 favorite episode right here for so many different reasons. Hey, baby, before we begin, yo. Shout out to DC Young Fly. Shout out to Carlos Miller. Shout out to Chico Bing. Shout out to Cat Collio. Shout out to Chad. You know what I'm saying? Oh, Bray. Shout out to Ryan Pham. Shout out to Smokin' Joe. So, shout out to, it's one more, it's one more. Where you, where you shout at? Cat Collio. Cat Collio. God damn it. Shout out to Cat Collio. Man, shout out to J.O.N. Oh, come on, man. That way in the hallway with the counters on. I'm brown with the counters on. Praise Jesus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, hand it up to yo. Hey, shout out to the I-Team. The I-Team, the I-Girls, y'all heard of the Fly Girls. I got the I-Girls over here. Lola Cash. Shout out to Eat My Candy. Shout out to Bortney. Yeah, yo, Bortney. Her name is Bortney, but we call her Bortney because she a blood, I think. I don't know. I don't know. Shout out to Chris and the Bortney one. Come on, man. Gang, gang, gang, gang, gang, gang. That way, that way in the hallway. We're building this new set. Man, this guy, oh, he was just having to be inside the building at the same time. And he was going on a whole another show. He was going on a whole another goddamn show. And I know this guy for over, like, I want to say maybe 15 years almost now. And he agreed to come to my show and he was going to be my first guest. But, you know, things just didn't pan out that way. We didn't even have no room inside 85 South Channel. The 85, none of that yet. It didn't happen yet. It didn't even happen. We were just trying to figure it out. And he said, hey, no matter where y'all choose to do this, shit, this is what we going to do with it. You know, I'm going to be there. Just look over your shoulders, honey. Whoa! I'll be there. Y'all give it up for my player partner, my homeboy. I'm going to fly. Y'all, yo, your favorite. I'll show you a name. Man, look, this is the wonderful, the greatest rapper to ever live. I tell him, pound for pound, he can go up against any man on earth. I don't care if you're a better rapper. You're an R&B singer. If you're just one of the niggas out there, man, believe you ain't got a chance. I put my money on this man. I put the house on this man. This is your boy, the best thing on the street, smoking young drones. Let's go! Hey, yo, bro, what's up, what? I know what's good with you, my guy. Hey, man, yo, did I forget anybody? I know, hold up, man, shout out to the DJ. We're the most out of this motherfucker, man. Shortest-nigger hands on the ones that choose DJs. Big hands, big hands, big hands. He can mix any goddamn thing. Shout out to the social media nigga. You know what I'm saying? DJ Wizard Craig, AKA somebody. Yeah, shout out to the whole staff. Come on, man. That way in the hallway, the camera's on. Shout out to the dude in the punk lot taking $20, then you ain't supposed to be. We're the Zonka Knife. We're the damn builders. He crackheads. Yo, bro, man, what's up, man? What's good with you? It done. How long have you been a real nigga, man? I don't see it. I don't want to be a real nigga. I don't want to be a real nigga. Bro, I can't believe you, man. Man, you know how we get it. Hey, I'm going to tell you something. What's up? This is a complete manifestation. Because I just got finished shooting three of my shows. After the first day, we actually got inside of this room and stuff doing what we do. And all my dreams, shit, I was like, yo, a drill coming. I'll leave, I'll go to one of my favorite places in the world, see if I can get it. And when I'm even eating with my cunt, it's the cubs and the shit and whatnot. And he was like, nigga, drill, walking up with a bad chick. And I think he saw you. That was my mama. Yeah. This whole thing, yeah, that's the fuck real shit. This how we started off? You did that. Yeah. That was the fucking shit. Man, that's why I'm not. You know what I mean? That was my mama. Yeah, he went on by day four. No, when I walked up, it seemed like, I was like, damn, nigga, he ain't even speaking to me. It must have been the side with the owl on it. Feel me. I'm standing right there. He ain't saying that to me like that. He talking about shit. Then buddy was like, shit, that's wrong. He was like, oh, shit, that's wrong. I was like, you some bull shit, Jack. That's some bull shit, boy. I got the AU, man. I did not know. I'm still going through my veins. Hold up, wait, wait, wait. Did you say AU? You just invented your own stuff. Yeah, yeah, artificial, unintelligent. Unintelligent. I got to mention you're this artificial, unintelligent. Man, my little boy was playing with some all, but the other day I was like, this motherfucker's gonna go good and Jack, huh? I fought around and lived it at the house, man. I lived it at the house, man. I lived it at the house. Boy, stop. It looked like it would fit though. No, he probably gonna want that one. No, he probably had a turquoise little lion in. I was like, he gonna want that one. No, he won't. That the one he won? That the one he won? No, Jack ain't gonna want that one. You know, he's like, he's shooting with a star or something. You know what I'm saying? He got a collection of them. No, don't try to say he got a different one. I want to do you got an eye with your face on it. It depends on where girl he went, where eye he put in. You got an eye with your face on it. You just can see it. He just been doing too much. You just can see it. I ain't. I ain't. So what that ain't to my meat, bitch? I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. Hey, Jack, he got you down. He got you down, Jack. He got me down, man. Hey, man. I feel horrible, because, you know, it went on. We were over here trying to figure out where we were going to do the second season of New Jack River City. Throw us here. I didn't want to believe, because I got to get him to come to my show, man. And he fucked with me the whole time, even though, you know, I was going through my bank because I was freshly, you know, off my eye surgery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was fucking with me, and didn't even, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Treat me like a widow and nothing like that. Gave me a real number again. You were saying how you was going to design, though. You know, you're a likable person, except for that time when you was in it with Touche. You mean Touche? What? You can be around me every day. But when you got into it with Touche, I was purposely not answering the phone. I'm going to let you know that now. That man called up there. That man said, man, I'm going to do something to you. And I know Touche. He's like the calmest person you ever could be around. I knew him before the wrap. And Jack said, well, you're going to have to do what you're going to have to do. I'm like, man, Jack, I know you, Jack, now. I know you ain't like that. He going to talk to me in a kind of way. I said, boy, there, boy, Jack, ain't backing down, boy. Calm down, Jack. Calm down, man. Nick Sneaker born, Nick Sneaker born. You on this side. But this nigga not game. Jack. Tell me how you caught you again, Jack. How you caught you when you finally ran into him. Hey, hey. You ain't sick. You ain't sick. Oh my God. Listen up. Oh my God. I ain't never been cursed out like that for my life. He wanted to cool the dude, so I said, Jack, we're wrong. Nigga, I lost Atlanta fucking with you, champ. Yeah, you were gonna fall out, Jack. I lost Atlanta like a motherfucker back in 2016. But you made a significant turn around, a turn of, you know, everything in your life changed and you became great and you did, this is 50. You had so much stuff since then. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Yeah. When I first met Jack, his name was Honeybun. Wait, I'm not a bitch, there's no count. A man said, you know, do I introduce Jack to you? I think it was me and Tip that day. Oh my God. I was like, oh, he was like, yeah, he was like, what's your name, bro? He was like, she's Honeybun, too. I'm not calling her Honeybun. This is bullshit. You're right, man, I'm Traybun. But what made you change your name that day? He changed your name that day. He changed that name that day. What made you paint that name from the beginning? I was 14 years old. That was, you know, opposite of 41. What was your name when you were dancing? Was it Honeybun then? It was Bob White. Bob White? It's smaller but it cut you. That was my motto. You used to call yourself Bob White. Yeah, I was small but I cut you. I go with Bob White all the way down there. Not Honeybun, not Honeybun. I knew a nickname, Honeybun, though. Stayed in Perron, Honeybun was seen with a dope. You don't remember Honeybun? From Perron. You used to drive the little Manila up. I go for Moon Park. Yeah, Moon, Moon was hard. Yeah, I go for that part. Yeah, Moon, Moon, we was hard. Honeybun? Yeah, man. Baby, how you doing, Honeybun? What? That mother of two, I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. No. Oh, man. So I went on the check line. Y'all remember the check line? Yeah. Yeah, that was like, oh, what's that shit? The room, that shit now, where everybody be on the phone? Clubhouse. Clubhouse. It was like clubhouse for the phone back in the day. Yes, it was. I used to be on that too. Yeah, that's how me and my brother used to meet me ladies. And they'd go meet them on the train. We'd go to wherever they left to go meet them. My mom kept me at her house for that phone one time. Gonna be a high town. The number that you see on TV, call 1-9-9. Yeah, yeah. 9-9-9. In chat room, you go into the room. The room. I used to be telling girls, I used to be like, what's your name? I used to be like, my name Block. See what, you know, I got asthma so I used to breathe. I used to be like, you fat? I used to be like, nah, I ain't fat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, I ain't fat. So I don't need you to come out. So when you breathing on out, bitch, I got asthma. Yeah. And then when we meet up, they be like, damn, you fine? