 Good morning, and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Porter, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the commission's weekly webinar series where we cover a variety of topics that may be of interest to libraries. We broadcast the show live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Central Time, but if you're unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's fine. We do record the show as we are doing right now, and it is then posted to our website for you too much later at your convenience. And I'll show you at the end of today's show where you can access all of our recordings. Both the live show and the recordings are free and open to anyone to watch. So please share with your friends, family, neighbors, colleagues, anyone you think might be interested in any of the topics we have on the show. For those of you not from Nebraska, the Nebraska Library Commission is the state agency for libraries, similar to your state library. So we provide services and resources and training to all types of libraries in the state. So you will find shows on Encompass Live for all types of libraries. Public, academic, K-12, historical societies, corrections, museums, et cetera, et cetera. Really our only criteria is it's something to do with libraries, something cool libraries are doing. We bring on guest speakers, something interesting we think they could be doing. We do book reviews, interviews, many training sessions, demos of services and products, all sorts of things. Real mishmash. We have Nebraska Library Commission staff that sometimes come on the show to talk about things that we're doing here through the library commission, but we also bring in guest speakers. And that is what we have. That's what we're doing today. With us this morning is Jenny White. Good morning Jenny. And she is from our Skyler Nebraska Public Library. And she is going to talk to us about how in their library they built relationships. I couldn't hear you for a moment, but I can hear you now. Oh, okay. Yeah, it looks like you're cutting in and out a little bit there, but it looks like it's all good now. And she's going to talk about how they at their library built community relationships with their Spanish speaking population. So I will hand it over to you Jenny to take us away and tell us about what you did in Skyler. Okay, good morning everyone. Thank you for being here and listening to what happened to us here in Skyler. My first slide here is my ARSL Leadership Institute slide. That stands for the Association for Rural and Small Libraries. I was part of a leadership program with ARSL. I saw that. Congratulations, awesome. Yeah. Okay, I'll take a step back. I'm Jenny White. I am the Library Director at the Skyler Public Library. And as part of my participation in that program, we had to come up with a project that would benefit our library community. And originally my project was going to be bilingual story time in our library. And okay, I'll readily admit that having a story time in a library was pretty low hanging fruit. Oh, you're going to have story time in a library, how revolutionary. But after talking with my program leaders, I realized that what I was really reaching for was to see programming in Spanish in the library. And to do that, I needed to, I needed the library to build relationships with the Spanish speaking population in Skyler. I had previous programming in the library. And it was frustrating. I mean, we've all had those wonderful program ideas, and you get all your resources together, and you put it out there on a silver plate, and nobody shows up. Oh, yeah. So what was I going to do? How was I going to not have that happen? I'll tell you a little bit about Skyler. There we go. I, for some reason, don't remember how to advance my slides. You should be able to just click on it, and then you maybe use your arrow key. Okay, you right click on that to get rid of that. Right click anywhere on the screen. There we go. Go ahead and click that slide show button at the top again to get on full screen. And then you should be able to just use the arrow keys on your keyboard or click on the slide, and then it goes, there you go. Okay. Thank you, Pista. Okay, so Skyler is a town of around 6,500 people in eastern Nebraska. We're an hour away from both Lincoln and Omaha. The major employer in town is a meat packing plant that since the 70s has employed many Spanish speakers. So I went to the Census Bureau and I got some information about Skyler, and this is our employment pie chart, and you can see that manufacturing is the biggie. Also agriculture, because we are rural. I was actually very surprised that our clinic in town, healthcare, was a major employer, even more than our school system was. Okay, but anyway, so the meat packing plant in Skyler hired a lot of Spanish speakers, and now Skyler has grown into a town that has 75% of its population speaking Spanish in their homes. Yeah, we certainly have other languages talking to teachers in town. They said that there's over 12 different languages that are spoken in their students' households, but Spanish and English and our growing Somali population are the three biggies here in Skyler. The Omaha World Herald, the largest newspaper in Nebraska, had done articles on Skyler. They called it a seismic demographic shift. Wow. Okay, that's huge then, yes, absolutely. So how do I reach out and provide services to a population that really hasn't made use of their library? A community group that speaks a different language than me. Before we moved to Skyler, I had lived in Hong Kong for nine years. So I had experience of living in a country, a foreign country where I didn't speak the language. So I have empathy for the residents of Skyler who have just arrived or aren't fluent in English. I've been terrified