 واجباء على الأئمة والملوك بعث دعات إلى إخلاص التوحيد فمن رجع وأقرأ حكين عليه دمه وماله وذراره ومن أصرر فقد أباح الله منهما أباح لرسوله صلى الله عليه وسلم من المشتكين ومن أصرر فقد أباح الله منهما أباح لرسوله صلى الله عليه وسلم من المشتكين ومن أصرر فقد أباحه منهما أباحه منهم ومن أصرر فقد أباحه من المشتكين ومن أصرر فقد أباحه من المشتكين ومن أصرر فقد أباحه من المشتكين ومن أصرر فقد أباحه من المشتكين العاز said it's ab presented it's ab lifted it's abab it's abied abab it's abab it's abab it's abab abab abab abab abab abab abab abab abab بعد ثبوت الحجة after the proof is established on him فقد كفره he is a disbeliever وأما قبل قيام الحجة as for before the evidence is placed on him فإنه يعدر بالجهلي ignorance would be made an excuse for him why because the Imam al Shafiq he is looking at the masala he is looking at the masala that is in hand which is what because because the knowledge of this matter which is لا يدرك بالعقب a person cannot comprehend it with their logic ولا الراوية ولا الفكري a person cannot come to a conclusion regarding this issue by what by observation by taking it easy some of the Nus'aq says that's the correct way some say روية it doesn't come around like that هاية فنثبت هذه السفات we have found these characteristics for Allah وننفع عنه التشبي and we negate from him any resemblance كما نفع عن نفسه the way Allah negated from himself فقال سبحانه و الله says ليس كميث ليه شي there is nothing like him so based on this right now based on what Imam al Shafiq said that this matter we give عذر بالجهل because it's a matter which is خفي it requires علم and it's from the what المسائل الدقيقة الخفي so when you talk about this issue العذر بالجهل you need to observe this issue or you will fall into what you will fall into incorrect understanding very good محمد ابن عبد الوهب also said at that first point which is to look at the matter whether it's apparent or not the first point محمد ابن عبد الوهب رحمه الله he said إن الشخص المعيل a specific person إذا قام إف it occurs from him ما يجبون كفراء if it occurs from him that which necessitates kufr that which necessitates kufr if it comes from him فإنه لا يحكم بكفره he is not put in him حتى تقوم عليه الحجة until the proof is established on him حتى انته وات حتى تقوم عليه الحجة until the proof is established حتى انته الوهب is established on him التي يقفروا تاريكها in which the person who leaves it becomes a kaffer until the proof is established و هذا في المسائل الخفي that is in matters which are hidden التي قد يخفى دليلها على بعض الناس which it is evidence إنه يكفي من بعض الناس محمد عبد الوهب رحم الله يجب أن يفهم ما يعني و أما ما يقع منهم في المسائل الضاهرة الجلية كما إذا كان شخصاً أنه يتبع في مدينة which is كفر لكن مسائل الضاهرة الجلية مدينة it's open it's one of those famous matters أو ما يعلم أو that which is known out of what من الدين بالضرورة أو it's known out of the religion by way of necessity فهذا لا يتوقف في تكفي لقائله بحمد الله عبد الوهب we do not withhold from placing takfir on that person this matter is wadah that Allah is the only one you prostrate to Allah is the only one you do ibadah for this matter is معلوم من الدين بالضرورة it's known out of necessity from the religion or it's from the مسائل which are what مسائل which are الضاهرة that our parent الجلية good بحمد عبد الوهب بحمد الله with them the next thing that we need to observe as well is that حال الجاهل the situation pertaining to the person who is ignorant and his characteristics what does that mean it means that the people تتفاوة قوة وضعفة the people they differ in terms of strength and ability they do in terms of the comprehension of information they differ but not everyone is the same as the other person we need to observe that and it has to be what it has to be looked into شاقو الإسام إبنوتيم he said a speech talking about the matter إبنوتيم رحم الله he said لا يكفر العلماء من استحل شيء من المحرمات لا يكفر العلماء he said they said the scholars they don't do takfir on a person who makes حلال شيء من المحرمات something that's from the prohibiting like which person لقرب عهديه بالإسلام because he newly entered Islam they observed his situation his characteristics or what he is is that he just entered Islam and he's making حلال for himself something which is what it is haram he's making حلال for himself something which is haram and why are you doing that لقرب عهديه بالإسلام he is new to Islam اولي نشأتي ببادية بعيدة or he was he grew up in a outside a badia means an open livestock lifestyle where he doesn't live amongst the people of knowledge فإن حكم الكفر لا يكون إلا بعد بلوغ الرسالة that individual kufr is not placed on him until the proof is established on him وكثير من هؤلاء and a lot of those people قد لا يكون قد بلغتهم نصوص a lot of those people the evidence didn't reach them المخالفة نما يراه opposing what he sees he's never seen an evidence that goes against what he's doing ولا يعلم أن الرسولة بعثة بدالي and he doesn't even know that the messenger was set for this