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they told you, you the one fat. And stupid mattress. Oh, shit. Yeah, it's something, said you didn't say we used to have this joke. About, you know, he met a dude named Delicious. And he wasn't going to call no grown-at-man Delicious. Yeah. And you know, I understood the concept of that. And I need to get me, when I start doing comedy, a name that niggas won't forget and everything and whatnot. And I just happened to be on a chat line one day and it was a gay dude who came in the room. He said, my name is Honeybun, hope your momma die by. And then hung up and whatnot. He started going from room to room and this made me laugh. So goddamn hard. Every time I would get on the chat. So you took the hope your momma die off. Damn, damn, damn. You know what? This shit, he's not having any. He put momma to beat. He said negative. That's negative. No, but I'm not. That shit sound, that's not it. I didn't want no negative shit. I didn't want it to broke. No negative shit. So you had to promote anything wrong. Everything was sweet. Hey. Everything was sweet. Everything about this situation started sound sweet. Yeah, yeah. Tilt were right. Tilt were right. Not to call you, Honeybun. I don't do that, bro. Yeah. Hey, so I knew that it would get the same effect as said, joke and shit. So I start calling into Ryan Cameron morning show every morning. And he invited me to the show like seven times as the gay character Honeybun. I always wonder how they do that call the radio every morning. Homeboy, we went out to the club, right? Yes, sir. You fought round and you dropped me off at the house. And then I got to leave my wallet in the car then. I'm at home. My girl, about 3.30 now. So you called the house. And you called the phone. You like, hello? What's your way? Honeybun. It's 3.30. It's 3.30. It's 3.30 in the month of May. It's 3.30 in the month of May. Honeybun, I want you, bro. You left your wallet in the car. I left your wallet in the car. You paying for Honeybun's? Now. Your relationship over. Hey, hey. Hey, you was about it, right? Yeah. You wouldn't have bought Honeybun? Would I bought you a Honeybun or would I bought a red car? They're gonna step on that, yeah. Hell nah, who the fuck is Honey Bun? No. You okay? Okay. Please don't go to jail. Man, do not go to jail. You are already on the store. You gonna stoke all the lyrics and he's like, Honey Bun is so sad. Hey. See, we live in a dead age. Now I'd be like FaceTime that motherfucker. I need to see. Got you. It wasn't on FaceTime. Yeah, it was. Yeah, we had FaceTime then. So you don't say Honey Bun wasn't believable. I don't give a fuck how you put it. And then it wasn't even in style with the game. It wasn't even in style with the game back then. He didn't make it even worse. Yeah, I called a lot of flack, fought all the time in the comedy clubs and everything. And I wouldn't even get it. I wouldn't get it right. You're the reason why we got that stigma on LL now. I'm fighting for game rights. You're the reason why we got that stigma on LL now. Oh my god, bro. You're the reason why we got that stigma on LL now. Something's happened here. I don't know what it was. I was part of the LBRTCH community and what that meant. That's the one I had. But yeah, man, I was making it hard on myself. But even Duvall, at the time he was going by his real name, Roland Pyle and stuff, he did not shun me for that. Even though it was something that was an issue inside our friendship, he understood what I was doing. So that's why I thought it was cool for me to keep on doing that name until it makes sense. So you convinced yourself. So it was an inside joke thing that we needed to do. 100%. I almost got into fights every night in the uptown comedy club from B.M.F. to Jeezy to all. So every rapper. Two change. Two change in Jeezy. This is the second rapper you've been to. This is like two rappers. Every LL rapper you can think about wanted to kill me. The third rapper. You're starting with shit now tonight. I'm friends with everybody now. I'm friends with them. I don't know if they're friends with me. You ever be a nigga friend, but he don't be your friend? No. I don't know how that feels, man. It's over. It's over. I mean, it just don't... Sometimes it never began. You might be the only one thinking it's a friendship. One-sided. That's some insane shit. That's what you doing here? Yeah, yeah. We're friends, you know what I mean? When you call into the radio station every day, I always wonder about them dudes too, though, Jack. I listen to radio every day, then the radio man be like, it's you again. How do you get through? I can think of calling in one time, as opposed to calling in a lot of times. They can use real numbers to make the show be entertaining. Oh, so you became a part of the show? I became a part of the show, but we ain't been paid. I ain't realized at 14 I was, you know what I'm saying? They was creating content back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You threw me off, because I am no grown man that call the radio station every day. Yeah, I remember you was the shit out of me. But you also told me that you should become... You're a comedian, you become comedian, blah, blah, blah. And such and such. And then, you know, three years later, I went to King's of Comedy at Phillips Arena and stuff. Yeah. Three years later, I went to Chris Tucker Comedy Club, and that's how I had it. It worked out for you. Good stuff. Y'all give it up for Jack, man. Okay, honey boy. I have a conversation about... Don't play with you about the young lady. Don't do it. We're going to talk about Farley. We'll take the thing. We're going to talk about Farley. I personally said a prayer, you know what I mean? Because I know how human trafficking is. But I also know that shrooms make you... You know, they make you see babies on the street. What was the prayer about? What was the prayer about? The prayer was about... The prayer was about... Young AKA. You know what I'm saying? They got school and everything and all that. And they got picked up. That was trying to help a child. And I was saying to myself, whoever put that child out there for the bait. Oh, they're going to hell. I'm paying drugs. Listen, I'm trying to give you the benefit of that. Because one day, I was a long time ago brought smoke some weed, right? I was on the spreadway. And I thought I saw Armadillo in the spreadway and I swore. I wasn't even driving. My boy Fat was driving. I just grabbed the steering wheel and was like, where they going? Armadillo. So I kind of felt her saying, you know, it was possible that you could see shit on the street. But drugs were involved and I'm like, maybe this bitch was hot. She was hot. After I found out, you know, when the police said that she was calling them back, I knew what was some shit going on. We weren't about the girl, but nobody knew. The baby good, nigga, the bitch gone. Nobody thought that if the baby was on the highway they got cars, cars, cars. Nobody would have seen the baby. Nobody would have seen the baby bitch. No, he wasn't in there. He got a good plot of that what he did. So nobody's seen the baby. Yeah, I just feel like, man, you know, that's, that's Jesse part two and they're gonna make an example out of her because they let him off easy. So they're gonna make an example out of her. She's gonna be the one to get the time and set an example for every other motherfucker who will see a baby. That's true. You know? So, you think she need to be brought up charges or no, because she's only 25 years old. I mean, well, I think that she should get, like, like the mental, you know, the she should be tested. Like, you