trying to fill out my insurance form because the English translation was just not very clear. I've gotten, I don't want to say hijacked, but the taxi driver didn't understand how to pronounce my village name in Chinese, so he took me clear across town to some place I didn't even know. I've had experiences where the language barrier really inhibited communication and just left a mark. So moving from Hong Kong to Skyler, seeing that we had a large population of residents that weren't fluent in English, how do I get them into the library? We had some Spanish books in the library. We didn't have any Spanish speaking staff. We didn't have any programming in Spanish. So where do I start? What do I do? So last year's ARSL conference, I had the pleasure of hearing Jamie LaRue speak about the community assessment process. I'm sorry, Krista, I just keep talk, talk, talking. No, you're good. Yeah. I should tell everybody if you have questions, please let me know. Feel free to interrupt me at any time. Absolutely. Yep. Okay. So you might be more familiar with the community assessment process than I was. This was a new thing for me. And he was talking about the steps, you have your assessment, you do your planning, then you implement your plan, and then you achieve your results, and then you evaluate, and then you reassess, and you go back to planning, and it's the cycle of assessing your community, your residents. He gave us specific steps that we could take to identify community members and specific questions that we could ask them so I could start seeing patterns in the needs of my community. And if you take a look at these questions, none of them have to do with anything about the library. It's all about them. How did you get here? What is your story? What do you want to do going into the future? It was all about them. And I was like, oh, hey, yeah. How do I get the people that aren't normal library users to see value in the library have to find out what's valuable to them? And I was very excited because this was a great place for me to start. There were steps. I finally felt like this is something I can do. The whole point was for me to learn skills that would help me become more effective in my community. So this tickled me to no one because I had steps I knew what to do. So I started having conversations with community members that I was already, I had already interacted with. You know, the easy ones. I started with the director of the Heartland Worker Center. He's in charge. He works very closely with the packing plant employees. And the former library board president is now the coordinator of an early childhood education program here in Skylar. And they pointed me to other folks in Skylar who were organizers or representatives of their groups. Yeah, the first ones were easy. But they would refer me to somebody else and picking up the phone and calling a stranger and asking for their time was a little intimidating for me. Understandable, absolutely. Yeah, if you're not used to that, things like your regular. Yeah. I was very lucky because everybody was very generous with their time. Everybody was willing to give me a little bit of their time. I didn't have anybody say no yet. So I started having conversations and I did start to see some patterns right away. I kept hearing the words community and family and valued and respect. And I learned that Skylar is very proud of its multiculturalism, but they do recognize that there's not a lot of mingling between the different social groups, the different languages. And people were seeking out ways to bridge that. So I want to show that the library is a place for everyone. So I started out with little things. I make an effort to make our signage and our social media posts in bilingual to the best of my ability. I was lucky enough to receive a continuing education grant from the Nebraska Library Commission so that I could take some Spanish courses online. And so I tried to do everything in English version and a Spanish version. I have members of my library board that are bilingual. So they're very generous with their time proofreading all of my signage for me. So I can feel pretty confident when I put something out there that it will be understood hopefully. We just updated our policy book and I think I'm going to have to go pro with that. I really am going to have to get a native speaker to work through the entire policy book to translate it into Spanish so I can post it on our website. Amanda Sweet at the Library Commission helped us put a translation feature on our library website. So yeah, so they can choose Somali or Spanish or English and it will translate our website for us. I used our ARPA grant money to augment our Spanish and bilingual collections across all age groups, adult books, kids books, YA books. I would ask people that came into the library what their favorite authors were. I did not know Pablo Neruda was Chilean. I thought he was Spanish. It was a mistake. He's Chilean. So now that I know some important authors from different Spanish speaking countries, I can order those in. I was lucky enough to get a work-study student last summer and I noticed people would come in and ask for her. She graduated and went on to college, but I have another work-study student that's going to intern with us this summer also bilingual. So budgetary-wise, I'm not able to hire any new library staff right now. So the fact that I have an intern that is bilingual is going to be really helpful. I'm sorry, let me flip through some more slides here. I think I'm behind. Okay, so your bilingual people, is that Spanish or Somali? That is Spanish. I have some pictures here of some events that we had in the library that I was just really proud of the attendance because the connections that I had made in the community had really helped get