 People can lie to themselves. Like how many times have you guys trained people and they're overtraining They're under eating and you're like, so how do you feel? Oh, I feel great. I love it You know, this is all working out great for me and you're like wait I don't know if you really know what feeling good feels like you feel hyper You feel lots of cortisol which gives you a certain kind of energy, but maybe you don't necessarily feel better So I like feeling better once a person is really in tune But it's so subjective or is you know, if you had ten pounds of the bar You had a ten pounds of the bar. It's pretty clear if you did five more reps You did five more reps and if your diet is off if your training is off if your sleep is bad It's hard to see strength gains when those things are great metric Yeah, because you can just trick yourself all day with like your energy levels or you know How well you're doing in the gym other than like strength being that one thing that consistently if you're seeing progress Or you're not seeing progress. That's how you need to kind of adjust and also maybe Refocus what you're doing so you can get strong in a different direction than what you're doing before that Hey real quick, we're gonna continue with the show. We got some cool stuff coming up But real quick. I want to give away a workout program. 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It's really hard to get stronger when you're doing one of those things wrong Do you do you think this is a fake it the single best indicator if you're on the right track Or do you think there's other things that are you know superior to it? There's nothing's perfect, right because you could definitely get stronger And do other stuff wrong it's just hard to get stronger and not feed yourself enough or get poor sleep or over train or under train It's also not perfect because as you progress if you're advanced You can't always look at strength strength gains eventually slow down and stop I would say you know how you feel is probably better The problem with that is it's so subjective. Whereas strength is like Oh, yeah added five pounds of bar like a very clear cut Not only that there's a there's a lot of things that could make you feel better Like you're your attitude and mood and like other things you could be having a terrible program But life is good. You just had incredible sex last night. You got a promotion at your job Like you just you start to look at everything a lot different. So I don't like that one I think I think strength is more it could also be that like people can lie to themselves Like how many times have you guys trained people and they're over training they're under eating and you're like How do you feel? Oh, I feel great. I love it. You know, this is all working out great for me And you're like wait, I don't know if you really know what feeling good feels like you feel hyper You feel lots of cortisol which gives you a certain kind of energy, but maybe you don't necessarily feel better So I like feeling better once a person is really in tune But it's so subjective or as you know if you had 10 pounds of the bar You had a 10 pounds of the bar It's pretty clear if you did five more reps you did five more reps And if your diet is off if your training is off if your sleep is bad It's hard to see strength gains when those things are great metric Yeah, because you can just trick yourself all day with like your energy levels or you know How well you're doing in the gym other than like strength being that one thing that consistently if you've seen progress Or you're not seeing progress. That's how you need to kind of adjust and also maybe Refocus what you're doing so you can get strong in a different direction than what you're you know Doing before that. It's a great metric, but it's still flawed too course No single metric if you take if you take a complete newbie who has not strength trained either ever or in a very long time And you throw the worst training program at them. Okay, just like terrible programming over training bad exercises poor rest They can get stronger because it's it's so novel to the body that you'll see it now It'll it'll it'll last for yeah It'll come to a halt real quick But the initial couple weeks when you're first game or maybe even a month or two of training for a newbie I think sometimes that can be deceiving. Yeah, how many times have you seen that you or you you know the person's not following a good regimen But they're seeing strength gains and so therefore they think like it's really work Yeah, it won't last forever and you're right. No single metric is perfect. It's just one of the better Single metrics I would say that you could measure but you know, I I could say I guess loosely and generally speaking Probably for the first, I don't know two or three years of your consistent training routine You know program or career or whatever the first two or three years if you see Relatively consistent strength gains, which you can do in the first three years after that it gets really hard Things start to plateau Obviously, I'd be benching a thousand pounds by now if I could continue to get stronger But within the first three years if you see these relatively consistent strength gains where you look at your chart and you see Month over month some increases in either repetitions or strength because it's not always linear You're probably on the right track because if you're underfeeding or you know, not eating ride or you're over training under train It's gonna be hard to see that but yeah, you're right in the very beginning Almost anything you do you can see strength gains, but it won't last very long Well, and I think too to to be able to see other Directions like so if I'm looking at increasing my range of motion but getting strong in that range of motion It's a different pursuit than just seeing me load more weight And so there's other ways of evaluating strength Other than just you know that I'm progressively overloading consistently. Yeah, good point Like can I do am I doing a larger range of motion with good control with the same weight as before that means I'm stronger Do I feel more stable and solid that means I'm stronger mobility is strength driven So that's the other thing I think is is confusing like it's just a tribute that's a flexibility But really what you're doing is getting strong and supported around your joints talking about mobility and joints You guys have me thinking about this this weekend so I got with my buddies that we go back like 30 30 years right and They the two of them both have kids. They had kids before me, right? So that we have Justin with a four-year-old and then Jared with a three and then I have the two and a half-year-old So it's always neat when we get together because I can kind of they're always a little bit ahead of me So hearing like what's going on? So and I had this moment where I kind of pulled myself out of like the conversation about oh my god How much has this conversation like change, right? We used to get together was all sports and talking shit and stuff like that now It's like dad apps is like like how did you figure to get your son down so so quick, right? So we were sharing Justin's Justin has the oldest right and he's like oh, bro He's like right right now my wife has the the newborn so she's taking him And then I have her and then I have my son and he goes she doesn't know this right now But nights have gotten pretty easy because now he has this like out of randomly I'll go upstairs to do our little routine where we read and he'll say daddy. I'm tired. I just want to go to bed He's like okay, you know, so so we skip cool Yeah, we skip the reading and he goes right to bed and so we start we start talking about that you lay in there So his wife, yeah, oh totally so she thinks that he's like really having to work to put the ticket Yeah, but yeah, yeah put his son down. He'll lay in there He's totally saying that so we got into talking about like putting the kids to sleep and there's like this universal thing that I Guarantee you guys obviously have probably gone through this because you're ahead of me also of You know, there's a phase where you know, they're kind of going down by themselves But you still got to be there and then you and you wait till they kind of fall asleep and then you sneak out of the room You know and at least my son like he has to feel you, you know So I'll lay in the bed next to him and then like every once in a while. He'll do this You know to make sure I'm there and we all had this to the mobility and joint thing that it remind me of is Man, it's a hard night to get him down to sleep. I finally get him like I think he's out and I creep away I slowly do the finger thing right so all five fingers on his back And then it's four then three then two Right, and then you were just in magician. Yeah. Yeah, you magician your way out You roll off the bed all smooth and then your fucking old joints Pop dude, and then he hops up and he wakes up dad, you know Started all over again It's like every one of us have had that experience of trying to sneak out of the room after I'm trying to put So my toes again, yes My knees that's what I have a on my left foot my big toe It snaps so what I what I figured out is I have to keep my foot bent While I'm putting him down because if it's straight and then I bend it it makes the pop below pop also And this was when this was when my son was younger. He goes down really easy now Which is really cool. Thank God because before we have this other baby. It's like I can't deal with two So he's going down really easy but before when it was tough Jessica literally mapped out the room and where you step so that the floor doesn't creep. Oh, yeah So she's like floorboard. Yeah, so she's like you got to walk over here and walk around the edge And then you come over here. Otherwise the floor is gonna so it's like you're navigating this minefield, you know Yeah, it's like the mission impossible where he goes through all those lasers and like doing the thing Yeah, see that part. Oh, I love so this was like this was the conversation for like We were like in it for like 45 minutes and I had the and we're laughing and going back for when I pull myself Oh my god, how much has this changed and then I pulled up the video I had to I have to share this video that Justin share. I Freakin died now. Did Courtney is she the one who caught it? Yeah, so she was at home with the boys, right? Oh, I love this video and so Everett who is like a mini Justin, right? So I just can't help but every time I see him. I was like, oh my god He's so he's so Justin, right? Yeah, and he's a carbon. Yeah, there's a there's a video Courtney's and it looks like she's it from her kitchen or dining room inside the house and she's videoing Everett out there and he's got one of those like, you know those little trike bike things like a hoverboard But it has like an attachment that goes over it makes it like a go-kart. Yeah, and she you could tell she She starts videoing it because she's watching him and you can see that she kind of knows what's coming Like cuz he starts he starts like spinning himself Right, and he's and he's going around around and it's and it's the funniest thing ever because he has no idea He's being watched and you see him after he's done and she's like kind of narrating over it like oh He's about to feel this right He's sitting there and he's just like He's like holding his head the mistake just like sets it totally did it to himself and all sick Yeah, watch him, you know, and she caught it all Because he stops and he's like oh, yeah, and I bet you he did it again after oh, yeah He did again. He's he just he's just like that and again It's it's really kind of weird to watch from afar. It's like oh my god It's like watching myself like go through all these like stages of Childhood, you know, that was one of those where you just you find your limit and you just go for it, dude You know, that's the thing and yeah, he's been cracking me up lately Ethan's been hanging out with his buddies and stuff all weekend so I hung out with him pretty much all weekend and took him around and stuff and we we were watching TV and So Courtney and I were watching TV. We had these memories of Baywatch as being like oh, yeah That was a choice to watch as a kid, you know, and it had like Baywatch remasters We're like, yeah, let's watch this with Everett, right and I don't know if you guys