex-herbalist allegedly hypnotizes Lagos teenager. Victim recovers in Undostate. COVID-19, Ogun lecturer tackles Lagos over the tension. Government threatens prosecution. Lastly on the punch in these paper, Kaduna Baptist School abductors promise to release all abductees, free 15. Now moving on to the daily sun newspapers. Big one you can see on your screen says, grazing roots, autumn blows hot, plans to sue Buhari. Group drags president and others to court of a failure to investigate missing 106 billion Naira in 149 MDAs. We can also find, of course, once again, the picture of Abasangir and the Oluwawari. 2023, Ohanes says parties must zone presidency to Southeast. Platoon killings requires orders evacuation of Abia students. IPOB accuses security operatives of plot to disguise as ESN to enforce sit at home. Enjoy tears as 15 abducted Baptist students regain freedom. Again, bandits slaughter 12 in Katsina community. Nine bodies recovered as gunmen kill three in reprisal attacks in Kaduna. Self-defense, Masari defends stance, this Mrs. Call for resignation. And of course, FAN in 140 billion Naira financial mess owes staff pensioners, contractors. Those are the stories on the daily sun. Let's go to the Guardian newspaper. The headline reads, autumn Ohanes, a fall in a kick over known grazing roots. Vanuay governor threatens legal action against Buhari, ranching. Federal government should allocate 6.25 billion Naira to other states. That's according to Falunar. Here about groups analysts say federal government's move and invitation to war and anarchy. Famers say federal government should procure land for all, not only herders. Why CBN's $50 billion intervention fails to rally confidence in stock market. Gunmen kill 12 persons in fresh Katsina attack. 500 COVID-19 deaths recorded at Lagos isolation center. Why we oppose Obian Naira's proposed 60 billion Naira supplementary budgets by ZLP. Lastly on the Guardian, Gumi tells politicians that they're milking Nigerians. And now to the daily trust, PDP crisis. Anxiety as seconders rejects October deadline. Aircraft handling, federal government operators lose $28 million yearly. Taraba, Fulani air leaders, hand over 11 kidnappers and gun runners to police. Doctors in mass exodus amidst NARD strike. It says less than 40,000 doctors, 7,200 million Nigerians. Federal government should develop emergency intervention, says the NMA. We can also see here bandits released 15 more students of Bethel Baptist, Katoa unrest, Joss Muslim communities to protest, or to protect churches. And Buhari's son's wedding, Gumi blast politicians who flew jets to Bichie. Good morning, Mr. Tunde Kallawale. Thanks for joining us once again. Good morning, my brother. All right, we probably can start with the story on the release of the 15 more Bethel Baptist school kids. It's celebration for those parents, but it still says about 60 plus are still in captivity. Quickly, react to that please. Well, I want to rejoice with the parents of the Baptist school students that had been released. I also rejoice with the state government. All parents who have seen this on the pages of the newspaper, this money will be glad to receive it. Thank God they get our back home. No one is still comfortable. My children will be adopted within the confines of Nigeria. And they will stay that long in the kidnappers' den. We aren't doing enough to secure the safety of our children. And it is the future of the Nigerian nation that is at stake now. When children are scared, when they cannot go freely to school and have the peace of mind to do their studies and all that, I will be able to produce the leaders of tomorrow. And related to that story, there's also another one in there which says that some other school children have equally been kidnapped. I think about 12, 12 of them or more. About 12 percent somewhere else. The bandits are releasing some students. They also keep nothing they want. And why is it so? It is because we probably have a relation. We probably think that the security people are not being enough. I have always said there should be layers upon layers of security around children when they are in school. There are also technologies all over the world now to be able to locate ten points where these children might be kept by the bandits when they are taught there. And there are all sorts of tranquilizers, mentalizers like some grenades that can be thrown. We throw the kidnappers then and everybody goes in there to sleep and then the security will go and evacuate the children and arrest the bandits wherever they may be. But nobody appears to be thinking in this direction and it is very sad. More importantly, the quality of the world you have the ability to kidnappers and bandits and empowering them. And they pay huge sums of unusual sums which and they have taught people also seem to be foiling this. You see, are going to be paying kidnappers and bandits in the northern parts of the country. What moral justification do we have as a nation to continue to prosecute Evan who is standing trial here in Lagos for kidnapping people for ransom? If what is good for good not equally good for Gandalf, the public should also have released Evan, rehabilitated him and ask him to go home and say no more. So these are very, very pertinent and troubling issues that we as a nation require to