the word out. They knew where to post my Spanish language flyer. They knew who to email to really get our attendance. The sentence I was trying to say was to really get our attendance at our programming bumped up. I should say that none of this programming was done in Spanish yet, but we did have higher attendance for programming in our library, which is a start. Through my connections, through my conversations, I knew who to contact to get the word out for our upcoming library events. Someone just asked about that right as you were saying it. That's so weird. I asked, so the programs are in English even though the ad is in Spanish and that is exactly what you just said. Yeah. So I hope that by showing that I'm making an effort to engage Spanish speakers in the library and providing services and materials in Spanish, it will encourage more participation and increased circulation of our Spanish language collection. Let me just go through here. I know that this is going to be something that's going to be ongoing. My program with ARSL is finished, but I know that I'm still always going to have to reach out. I'm still always going to have to ask questions. Learning what's important and necessary, not just with our Spanish speaking population, but also our growing Somali population and other diverse groups in Skylar. There's always that one person that you find that knows everybody. I haven't found that person in our Somali speaking population yet, but I will. So surprisingly, I started seeing progress right away. There were little things like I found myself being braver, speaking Spanish to patrons in the library. That practice with people is, yeah, that's huge. You just do it more and more and especially when they can respond back to you and possibly help and correct. Actually, that sounds a little more this way. They were very patient with me. Being able to ask a patron to practice, hello, I am studying Spanish. Will you practice Spanish with me? And having them understand me and me being able to understand that they need Trenta copias doble pinguinas in color. I could tell them la clase de ingles es los lunes y los miércoles a las cuatro y media. I am not the most sophisticated Spanish speaker by any means, but we could understand each other and we could get the job done. Like you said, I think showing that you are making the effort is a huge thing. Any group you're trying to reach out to that you're not part of. Yes. When I lived in Hong Kong, anybody that would smile at me and attempt to speak English won my heart. So I smile and I attempt to speak Spanish and I hope it helps. So through these conversations, I was asked to participate in a United Way project with our elementary schools and that partnership has led to much higher attendance in our kids' events. Do I have some pictures of that? Yep. Yogi in the park. There we go. I'm particularly proud of this group walk in the park with the T-Rex. That's awesome. We have this every Labor Day weekend. Last year, we had 30 kids and 20 parents show up for this event. The year before, we had three. Wow. I ran out of prizes. That made me so happy. There has been an uptick in the number of Spanish language materials being checked out and now we host a Spanish literacy class in the library that's for Spanish speakers. It's taught in Spanish by Schuyler teachers that grew up here. And I finally did start your story time. High-lingual story time. So now here is where I tell you how it all falls apart. Oh, we do have a comment that I didn't want to mention before you move on to that. One of your staff, Christine, is on with this and says that Jenny does very well speaking with the Spanish-speaking patrons. Thank you. Oh, and she wants, and I don't know if you're going to mention something about an author event that you want to do. We just had an author event in the library. It was Tosca Lee. She's from Fremont and it was one of our better-attended events in the library. And that got me thinking, I need to have a Spanish author, an author who has written something in Spanish to do an author event in Spanish at the library. That would be awesome. So if you have any suggestions, if you know anybody that has a book in Spanish, please feel free to let me know. Especially, I mean, sure anyone you'd be willing to bring in, but if they're, I have that Nebraska connection like Tosca Lee does, that would be great too. So yeah, anybody knows anyone or has any ideas in that share? Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty great. Any questions or mightings, we didn't have people come in since we started. In the questions section of your GoToWebinar interface, anyone has any questions, comments, suggestions, go ahead and type in there. And that's where I'm pulling these comments from for Jenny. Okay. Okay. When I say that it all fell apart, that might have been a little dramatic. But I definitely felt like we lost momentum. The person that I had connected with that was embedded in the school from the United Way, she resigned. And so my direct line of communication to that target audience was just snipped. And so now I'm like, oh, now I just have to start from the beginning again. And you know what? You just do it. You just have to start from the beginning again, reach out. Everybody knows somebody that you should talk to. So, you know, just go talk to them, you know, and it might lead to that partnership that's beneficial to both of your organizations. I had, you know, this, you know, Spanish English storytime. Nobody came to it. So for a while I was reading the books on Facebook Live and putting them on our website. But it's just, it's not the same as, you know, having, you know, kids there to interact with. So I'm trying to figure out how can I take that and modify it and bring it to, you know, the target audience, the Spanish