like remember it all the slow-mo intro Literally is like soft-core porn. Yeah. Yeah slow-mo intro Don't you remember that that classic intro to it though the way the whole thing is a montage of just like he's bouncing Yeah, they're like fake working out together and the guy shirtless and then the other girl is like just like Pretending to pick something up and he's like right behind her helping her and stretch I'm like, oh my god, I was it was so awkward, but I was like also like, you know, like this is I'm like preparing him PG-13 in the 80s and 90s was is not what PG-13 is today If you watch PG-13 from the 80s and 90s, it's it would not fly I feel like it's the same stuff The only difference is that the it was subtle back then and we're now it's just straight in your face Well, no, no, literally if you watch PG-13 today, it's it's it's less bad. It was worse than the 80s and 90s I've done this right I've watched movies. I'm all PG-13. We can watch this I'm watching like I can't this is not cool for my kids. Let's change real. I don't remember them doing this or saying this or Whatever. Yeah, well, it's like they were like the one but dude I mean, it's like cut like this dude and and I was popular Yeah, but but then though it was funny because there's this one episode where there was an old man And he was like pretending to have a heart attack and it's cuz one of the hot chick out there was wearing this Almost bikini, but it was just barely kind of Cut like a Brazilian cut or ever it wasn't even a thong. I'm like, dude. He his heart would have exploded in today's Instagram land, you know Part of that is because you're a dad now, of course like if you your perception changes Yeah, I think I think some of it is just that because I imagine that you know our parents Probably thought the same thing when they saw Baywatch watch. Oh my god. I can't believe watch an old movie But they watched it with us. That's the awkward because your dad wanted to watch My dad used to because it was all VHS so what he would do is he would just fast-forward it So I would see the sex scene. It would just be fast-forward with the like the lines, you know Nothing is more awkward than watching a movie as a young teenage boy with your parents in a sex scene That is like the most awkward Moment like I that is more embarrassing or awkward for me than probably anything that happened to me at school Yeah, what was a watch watch an old movie where there's like teenagers running amok and parents are like like What's that one where the dude skip school? It's real Ferris Bueller. Okay. Watch Ferris Bueller Yeah, or watch the breakfast club now when I watch those as a kid I was Ferris Bueller. I was the kids in detention now when I watch I'm like that kid What the hell is the principal now? Yeah, now I'm the principal in the breakfast. I'm like those kids are fucked I hope the principal came up. I'll mess with the bull young man. You'll get the horns As I'm watching I'm like I can't believe these kids. Yeah, so totally change angry. Yeah, and the other thing too that changes is 10 o'clock is something different than it used to be 10 p.m 10 p.m. Used to be like it's only 10. Let's go out now this happened last night I'm watching TV with Jessica. I'm kind of tired. I looked at the clock and like 10 15 Tomorrow's ruin. Yeah. Hey, how was your it was your trip down to see Tom? Oh, it was great, man I had a good time down in LA. I went down there to I was on his podcast his show You got to go in the big bajillion dollar mansion. Yeah gorgeous house I didn't see much of it, but I did see where he has like the studio setup. It's I think it's the house I'm pretty sure it's the house that was on the first episode of selling sunset the pilot episode the one where They're on the deck my son's favorite show and Why are we watching this again Max Max is into a dream I was learning about real estate No, it looked I mean from what I saw it looked absolutely gorgeous and you guys know Tom He's such a nice, you know just gracious person. So we had a good conversation So it was a good time good staff and got to meet his team over there Then I went down and met with the with the team over at regenerative who we work with at MP hormones Great culture, you know, you walk into it. You guys know this with gyms You can walk into a gym and in five minutes, you know This is a successful club and this one is not a successful by the vibe and the cold early They have a great culture in there as soon as you walk in and you can see people are friendly They're talking everybody's having a good time. Everybody's working hard Everybody looks, you know, like they fit and they take care of themselves and just great energy. Yeah Great they've been growing a lot on like hiring people dude I didn't know this so they actually do they do at their clinic in LA. They do stem cell Therapy to oh cool. Yeah, so they do that as well. Oh, yeah, and they have other stuff that they do It's just so nice. Yeah, because before it was like your only option was good Look Panama and it was like illegal, you know to get like stem cell. Yeah Treatments the stem cell stuff is really starting to really kind of make its way I don't I don't follow it that much so I'm not even familiar with like what what is it best for like? I imagine that because there's a lot of things that they've used it for right? Yeah So are there certain do you know if there's like certain things like men's stem cell is like life changing for this and this It works sometimes for this like so I am like I'm not super privy to it I just from the conversations I had with with the people are over at You know down a regenerative I did a little bit of reading afterwards So I I do know that stem cells are essentially cells that can be turned into any cell, right? So it's the beginning of a cell your body can use that cell to make more cartilage to regenerate or help a an organ or inflammation or whatever apparently Now I know some of the treatments are direct so like you inject directly into a knee If you want to recover faster or whatever But I guess you can also put it in your bloodstream and it goes to where your body needs it So they were telling me about someone who had COPD which is a condition of the lungs through the stem cell treatment totally reversed it Which I mean this is an anecdote. So it's one person, but it's crazy. I want to do some more reading on it I remember when we interviewed. What's his name over in Florida? Name slipped my mind Lane Robert Tony Robins. Thanks Tony. He talked about the like how much of a Ham and other people so I'm really interested I want to look I want to start reading more about and I know people swear about it You know, I know people who've done it themselves and have said it's like it fixed my back or my shoulder or whatever Yeah, I just don't I just don't know how Like what the the percentage of success is like I have no idea people talking about it. I know it's really expensive But I didn't know like okay. Is this like a 50-50 shot or is it guaranteed? It's gonna make me at least feel better. Maybe it even heals this area like I haven't done enough Diving into it to really to really fully understand. Yeah, it's crazy I'll tell you what though going through because I had to go from airport to Obviously, we're all staying to Tom's. Oh, no mass now, right? No. No. So well, yeah, that's good We have that too. So no mass at the airport now some people still do it still do it I would say fashion statement now. Maybe I would say probably Maybe 15 to 20 percent. Maybe maybe a little that maybe 15 percent much still. Well, I wasn't I mean I mean in California still so I'm assuming different states are gonna have different course, you know percentage of people And I do understand it's always gonna be the case. I have a feeling it will yeah, it's like, you know Like five percent or two percent. I feel like if you've committed this far, you may as well go on and stay with it Yeah, that's how I feel, you know, if you're if you're in on it that far I know what there's potential risks of not wearing one although the data shows real-world data shows that it didn't do anything Probably because people don't use Proper medical protocol and use the exact right mask and good luck trying to get lots of people or kids to do that Because we never consider that when we pass legislation. We always just say this looks good. Sounds good. Yeah, we don't equate human behavior But nonetheless, I tell you man Seeing people's faces is important for your health. It really is it's the one part of the So much your brain is dedicated to re-reading facial expressions and reading people's faces More than any other part of their body and what we do is we cover each other up and then you're in public and you don't in my Opinion is you don't get the same Value that you get from being around people because you don't see faces. You just see bodies. It's a weird thing It's I've always said this even before any of this happened was just I'd never trusted somebody with a mask on That's just one of those things. You just like it you think there's an ulterior motive You think they're up to some mischief like they're just that sort of conditioning has already been there with me my whole life So it's like to get me to Totally conformed to to seeing people differently was tough. Well, you can't read people Have you guys ever had a friend who's just like socially does not read cues Like does not pick up on like people at all. I had social cues. You're like, oh my god How does he not feel that or like the vibe? Yeah, so I mean you've had me you've obviously You guys have met people like this. Yes. So I wonder if like this time period is going to Create a Percentage more of people that are like that, right? You've all had like and that person's kind of an anomaly Most people like if someone gives you like this weird look you kind of get it like if I'm talking to somebody It doesn't take very long for me to pick up if they're interested in hearing what I have to say or not Yeah, you don't say what you said was taking the wrong way Right, we're gonna go through a preteen kind of phase but there's everybody has that friend or person They know that just does not pick up on social cues So I'm wondering if these like this past two years is going to have created a Much bigger percentage of those people than we've ever well I'll tell you what so if you travel to different countries and you stay in another country for a month or longer Because I've done this before as a kid. We went we would go visit family in Italy We'd stay for the whole summer and there's cultural differences in cues and facial expressions That when I would go to Italy for two months I would start to adapt to the cues there and I'd come back and there would be a period of adapting back over here And I know Doug you went to Japan. Was it similar for you where you were reading cues and body Yeah, absolutely, right. So so what we did essentially is we blocked a big part of that for a long time I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a period of re-learning Kind of some of that stuff's gonna be awkward for a lot of people for a little while So it's and I did I did I saw people that were not just masked They were masked visor Goggles gloves like full-on everything and I'm like man that that sucks to be that this to feel that afraid I guess or it's a thing. It's like that fear still there for a lot of people Yeah, so but then the other thing to see I wasn't what I was gonna say is driving through LA It's had to go from place to place and there were kind of a distance man I went through some homeless encampments that were Massive and LA huge like driving through. I'm like, wow, this is crazy What's the number up to Doug? Do you know what the number is down at LA homeless? It's crazy, right? It's like 70,000 I think it's a it's a big no, it's a huge. I think it's like I mean they have areas in LA They're like dedicated just like homeless. Yeah, like huge in camp. Oh, yeah So I drove through some that were just I couldn't believe how big some of these encampments were. Yes, I made a number Doug I see numbers here for 2020 which is 66,000 That's a city, I know It's a mental health and just public health Crisis that definitely needs have you ever seen the stats on what percentage of that is that is what mental health? Yeah, when we talked to dr. Drew. Yeah, now. This is kind of something that he's really working on He said north