know, she need a mental health check, man. They said they tested that and then she's okay as far as that goes. She's not okay. Not doing that shit like that. Nenny's been taking up, uh, taking all on the phone. Yeah, Amber Alerts. How much it costs? Wait, wait. They said, they said, when, when she was gone, she called her boyfriend and he was like, they're gonna come and get you. No. No. She was going to the bed. No. She unblocked him. No. She was away, she unblocked him. The boyfriend moved on. That's what the whole kidnapping was behind. She was trying to get the boyfriend attention. I hate to believe she did that. But she did the wrong thing. She did. I really hate to believe that. She did. I mean, we, bitches do, do crazy shit about it. We will. We will. I was more concerned about the baby. Yeah. I was more concerned about the baby. I was more concerned about the baby because I felt like, where is the baby? You know what I'm saying? And I believe, I truly believe when that bitch get to heaven and she asked God to get in. He was like, don't bring your ass up here. Don't bring your ass up here. She didn't mind about it. She didn't mind about it. Yeah. Had them full friends. You see, you had so many preals coming to me. And you ain't got no plans. Because there's so many people out here in a bad situation for real, bro. Yes. Miller Hill State, man. And you clogging up the line. And you can take your resources and polices away from a real crime. Yes, right. Young black women are picked up all the time. Ohio. They still ain't talked about that. What? While she out here talking about a baby. The 30 kids that went missing in Ohio. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Yes, man. I felt like that she should be held accountable for the decision she made to. Well, how do we hold women accountable? To shake up America? You locked that ass up and you put in a mental institution until she get healthy in the mind. You feel what I'm saying? There was just something wrong with that. I think she needs to go and get some good help. Yeah, something wrong. You had people, you had OGs and stuff, putting up money, trying to figure out, you know, how to find you. Yeah. Yeah, y'all see Shadow Man, anybody, you know, anybody on that type of shit. You know what I'm saying? But you know what? And that ties in that, well, that, that very situation, her playing around like that, that ties into a lot of the stuff that you have going on nowadays or whatever. Tell us about this new initiative that you have taken on, you know, to make sure these kids, you know, get a better path. Well, I have a nonprofit call. It still takes a village. We're in. It still does. I believe that it still, I believe that it takes a village came from like back when my grandma, you know what I'm saying? When you just get whipping, like, you can do something in front of mid-Dalene, mid-Dalene, and go take you to your mom. She can pop you, whoop you, and then take you to your mother. Oh, you know what? We got caught on the mother boys again. Yeah, I think it was important then, and I think it's important now, but it still takes a village or a nonprofit that I have. We're in the schools, the homes, the community, you know what I'm saying? Educating and combating senseless girls. I see you out there. I see you being active. Like, I hear a lot of people talking, you know? But I see you working with the different district leaders, you know, the community leaders, and y'all really putting together an initiative to make sure something happened, man. Y'all give it up for Dro, man. Yes, one percent. You know what? You know what, though? I feel like a person like me from the hood, you know what I'm saying? Doing what I do. You know, and the only way I could be doing what I'm doing is with my partner Sierra. She's a doctor, Sierra L. You feel what I'm saying? She's a licensed therapist, you know what I'm saying? For 20 years, you feel what I'm saying? But I think that we're just bridging the gap. We're just stigma on behavioral and mental health. A lot of people think mental health. Man, don't go and seek the right mental health or whatever. Yeah, but we don't understand the difference between behavioral health and mental health. We think that being angry has something to do with mental health. You feel what I'm saying? It doesn't, just because you might be upset because your father got killed. And you know what I'm saying? But we'll take that as a mental health thing when that's the behavioral health. You know what I'm saying? We have to be set up on that. I was in Coke one time, in Cobb County, and it was like, you can get out of here. You just take some anger management. I was like, it ain't no problem. I go take some anger management. So just so having this a dude sitting in the courtroom with his wife and all that, like, yeah, come on down into my little center or whatever, you know? You go through about two, three weeks or whatever, we'll get you on up out of here. I was like, okay, boom. I go in there. He gave me a piece of paper to feel like this, you know, this one I figured out, you know, needing to sit down and talk to somebody. And I advise anybody who having real issues to go sit down and talk to somebody. Because a lot of people don't. You wouldn't understand yourself unless you talk to somebody who you didn't know, you know, that's going to be judging you. That's going to be doing a lot of crazy stuff to your mind physically, you know, by abusing you and stuff like that. But I go sit down and I take this piece of paper and it's asking me questions. I write, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, anger is something you can control. Yeah. Mental health. Mental health. When this guy, when this guy see all these answers or whatever, he called me in the room. He said, man, I'm going to be out of here in about a week. He was like, nah, man, I recommend eight weeks for you. You know, and I'm like, what do you need? Eight weeks. And he just said you're going to help me get out. You sitting in the courtroom. You walked me all the way over. And he was like, nah, you don't realize you got a deeper issue. You know, I'm telling, you know, from the thing and over that eight week course, I decided myself to go see, you know, therapy myself for my mental health and stuff. You feel what I'm saying? And this worked out great, man. Here, 10 years later, you know, it's done wonders for my life. So I do advise anybody, you know, that needs somebody to talk to, to go talk to somebody. It's funny that Drow just said what he just said about, like, you can control anger. Yeah. Because I remember one time I was at Grand Hustle and I walked in, me and Duvall was there and Drow was arguing with this dude. And he was so much more bigger than him. He had to be like six, six or something. He was, like, really buffed out and strong. And Drow had a, first time I've ever seen a dozen eagle in my life. And he said, and they don't even much flesh me like that part of the nigga. Oh, no, you're fucking with it. He said, he was just like, I was listening to the album in real life. He had a pearl. He used to drive this pearl avalanche. No, so it was, yeah. 30 inch rim on it. He just put you in the avalanche. No, no, no, I'm sorry. But that thing was escalating. They had some reels on it. I used to go step aside. It was like this right here. That's what real was so big. And they were rose gold or something too. You know, I was like, dang it. Did. I don't think I'm that kind of person in the world. Why was you that nigga that day? What happened like that day? He said, why would you be like that day? Then you can control it and you still hear talking to me right now. You look the same. When drugs, no, I don't think I'm looking the same. I think, well, you know what? Like when, when drug, when drug, when drugs are involved and when I say drugs, I mean heavy drugs, when drugs are involved, it means just that when they, when they charge you with DUI under the influence or something. You feel what I'm saying? Like it kind of takes away from character, integrity, all of that shit go out the window once you intoxicated. So you seeing me act like that was me like this playing, you know, myself being under the influence or something because I wasn't raised like that. Yeah. It's just that the drugs that I used to be into, you know what I'm saying? And that, and speaking of that, that would, that's what led me to go to the rehab. Like almost three, almost three years ago. I went into rehab because I felt like I wanted to break a cur, a generational curse that's been in my family for a long time. Like, I think I got like, I want to say almost 20 of my relatives died from drugs. You feel what I'm saying? So, and I want to, and the reason why I went to the rehab is because I wanted to break that curse and I wanted to be the first one that's still around that quick drugs when it got help and you know what I'm saying? Clean, today that's why I'm like 28 months. 