speaking families, the bilingual kids. So I think what I'm going to do is school is over now. But in the fall we have a dual language program. It starts in kindergarten. I think it goes through third grade. But I'm going to reach out to them to see if the library can partner with them for story times at their school. Warrior Academy is our after school program here in Schuyler. And the library learned really quick to partner with that and not compete against that. Because yeah, they have pretty robust attendance. So we have, we have Book Club, Warrior Academy Book Club in the library. And I will, I'll introduce some bilingual and some Spanish language books with that. We'll see if there's any interest in that. Again, if anybody has any suggestions on how to, on interesting programs to try, please let me know. And I guess to kind of wrap things up, I guess, I guess you always want to, when you, when you watch a training or a informational video, you want to have one takeaway to take home with you. And I was trying to think what would my one takeaway be? What would be the one thing I would want on a bumper sticker? And I guess to, I guess for me it was, I learned that if there truly is a need here, you will start seeing results. You just have to go out there. You have to hear what they need and then try something new. Yeah, do the legwork to reach out. And that's a lot about a lot that libraries do in all areas is, yeah, reaching out, you know, looking at and is that what you're talking about? What you did is exactly, I'm always trying to tell libraries from here from the commission is look out into your community, find out what are your community's needs. Every library is unique. Every community is unique. We all know the standard. Here's what libraries do. They do like they do story time, they do whatever they do. But what is your community want? Like all those questions that Jamie LeRue had, that is perfect. Those are the things you'd be asking. Don't ask what can what do you need from the library? What can the library do for you? Just say what do you think about our town? What do you think about what's going on in town? What is not happening that you would like it to happen? What are the good things going on that maybe the library could join with as well, like you just said, partnering with? Don't take library out of the questions you ask and make them even themselves. And when the library, I think when the library staff come and ask, so we have a survey, we want to know what you think, what's going on in the community, they keep thinking, oh, a library is asking me, they want to know what the library wants, but what I want the library to do. It's like, no, no, we just want to know anything you want to say about the community. Yep. And I say that like it's so easy. Yeah, just get out there, just have some conversations, try something new. Yeah, it's just as easy and just as difficult as that. So yeah, so like I said, you know, I had heard a lot about community and being valued, you know, okay, what can I do to make them feel valued here? And you know, we'll, we'll try anything, you know, baby alligators, you got it. Absolutely. Everyone likes baby animals, yeah. Someone did have a suggestion for something to do, so family game night, like something that would be that families could that could do together. Yeah, so has anybody else done any of this kind of programming at your library? I know some of you may be here looking to, you know, get ideas for doing this. But if you've done it, share any successes or failures you've had, we all learned from our failures as well. We do have some other questions that have come up that I do want to make sure we get asked too. So you said that you took the Spanish speaking, the Spanish class from the grant that you got from us. Have you of any of your other staff taken any Spanish speaking classes or have you thought about having anyone else do that who's on your staff or on your library board? I know you said you have some people are bilingual. Yeah. None of my staff have really expressed any interest in that. We have, we have money budgeted for continuing education. If they're willing to give their time, let's make that happen. Well, 75% of your population speaking Spanish, that seems like that should be something that should be highly encouraged. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think the next time a job opening opens up in the library, that, yeah, that would definitely be on the pro column for potential candidates. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. So even though I, I don't speak Spanish very well and I don't really have much in-house staff, my library board has been very supportive and very helpful. Yeah, I do have bilingual members on my library board that help with day to day, you know, you know, translations and signage. They were very supportive of me taking the Spanish class and participating in this leadership program. So, yeah, and what I understand, sometimes you don't, sometimes out in the real world work, there can be some friction between the director and the library board. So it's great when you're, when you're working together in harmony. That's how it should be. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm very lucky in that regard. That's a, that's great to hear. All right, we do have some more questions and comments coming in. This is, this is great. Let's see, did you get much response from the community or the Spanish speaking community from the assessment or survey that you did? Was the, was those responses come, where did those responses come from, I guess? Those responses came from me going out and interviewing community members and community leaders. I didn't have like a survey monkey or anything like that. That was just me calling up, you know, the guy who owns the lumber yard and asking, hey, you know, can I have a bit of your time? I'm working on this project because I want the library to be more valuable in our community. And I just wanted your thoughts about Skyler. That's a great, yeah, doing those specific interviews with people, targeting someone, people you know who would have a good feel for what's going on in the town or who are, you know, the stakeholders in town, get them involved with the library because they could also spread the word about what you're doing after you talk to them. Yeah. And they were, and that last question there, who else should I talk with? They always have somebody for you to talk to. You know, they're like, oh, well, you might want to talk to, you know, the chief of police. You might want to talk to the guy that owns the tire store, or you might want to talk to this teacher at the pre-K building. They all have excellent ideas on who you should reach out to next. Awesome. Do you have a Chamber of Commerce in Skyler? I don't know. Yes, we do. That's a good one too. Yeah. The our Chamber of Commerce, Chamber of Commerce just co-hosted the Cinco de Skyler festival here, and it was outstandingly well attended. And it was just nice to, yeah, it was so much fun. And there were so many people. It was really good to see. Awesome. That'd be a perfect event to have like, I don't know what was available there, a table or something from the library or some sort of a library participation in that, yeah. I need to write that down too. Yeah. If they do another one. Do you know, so this is another question here. Do you know, and I don't know if you said this because I was, I may have missed it. You said that the most recent census says that you have 75% of the population speak Spanish. Did you look at previous censuses or to see how much of an increase that was? Like what did it used to be in like the last one? I did, but I don't remember it. So this was something that like the last time someone may have done this kind of research that wasn't something that really jumped, this is like a more recent. Well, it's more kind of this generation, because my husband is a Skyler guy. And when he was in high school back in the 80s, it was, it's very, it was very much check heritage. Everybody's great grandma. It was the Skyler area was settled by Czech immigrants. So that historically was the Skyler demographic. Then, like I said, we had a meat packing plant open up in town. I think it was like 69, 70. Yeah. And then they hired a lot of Spanish speaking employees. They settled in Skyler. They made it their home. And now we have, you know, the next generation and the next generation of Skyler. All right. So it's been a while. Nice. Okay. All right. I got some more comments and questions here. This is good. So someone has us with how they handle doing translations or like documents and flyers. They say we're using the translate feature in Canva to do your documents or your your flyers to do initial translation and then ask Spanish speaking staff to proof for crazy translations. Canva can do so much, I guess. And just going to, we want to double check. Yeah. I did not know Canva had that feature. So thanks for letting me know. Yeah. Canva is a great resource for making flyers and graphics and things. Even their free version is very robust. Okay. I should, I should touch upon. Okay. Here. Okay. Here I am. I'm Miss Blan Gringa. I'm moving to town and I'm like, let's, I did not want to be perceived as let's have a fiesta. You know, I guess I did not, I did not want to fall into the white savior. Or, you know, I didn't want to be culturally obtuse. And you mentioned earlier you want to be respectful. Yeah. This was very much a concern for me because I did not want to inadvertently disrespect or insult anybody's culture, anybody's language, anybody's country of origin. And so when I, when I started this, I asked those Spanish speaking library board members what they thought of my presentation and my project. I, I asked my regional library system members if they would listen and give advice. And they gave me some really good feedback. And they reassured me that since I went into it, asking questions, asking, you know, what their concerns were, what they wanted to see in Skyler, that that was, that was going to be more effective than just, oh, hey, I'm doing this thing and it's in Spanish. You want to do it, right? You want to come to the library because it's in Spanish, right? That's cool. So that, I mean, I still have that concern all the time. I spoke about the, the Paseo de Libros con T-Rex, the book walk in the park with the T-Rex. We, we had a bilingual book that we used for the book walk. And I was taking turns with the kids, you know, kids can read the Spanish section. I'll read the English section. We're, we're doing it together. And there was one little girl I was like, okay, yeah, you can read this page. Go ahead. And she was like, I don't know Spanish. I was like, that was just me assuming everybody in Skyler was bilingual. Sorry about that. You want to read the, you want to read the English part? Yeah, yeah. So I'm sure I've made plenty of mistakes, but people have been gracious and forgiving with me. That's awesome to hear. Yeah. So I had a question, but then someone else here mentioned it. So I'm going to read theirs. This is some, this is another library who's going to be, who says they are just starting off with this kind of thing. And I believe if I'm not mistaken from their, from Virginia, said we're just starting off, we will be having a resource day for Latino families this Friday, well with the Office of New Americans and two different health organizations to provide info on food banks, immigration, ESL classes, et cetera. It will also have face painting for the kids, plus a quiet corner