of 85% because there are people who are temporarily homeless They typically don't have they have problems like something happened challenges They're temporary homeless trauma or something people who like live on the streets He said oh 85 90% of them have severe mental illness that you got to deal with and and they're all and you know addicted to drugs So it's it's like you can't you have to treat those people. Otherwise, you're not gonna get get it fixed, you know Yeah, really crazy. Have you guys seen now? You've probably seen all the memes with Johnny Depp and everything kind of floating around He was in court. He was in court this past week. Yes, I haven't paid attention All I know is is that the girl the amber herd ever heard Okay, this is his girlfriend wife who is his wife. Okay, so they've had back and forth I guess like so it's a defamation case. So it's like she basically I've always wanted shit on somebody's bed, you know, okay, so I said it right. That's like the ultimate So I guess like she wrote something in some piece like some article You know talking about abuse and this that they back and forth they both been kind of No, she's lying or he's lying or whatever And so this is another case about a specific article that she wrote I guess okay, and my point of bringing this up was really just that we're getting Inundated with this and the live coverage all this kind of stuff and meanwhile. We got none of this from Gizlain Maxwell and that whole like trial. We're like not funny like completely removed From all those details all the people involved all because it's like such powerful people involved with that case But now oh, here's the star that you guys know and here's his wife who revenge pooped on his bed And then it just turns into like this whole media coverage around that. Yeah, you know what? I so isn't that like a do thing to do is that not what is that sexist for me to say like dude shit on beds girls Don't really I don't know anybody that's ever done this What do you mean doesn't that feel like that's like a guy move to do that? Don't you feel like that like a prank? Maybe you just in like okay, what group of girls do you know that sit around like you know We should we should shit on that motherfuckers bed. Yeah, like she got angry She had one chambered like ready to go then she just like it's a whole just process like yeah, you're right Adam Cuz it's very much usually usually they don't even admit to pooping let alone. Yeah claiming that one's mine Right that is kind of a guy thing. Yeah, okay I guess the security guard or whatever like took a picture of it and send it to him like he was somewhere like Coachella or something Like it's this like she just shit like right on his side. That is not your cat that got on the bed, buddy Yeah, one of the top three red flags Woman you should leave number one. She takes a crap on your bed. Yeah, you know It's she made to I thought that was interesting I did read some speculation on the Maxwell case and they said that one of the reasons why they didn't Televised a lot and air a lot and we're not hearing like it was too graphic for the public No, that that there it's it's leading to other Investigations and what they don't want to do is blow the cases. Yeah, I know yeah I know with all the cameras that went off and people committee sure these powerful people are gonna be in Yeah, they'll be saying that for the next eight years until everybody just forgets It makes me so mad who's in jail right now with all that who's in jail? Who's alive? Who's not still like she's in jail She's yeah in jail. I'm trying to think of any powerful Obviously, there's no real news about anybody going down that like we're part of the flight logs and all that kind of stuff Like they just you know, there's been some press around who actually like had interactions there But there's has many arrests How crazy is it that because Epstein was so connected with celebrities and wealthy and powerful people like the Kevin Bacon rule Yeah, it's like every every celebrity is like six degrees six degrees Well, how many things about this way? How many celebrities are like so afraid that just because they were at a party with them It took a picture sure like please God don't post up just because you stood next to him now Someone could post the picture and be like here you are with it's like, you know with Hitler. Ah, you know Oops, I know right crazy. Hey, so Elon succeeded looks like Wow Wow, I mean you I mean you said it before right that they cut either he forced their hand He kind of had by making an offer like that Like it that's their duty is to do what's best for their shareholders And if he's offering more than what the stock is trading at right now It's you I mean they kind of have to right or else they can get sued for that Yeah, what was the move so after they rejected the offer then he went and he rallied some more investor Yeah, he got some backing and he you know He could pay it that he could pay okay, so he showed his yeah, but they went around shopping other other stuff that Probably played a role. You guys know that governor DeSantis Threatened to take Twitter to court for not For not, you know upholding their fiduciary duties and potentially Harming Florida pensioners right because what they did they did what's called a poison pill where they yeah They lower the price of the share by diluting it making it harder to buy and What DeSantis said is we're gonna sue you because you hurt all these people who invested in your company and their pensions So what some people are speculating is the pressure of that Potential lawsuit made them go we better sell or we're gonna be kind of screwed here now My personal opinion is I don't like politicians using the power of the government to you know mess with their enemies or whatever That's a fine line. Yeah, and he's a bit authoritarian I don't like that he necessarily did that But I wonder if that played a role because now Twitter's like if we don't sell we're gonna get through this crazy lawsuit We're gonna be you know looked at all kinds of stuff can be brought to life I mean they they could have been sued by Elon too though, right? If he gives them a fair offer for that and it's their duty to have to like technically you could go to the SEC and bring up the case But remember this is the pen. This is that these are pension unions in Twitter. I'm excuse me in Florida very powerful Voting blocks and also when your enemy is Elon It looks different than when your enemy is a bunch of pensioners in Florida. Ooh, that doesn't look good, right? So that's the speculation that that played a role The Santas making some crazy moves man. He's going after Disney. I don't like that Yeah, I don't like I was being authoritarian with this like I mean, don't you feel like you kind of have to though to fight fire with fire? No That's why we're here dude That's why we're in this position is people are cool and their side does it and that raises the bar and then the next Other side does it and then they raise the bar and now we're at we're at now where it's like everybody's acting Somebody has to be like look right so all the extremes Like let's stop raising the bar with what we do here I know but who's who's gonna do a move big enough to Disney that can actually impact change in the opposite direction if you if we all agree that Disney was going way way this one direction, which I think that is the the feeling the market people the market will tell Them and the market started to tell them. That's it. That's it. Yeah, they're consumers Yeah, they're tax status in the status they had in Florida was since 1967 and Come on DeSantis totally reverse that as to use his sure political power Also, I mean they they have campaigned to basically sure, you know go against his his bill Look, it's all that was all like a misrepresentation. It's all technically legal But what I don't like is you know, you have governors or politicians saying this company's pissing me off Let's find a way to look at their tax status or their You know, how they're they're situated in the government. Let's make it harder for them and apply So do you think now though that big businesses will kind of like back off a little bit of the throttle of the political? I don't know realm. I really think it depends on who's running the show not because of them though I think the market is showing them right now. What time it is. I mean CNN plus. Oh $300 million streaming service. That's how much they invest it and they expected millions of subscribers in the first two months They got 10,000 subscribers shut down right Netflix tanking like Disney's getting hit really hard. I think them Can you pull their ticker up? They were they were bombing last week. Yeah, they were taking pretty bad. It sucks I don't you yeah, but you I mean, I don't think that that's I don't think that's just because of the whole them getting so woke I don't think that's why it's their tanking. I think there's other there's other factors at play here Especially with the streamers. I think other streaming services have gotten so good And I also think right people are paying six to seven dollars a gallon of gas right now and you're going I mean I know I know I know if I was in that position Okay, we're the difference the difference in my gas prices really started impact me that one of the areas I would ride away looked at streaming is streaming because I I have damn near everything And I know I don't use everything and so if I was trying to save 30 bucks 50 bucks here and there I would actually my buddy just did that one of our conversations We had this weekend was he's cut out a lot of these stream services that he says you know I just I evaluated which ones I really use And I just I got rid of all of them But that one and he goes and then if I have a show on HBO or show time that really I'll wait till the season And then I'll get it for a short window And what's so great is that you can you can cancel and and then subscribe again so easily Yeah, I think that played a role, but you can see that Netflix got hard HBO grew Disney got hit hard Amazon Prime, I think got hit a little bit But you know what I predict is I predict that these some of these streaming services are going to come out with a free option I bet you Netflix is going to come out and say here's our free commercial kind of like Spotify's model So now you can you can watch Netflix for free, but you get commercials. Yeah, I bet you that's what they're going to do Add money. Yes, and that's just the way the market's moving. Well, they're already talking about that I read a Netflix article. I think last week and brought on a show and one of the things They were already talking about how much revenue They they potentially could gain by selling selling ads on there So there's potential that Netflix was going to go that direction anywhere with the ad They either have that or the really cracking down on people So there's there's a you know, I think a few I think it was like a hundred million dollars worth of revenues that they could pick up by doing the ads and then by Cracking down on people that are sharing passwords So those are like they're too one of their too big plays to try and get them out of the out of the hole That they're in right now. So with elon buying twitter now. What do you guys think's going to happen with twitter? Well, I love what you should talk about like some of the tweets people are just They're just trying to test the waters right now, right? Like Oh, I was on there right now and then and there's people like people are tweeting like I like ivermectin and then someone Is Yeah, yeah only only women can have babies or the same things that are contrapped How does that work because those those are policies that have been passed by the board that are now Embedded in twitter obviously elon has the power to reverse it But since he's just the changing of powers happening right now and there's people people being funny and doing something like that I mean technically they could easily be removed still because it's still under The old policies. I guess I think until they change that I don't know I have no idea. This is like jack dorsi is sitting up there at the top going Speaking of which dorsi came out with a statement and said that elon buying twitter I'm gonna read his exact quote. He essentially is like this is a good thing. Of course it is You're talking about one of the most brilliant men and entrepreneurs. We've