28 months. 28 months. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, bro. What? The day I seen you do that, you inspired me. I wanted to be like you because I never got a chance to do that shit in my regular life when people was, you know, making me feel less than. And I took that attitude to New York. That same attitude like, nigga, nobody better now fuck with me than what now I'm pulling this far. I didn't have a debt, doesn't even. What's that? I had a revolver. That's not a revolver. I think it's New York. Finish it. You had a revolver, you. In 09. In 09, three months after the video that you seen with me getting my name changed, I was in, I had changed the jack through that night. That night. And three months later, in August the 6th, I was young jack through and I took the spirit of young growth, EI, young GZ, and got down past Detroit, up to New York. And I was not playing no game, trying to be me. The new me. And when I got a chance to shoot a nigga and all that shit. Wait, oh, look, wait. No. There's Michael Jackson. You don't discriminate yourself. I didn't hear that. Man, this was in 09. He didn't die. He didn't die. He was trying to rob me for a fake chain I had on. And I was leaving the comedy club. The chain was fake. The chain was, nigga tried to goddamn flex on me for a fake chain I had on. I'm 28 years old. 27 years old and shit. Everybody was talking about it. You don't know he might be watching this. Man, I hope he dated it. I hope he dated it. So you had a chain on. Yeah. You had a chain on with a charm on it. Yes. On the back of the charm, it read, this ain't it. This ain't it. I was shaking that. I had that nigga. I was shaking him while shooting the fuck out that nigga. You shot a nigga over a fake chain. That's crazy. I paid good money for that fake chain. You know how it is when you want a chain. I don't know how it is. So you telling me you got got for the chain and he got shot for the chain. That's exactly what I'm trying to tell you. That's exactly what I'm trying to tell you. Because I thought he was going to kill me. So you know I'm leaving the comedy club and we don't talk the same and blah, blah, blah. And I'm only three months into staying in New York and everybody had already hyped me up. Hey, when you go up there, nigga, don't you man, you been not going there being no bitch and shit. New Jack Thrillers, New Jack City up there and blah, blah, blah. And all I did was just seeing movies of New York shit. So I thought I had to be a certain type of way when I got there. So you felt like you walking to jail and you're going to slap the bigger nigga. You know what I'm saying? Impressionable. You see stuff and then you feel like you should do it. This is fucked up and shit. Hey, it's funny that you should say that. Maybe about four months later. So now we're in 2010 and I had to became you know all the way through. You're taking away dates and everything. You don't care. Now I'm being mentored by 50 Cent and shit and he telling me that this ain't how shit go. And that's when I was able to be myself again and realize, oh, so we just, this is personas. We chilling and we entertaining the crowd and what not. And oh, if I don't need to be at places where I feel like I might need to assert myself. Yeah. And that's what it was, because it's all a mindset at the end of the day. So you're saying you were acting the whole time. And entertainment was taking control of your real life. It was controlling my real life. I was paranoid at the same time and I wasn't hanging around with people. That was artificially unintelligent. Yeah. Yeah, but we all go through it and it didn't take long for me to snap in and snap out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was just a comedian when I left. Yeah, I put my own hand up my ass in New York. You there? No, no, no, I'm garnish. It's figuratively viceratively figuratively figuratively. Figuratively. Oh, I want you to do a big deal. Yes. Yeah, I was, yeah, I thought I had to be somebody else. Yeah, even though even though things like that. Sometime, some, some, some else, I needed. I had to. I had to. It was right there. It was right there. I could not, I could not. It was right there. I could. Shout out to Bulldogs. Wait, yeah, man, look here. I thought that's what you was talking about. You knew that out of us. I thought that's what you done with. I'm a little out of the ball, dogs. I'm a little out of the body. Pray for Jesus. Pray for Jesus. Yeah, Drew used to wear these. I don't want to be. I don't want to be. I don't want to be. I don't want to come right after that. This is so bad. I didn't think it's gonna happen. I was a fan. I was a fan. And he's moving forward. I didn't even know about it. Hold on, hold on. Yeah, so he used to wear these evidence glasses. They were Louis Vuitton glasses. And I wanted to make enough money to get some evidence glasses and stuff. I don't understand. Like, like, like I use them in a crime and the cops got them and then they had them in evidence. Louis Vuitton had a, Louis Vuitton had an addition of glasses that were called evidence. Remember that? No. Oh. Man, somebody look that shit up. Look it up and then tell me what y'all got. Hey, bring it to him. Tell me what y'all got. Somebody look over there. Louis Vuitton. I never did. You said they had to go that top. Yes! I know what you're talking about. Yeah, they had to go right up here. Those were millionaires. You said they had to go that top of the little circle in the middle. Yes, those were millionaires. What were they? What did they go? Oh. Oh. I didn't have those. I tend to leave no. I tend to leave no. I tend to leave no. They got. Hey, Jack. Now you made me a believe? Yeah. Oh, D. You made me believe? They got evidence. His legacy. The pride. They got the gold at the top. They had a little circle in the middle? Yeah. Yeah. I had a pair of them. They were like six feet. Yeah. Joe, you know you got some. I remember the millionaires. Everybody had them. You got so many different types of things. You know I knew them with evidence. Yeah. I remember the millionaires. Man, I got them. I got to put Joe up there too, man. Joe, you don't want me to be like, you can't say you got it. I don't want you to be like, man. I told you before you came in. You got to live with that. This is Jack before you came in. You got a shirt. You better throw impression. You're off with the blue horse in the real horse. You're off like a little bit. What happened wrong? I think the shirt is a bit more attractive than like the hat. The hat looks almost like a Speedo hat. I guess it's your head. I don't know. But then the horse is blue. So you know if you're going to play with it, you got to play with it. Do you do this to your fans? Bro, you getting this from the master. Wait a minute. You give me some to me. I'm putting you down. You definitely put me down. Yo, you put me down. You disrespecting me? No, no. And you put me down and you pick it up. You pick it up. Artificial Intelligent Criticism. Oh. Because you getting it from the master. He don't make it. I don't see the dude where Polo sold me the different type of way. I'm talking about he invent ways to wear it. You get confused and it's too much. He made the sweater cool. I knew I didn't know what I was doing. I knew I didn't know what I was doing. I mean the reason why I feel like I can pull it off because I used to be poor. You feel what I'm saying? From where I came from to dressing like that, it meant a lot to me to fit in with people that I looked up to like playing golf and tennis and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Because in the ghetto, there's no golf and tennis and stuff like that. So I feel like, well, I'm going to dress the part. Even though I had a mouthful of gold still, I used to say I feel like a Rolls Royce fan I'm sitting in the middle of Bankhead Court. You know what I'm saying? You can see the contrast on that is very, very nice. You know, it's like I was growing up out of the concrete. You know what I'm saying? It's a kick to it. And the reason why I have a problem with that is I wouldn't even be able to sleep if that was blue and the other one was brown. You feel me? Yeah. Yeah, the horses are different. You got a natural. My animal wrong. My animal wrong. You got the wrong type of horses. It's a statement because it's the real color. It's the real life. It's the brown horse with the clothes on it. You feel what I'm saying? And it's almost like you're a person with another person on a horse on your shirt in live color. You feel me? The blue font is cool, but I would have did the blue with the blue on the shirt. You feel what I'm saying? The shirt I got on my I got a bear on my shirt that has on a shirt and a jacket. You know what I'm saying? Kicking his feet up and all that. Your clothes got on clothes. My clothes got on clothes. Last week I had a sweater on with a bear with a sweater on. I ain't doing that. I ain't doing that. Man, this man can give me a course at Harvard or Apollo. I know I'm wrong now. I'm trying to take. You're absolutely wrong. You're severely wrong. I said earlier today, yesterday I was the freshest nigga in the country. What? You're probably just in the bathroom. You needed to come out and talk. You know what I'm saying? In the country. Right there, right there. But you know what's crazy about that line? One that I seriously felt like that. But I knew nobody was into dressing like that. You feel me? I was like, nobody fresher to me. I'm a witness. You've been doing this in day one. I have a question. Have Apollo ever reached out to you? Yes. I was up for it. Then I caught a gun charge. I've always been in my own way. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of opportunities that was given to me that drugs just took away from. Not saying that it couldn't have happened. But I wasn't available. That went for relationships. You feel me? Deals with people. Videos. Shows that I missed. I wasn't available for a lot of things when the drugs were involved. Especially when you get your egos somewhere. You know what I mean? You be all over the place. Next thing you know when you turn around you're like, this guy came in. You got Apollo now that you've got it. They ain't straight. They need to see what you're doing now. I never really wanted to reach out. You know what I'm saying? It's not like I was saying I wanted something from them. I appreciated what it did for me. Back then when I was young, we was tricking the hoes and polo clothes. Players only live once. P-O-L-O. I don't ever knew that. Welcome to the club. You know what? We had an old condensation about this. New York is like one of the places I know this. New York is one of the places. All day I dream about sex. Okay, there you go. Tell me again, Jack. All day I dream about sex. I did that before I would turn. But yesterday I went in the freshest nigga in the country. You most certain. It depends on what you had on. I just... That nigga... So you were going to tell me you were going to wear that. I'm glad Joe was able to put you up on game. Let me tell you something, bro. Like, nigga be playing with Ralph Lauren. I done had some $9,000 outfit some days. Purple label. On no cap. Purple label shit piss me off. Either it's purple label, it can be rugby. It's real pieces. It can be double L. It can be double RL. It all depends on what you're wearing. You know what I'm saying? It's some real serious pieces. I got a leather coat, man. It looked like it probably was made back in 1920. You know what I'm saying? I'm over 17 racks. It's just what you pick. You know what I'm saying? Whatever you pick, make sure you pick pieces and not something that everybody... I used to dress off the mannequin. Now your shirt's red and mannequin. You know what I'm saying? A shot of dread like me or home I had is. Now I just might grab a shirt and I might grab a shirt in 2023. But I might not wear it in 2025 to match it up with something else that came out and then, you know, it's hard to... Like fire wine. Age wear. Ha ha ha! Fuck stop! I ain't gonna let that nigga make me feel less damn, man. No, man, you... You feel me? I would listen to... I would listen to... Hey, y'all, don't do this. I would listen to conventional wisdom. Conventional wisdom. I'm not gonna lie. He was very happy when he went and changed and put this... Before you came, he was so happy. I wish he would have called me and we could have just chopped it up. I would have brought the nigga the hat to go with his shirt. No, he got it. I'd be like, wait a minute. I got you. I got you. You know what I mean? But Joe, before you walked into... He did this for you. That was nice. He took the other shirt off. He took the other shirt off and then he had it on. He said... The fact that he didn't critique it like that, you can't be playing like that. You know what I mean? That shit got there. It's a science to this shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm coming up playing. Really, even though it's like that, the color you got on right now, it ain't gonna come out next year. You can only get certain colors at certain times. And then they'll skip it. You can't get that color. They're like Jordans or something. That's what I'm trying to... I would have waited. He said, everybody get in the floor and live. What's his name? He said, he's gonna wait two years so he can get some of the matches. What he's saying is if he doesn't get the match, he would have waited until the hat came out and he's coming to those who wait. Jack, you look good. You look good today, Jack. I'll tell you what. You look good, Jack. Take the hat, put it to the side and then wear it like... Yeah, yeah. Scoot it back off the forehead a little bit. The same way, though. I don't know. No, pull it back there. Pull it back there. So you can take the attention off of the boom. Put it down a little bit more and then you see... Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. I'm broke, I'm broke now. Now you're drunk. You clean and live this. You clean and live this. You show me, bro. I feel it so much, just... They listen to him. You cannot let it hurt your feeling because tomorrow you're going to dress a lot better then you'll be able to let somebody else know if they in the wrong. This is for nothing if it ain't right. Listen, I got one question. Is that supposed to be Michael Jackson's question? This is my question. This is before you die. That thing ain't looking fucked up, man. Is that what he got to say? What am I missing, bro? That is that in here. It's like a hammer and hammer glove with... Oh, my God! Why didn't he got on the match? That place don't match. Is it Kobe? That's the excuse we're going with. No, he got that microphone. That's the Kobe man. His hair was a little bit better than that. Hey, hey, hey, can we get a curl? I think we got to put that... We got to put it in the ponytail. That's like the one with the moustache in the bag. That's like Danny Glover's hair on Coach Pringle, man. He look like Mr. Mr. is Danny Glover's man. It's the Jackie that's throwing me off. No, the Jackie... No, the Jackie is throwing us off. Michael Jackson is Jack Idol and that Michael Jackson look good, bro. That Michael Jackson look good. It don't. Jack, I like Michael Jack. He coronavirus Michael. He coronavirus Michael. He got... Corona Mike. It's Corona Mike, bro. You ain't fucking with Corona Mike, bro. Corona Mike. Okay, get Corona Mike. What do I need to do for Mike? I think you just need to... Maybe you got to get the hair and fix that hamburger helper hand. Get the glove right. That's that. We got to get the glove right. Get the glove right. And his weave kind of probably needs straightening. You need a perm. The glove looks like... I got to say, the glove looks like it weighs the plan of my mom. I get the hat, but I think the smooth criminal hat was a little bit cooler than that. That's kind of like... One of the deacons in the church when he... You know what I'm saying? After it rained on it. Nice and like this. I wish rain. And he's also bad feet. Where's his shoes? I don't know what's happening. He's got so many shoes. He ain't got no penny loaves on. I ain't no little bad feet, Jack. I don't think he can have shoes. I thought he had some penny loaves on. I guess he said you can't see his feet from here, so... That... I didn't even know he had hair. No shoes on. We're going to review this video. I mean, I've been singing next to this nigga. I've been singing next to this nigga and everything. Look, I'm looking over there and doing his toe like this. I'm like... I can't wait till I get out of here. Hey, man, you know this nigga T-Rex told me that we were killing him. Yeah, yeah. I'm like... I think you could have put a hat on the ponytail. Like, that's the ponytail mic with that coat on and stuff. It looked like... I ain't never seen a mic with a hat on like that. He got a Jane Brown coat or like a beveling knife on the side. Like, he'd use a beveling knife. And it went Jane Brown on this side. And then that side looked like he got to fight in my head. Let my head go in. That early morning going to the CVM mic. Got you. You know, we got a Billie Jean jacket for him. So, with this look. And I was thinking myself to get the Billie Jean jacket with the Jura Curl wig and whatnot. You know, take it to a... Yeah, yeah. See, that's the problem with modern mic. Or modern period. You know, I think that we should go with more classic. The skin's on pretty much modern mic. It can't look like that color. And his neck was that color. If I get it. Yeah. Glove ain't shit though, right? Now, the