with coloring book, coloring and books. We have Vox books, V-O-X, which are Spanish or bilingual stories that are, that read aloud. And she says we also have no Spanish speakers on staff, but I've worked to secure a few volunteers that speak Spanish and work with partners to run the event with only organizations that have a Spanish speaker on staff. And that was something I was going to ask about when you were talking about, we don't have any people on staff of these, you know, this is a lot of times the people in, in any programings that you do, your, your major users, your big users of libraries suddenly or your super users become volunteers because they're so appreciative of what the library does and so supportive of it. So that was something I was going to ask about is possibly some of these families that have been coming in, the Spanish speaking families or Somali, asking them if they wanted to volunteer at the library and then you kind of, they become part of the staff or in some way. Taking notes on all of this, these are all ideas. Yeah, so you said you don't have the, you can't, you know, the ability to hire anyone new at the moment, that seeing if anyone wants to do some volunteer work, set up a program for, for that. I would recommend to next year, if you apply for an internship grant from us and specify that you want to have an intern that is Spanish or Somali speaking. And then this is something we have here at the library commission for those of you from Nebraska, you know about it. If you don't, we do internship grants that we provide to public libraries and we give them the actual funds to pay the interns. So it's a paid internship. So we can provide either 500 or $1,000 depending on how long you want the intern to work to, so they get paid a salary to actually be an intern. So no inpaid, unpaid internships, but that is something you can definitely do. And I would give you the money for that. Yeah. And the participant from Virginia mentioned box books. Yes. We have something similar. They're called wonder books, but it's basically a bilingual kids picture book and there's a little device on the cover that will read it out loud. So, yeah. So we, yeah, we used some of our ARPA grant money to get those. And I've seen, I've seen parents check them out to read with their grand, their kids and their grandkids. So it's, it's serving their purpose and it makes me happy. Yeah, awesome. That's just another suggestion just popped up here in the questions that the National Honor Society key clubs and other student groups like that are also resources that they work with theirs and next year they're hoping to involve the Spanish there's a Spanish Honor Society Spanish student groups, you know, get the teens and helping out as well. Very good recommendations. Yeah, these are all great ideas. And I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm sorry, I didn't think of that myself. Anybody have any other questions that is all the ones that had come in and that I had? So I caught up on everything that was entered. We still, we have like about five more minutes left of our hour, our official hour. Does anybody have anything else they want to ask of Jenny? Anything you want to share that you're doing at your library? Type into the questions section. Well, I don't know if how many libraries are participating in the collaborative summer. All the summer reading program theme this year. Yeah, all together now is the theme. Yeah. So yeah, I like that they are that they provide multilingual resources. They've done that for a while, which is great. Yeah. Mm hmm. Another tip just came in says I haven't started it yet, but I hope you have a Spanish or ESL conversation practice club for those wanting to learn Spanish or those who want to learn English. So you may have, you know, like you said, the previous generations that are still seeking mostly Spanish, but need to, as you said, communicate with our kids or grandchildren more. Have a practice club where you can just come in and practice speaking to each other. That's a great idea. Thank you so much for these great ideas. Okay. And another question here. They want to know if you could, this is from someone else has a question here. Could you speak, talk a little more about how you did that original connection identification, I guess, finding out who to contact. We're in an area with a growing Spanish speaking population, but who really haven't had that first date, quote, the library to know how to engage with it. And I'd love to know more about those initial steps. Okay. Well, who to contact and who, yeah, who are the right people in town that would know this. Well, we started off just making a list. And you're like, okay, education, the schools in town. Who would be a person that we should reach out to at the elementary school, at the middle school, at the high school? Okay. Law enforcement. Do are there any Spanish speaking police officers? Do we need to talk to the chief of police? What about, we just kind of systematically went through a list of all the, I guess, entities in town and kind of brainstormed who to talk to first there. I'm trying to think of more categories that we had besides education and law enforcement, civic groups. We have Sir Tomahere in Skylar. Maybe there's Rotary Clubs or like Krista mentioned the Chamber of Commerce. Then religious groups in town, different churches, Spanish, Spanish language churches. Yeah. I mean, the process that was talked about at the workshop I went to, it was very specific and was, it was a lot more than what I did. I mean, there was like, okay, you need to identify your shareholders. You need to do, and then I was just like, you know what, I can call the chief of police and talk to him. I can call the pastor and talk to them. I did a more, I did a simplified version