ever seen but dorsi Okay, so what did he say he said this is the right path So a lot of people don't know this but dorsi and a lot of his original Tech kind of moguls or whatever but dorsi was very much a free a free speech guy, of course and when he left There was speculation that he didn't like the fact that it got, you know, what people were taking off Pressure to remove people. He wasn't happy with the board. I believe all these guys are like that even weird old zucker burgers So I think they all weird He is fucking weird Most of their model is built on that is you know giving people free access and free speech and and they didn't come out with Trying to monitor. I think that's the the pressure of the shareholders and the employees and stuff It's this generation coming up right now That is extreme on that on that woke side And I think they're they're getting influenced and they're getting influenced by employees and by shareholders And so unfortunately and what sucks for them where I actually and I know everybody likes to hate on billionaires But where I have some empathy for them is I don't think it's what they want I think I think they feel like their hand is being forced probably so i'm sure dorsi's like fuck Yeah, give me my pay out. Let me cash out and I wonder if dorsi just from the sidelines I wonder if he played a role volatile in elon taking over too. Well, so I heard that I heard that Even though he only had what two percent ownership or whatever He still had a lot of influence on the board on whether they would do that And so the the rumor I heard was that he was very pro elon. Well, so so twitter interesting, right? I feel like what's gonna happen is if they if they're able to crack down on the bots And they start they start giving Authentication easier to people who can you can prove who they are. Yeah, didn't you have some plans about Making the the badge the Available to anybody if you pay for it. So basically authenticate, right? You show you're a real person So that way there's no question or dispute that you're bought. Yes. So doing all that I bet at first you're going to see a drop in a large drop in chunk of users and whatever He's going to clean things up. I've also seen people speculate that twitter is a bloated company With way more employees that are necessary. So I'm wondering if he's going to cut out a lot of the I saw that. Well, they're already like leaving a lot of them are leaving anyway That's what I think I mean I think we'll see but I mean this could be the beginning because this would make if he follows through with his promise of open-source algorithm getting rid of the bots Authenticating people My opinion will be that this will be the cleanest most real Fair social media platform. That's what I get excited just eliminating all these bots You know from how like how many times I've you seen arguments and you're like, are these even real people? Or is this just like a factory somewhere of troll of troll factory where people are just like like Literally influencing people. Well, that's to get an argument the brilliance of selling the verification badge is is so smart Because not only are you going to make a bunch of money because everybody's going to do it Wherever you as long as you price it somewhere fair But now if you don't have that badge, you don't take that person seriously They haven't been verified as a real human. Therefore you will assume they're a bot So it really will force a lot of these people in that direction Like hey, if I'm going to be active or build a business on twitter or what like that I'm going to spend the 200 500 even thousand dollars whatever he's going to make That that's going to drive revenue through the roof and it'll automatically it'll take any sort of power that these Random people have that are that are on that because they won't get verified because there's no conspiracy to this at all It's fact that there's been You know outside influences from other countries that have created these like Anonymous characters on there to just start shit It will disrupt the uh, you know the good old boys club the people that have got the badge that you know Are famous and a lot of pool and some of that because then they're not that big of a deal anymore Yeah, just another person who's I read that they asked up to 10 percent of twitter users are not Real or bots or these trolls. I saw that too. I would guess more be honest with you I mean, they're all like that instagram is that way facebook is that way twitter And I would have thought that twitter and instagram were the worst maybe instagram is even more Well, it has never like behooved them to remove it because Of course it's all about numbers now. I do want to say this because you know, I got I got booted off of uh, instagram And I new photos and I shared that photo. Did you see that photo? I shared it Well, you can't really download it. So it's a big file. So you gotta be careful small and blurry Anyway, I I got kicked off, uh, instagram and I felt it was unfair I don't I didn't do anything whatever and I could tell that they were after me because I started getting notifications on Things I posted in my story a year or two ago, even though they disappeared, which is really weird So they're not they only run for 24. So I knew something was up Eventually I get kicked off. I felt like it wasn't fair people like do you think we should regulate these companies? You think the government should regulate them no no no no because I know how markets work and eventually You'll see competition and what I don't want are bureaucrats Having the power to use these very powerful tools and they can manipulate them And then you're screwed then you can't compete because I'll make laws Against that and so I'm glad I'm you know stick to my guns and here we are Elon buys twitter it feels like now there's some other competition Yeah, and there's it's so interesting. I mean, I don't think it's that hard for someone to get booted I think that all it takes is enough people to band together and report you enough times I mean, I think it was the sixth time that I reported you by the time you finally got pulled off there Pulled off there. So it takes a few times. You can't just report you once they post a flexing picture No, really though. I mean, I know there's people that think that like, you know There's jack dorsi or some, you know, blue hair kid sitting there going like, oh my god I can't believe he said that cancel him get him off. It doesn't work like that You know what I too big it's like enough of these people get 20 30 people to all report you 10 15 times that's one way to do it I also think the algorithm that they'll create which we don't know what that says Can target other specific types of conversations or types of people or This is my belief. I got shadow banned once on instagram after that I was targeted I feel like once they put you on a list You're under a different set of rules and now they're very sensitive. So I think there there is a Automated list like that and the way the automated list and of course we're speculating right now, right? I think you have no idea you got enough people you ruffled enough feathers that enough people reported it That puts you in the shadow ban category Why can't we just have clear clarity some transparency? Well, that's the cool thing that Elon is going to say, right? I mean, or what he's saying he's going to do is at least like give you some clarity on how the algorithm works Which to me that would be uh, be amazing. Oh, that would be incredible. That's all we want Yeah, I don't want a mysterious editor telling, you know, like then if then it feels unfair like what's going on and okay I got kicked off because I said this comment. You got this Mola from Iran on there that literally, you know executes people just for being gay and he's on there You know doing his stuff. How the hell is this fair? You know what I'm saying? So if it's open source, then we can be like, well, it's clear. Here's the deal Here's where you crossed and you're done and I think that makes it, you know the best option But again, it's an open market getting interesting But I love all the people who were like, it's a private company. They could do what they want now that Elon, you know buys it We need more government regulations Shut up anyway, so how are you guys? So we did I want a little I guess kind of follow-up or review here We all did those the hair tests with dr. Cabral. Yeah, this is where they so people don't know Doctor we work with dr. Cabral and he he took samples of our hair Tested us for minerals electrolytes and toxic metals Or heavy metals. I should say all of us were a little different We all had a little bit of mercury which is kind of weird. So we think it might be something here In the studio But nonetheless, he put us on a supplement regime In order to detoxify from the heavy metal and also I needed more copper I know you needed some magnesium or zinc and so we're all in a little different regime Do you guys are you guys feeling any different yet or is it too soon? So I think it's too soon to notice that one of the things I I've realized about myself. Um, I'm really bad with Consistently taking that many pills. Yeah, so I order on amazon. I've got the whole I know I have to give you your supplements half the time. I'm just it's true Are you good? I did no, I got I actually bought it for the entire month. I have it with me So I have in the car I'll show you guys the one I got because it even splits up So it's a it's a seven-day pill box. It's ampm. It does as the ampm in there And I bought four of them. So those containers are not big enough for the amount of shit that I That's why I mean you and even the like what just the stack that I'm taking. I'm just I'm really not I'm not good at that. I've never been I've never been a big supplement taker. It's a routine It's a routine like you so have to get it in that and what sucks is like a multi-vitamins some of these pills That I'm taking like I have to do it with food And so there's a lot of mornings where I don't eat something right away I don't eat until my first meal until after we've podcasted in the morning sometimes and so I'm behind on that. I'm not so I've got everything now. So I bought all this stuff. I stacked it out I mean, it's a very Detailed regimen like he they give you not only do we get this great consultation where they break down Everything that's going on with me where I'm deficient what we what we need to supplement with But then he even gives you this print out of you know every single day morning night They do a really cool way of like color coordinated. These are all liquids. This is all pills This is optional. This is like must like So, I mean, it's I love I will say this is the only way in my opinion This is the only way to really take Nutrients properly and what I mean by that is You could take a general multivitamin or you could guess what to take But you don't really know unless you're tested and then like I would have not Guessed that I needed that my zinc to copper ratio Was a lot. I don't supplement with copper. Well, I don't think any of us would have guessed But what I thought was interesting was when he was reviewing it with us how like he doesn't know us personally I mean, we have like a small relationship with them not enough to know our habits and are eating it stuff But like I felt like we all could have guessed The report who it went to based off of where they were deficient Yeah, things he talked about so I thought that was really really interesting spot on with everybody to do The whole supplement stack and be consistent with all of it. It's not cheap at all But I mean, it's it's going to be customized to that person. So I think that's where Obviously they make up for it over the course. I'm on the zinc copper supplement with the right ratio. I have I'm doing the broken cell chlorella In cilantro that's to help with the the mercury I'm also doing sauna or steam or both Five days a week which helps so in my my breakdown It actually says to do the cleanse separate of my other stack. So I'm actually not running the cleanse right now So I don't and I didn't get clarity and if you take them together I think they'll they'll prevent the absorption of some right, so I'm not right now So I have everything I have all the supplements to do the mercury cleanse, but I'm actually just doing the other stuff So he's separating it by time not even in