really address. We have no more than just case or whatever, like I said, to continue to try Evan to continue to try some of the boys in Naipa and some other people may have alleged who are standing trial for kidnapping and banditry in the southern part of the country. We should have equal policies the same measure for whoever is engaged in this kind of heinous crime. All right, Mr. Kolaouale, I want us to take a look at the story that has made the headlines across the papers about grazing routes. And it says, autumn blows hot, plants to soothe Buhari. Also, we see it on the Guardian newspaper, Falano, as well as Ohane's, Indigo is kicking over this. Now, we know that this grazing routes discussion came up, you know, quite a while ago. And despite the fact that the southern governors have said that they are against this and are starting September 1st, they will ban open grazing in their state, the president seemed to want to go ahead to revive grazing routes to the country. But now autumn is taking this to court. So what do you foresee to be the outcome of this if this eventually goes to court? Yeah, thank you. This is a very, very interesting story and your question is very beautiful. Let me say I'll try to, that you and I will know that there is no love lost. The king of now autumn and the president of Buhari. When the killings in the state for the state, you will recollect that the president said he was going to stand in secret general of police of the state to unravel what is happening there and bring the situation under control. But right under the president's note, the idea of police refused to go to the state to do anything. And the president didn't apply any function against the idea of police. For me, I smell a rat in there. It must be that the president in the first instance never wanted the idea of police to go in there. It could also be that the president was not explained to the gallery. It could also be that somebody is enjoying what is happening to the people in the state. Wanted to punish them. For the intercedency of their governor who has always been seated on the right of his people. As to what I'm going to call, I'm not sure that much is going to come out of there. Why do I say this? I say this because we have the executive of government, the presidency, the autonomy of the federation, the Department of State Security Service, the Nigerian police, who have no respect whatsoever for the rule of law. And we have all this drag and play. This will be court orders. So when you take them to court and now that, it is good to take them to court and leave to be on record as civilized people. That rather than engaging the FF, you as a governor, you as people of the military, you went to court to seek return for your rights that are being violated. Such that when in future, you have the responsibility of the government, people have respect for the rule of law, people will be court orders. And you can always invoke whatever order to get in court for compensation or at least to bring to book those who are flagrantly disobeyed court orders. When someone was done with respect to this, a great solution. As to the southern governors and war lawyers, they have not merely seen their heads against the wall. So they have seen that even though they are described as the chief security officers of their state, do they really have the quality power? Do they have the security forces, the police, the army, the navy and order to defend and enforce whatever security they want to enforce in their respective states? The answer is no. No governor can give another to a commissioner of police to carry out any security activity within the confines of the state and then the commissioner of police will obey. Rather, the commissioner of police will first call the I.G. of police to inform me and to ask for permission to carry out whatever order the governor may have been in. And then the I.G. will call the president. Who solely appoints the commissioner of police? Even though that is not what the commissioner prescribes, it is the police for this commission and council that should appoint, that should certainly appoint the commissioner of police. So they say that the governor don't have the quality power to enforce the new, the grating, the ban on open grating that law that they have all enacted, makes the law just redundant and something that can only be enforced when in future the public will have the state police that they can send into the forest and order to ensure that this new grating, that this ban on open grating other than in parts of Nigeria could be enforced. I'm not also sure that I might tell them that they do have all the eastern Nigeria security network or it will be as they see in the east can enforce the new open grating in the southern part of the country. The massive, massive power that is at the end of the federal government will be used to frustrate and also to ensure that they don't enforce the open grating rules. And so the presidency that is being set up on open grating, I will want to say that they are the worst enemies of the fuller people, of the open grating people that we do have in the country. When you have those so-called open grating rules before independence and all that, the population of Nigeria wasn't this big. The desert has not encroached, so most of the