matter so he's new to Islam so this individual what it is obligatory that we distinguish that person and we see what type of person he is he just entered Islam we what but here we have to realize something if a person he hasn't heard this issue before okay he's unable to gain that knowledge he hasn't got it okay or he can't comprehend it the scholars they divide it into a person who is جاهل is ignorant and he doesn't have the ability to see knowledge okay he's unable to or to understand the scholars they categorize it into two types a person who is جاهل who is unable to seek knowledge and to understand it and he loves guidance he's really in love of guidance and the حق he loves the truth wherever it comes to him he will take it okay but he's unable to the scholars they say that person is excused for his ignorance and the evidence didn't reach him he didn't hear anybody explain to him he's a person who's a good hearted person evidence didn't come to him regarding this issue now he's in that place that no one's able to call into it the second one is الجاهل he's ignorant he's unable to gain knowledge and he's also unable to understand it he's unable to but he doesn't even want to he doesn't even want to gain it لا يراد التلهو he has no drive or anything rather he goes against it and he's pleased with his ignorance and his own affairs he's happy with it he will like the way he is his left doesn't push him to wanted to go out of his way and try to gain it this individual his situation is not like the previous one because they're different those two the third thing that we look into إن شاء الله تعالى is the situation or the bay of the person we look at the persons be at that they live in the lifestyle and the atmosphere and the environment that they live in we distinguish between what we distinguish between the places and the time where knowledge has spread and in the places and the time where knowledge is low the scholars we look at it he lives in a society and a place where it's the prophet the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم دعوة is absent from there he lives in the amazon forest for example this individual is different ولي ذلك الشيخ وليسان مطيم رحم الله he said about that individual he said إن الأمكينة التي تفتر فيها النبوة لا يكون حكم منخف يتعليه آثار النبوة حتى أنكر ما جاءت به خطأا كما يكون حكمه في الأمكينة والأزمنة التي رحلت فيها آثار النبوة الشيخ وليسان تيمير says the places where the prophet يقول الله محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم رسالة is hidden and is not there no one is not reached them they live in a place where Islam Muslim they've never heard of it they don't know anything of it and they they're up on the way they are شيخ وليسان يبنو تيمير as he said the ruling pertaining to that and the place and the time where knowledge is spread and the Tawheed and the prophetic message has reached them he says it's distinguished between the two I even said رحم الله تعالى وكثير من الناس قد ينشأ في الأمكينة والأزمنة التي يندرس فيها كثير من علوم النبوات حتى لا يبقى من يبلغ ما باعث الله به رسوله من الكتاب والحكمة فلا يعلم كثيرا منما يبعث الله به رسوله ولا يكون هناك من يبلغه ذلك ومثل هذا لا يكون ولي هذا تفق الأئمة على أن من نشأ ببادية بعيدة عن أهل العلم والإيمان وكان حديث العهد بالإسلام فأنكر شيئا من هذه الأحكام الظاهرة المتواترة فإنو لا يحكم بكفره حتى يعرف ما جاء به الرسوله صلى الله عليه وسلم آه شيخ وليسان تيمير he says a lot of people they might be raised in a place or a time where Islam is perished it's worn out and the prophetic knowledge has gone you see حتى لا يبقى من يبلغ and there isn't no one out there who's conveying that message to them from the Kitab and the حكمة and a lot of them فلا يعلم كثيرا منما يبعث الله به رسوله ولا يكون هناك من يبلغه ذلك they don't know the prophetic they don't know what the prophet is saying they don't know the hadith they can't read it themselves and there's no one out there exposing this issue to them or bringing it to their attentions he then says ومثل هذا لا يكفر that person تكفير is not placed on him and he says وليها تفق الأئمة that the ulema are unanimously in agreement that anybody who is born in a badia a place which is outside where the ulema and the people of knowledge are بعيدة عن أهل العلم والإيمان far from the scholars and the people of iman وكان حديث أحد بالإسلام فأنكر شيئا and he's immune to Islam and he rejects he rejects what a matter from the religion that is brought to him he just rejects it he said no I don't want to take this which is متواتر this matter فينولا يحكم بكفر even though if another person didn't he would have been referred to as a kathir this one wouldn't be why because he has to be may تكفير حتى يعرف ما أرجع به الرسول so that why is that because of the places acting as no one to teach him okay the issue that finally we're going to have to look at as well which is the fourth issue is is من حيث التسمية والعقوبة in terms of the name that we give him and in terms of the punishment