the day. Yeah. Oh interesting. Yeah, so there Yeah, you have to so I mean, I don't know if yours is like similar in that area or not But in mine it says to not take the the cleanse thing while also taking my other stack. So Right now I'm doing the I'm for me Obviously, I want to get all my levels balanced But I mean the hope for me is that this helps my psoriasis more than anything else Because it's an autoimmune issue and if I can get all this balanced out I'm hoping that I'm going to see that and I it's too early to tell you right now But I definitely I know I've been complaining you guys like it was the worst It's been in my life like after covid I'm back to much better really. Yeah, but I am yeah, and I hate I don't want to You know, I don't want to attribute all that to what I'm doing right now I feel like it's too early to do that But I I definitely am better than what I just was a month ago. So speaking of nutrients study just came out that They gave this was a really good study They gave uh, I think it was people over the age of 70. I want to say 60 or 70 2000 I use a vitamin D a day 1000 milligrams or a gram of omega threes every day and Two days or three days a week of basic strength training 30 minutes. Okay, so this was the regime that they put people on massive reduction in in cancer it was like It was like 30 reduction in cancer from doing those things And it was like a 50 or 60 reduction in all cause mortality from doing those three things vitamin d omega three Strength training now strength training by itself or resistance training When they were looking at the effects of there was another study. I looked at what they have compared different forms of exercise on health Strength training was the one that showed the greatest Anti-cancer risk more than cardio more than other forms of exercise. Yeah, really cool Fascinating. I mean in in in terms of supplements Those are usually the two that I tend to recommend the most because you'll find people are Definitely deficient uh for the majority of people are deficient in those nutrients Yeah, I feel like more so at least in my short fitness career I've heard vitamin d talked about more now than I did before I don't know if that's because of coven and the stuff it's because it's so low Like you test a bunch of yeah, what is it 60 60 some percent of all people are deficient Yeah, the numbers I saw were like 40 to 60 but even if it was 20 percent like it's a lot Yeah, that's millions and millions of people Yeah, and and being in a being deficient vitamin d acts like a hormone in the body being deficient vitamin d is not great I mean you talk about you're more anxious You're more depressed depression goes up You have hormone issues if you're a man your testosterone is going to be low if your vitamin d is low Do you know what the mechanism that it works like it works with an order because I know it's directly connected to testosterone too Right, if you have really low vitamin d levels, you also tend to have low testosterone What is it that causes? Do you know you don't know? I'm not quite sure But I know the way the body synthesizes vitamin d is it uses cholesterol Which is kind of this base molecule right to steroid molecule And when you're exposed your skin to the sun It uses the it turns cholesterol into vitamin d if i'm not mistaken you get more vitamin d And just something we've stripped out of our diet completely. Yeah, and we don't demonize for whatever in the sun anymore either I think that's a lot of the sun I think that's why we're seeing it and why it's continually to get worse just because We're under fluorescent lights all day and less and less people are outside Like I just think that has a lot to do with 100% 100% all right I want to touch on something real quick that happened this uh over the weekend So it's interesting because and I want to talk about it a little bit because we kind of did this early when we started Mind pump, but we we did this differently than the way i'm seeing a lot of people do uh this now on social media and this is where Pages smallish pages five thousand followers ten thousand followers one of their strategies to grow And get attention is to attack a large growing Brand and they do so to get attention So that they can grow and it's really annoying and it's really dumb because now I know we used to do this as well because you know obviously when we first started we were small And our goal was to expose a lot of the myths out there But we were also very careful about Who we who we went after and what a lot of these other pages are doing is they take things out of context And it's just like oh you're big and they did this to they took some of my posts some of these pages Put them and they were so out of control were two tweets. They were so out of context I was referring to episodes that we had done and they're like trying to be such a reach They're just trying to find any angle they could to put you on blast Yeah, it's stupid and no the the issue I have with it is first off It's dumb you're not helping anybody because now you're just confusing a bunch of people It's a cheap way to grow your brand But here's my irritation it's with myself because it's really hard for me not to get annoyed And then give them the attention they want it's like they win, you know what I mean I gotta learn how to shop. I just a practice. Yeah, I'm gonna have to keep You're working on it because it's just gonna get worse. I just hate it. Josiah just interviewed me and we actually we went down this this path He's like a longtime listener Fan of ours from early early days And he was bringing up like, uh, yeah, I haven't really had a chance to be as consistent as I used to be I still peek in on you guys But man, it almost sounds like the mission is different Today than what it was before and he goes so has the mission changed. I said, you know, it's funny I get that from people that heard us really early on and then maybe they took a break for a few years Or then they came back and then they hear how we communicate and they feel like oh, we're different now Or the mission's different or we were and I go, you know, it's not that I said I think we went through a point where what you're talking about where we would we uh, it did doctors or famous people or massive influencers If you were promoting bad stuff, um, or we thought you were we were operating in a place of lack of integrity or morals Or what about we would use you as an example to teach our audience like let's take that and I said there came a point Um, where I we started to feel like man We had to be careful because we're not so small anymore that it could kind of come off as bullying Yeah, all right. And even when we started it back then, uh, the intention was never to hurt Right, it wasn't the it was the counter. Well, it was to use them as an example to help others Right, it was like we didn't go like hey that guy's giving back everything. Let's crush his business That wasn't how we do we said, hey, here's a great example of somebody who has massive influence Or a lot of people pay attention to or they think he's right because of his acronym after his name Let's use them as an example so we can educate and teach our audience But at some point we got to the size where if we did that it came off like we were bullying people and so And also we were we were we did do diligence to try to maintain context and to be accurate because You know, if I do a tweet That has a statement on it and i'm referring to an episode or i'm obviously talking to a mind pump fan You know what i'm talking about but out of context be like, what do you what do you mean? Well, I'll give you an example that uh, lane was a great example this lane has uh, some things that we disagree with Yeah, but we also really like lane I consider we I would say we consider lane as one of the good guys that are in the space that are promoting good information overall Yep, there are some things we we differ in opinions about and so we would take something and debate or have a talk We wouldn't try and bash Or put him down or and we or we would all say like I really like a lot of stuff He puts out this one statement or this one point I disagree with it and this is why Where you just see like and then the people that you're referring to right now I don't want to give them any light because they're they're no that's what they want They're nobody really right But what right away where they lost credibility for me is I saw they were targeting two other Big pages one of those being squat University and I can't remember the other one But both were people that I like That I think that are whether I agree with all of their information or not when i'm looking at it I'm like these are these are people that I think have a very good message and are helping Most people it's like when we saw someone attack max lugevere same thing It's like you're going after the wrong people like if you're going to go if you're going to build your business Off a punky people for putting Disinformation out there then go after the people that are really harming or not helping or manipulating people Don't go after somebody who's promoting a really good message and then take something out of context and try and Fucking just you know, you know make yourself smarter over like it's just a bad look And if you don't know the motivation, that's where we try to bring the awareness, you know And it's like we know the tricks we know the ways that You know the focus could be a lot more on Money and and attention and all these other factors to it that we know It's not about Getting your behaviors to change in a positive direction Which is that's usually who we try to bring on the show or bring light to our people that Are concerned about that and really helping your average person not Confusing them with all these little nuanced details of You know if we get in especially in the the scientific the intellectual side of our space It's it's all it is is just we're we're getting in arguments about nonsense that doesn't help anybody just It's a splitting hairs argument or we're going to keep pushing it and this study shows that no But it's just mental masturbation the thing that annoys me is honestly is that they won because the goal was to get attention They got your attention and to start a little thing and after I let myself calm down I'm like because here's the deal. I have this is a personal thing when someone lies about Me or my team and I know our intentions I'm a pit bull and so what I when as we get bigger it's going to keep it's going to happen more And so I need to like so I gave myself a rule if I see something like that I'm going to wait 24 hours I still want to say something there you go. Yeah, because if I respond that's a great way to do that because I bet you 99% of the nine more probably 100% because almost every time it's a waste of my time Well, yeah, because it gets you emotionally riled up and then once you let it settle down and you kind of Who is this and all they're really who cares? It's not really affecting anything so stupid. Anyway, so, uh, I finally tried the green Apple, what do you think it's hella good fire. It's really good. It's really good. Yeah, or they Organify crushes The flavor stuff. I mean their green juice already was in my opinion the best tasting on the market All green juices taste like crap. Yeah, I'm going to be straight up. So some are worse or less like crap than others I don't care. I'm a supplement. I'll drink anything. You guys know this. I don't care about flavors. Okay, but Organify kills it. This is actually it's actually a good effect. So I mixed it in ice and I was sipping on it I'm like, this is a good drink. It's bomb. They do. I mean, I like their green juice already But the the is it apple crisp. Is that what they call it the apple crisp apple crisp apple? Yeah, good It's actually really really good. So I don't know what magic they do back there, but they do it. Yeah, they know what they're doing for sure Hey, what's up everybody? Look, there's a company that we work with because we're dads that care about the health Of our children. I have an 18 month old and when I went and looked for baby food On the market, they were all terrible except for one company Serenity kids this company makes nutrient dense baby food formulas. There's no sugary fruits It's high in quality grass-fed meats like beef and bison They use things like bone broth. Um, it's really really good stuff