places it has encroached to be and for the most scientific means of the animal advantage has been developed to the level which it has developed now. If anybody loves the fuller name, what kind of a person will be doing is to encourage them to engage or embark on ranch agriculture so that the animals can be better fed and produced, more meat and more milk and more grains for production of food, birds and water. And also for the fuller name children who will be able to go to school and then live a decent and normal life that the children of other tribes and clans in Nigeria are living. More importantly, this elective of Mr. Pedro the presidency is in sharp contradiction to what he had gone to Casino to do. The same presidents as Mr. Pedro about six billion, now to the government of Casino to start developing ranch agriculture in Casino states. So if we have done that, why would the same government not be insisting on open grazing from other parts of the country when you're already putting that money to develop ranch agriculture in Casino states? Like we used to say, what is good for the goods will equally be good for Canada. What the presidency should have done if they love the fuller name person and if they want peace throughout the length and breadth of Nigeria is to equally make the same resources and then they put to all the states of the tradition so that they can begin to develop ranch agriculture. There is no future in open grazing either for the fuller name or for the Nigerian nation. All right, you can also quickly share your thoughts on the events in Worry over the weekend with the coronation of the new law of Worry. It was of course a long event. Hello, my brother, Lada. I'm asking if you can also share your thoughts on the coronation of the old law of Worry. It also makes the papers this morning. Oh, fantastic, fantastic. You know, I am not a fan of the monarchy. The reason why I'm not a fan of the monarchy is simply because I've become a situation in which somebody who just by an accident of birth become a leader and begin to preside over their people. I would rather think that it is individuals intellectual capacity, their contributions to society, their understanding of the management practices and culture that should determine who becomes a culture. But since that institution has not been scrapped with an insistence, they also draw their followers on the movement from the taxpayer's money. Yeah, we continue to tolerate them as it was on to probably the institution is scrapped because even in Britain, as we are today, where you have the coin and not a. A lot of people are negotiating that there's a situation to be scrapped that it is a kind of parasite on the taxpayer. And they are no longer relevant. They are no longer contributing anything to the society. And that society is within a multiple institution that doesn't have any place in the democracy. For the young man, I congratulate our leader, Professor, who has become the leader of Worry. And the tone of the leader of Worry is a very, very important term. It is an old age term that is a very, very prestigious. The young man is well educated and all manners of something block has been placed on the spot before now, because that it probably would have been the leader of Worry from 50 years ago. But certain people came up with the traditional policy that since his mother is not from the name or from Worry, the question of friends in becoming the leader of Worry and because of that his uncle, Niko, was made the leader of Worry until the man passed away recently due to COVID-19. The concern of Nigeria friends as a discrimination on the basis of that, on the basis of religion, on the basis of ethnicity. It is repugnant to natural justice. The state because a man's mother is not from the name or from certain places, then he's not entitled to certain things. That is not the grain of our law. That is not the spirit and let us open up conscience. Now that the sanity has regained, I congratulate the leader of Worry and wish him the best of luck throughout his time of stewardship. I also want to remind them that there has always been a bond between the Yoruba people and the sacred people because they are cousins. For the presence of the law of Worry's father, never understood that he severed all the relationship that used to exist between the Yoruba and the sacred for reasons best known to him. And I am saying that the relationship between the Yoruba and the sacred is a symbiotic relationship. They are both cousins, the Yoruba and the sacred people. And when you also look at the sacred people and the Yoruba people, so many sacred leaders, like Alfredo Wani and so many of them have used their resources to promote Yoruba cause. Some of them, like Alfredo Wani, also sacrificed his life to promote Yoruba cause. Alfredo Wani was key because of his struggle to get a nation of M.K. Abela as the president, revalidated. Alfredo Wani taught his life, put his resources behind the Yoruba people, behind the activists in the whole world to realize his political ambition. All right, Mr. Kolo Wali. And look forward to the new Yoruba sending the relationship between the Yoruba and the sacred people with cause. The sacred people are an endangered species, very small tribe. When strokes become pushing, they might need a larger tribe like the