and I'm going to conclude this issue إن شاء الله يتعالى because there's a lot of issues that can be said the issue of if a person is متلبس بالشرك a person he's fallen into شرك شرك الأكبر he's prostrating to an idol or a welly or a صاحب قبر a person in a grave what is the name in which we give this person this person is a مشرك ولو نطق بشهادة even if he says a shahada thing وقت سجود when he's doing this وأنه أتها ما ينقظوا قوله he came with something that would nullify the statement that he just said he's a مشرك لذاك شركة الإسلامي بلو تيميا رحمه الله سلم the name مشرك is the name مشرك is what is his we're gonna call him a مشرك as for the عقوبة the punishment of Allah the day of judgment الله might forgive him سبحانه وتعالى for ignorance for Allah تبارك وتعالى he may forgive him for what ignorance الله might سبحانه وتعالى and say that you have an excuse as ignorance the punishment may differ as for the name مشرك doesn't go we give that name to him he's a مشرك ونعامله معاملة المشركين and we deal with him the way we deal with him مشرك شركة الإسلامي بلو تيميا رحمه الله سلم واسم المشرك the name مشرك يثبت يثبت أن هذه الأسماء مقدم عليها وكذا اسم الجاهلي والجاهلية يقال جاهلية وجاهلا قبل مجيئ الرسول وأما التعذيب فلا بلو تيميا سبحانه وتعالى سبحانه وتعالى سبحانه وتعالى I've missed a couple of words of his I've missed a line واسم المشرك قبل قابها واسم المشرك ثبت قبل الرسالة فإنه يشرك بربه ويعديله به ويجعل معه آلهة أخرى ويجعل له أنداد قبل الرسول ويثبت أن هذه الأسماء مقدم عليها وكذا اسم الجاهلي ويقال جاهلية وجاهلا قبل مجيئ الرسول وأما التعذيب فلا يسمى المشرك تسمى المشرك يأتي منه حتى before the message of Islam reached him أمر القيس عن طرب نشد أولو كفار مشركين حتى before the prophet Muhammad came حتى before the prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم they are referred to as mushriks you see شيغو الإسلام التايمة we also refer to them as what أهل الجاهلية جاهلية are saying because they are ignorant but they are mushriks good before the prophet came to them good so here شيغو الإسلام التايمة he said أما التعذيب فلا as for the punishment as for عذاب فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا فلا he said they are before the prophet صلى الله عليه وسッ before the prophet came to place or he came on Top عليه سلم و بذلك the reason why they were called الجاهلية is because لكثرة جاء الق هذا because their ignorance was excessive and there are many evidences that a person can be given the title مشرك and Sh seguir even that ignore where's the eye on the Quran و إن أحدوا من المسركين فأجروا حتى يسمع كلام الله ثم أبلغوا مأمنى ذلك بأنهم قوموا لايحلمون الله سير وإن أحد من المشركين اذا كان one of the mushrik and the pagans come to you وإن أحد من المشركين استجارك فأجره give him shelter bring him in, he ask you for shelter and he says keep me home فأجروا حتى يسمع كلام الله he has a wadze of Allah ثم أبلغوا مأمنى ذلك بأنهم الله says the reason is because يا قوموا لا يعلموا الناس لا يعلموا بل الله سبحانه وتعالى وإن أحد من المشركين يوزوا الله تبارك وتعالى سنة لأية لم يكن الذين كفروا من أهل الكتاب والمشركين مون فكين حتى تأتيه خمل بينا أنت يأتي معهم مع ذلك وهبن هي سبوت وصف الشرك والكفري مع الجهلي فهذا يهم جهل كل هذا يحدث لهم قبل قيام الحجة والبيان قبل أن يفتحوا المشركين فكذلك الكثير من المشركين يجب أن يكون كتابة بحصل الأمر يجب أن يحتاج إلى عدر بالجهلي هذه الماتة العدر بالجهلي يهم جهل مراعات نوعا المسائل المجهول من الجهة الوضوح والخفا والنظر إلى أحوال الناس واتفاوت مداركه من جهة القوة والضعب واعتبار حال بيئته مكانا وزمانا من جهة وجود مظنة العلم من عدمي مع مراعات التفريق في الحكم بين أحكام الدنيا والأخرة كل شيء أخرى يجب أن نشاهد الماتة التي يمتلك هل أنها مرحلة أو ماذا هل أنها مرحلة هل من المسائل التي يمتلك هل من المسائل التي يمتلك أو هل من المسائل التي يمتلك واضح بيئة أن نرى ذلك نرى أيضا من المهم المهم الذين يتحدثون مداركه من جهة من قوة والضعف كيف يمتلك أيضا يجب أن نتشاهد بيئته بيئته ومداركه بيئته في بيئته وفي بيئته يجب أن نرى يجب أن نرى بيئته أم أن يقوموا بيئته وكل محصنة there are people who want to join or people live in Pakistan who want to join with the biggest they are ruling is different you see also we have to distinguish between what if there are ruler maa who are present at that place who are distinguishing the matter and we also finally which is the fourth one, which is the last one we also have to observe the worldly ruling that we give them فهذا بينهم و بين الله it's between them and Allah قد لا يعذبهم الله Allah may not punish them for it He might question them He might test them the day of judgment but for us he is a mushrik this name has to be given to him this name has to be given to him so this I think إن شاء الله تعالى is the way to bring all the أقوال الشيخ والسام و تيميا محمد من عبد الوهم إن حقيقة الأمر this mess is not an issue which you could say you can just say يعدر أو لا يعدر excuse is given or is it not but I think إن شاء الله تعالى with that the matter is إن شاء الله تعالى it makes a clear further طالب و علم a student of knowledge or the person who is looking for the hack نعم