It's the only baby food that I'll feed my son So if you are health conscious and you have a child and you want them to be healthy And you have to buy something that's convenient easy to use Go check out Serenity Kids. In fact, we got a discount for you if you want to try them out You can get 20% off if you go to mind pump partners calm click on my Serenity Kids And then use the code mp 20 for that discount. All right, here comes the rest of the show First question is from non-lay. How often should you see a chiropractor? Oh, that's a good question You know, I'm gonna make a general statement here. Oh boy. I might piss people off I feel like of all the health fields In positions that chiropractors fall Very neatly into two categories. They're either Really smart brilliant understand correctional exercise and do a great job or their Quacks shucksters like I have not met anybody in the middle. They're either supplement panelists here or they're here So, okay, so I feel like that's the same. It's the same You're saying the same thing just some decided to Wield their powers for good and others decided to wield their powers for bad It's like you get the dark side because it's I what it is is it's You have all that knowledge and information So you have the ability to communicate things about the body that most people don't And there is there can be tremendous value in chiropractor work And there is also the ability to give somebody like instant relief, which that's very powerful And so then what from there it is, you know, do you have integrity? And do you do you give these people? Not only the the instant relief that you know, you can give them but also the way to address the root cause It's how they got of how they got here or are you in the business of just keeping appointments going for the rest of their life Which by the way a lot of business model a lot of see that a lot of clients of mine that I used to train That was like, I remember I'd get clients and they'd be like, oh, yeah I'd be doing like their schedule and they'd be like, oh, that's the day I see my chiropractor And I'm like, oh, what do you see your car park ever? Oh, I always see my car park. It's just like like tuna Yeah, exactly. It's like it becomes something that they just do forever. What do they do for you? I'll go on to get adjusted. Yeah, and they feel amazing Okay, so then that so it's hard to especially went on the new trainer who they just hired to be like Oh, well, maybe you're never going to need that again after I get a hold of you But you don't want to say that because they built a relationship and a consistency with this person and I'll give a little bit of I guess like in terms of how they They promote some of the business practices. I think that Sometimes it kind of ends up a certain way, right? So if you have Chiropractors that are doing well business wise, they start structuring it in a way where they can see more appointments and more Frequently and say start reducing the amount of time. They're actually Servicing these patients. So there's a name for that. I think is it network chiropractic Is that what it is Doug? Doug, you were in the field a little bit It was like a term for it where it was like a business model Was he in a field or was he one of the guys you got suckered into? No, no, but he was Doug was he back when I used to train Doug and when we first became friends He helped uh with some chiropractors in their marketing. So he kind of understood a little bit Not with marketing. I didn't help. It wasn't marketing. It was no, I sold life insurance. Oh, that's okay. Yeah So, I mean, I know there are some groups that are very much like let's churn These people through our system If that's what you're referring to. Yeah, where they'll set up like 15 people 15 minute and they'll go crack Crack crack crack increments. Yeah, I think good chiropractors use correctional exercise a lot. Yeah Bad ones just adjust now adjustments have their place and in the people that really explained that This the best to me are two chiropractors. I have a tremendous amount of respect for jordan shallow Um and dr. Justin brink. Okay, dr. Justin brink in fact helped us create uh maps prime pro So he was actually somebody that we worked with to put that together And then jordan shallow is just this brilliant guy and the way that they explained the adjustments is There are parts of the body where either through poor movement patterns or tight muscles or your cns is protecting certain areas You can't articulate a joint and so what happens is the muscles around they get tight Kind of sees up and then the way you release them is like if the way I would release my hamstring my hamstrings will type I stretch it right so they're able to articulate a joint Cause that release. Oh the cns now. Let's go with that muscle allows the muscle relax and I feel Pain relief, but then what you have to do is follow up With correctional exercise to prevent what is causing that to happen in the first place otherwise What'll end up happening is what you're saying adam You got to keep going to the chiropractor every week for the same thing in my neck the same thing in my back My shoulder always hurts they crack it and I think it feels better But then next week I got to go back you wanted to unlock your movement potential So if there's something restrictive and in like so sometimes like there's been accidents or there's been injuries or certain things where You know your your joint just doesn't Uh have that range of motion anymore and you need that manipulation that subluxation I guess they call that to kind of pop Things in alignment so that way now I can go through those ranges of motion But you have to keep consistently practicing that to relearn that with you know your your muscles to respond properly I find it really ironic that our maps prime pro and prime program are the programs that Some chiropractors are most critical of when it was something that we created with dr. Brink And I think they're critical of it because it takes from their business If I give people the answers on how to fix something themselves if they put the work in to address like your What your point was the root cause they may never need a chiropractor again And this is what I would tell clients when they would come in and say Oh, I see my chiropractor forever and I said well, you know We'll see after I get a chance to assess you and we start training But you know, there's a very good chance that I can eliminate you ever having to see them again Right, like we can actually strengthen your imbalances and get to a place Where you don't have chronic pain all the time and you don't need someone to pop you to get relief You know what I'm going to counter that and what the reason why I'm going to counter that is because A lot of trainers will feel that way too if I get and I've heard people say this What happens if you get someone in shape? You're losing clients. They're not going to come back The better I got as a trainer the longer people stayed with me And and the best chiropractors who understand correctional exercise. I know I don't they have the biggest It's a scarcity mindset. It's a scarcity mindset And of course it's not how brink or shallow think it's just why we're good friends I'll never forget when I first met brink. Do you know the very first time we ever met He showed up to one of our live events I don't even know who he is and he walked up and he introduced himself and he told me as a chiropractor And you know, I told him I told him that I don't like chiropractors. Yeah, and he said me too It was the best it was the best response you could have given me because at this point in my career I'd already been so many chiropractors would try and attach themselves Because they had a personal trainer gets to train so many clients That it's like a great lead place for a lot of chiropractors And so I'd have a lot early my early careers when I didn't know any early career I didn't know any better I'd have a lot of chiropractors that would kind of hang around me and my trainers and our businesses because They would try and pluck clients out of it And so of course I have this kind of chip on my shoulder about it already So that's how I said that to bring but he had such the right response Yeah, me either because a lot of them are the first time I got a session with him He didn't do a single adjustment. It was all assessment correctional exercise and movement. Yeah and movement That's and those are the good the good people. They understand correctional exercise. They use Adjustments as a way to help Correct the root cause and the good ones grow their practices as a result They don't lose clients because they saw well the patients learn something. I mean at the bottom line They're going in there. They're you know talking their way through whatever aches or pains But the point is like they're leaving with something that they can apply at home Not just getting there to get some temporary relief Thank you And I was going to say this because the question is how often should you see a chiropractor? I'm going to give you some red flags instead If you go in and all they do is adjustment and then you leave and they want to book out your all your appointments red flag That's a big red flag if you go in and they do assessments They look at correctional exercise watch how your body moves They take you through movements and exercises to correct the issue They're probably well that's like going to a personal trainer to sweat and and get sore. Yes It's very similar. The trainer just moves you around. Okay, you come back Well, that was another thing that I loved about bring one. I never ever once got on the table with him He didn't adjust. He never had to adjust me. He watched my movement and then he gave me a prescription of things to do Consistently and then he didn't say let's book another appointment or let's schedule you twice a week for this long with that He literally said to me like do these movements hit me up If you still are experiencing pain or if you still have discomfort or if you notice that and then we'll go from there But that to me that is the sign of like a really good chiropractor is when they see you and they do a good assessment And they figure out what's going on Sure, they adjust you to give you that that immediate relief But then they're prescribing to you things that you should be doing on your own If they're not prescribing for you to do anything on your own whatsoever They're then they're in the business of just adjusting you and having you come back every single That's a red flag. I've been to I mean Quite a few where I'd show up and they you know, oh your neck hurts and they do crack crack. Okay. We're done Yeah, see you Wednesday. Yeah, I don't wait. Okay, you know, and I guess I feel a little better Yeah, when I see then I'd see someone who was really good And they'd be like, well, let me see you walk and let me see you stand and then pull your head back and turn over here And do this movement and then let's try this exercise and then you do this one for, you know, 15 minutes Does it feel any better? Yeah, it does. Okay Let's start with that for now And I want you to do this twice a week and then come see me next week and then I'm gonna try a different Like that's when you know, you're working with someone. That's good. So the question about how often should you see one? Well, if you find a good one that's a little possible It's whatever they tell you that's the prescription whatever the prescription is is right If it's the, you know, oh 10 minutes, here's your adjustment. Oh good You feel better then I'm gonna that's the person that you probably should never see So it doesn't matter what they prescribe go the opposite direction and find a chiropractor that understands movement and correctional exercise Next question is from Eric Nasser Other than reducing the risks of metabolic adaptation. What are other positives of using calorie cycling? Over the same color daily caloric intake insanity purposes. Yeah. So all right, so I'm gonna So I'm gonna eat the exact same thing. Well, so let me break down the question first for people might understand. So Typical like prescriptive diet What have you eating the same calories every single day the same grams of proteins fats and carbohydrates and in extreme cases exactly the same food every single day and Studies show that when you cycle the calories where there's higher calorie days lower