glove kind of looked like... Definitely had nothing to do with it. You know, when y'all mama used to get the perm box and that little plastic lug and you used to put it on your hand and play it. Say that early. You act like I was kidding. I never noticed it until he just pointed it out and then when I looked and I'm like, dang, that dude looked like that. I didn't. I wasn't even looking at my... Man, you know what? We got to play that game that we played with the cards, you know, with Erika. Yeah, we definitely have to do it. It's called a situation ship. Yeah, the situation ship. Yeah, the situation ship. And, you know, definitely had some questions and stuff. Yeah. Tonya from New York, she came up with this card game and it's about speed dating and, you know, getting people to really connect and on a whole another level to make connections. So speed dating, I'm cool with that, but... We weren't going to hook you up. We weren't going to hook you up. No, we just want to hear your views on things. They don't know I'm more of a sport, fucker. Yeah. It's fun. Yo, bro, so with that being said, I like speed dating. You know, one of the great friends to the show, his name is Joe DeBreeze. I don't know if you ever heard of him. Yeah. Yeah. Joe DeBreeze got this thing where you could control women with the dick. That's not... I don't know what the hell he's having. Like, control women like... You give them good dating, but what do you want them to do? It's called dignitized. I don't think he the only one in the world that feel like that. So I'm kind of uncomfortable with, you know... Mmm. How do you dignitize someone? How does that happen? Why do you want that to happen? Just being able to, you know... Y'all want bitches but see y'all car windows out and being outside of house bleaching holes and all that. I mean, I don't want it, but, you know... I like things... I like a girl with spunk, if you know what I mean. I don't like boring relationships. If I come out in the house and see my Wonderbusset, I'm fine with that. Drogue, before you go on... Can I tell you something else I had observed from you that I had adopted in my own life? What? I love it. All right. One of the first dopest memories that I have of young Drogue. Man, it's... Drogue is this big booty fine-ass motherfucker she turn around and it's Fantasia. Mmm. And I said to myself, I need to become somebody I want an R&B song. You need Jesus, Jack. But let me tell you what happened. She's a lady. Just like the outfit. Just like the outfit. I went and I dated three R&B singers that was on their level. Mmm. All them fine booty bitches, too, instead of a nice young lady. She is a nice lady. No, she's a beautiful woman. She is not in that category. I would definitely step up and say that for her. What he said until she turned around. Yeah, until when she turned around, I was like, whoa, wow, you is you. Mmm, okay. Yeah, I'll take that. A lot of people don't even like you don't understand how to even get with somebody Mmm. Be yourself, Jack. Of course, she was already doing your thing. That ain't going to get, would you tell Fabo that? No, you got to be yourself. That's it. I mean, you got to be incredible. Because who are you? I mean, just be yourself. I don't feel like because I was a rapper, she got with me. If you were a young girl. You're gorgeous, man. Wait, pause. What? I understand what he's saying. Last week he was at Bulldogs and then Joe came in. No, that was over 10 years ago. I wrote past it, but I understood the concept of what was going on in there. Now he's gorgeous. I'm saying that he believes in himself and I feel that way. Yesterday I was the freshest nigga in the country. Let it go, Jack. Okay. How do you put yourself inside that position and we have these car games called a situation shift? How do I put myself inside the position to be... To approach. Mostly I'm very shy, so I don't really approach women. I can't tell you I walked up to her and said, hey, what's happening? Because that ain't my style. But I do some of my business once I'm approached. You feel me? But I'm pretty shy. I ain't too tough trying to come off on a little chick. We start looking at each other and I and each other and we can talk through, like, our sight. I'll do that. I'll be looking at you like, I'm going to do it for you. But I'm going to say it, but I'm going to use my eyes. So I'm standing right there. I'm looking at her. I'm like, what's up? She's looking at me. She's looking back at me. You know what I'm like? And then she's like, you want me to walk over to her? I'm like, no, I want you to walk over to me. And then she was like, I ain't walking over to her. And then she was like, okay, okay. I was like, all right, come on. And then next thing we start talking, that's how I work. Yo, I hate you. Hey, y'all got together. I mean, not that... Not that particular thing. Not that particular girl. That's just how I... That's mostly how I, like, if I'm somewhere, like, especially if I'm out of something, if I'm in a club or something, I'm most definitely walking up to her. First of all, I hate rejection. I hate rejection. I can't deal with somebody saying, stay crazy for me. I can't deal with that. I don't want to go through that. You ain't disrespecting it over, right? Yeah, I got dead like that one time. You ain't disrespecting it? I can get this stuff anywhere. You good and all, but you can get your little speakers and gone. I was like, where the fuck? How you just going to put me out like that? The speakers and gone. I thought I had to talk that shit. But you already had her if you made the speakers at house. She was like, they good and all, bruh, but you got to get it. I need to pay the rent. Like... I was stealing cars and started to come bring home and I said, well... I had to radio them. The Alpine radio, JVC radio, they just weren't selling like they were supposed to. You know? I think the last car, you know, before she said that I had got a whole bunch of 4x9s out of somebody, don't shoot like now. You need some 10s or something. Just ain't gonna work. I ain't know where it was, man. I thought we were vibing. Listen, you know what I heard? I heard that it was... they picked like 15 people from, like, Atlanta to do... What do they call it? Like a tour through the White House. Like one person was from the bluff and I think they said that's where the cocaine came from. Boy, stop! They did. They was like somebody from Atlanta did. Like a tour. They were like... They went through a tour in the White House. You know, everybody was showing in the rules that somebody was from the bluffing there and they was like, well, that's where the cocaine came from. No, the cocaine came from there. That's why I keep falling out, but I mean... Hold up, what? I think it came from one of the tours people too and I totally agree with Drow that it had to be somebody from the bluff. Wait a minute, we're getting out of control. We got to pivot real quick because Drow and somebody else went... Hey! Oh, my God! Legend has it. Y'all used to be roommates, man. Oh, yeah. I was wild back then. They were all crazy. Y'all lived together. Y'all should have did a movie back then. I got out of jail, Drow was well established. I had to get it right. I think Raheem used to give us like... Raheem the dream. Raheem the dream is a cool guy. I think I started out with Raheem on some real deal doing show... I do a lot of shows now, but I've done so many shows in my life, bro. And it started with Raheem and... You know what I'm saying? I want to just shed light on this situation because they used to be... Yeah. I can't tell that they were not... Nobody wanted to leave me. We stayed with them, bro. When I got to the spot, right, we had our own rooms. They had just built these little spots. I was with my girlfriend, Michelle. I did the song, her name, and stuff like that. I remember me and Michelle. So when I got to the crib, they were so wild. I was there for one day and I never came back. We was at the swimming pool. We was at the swimming pool. We went swimming, you know what I'm saying? You know, you got two west side niggas, you know. I got weed and everything on camera. He's coming. I got a pile of weed on camera. Like, he's like, what the hell? This is what I got when I got there. But it was just falling out. So I'm like, all right, cool. I'm just being in my room. You got to think I had Jack got out. I wanted to spear everything. He was unorthodox. He was just... I was like, damn it, baby. He just everywhere. So guess what, I was sitting over there. I had hold him. I was standing with my bitch. I was like, I ain't got to be in a cop. I don't have an AC. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I don't have an AC. And I got everybody from the hood over there. I know all the new neighbors. There's another neighbor. I know him. Come on in and introduce yourself. He dated this tall ass woman. I think her name was like 6'9". She was a model. She was a model. She was a model. She was a model. She was a model. She was a model. She was a model. She was a model. She was a model. I got to talk about it. Go over the great name. You understand? So like, when I'm even in the concept of young girl, they both stand in the same place. I'm thinking how high? Atlanta version. We came from a spot that was just totally being ignored. Like nobody went thinking about us or none. And with Tiltbush Doc, it just shed the light on our spot. We could be somebody. We felt like they know who we are. So we were the next niggas in line from all the block. I was actually on the radio before Tiltbush. Yeah. I was actually on the radio before Tiltbush. You heard him Tiltbush. I was on the radio before Tiltbush. Both of y'all were on the radio. But I ended up back on the block though. I had a hit card, yes sir. Yes sir came up before that. I was on the treadmill yesterday. When I was going on with Drum and Pastor Trout called, it's on the map. We both had hits before that. Atlanta police. Where you did that Jimmy? Yeah. You was in there Jimmy? No, Pastor Trout was just a cool nigga. He can't jump on the song. Like Pastor Trout being cool like that. I ain't know him. That was the weird part. I ain't know him. What is happening? But drama wasn't, he wasn't a better rapper than FayeBow though. Yeah, I just didn't know. But the nigga went gold though, you know what I'm saying? He went platinum. He eventually went platinum. You know what I'm saying? But he wasn't a better artist than FayeBow, but they said... There's a lot of people that's not a better artist than FayeBow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. FayeBow was in 2023. That's 310 million. He's 2023. Yeah. Did, did. And I wrote and produced everything. Did you go, did you go kill him after the show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, man. Shout out to Killer Mike, man. Y'all go get the new album. Mike will go check out the something for the Junkies. One of the hottest songs in the world right now. Killer Mike got the hottest admin. Killer Mike bounced from me when I first got into rapping. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was big for me. Yeah. Are y'all surprised about each other's success? Nah. Nah. He been, he been, he been the best rapper alive. Like, he been the best rapper alive. Like, like, I learned from him just every day he had idyllogy he was. He had pads, notebook pads, where I just got out of prison. And I'm not thinking about writing. Like, he already got his life wrong. Like, ready to go. This is ready. Like, he already know what he wanted, what he was going to do. Like, he already had a plan and that influenced me. I started working harder, you know, doing my thing. Well, because he got to think that he went on and got a deal. And when I'm still a nucky head, I'm still hadn't figured it out yet. I ended up back in the street for like four more years. He on the radio going crazy and everything or whatever. Still, you know, influencing the nigga. I see him every day and he pulled up in the truck, in the car. He jumping out of everything or whatever. And it just motivated me. And he always showed the same love, always with the same dude. You know, if he had it shirt off at back, you can get it. Like, he always been the same person. I felt, yeah, the same thing. Like, when Fable did make it, I was like, I was just waiting on it. You know what I'm saying? It was a surprise. I was like, okay, about time because I know, you know, he's a good artist. You feel what I'm saying? And it ain't... I don't want to say rapper. I want to just say musician because his voice is like an instrument. You know what I'm saying? Like, he can sing, he can rap, he can dance. You know what I'm saying? Well, not funny. You know what I'm saying? So, when I did sing, when I did sing... I remember when, like, Spaceship was a song, but the nigga literally was turned into an alien. Like, the nigga was out of here. Like, Fable used to wear doctor coats and fucking... Like, he used to come and it was... Oh, you didn't even... Nobody was doing it, bro. Nobody was doing it. You know what I'm saying? It was... And I really did see Spaceship on Bankhead. I don't know why people be thinking I be playing now. They ain't showing up every other day. Can I tell a story? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. This nigga is super real. Like, listen, bro. We in Southern Illinois day, bro. Like, listen, somebody trying to rob me. So, I called, like, the whole city over there. You know what I'm saying? So, I got everybody in Atlanta over there. Fable got, like... He got all his money on a thing and he had, like, thousands and thousands of dollars on it. I got a lot of money on me. We out here talking cash money shit. He's saying, I'm on tour... But he's eating, like, 10-piece. No, I think he's eating, like, 20-piece. Yeah. So, we talking and talking and talking into... I think, somehow, the chicken fell on the ground. That's the nigga's name. He continued to eat his food when he ate the ground. He went up to my head with the perfect. I'm gonna say, yeah, buddy, you got that? Shit. I don't know. I don't know. He was like, shut up. He was like, no, real nigga, this. You did it. You did it. The boy ate the whole entire 10-piece. And he was gone. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Yes. On some street shit, though. You know that? But I totally got it. Because... No, bro, you know what? Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, bro. When I first got into the hotel room, we was in a hotel room, R.P. for lunch, Rest in Peace for lunch. Yeah. We had all the subways, right? We had all these subways in there, right? Yeah. So, a subway fell on the ground and coming from where I can't come from and how poor we were. We never let it go. And it hit the ground. I picked it up. And niggas were like, what? I'm like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm too old for it. Man. No, I didn't take it from it. This... No, that was like... It was like... You understand? It was just how... where I came from. Like, I worked with shit that's fucked up. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I take shit that's fucked up. And I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna get the best out of it. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? It ain't like I'm a nasty person. If it ain't something the way, we just tear that part off. Like... And it's just... But at the time, it was a statement. I don't even think nobody even understood what he did more than I did. It was my demeanor, like, to keep going. Like, when people ask me, what do you do to rap, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I hear all these dudes talking to us when you come out and be like, oh, these niggas can't rap. These niggas can't do this or whatever. And I was like, it ain't like that. It's just I don't want to keep eating ketchup sandwiches. Like... Yeah, but the nigga had like 50 grand on it. Clearly could have bought something else to eat. But it was just the fact that nigga, I'm not... I was like, the food, Fabo, like, let's eat my food. Yeah. You feel me? Too much on the table. You know what? Everybody's like, my Fabo is crazy. Oh, God. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, y'all don't know the half. This is crazy. You know what? Hey, bro, you just answered my last question. Okay, Fabo, you appreciate everything and, Bro, my mind was, like, how are you so detailed when you rap? If you notice everything. So in a whole another way, you appreciate everything. Yeah, yeah. Down to describing it. Bro, let me tell y'all, he been like this. Bro, we used to be freestyling. I'd be like, what is an Oxford color dish? Like, he would made some shit while we freestyle. Gonna make me stop and be like, I got to come hard on him and that. Like, I'm here destroying some shit and the guy got the pink flip. We rocked. We rocked. He was like, he had this shit way back then. Already free by class. But when you listen to it, it makes sense. How do you do it? Bro, how do you do it? He used to make us do it. Like, he'll come. We'll be on school porch. Yep. Magician. Happening to get to each other. Fabo will come up. I'll be right, but my cousin will be outside on, like, we was in Elthoridge. We'll be in Elthoridge. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? We'll be in Bankhead. Wherever we be. Either Bankhead or Elthoridge. You know what I'm saying? What the other nigga said we owe him? I love that nigga talking about we owe him. He owe us. I ain't gonna say the nigga name. You tell that nigga he owe us. He took us out while we had no business. And that nigga got them talking about we owe him. Nigga, you took us to the wrong place first. Nigga, we made our own shit after that. That's my cousin's school. That's the reason why I wanted to rap. You know what I'm saying? My cousin right there was, that was the first dope boy I ever seen. Grilled, got the old school car, Goldies, Voles, Big Bang Rolls, Bonfuck, got them. I ain't even kicking that poor little shit away back then. Back then, but at the same time, he was an excellent rapper. I remember I wanted to be like Tupac, and I used to come and I was saying, I used to run around saying, I got to get mine, Ryan. I got to get mine. You got to get yours. And I used to be rapping Tupac part. And then he was like, man, somebody was like, well, you should rap. And then my cousin was like, go ahead. And you know, I wanted to try it because my cousin was doing it. And then when I wrote it down, and I sounded like pop too much, he was like, nah, it don't sound like pop like that. Go back and try something. You know, it sound like yourself. And that's when I found the drill sound, you know what I'm saying? But you know, I wanted to actually be like Big Cuzz. Oh, hello there. Hey, Cuzz. Yeah, Cuzz had that recipe back then. He had that recipe way back then. He had the recipe. They like me and come for all these. Tell us how you, you helped pro B-pro and inspired that. Why, how did you see that? He did it with being himself. I just gave him a little motivation. You know, that's how I got noticed. I was on his set at Bankhead, at the bounce on Bankhead. I was on his set rapping. He was like, well, I got, it was talented Wednesday. He was like, I got this. He was like, it's a show. Me and, who, what the boy name from Bankhead? Was it P.I.? No. You know, they had an actual show up there. Oh. Oh, you talking about the structure. Corn, man. Dancing corn. Yeah, corn. Yeah. I was going to say the other nigga name though. Who? The other one that you just said. I was going to say him name. Oh. Yeah. No, don't say him name. Why? Oh, no. Nothing happened, man. No, he just took up to the wrong place. You know. He ended up being, we made it. Like, when we get somewhere, we just hustling. Like, we turned our situation into something great. But nigga hustling off of us. We went through a lot of, we went through a lot. It took a lot to get to where we at right now. In the beginning, it was rough because you had a lot of established people around that felt like they knew how to get it done. And none of us knew how to get it done. It just took hard working grit. And you are, you knew what you was going to do at the time and what not. He saw what he saw with you and he was inspired from that. And what not. And you giving it back to him and able to, you know, cultivate that. Like, can you, this is found on it. Tell us what he tell me. How it drove or come from? It was normal. I already was out in the street. I used to be with other artists. Like MC, Breed, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I used to be with them folk. When I heard him, it was automatic. Oh boy, I already heard he had the phone. Did the series with him. Yeah. Then I had got a call from one of my partner. He told me he was getting that. And we just bumped into each other. Yeah, we bumped into each other. I just moved over there. Yeah. Over my partner's house. And me and the man be out there rapping that. Three o'clock in the morning, man. Like they're right here. He'll just be gone. He'll be gone, bro. We can't be gone. And he always got a new song. See, that's another thing that he really, you know, brought to the tape. When he come up, he ain't going to rap just a verse or something. He always got the whole song. He got the hook. He got everything. See, they're going to go like this. He got the beat. Everything already in their head. So yeah, you know, that shit influenced the nigga, man. You know, somebody who really won't. Yeah, we should bank it. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? We should bank it quick. You know what I'm saying? Breed, you know what I'm saying? And it just, I think that being from such a hard place like coming up, you know what I'm saying? Like it was really rough, bro. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? To make it out of there and be able to talk about it and be one of the biggest on bank here. We bottomed up out of that right? That's a little log got killed though. It's a lot of stars come from Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? But I ain't saying this because he my friend, but I think that my partner is one of the biggest stars on the planet at one time. You feel what I'm saying? Still to me to this day, like for a star power, you have to really go to beat tip on some shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Star power. Star TV. On some movies and some TV. You know, it's a lot of rough shit, but it's a bank here shit that we came up with. You feel what I'm saying? And I feel like the wayside, this side, you feel that, you know, I ain't driving no saw or no next side. You feel what I'm saying? I ain't saying that car fable right here. We from the wayside. I'm just saying like, if you want to do your homework on it. See a nigga, därz in movies in, you know what I'm saying? On TV, you know. It ain't been no bigger. It ain't been no bigger stuff than that. That's some real bank hit wayside shit. And I'm glad to be a part of, I'm glad to help put the bricks together on a record label in the Empire with a person like that. You know what I'm saying? With my homeboy, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Tup. Yeah, shout out to Tup, man. There he is. I used to have to kill a mic player in the other night, right? And I called him in the back. I had to tell him the story. You know, I was like, man, you know what I'm saying? Scree, you real nothing to perform at the warehouse, and all of them went up there and broke into the doors, burnt with the door, we came back. That was my first concert ever, though. You know what I'm saying? Tup performing up there at the warehouse. I was like, that close. We can go there. I ain't never been to the club like that. Man, we burnt with that thing. Tup was like, oh, I'm at the farm. We hit the farm. He was nine. And then he was going to hit the top. I'm talking about right now, we standing back there looking at him. I'm back there like, you know, we nobody, but we from back here, like he representing up. You feel me? I actually had a nigga so motivated when we left that, like my mind said, we're like, man, I got to make a song. We got to make. Boom. I remember I went to bought the little beat machine and everything to be sitting on my poor. You come by sat and then you had to listen to my track. You come by sat, you had to listen to my track. Listen to this, buddy. Listen to this. Listen to this track, bitch. Hey, freeze me. I say that, I listen to that every morning. When you say that, this is last, last thing. Freeze me. What do you mean when you say freeze me? Because I know what I mean when I see it. Okay. All right, cool. Nigga might walk up. Nigga might say, she is, bro. The outfit you got on ain't Fred, bro. And that car you riding in ain't, you know what I'm saying? Hold on, pal. I'm freeing me without it. You feel me, you know what I'm saying? Free you without it. You know what I'm saying? You got to free. So if you, so if you in motion with the bullshit, I want you to, you feel me, you know what I'm saying? You got to free. What's up? I ain't going in. Freeing me without it, you know what I'm saying? Hold, that mean like hold, hold that, hold what you got going on. But you feel me, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, when you fucking around like that, you know what I'm saying? Hey man, listen, yo, Drogman, thank you for coming to my show, man. Yes, sir. Favo, thank you. Yo, thank you everybody. Hey, yo. This has been one of the best episodes of my life, man. Drogman, Drogman. I was going to be a man. Whoever keep putting out them top 50 list, you got Joel and Andre through your thighs. Crazy. They right there together, bro. Everybody will come after that. I'm trying to tell you, bro. I don't care what y'all say. If not, you need to go back and listen to everything all over again and try to say in conclusion that that's all. Today, you the freshest nigga in the country. Oh, God. For real. For real. Jack, he fresher than you. Yeah, 100%. Yesterday, I really was. Fuck that way he told me. And Michael Jackson, he's still fresh. Like a motherfucker, man. Hey, new Jack Thula City, man. Amen. Thank you, young Drogue episode. This was a banger. Hey, Jack Thula dot com. T-Resh, take a salad taste of the picture. Let's go. Let's go. West side, west side, west side, west side, west side. Thank you. They where from. Everything, don't be. They been done. My true game, my true game. Hey, take a picture of shit. You can see how I'm about to fuck me.