Yoruba to protect their income. All right, Mr. Kolo Wali, let's finally take a look at the big story on the punch. And it's about the federal government vassals, the National Association of Resident Doctors. Now, we know that this matter, the federal government took it to the industrial court, but President Mohammed Buhari actually ordered on Friday that negotiations should continue. And according to the story, more negotiations are supposed to continue today and that there should be another memorandum of understanding signed today. But now it is saying that they are tired of signing MOUs, that if signed MOUs, MOAs, you name it. And what they need now is for the government to begin to pay and they do not want any more promise. But we see the minister here saying that they're not negotiating with NARD, that they're negotiating with the Nigeria Medical Association. So I don't know how you see this matter here, where the NMA, rather, the NARD is refusing to sign any more MOUs, saying that the federal government cannot be trusted while NGIGI here is saying that all negotiations that they would do would be with the NMA and that the NMA can go ahead and dialogue with NARD. What is happening in the sector is a monumental tragedy. It is not what should be happening in this era of the pandemic when people are dying like flies all over the place. What is the difference between NARD and NMIG? Are they not the same branch of the same medical people? The NMA are just the resident doctors. Why the NARDs are the resident doctors? Why? Why the medical doctors is just the umbrella for them? For me, NGIGI would be saying that they didn't negotiate with NAMG, but only the NMA. It doesn't make sense to me. The minister is just playing on semantics or is just being clever by heart. The truth of the matter is that our sector, like the educational sector, like the infrastructure sector are not being properly funded and we require to fund these places the way they should be funded. If we had done the NMIG food since the beginning, the medical tourism that we see Mr. President do pre-hospitalism, that he send nothing back to upon when he had a NARCIDEN and that the wife also does it regularly and all that, wouldn't have been there. And you know, this government has been empowered now for about six years and within the last six years they have not been able to put in place a decent, well-equipped and well-stabbed medical institutions anywhere in the country. It wouldn't be too much by now. If we have at least about six, well-equipped, well-stabbed, well-trained and beautiful infrastructure in six geopolitical zones where people can go in there and see treatment. But I think the government is not committed to that project. My advice to the NARG and the NMIG are not those who work in the medical sector. It would be like my advice to the I mean to the university teachers and look, let all of us concentrate on good governance. There is no aspect of a life that is properly funded. The NMIG, the NARG, the answer to people cannot live as a life, as a knowledge of comfort in the society in which they are living, in which every other sector is in a deployable condition. If we all team up together and fight for the government and we put good people in government and all that, there will be a better and more rational location of resources and all creatures of our life, whether it be education, whether it be the N sector, whether it be infrastructure, whether it be even security that all of you will be properly funded. It is utopia for the doctors, whether it be NMIG, it is utopia for the academic people to think that they cannot well funded in hospitals, well funded universities, well funded for social, when there are no good people in government. It's impossible, it's utopia. That is the direction with the society should be moving. And also for us to start creating a notice of influence, a notice of wealth, a notice of a better pay, or potential pay for certain persons. We don't work that way. We have tried this in the justice system and we judges and the judges are being paid specialised salaries. We thought we need to pay them good salaries and all that. That will stop corruption and then our hospitals, I mean our courts will start running smoothly. There won't be too many backlogs or cases but that happened as it stopped corruption in the justice system as the courts working smoothly and efficiently the way they show up is entirely of the Supreme Court. Not sweet up to the year 2023. But this is the reality. Let all professionals in this society come together and fight for good governance especially not until 2023 is around the corner. And if you start living this life of utopia that will carry them nowhere. All right, Mr. Kolaule, we will wrap up the conversation here. Thank you very much for starting our Monday with us. Thank you. We wish you a very interesting week ahead. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. It's a pleasure speaking with both of you. Thank you. Stay with us. We'll take a short break. When we come back, we're going to be looking deeper at the Petroleum Industry Act and the controversy surrounding it. Reactions from the Niger Delta mostly and will be joined by two very, very interesting persons to share their thoughts on the recent developments. Stay with us on the breakfast.