calorie days Ultimately equaling the same amount of calories at the end of the week But it's fluctuating that that prevents or at least mitigates what's called metabolic adaptation where When you're in a calorie deficit when you're in low calorie your metabolism slows down To adapt but if you do higher calorie and lower calorie days versus the same all the time It reduces that effect, which if you understand adaptation, I feel like this is kind of obvious Yeah, it makes I mean the way anything your body get if you want something in your body to get good at and adapt to Right with anything else you do you do it as frequent and as consistent as possible of the same So it figures out. Oh, he's gonna do this to me every day in my workout Oh, he's gonna do this every morning wake up at this time and then the body gets really good at that and adapts So why would we think it's any different than with the metabolism if you eat the exact same way all the time Before long the body goes. Okay, this is how we're gonna Yeah, because they did the studies where they had what they would call like cheat days or whatever Where people would eat higher calorie days and at the end they lost more body fat than people who stayed consistent And I think it's because the metabolism adapted less as a result But the question is what are the other benefits to doing so forget metabolic adaptation? What are the other benefits? Well, I think the biggest benefit is not metabolic adaptation The biggest benefit is it mirrors real life more psychological How are you going to go from a meal plan that has you eat exactly 2000 calories exactly 100 grams of protein Exactly x amount of grams of carbs of fat every single day. How are you going to go from that? To then go to flexibility. Yeah, we're going to go to normal life afterwards Also, I mean what I love about it is that okay, it's uh Friday night. I'm going to go to the the warrior's game I love having a hot dog or popcorn while I'm in there. So on thursday or wednesday thursday I'm going to calorie cycle. I'm going to go lower so that when I go to the game I'm not going oh punching in my phone. Oh, that's 200 calories from a hot dog That's a I'm going to enjoy myself Yeah, and I'm going to have and and know that I'm probably going to over consume on calories a little bit for the day But I get to be a normal human being and enjoy a basketball game without Freaking out I went over my calories and all I had to simply do was adjust them the previous day Yeah, because the ultimate goal when you're I guess a coach or trainer the ultimate goal is you take somebody from this unaware state of diet to More awareness, which means they probably you're going to follow some rules They're going to follow some structure and then eventually your goal is to get them to the point where they can lead Normal lives where they're not necessarily following rules But they have a better awareness better connection and they eat in a balanced healthy way on their own It's really hard to transition from Same calories same grams of proteins fats and carbs every single day or maybe even same foods every day To regular living it's easier to transition when you have fluctuations when I say Saturday and sunday you like to eat more you're gonna have more calories on those days Or what are you doing like like you said? Oh thursday night? You're going out with your wife Let's move these calories from this day into this day and it's it's gonna It's easier transition into real life. Well now on the counter to that Do you think there's some people out there though that have some bit of addictive tendencies? Uh, who are very much like control freaks like I have to have this the same exact way Like gives them anxiety when you say that okay now tomorrow I can go up this high and then I have to jump back into like, you know adjusting And those are the people I make do the most you and you you do have to be careful, right? I think I know we just said that casually like oh just don't just my calories on wednesday and thursday Some people okay, and I mean, you know, I consistently say on the show don't eat like an asshole But consistently this is what happens to a lot of people is they go, oh, okay I heard that on mind pump that I should fluctuate my calories 7 000 calories on saturday. Yeah, and so Yeah, so then they then they just go extreme. It's like that is not the idea The idea is that you don't have to be neurotic About being so consistent every day And so there's a little bit of this flexibility in your diet But it does take a little bit of self-awareness to understand who are you are you still in this phase Of I'm still trying to figure out what a calorie is and what protein grams fat and how much How I'm supposed to have and I haven't even strung together a few weeks. Are you training consistencies? Yeah, like if you haven't been consistently eating well for yourself and training really well And you you're going into your second week of your first consistent week of being good And you're like, hey, I'm gonna do what the guy said and just kind of lower my calories Wednesday Then saturday i'm gonna enjoy the game like it's like and then you go crazy and eat seven eight thousand calories Okay, well, you're not ready for that yet. You know, maybe you maybe you should eat A little more consistent right now until you've proven that so it does take a little bit of self-awareness On who you are where you are in your journey with with nutrition and exercise To whether how you take this advice now. I'm gonna take this now a little more granular granular So this is more for people who really know what they're doing. Maybe more fitness fanatics I think there's also value in cycling Carbohydrates fats and proteins. I notice when I go, I'll have a low protein day or two and low for me would be 50% of my body weight in grams. So if I weigh two, you know about 210 pounds So 105 grams would be low protein for me. High would be 200 or more I notice when I have a couple low protein days and then I go back up to high My body seems to be more sensitive for protein and there's some studies that suggest that this may happen Bodybuilders have for a long time also cycled carbs and notice that when they cycle carbs They get more sensitive to the carbohydrates more athletic performance benefits better pumps and they get leaner easier So I think there's more value to cycling your macros and your and your calories Physiologically than just the metabolic adaptation. I think there's performance benefits as well That we may not fully understand So for those of you that are like fitness fanatics and really dial the stuff in Try that out and see what happens going low carb higher carb lower protein higher protein even fat See how you feel Next question is from hyowest What would your routine go to workouts look like at age 45? Me like right now I'm the youngest and I'll be 41 so I think we're all getting pretty close I think it's important to highlight what three years from now what we're looking at when we're talking about a 45 year old You either have the fitness fanatic who's 45 or the decondition 45 year olds with two different people, right? The fitness you're also your goals too at that time, right? Of course But so the fitness fanatic 45 year old they're probably going to have more wear and tear There's more opportunity for crappy lifting or crappy training There were definitely there's definitely a decade of my training where I'm sure I did a lot of damage maybe to my body So you got to take that into account someone who's deconditioned Um at the age of 45 you start to notice a little bit slower recovery I would say it's probably the biggest thing and then lifestyle you're 45 You've probably got kids you probably got a mortgage you got a job So it's not like you have all the time and the sleep in the world to to dedicate to training So those are the considerations. Yeah, it's just like anything else about being an adult at this level, right? Like you just there's a lot more prep. Yeah, that that's involved like I've never had to like do mobility rituals and priming before workouts before that wasn't even a thing in my mind I would just get after it and They're just things like that that I always have to consider And making sure I have the an adequate amount of calories before I lift or it's going to ruin You know my entire workout like there's just things you notice like patterns That have definitely intensified over the years that I have to you know, really consider how it's going to affect My next day and my next workout. Uh, so everything is is a lot more thought out You know, I'm going to speak to myself since I think there's so many variables on what this looks like, right? Like what like you said there's depending on their level their goals like I mean this could be so different for so many people personally Uh, and I feel like I'm in the transition of this right now in my life of like, what am I what is my What are my workouts going to look like? You know beyond 45 50 years old going and I think what it looks like that is different than what it has looked like In the previous decade is more flexibility on what I would constitute a workout Right, so you know the the meathead Guy who cares about it the way he looks which is was a major driver for me for most of my life Was all about my muscles, you know, what looks good and how lean or body fabric Where now it's it's not like that for me now I do it for staying healthy and flexible and strong and stamina And also how it affects my mood and how productive I am around the house and what a better partner I am And so that doesn't necessarily require me Hitting x amount of volume inside the gym It actually requires me to do very very little volume of strength training like to maintain The physique that I worked really hard to get to and so now like working out You know, I may have planned like today's a lifting day today is a leg day for me to train Um, let's say it didn't work out like I wouldn't it wouldn't be like it didn't work out Maybe today I get home and instead I go for a two-hour walk with Katrina Yeah, you know and that would constitute a workout where I wouldn't count that as working out or with that Or maybe I don't get to work out at all. And so I then really adjust the way my eating is So I think just in In 45 and beyond I think there's just more flexibility in what what I would consider Uh, you know working out and stuff like that. And you know, and then maybe uh, My 45th birthday is coming up. And so I just have a personal goal of hey I want to look pretty badass at 45 still so I kind of ramp it up for the last Two or three months before or dial the diet and any tighter titers just so I can say law cool I look cool at 45. Yeah, that reminds me of a conversation. I just had recently my brother in law And uh, he was kind of talking about getting back into it But you know, I just I don't I don't get what I used to get out of the workouts And so he would decide to not do the workouts Unless he could do the full length of like an hour to an hour and 20 and like hit all the body Parts and and all that and I'm like, look man, you have to totally look at this differently now You know, there's there's things that get in the way all the time and I've had to really Um focus on getting it in while I could even if it's 15 minutes Because throughout the day I can actually do that in chunks And it actually is just as good if not better sometimes than doing a full length workout So it's it's it's alleviating a lot of the pressure around it and and getting rid of the all in sort of mentality towards it There's pros and cons cons, uh, your your body's probably gonna take longer to recover You're a little bit more prone to injury And you're more likely to have More solidified muscle imbalances or issues just because you're older So if you've been moving bad, you've been moving bad for longer periods of times. What are the pros your wiser? This is true. If I work out with a 25 year old or I work out with a 45 year old I mean everybody's got an ego, but the 25 year old is more likely to not be very wise whereas a 45 year old goes You know what actually Uh, let's not put more weight on the bar. I just want to feel good right now Was a 25 year old's like I don't care. I just want to add weight to the bar and see what happens So there's definitely pros and cons. Here's a wonderful pro for people who work out for years and years and years and then hit this age It requires you way less intensity and volume To get your body to stay in shape and it does to get there in the first place like I work out now Way lighter. In fact, I'm doing almost all machines right now because I'm trying to give my body a break and let my check my ego So I'm working out getting a pump with machines I'm using weight that in the past would have been a waste of time for me right now I'm maintaining my physique because of the years that I have under my belt training So there's a lot of pros there you can also you train smarter I'll tell you what a smart 30 minute workout is better than a dumb one and a half minute Uh, excuse me one and a half hour workout So there's a lot of there's a lot that you could do with this and I'll say this I trained a lot of everyday average people all of us did My most fit clients. Okay. We're almost all in their 40s Almost all of them now is it because their age gave them an advantage and you know because they're no Obviously, they're at a disadvantage compared to the 20 something or 30 something year olds that I would train But they were smarter about it. They they they took more time They were more off they listened more in terms of mobility and correctional work Um, and they were also had developed uh discipline they tended to develop discipline or at least value developing discipline because You know when you're 45 you start to figure things out because you have kids you work and you're like Oh, I gotta have some structure because this isn't gonna work if I don't have structure And then when you go to work out you're like, you know what? What worked with my kids and my job i'm gonna apply to this workout. I'm gonna be smart about it I'm gonna do things the right way So, you know, so there's a lot going for you either way But yeah, I mean You have to eventually change how you approach your workouts because you know 45 you start to feel it 55 65 75 You can't have the same idea of what a good workout is because you're gonna hurt yourself When you're 20 something years old that you you you tend to kind of muscle everything or Get through everything through motivation and push and drive and I think and as you get into your 40s, you start to realize it's much more of a dance You know, it's I it doesn't take it. It's not you start to cut out a lot of the fat You don't you don't you realize that it's not as hard as it as you you thought it was like I think I I think I pushed myself so hard in my 20s and maybe early 30s Trying to accomplish something or get somewhere and look back now and go like man That could have been a lot easier for me It would have been a lot easier if I would have just backed off this a little bit Increased that a little bit more focused a little bit more on sleeping here did a little bit And I think the results would have came and I think you through trial and error I mean and you would think because we're all professionals in the field that we should know better Like we all started in this 20 years ago or more that you would but no even us We even with the education the experience still had to learn the hard way of banging our head against the wall And I think by this point in our lives We've kind of figured that all out. It's like and you know that study it was it was so revealing to me when you shared that I think it was earlier in the year about you know one seventh of the volume is required To maintain a muscle so it takes seven times more to build it And only one seventh of that to just to hang on and if you just think about that for a second If someone did the exact same workout every single day seven days a week for 20 years of their life They literally can reduce that down to working out one day a week to maintain what it took them to build That's crazy. Yeah, when you think about that now, there's other additional benefits of being active every day Sure, but when it comes to what you're saying, I mean, I noticed that I I keep it Nope, you know how hard it was for me to keep my body weight above 195 pounds when I was in my 20s. It was like Now it's like I work out once a week and I stay that way. So it's a it's a big difference Here's my favorite part about getting older When I was a lean muscular 22 year old You know, I look different than other 22 year olds Let me tell you man You put me around a bunch of 43 year olds now And I look way better and that's only going to continue as I continue to age So as you get older stop comparing yourself to your younger you look at your peers You'll blow yourself. You'll blow them out of water your high school reunion. Yeah. Have a real good time That's it Next question is from Lindsay one dove Can taking painkillers before or after lifting inhibit muscle growth? Yes, you can import. It's the it's the NSAIDs right the non-steroidal anti-inflammatories that will do this Which is Advil, right? I'd be pro I'd be profan naproxen aspirin I believe is an NSAID and I'm not I know I see Cetaminophen is not that's a painkiller, but it works through a different mechanism But what they do is they block the Prostagladons that that Contribute to inflammation so you get reduced pain inflammation But that's also a signaling process that tells your body to build muscle and to recover and repair things So they've done studies where they show that regular use of these NSAIDs Actually increases risk of muscle tear and joint Problems don't joint degenerate Degeneration because it's blocking that inflammation signal signal the vital signal Will it reduce the muscle building single? Yes, they also show studies that reduces muscle protein synthesis When people use ibuprofen for example post workout or before now it has to be pretty minimal though, right? Because I mean I remember meeting lots of jacked bodybuilders that were Popping painkillers on the regular. I don't know if they were popping NSAIDs Well, they're out of them like it in Vicodin is a blend of hydrocoding and and uh aspirin or aspirin or after the workouts No, that so so and so those are opiates. I don't think they block the The muscle building well your your Vicodin has could you give me the blend Doug? It's hydrocoding and and uh, Is it Advil or aspirin? I think it's a Cetaminophen That's it. Yes. That's Cetaminophen is not an NSAID So I don't know if that blocks the signal, but nonetheless also consider this Uh, you're talking about bodybuilders probably have a loud such a loud muscle building signal because of the hormones and stuff that they're on Yeah, that whatever they're blunting with painkillers problem. It's not it's going to get overridden In other words, so I mean, I also know a lot of people who take a lot of Advil and stuff like that So I mean it can't be that Is it you think it's that big of a difference? I think it depends on like how frequent. Yeah The pattern is right. So yeah, if it's infrequent, obviously it's not going to do a whole lot But uh, yeah, so those studies they would do it like before workouts every every, uh, every attempt, right? Yeah Yeah, oh, yeah, so yeah hydrochodone and acetaminophen So there's no there's no NSAID. So what's the that's the uh, the the pharmaceutical name of Cetaminophen? What is that a generic name? So that's my No, but Tylenol not great for the liver depletes the liver of glutathione I just wanted to get clarity on that because I you know, I heard I've heard you bring that study up before and talk about Incents and I guess I was just under the impression that that that Tylenol fell under that category too So Tylenol does not just Advil does. Yeah, so just to make it just so I can create context An ice bath after your workout will also block some of the muscle building signal So anything that blunts or blocks inflammation Will partially block the the the signal that your body is sending that says hey repair build muscle Now inflammation can also go out of whack and in the other direction and obviously cause lots of problems I think it's really about How often you use it depends your desire and what what what level of inflammation you're experiencing too Or you might need to look at your nutrition and and like everything else in terms of what's contributing to like an excessive amount of Of inflammation. Look if I'm in that if I'm training an athlete and it's we're in season That's right And it's important that they maintain their skill training Because we're in season priority now we're gonna okay And you want to use some painkillers so that you can move and you can continue to pitch and whatever and then off season We're going to figure out what the hell's wrong with your shoulder and fix it And go off the painkillers and do correctional exercise that would be the approach Yeah, your desired outcome at that point is to continue to play games games Even though you got this issue going it's not to build muscle right now If you're somebody who is trying to build muscle Like say a bodybuilder off season trying to build muscle not a good idea to probably be doing cold punches Right after you get done with your workout do them on the days after the days in between or do them in the morning Do them before not right after you send the muscle building signal by lifting really hard and then you blunt that by jumping in Now here's the other thing too. Okay How much of a signal does it blunt? I mean, I don't remember what the studies show, but it's not huge I'm sure over time it can it shows up, but Let's look I do a cold rinse in the morning before I come here now It's not the same as thing as a cold plunge. Okay, but let's say I had access to a cold plunge Oh, you do. Yeah You're about to yeah, so let's say okay I like the fact that it wakes me up it energizes me and I feel good during the day Am I willing to trade in a little bit of the muscle building signal for that? Yes. I am. Yeah, I totally am Yeah, and some people are so obsessed with the muscle, but like when I was a kid. I thought any calorie burned Would be a calorie taken away from muscle growth and recovery So I literally work out and then try to lay in bed or sit on the couch as much as I could Just let the muscles grow right what a stupid approach like I'm taking away the cold in my life For what gaining into the half pound of muscle which by the way actually doesn't work that way It's interesting. It's not common sense either because all we're getting you know in terms of like Marketing is the lower information by all means necessary because your average person Let's say they're experiencing some kind of chronic pain or they're Eating inflammatory foods and they're just in this constant state of inflammation where they haven't really dealt with their stress levels To that point where maybe it's not as beneficial just adding more Stress and and you know the recovery side of it hasn't been at the forefront. So You know, this is one of those things where it's like what where are you? In terms of your your stress management your inflammation levels and all that I have a different conversation with you You know coming from different point, but if you have pain and you're using pain killers I mean once a week or more every week. That's something you got to look into. Yeah, you got to figure out what's going on Why why do I have to continue to use these pain killers on a regular basis? I know people Who don't work out right? I have family members who are older Every day every day they take what's prescribed to a lot of them A lot of people that have just chronic pain and you go see your doctor. You're 60 something years old They don't go when I had high blood pressure. Yeah, it was just like had headaches all the time and I had to take Some xedrin or some Advil just to cope. I mean you lost 100 pounds got rid of that And it was like What do you do is get rid of the pain killers? No, yeah, yeah, what was it a benign tumor on your Yeah, yeah, I got that all diagnosed and fixed and surgery and now I'm back. I wish we had like a fake obese picture of just There when he talks about his high blood pressure I want to post a picture that Courtney hates that No, no Where he made it was like pushing it out. Yeah, it's like a little sad. Let's bring that back Look if you like our information head over to mind pump free calm and check out our guides We have guides that can help you with almost any health or fitness goal You can also find all of us on social media So justin is on instagram at mind pump justin you can find adam on instagram at mind pump adam And you can only find me on twitter at mind pumps out