of it. Like I said, I mean, you're out there, you might be a lot more familiar with the community assessment process. It was a revelation to me, and I'm like, I'm going to call everybody in town. I'm still working on that. But yeah, to get back to the question, identifying who to start with. Yeah, it was just, it was as simple as that. We just kind of sat down and thought about the different entities in town and who would we initially contact. And then when we had our conversation with them, they would recommend who to reach out to next, and we would go that way. You know, just go next person, next person. Yeah. Awesome. Great, thank you. And here's a suggestion too. A lot of times in schools now, children or teens have to do community service hours as part of school, and adults may need to do them for various reasons. And so here's a suggestion about how about using Spanish-speaking children in school or adults who need to do community service hours to serve as translator translators or to help at programming. Volunteering at the library should definitely, I think, count as community service hours. I know that's something that in the school is a lot. That's a requirement now for the kids. They have to do a certain number of hours of community service. So that'll be something to suggest or find out from your school how you get on their list, I guess, of where they can go for community service. I assume they have some sort of list to tell them where to go. Yeah. And that, I really do think that that is an untapped resource for Styler, because I know that they have to be, I know that they're out there. I just need to make myself and the library available to them. These are all good suggestions. Absolutely. We have a question for you. Another question here that pops up. Awesome. I have in a small library that is starting to see more Spanish-speaking patrons. Our collection is small, limited to board books and picture books for the Spanish books. Do you have a recommended publisher that has English, Spanish youth and adult books that you purchase from? I mean, you mentioned the other person mentioned Vox. You mentioned the Wonder Books for the ones that read. But where else specifically are you getting your Spanish language titles? Well, for youth and adults. We order the majority of our books from Baker and Taylor. I also subscribe to a lot of newsletters. So I believe it's just called Spanish Publishers. They exclusively publish Spanish and I think some bilingual and they send out newsletters with the cover and the English description and the Spanish description so I can see if it would be interesting or useful to our patrons. And then I try and order it from our standard distributor. I have to admit Baker and Taylor usually doesn't have a whole lot of stock of those books. And sometimes we have to wait for them to back order it from the publisher. I'm trying to figure out how I can do tax exempt purchasing directly from Spanish publishers, the company. Yeah, I just googled it and Spanish publishers and I put it in quotes. Yeah, it's Spanish publishers.net is the website and it is a wide selection of Spanish titles in every category, translations of American bestsellers, as well as worst of renowned Spanish authors. It says they are one of the top providers Spanish titles in the U.S. Yeah. And sometimes I have to use Big Bad Amazon. Sorry. You got to go where you can find things somewhere sometimes. That Follett uses Spanish publishers too. So if you do Follett's as you're there, that's one of their vendors that they use. So yeah, Spanish publishers.net. And also Language Lizard, those were kids books and they're bilingual. And I think we bought every single kids book that was Somali English from them. But yeah, Language Lizard has a really good selection. They have a selection of bilingual kids books. Yeah, there we go. Bilingual children's products and over 50 languages. Here I am going to, because I've been looking at these things. I'm going to pull presenter control back to my screen here because I have been looking these things up so I can show you all what these look like. There we go. Thank you for doing that, Krista. I didn't put together a slide. Yeah, no, that's good. So yeah, there's, yeah, so language lizard.com, bilingual children's products and over 50 languages. They hit Spanish publishers.net. US bestsellers in Spanish. I looked up Vox books. I'm not sure if this is the right one for that or not. But was the one you said Wonder Books? Wonder Books. Wonder Books Audio, I assume that would be. Oh, is that through Playaway? Yeah, it is. There it is. Okay, it comes up as Playway. Oh yeah, Playway. Wonder, okay. Oh, come on. It's been very slow. There it is. Wonder Book, yeah. So lots of great recommendations there. Any other questions anybody has? We're a little past 11 o'clock, but that's okay. We started a little past 10, and we don't have to stop. Okay, just because we are time, we can go as long as it takes to answer all your questions and for Jenny to share all she wants to. And yeah, the person here just shared the link to a Vox one, voxshop.libraryideas.com. There we go. That's the one. Vox Publishing for those multilingual audiobooks. And when I put together the recording for today's show, I will include links to all of these suggestions here that I've got up. So you'll have access to them there as well in the archive page. If I can just make a book recommendation. I love the Pequeño Pes Blanco books. I don't know how to pronounce the author's last name, but the illustrations are super cute. The Spanish is right at my elementary level of understanding. So it's a cute little bilingual book about a little white fish, Pequeño Pes Blanco, and the adventures that he goes on. So if you need a recommendation for a bilingual story, you can't go wrong with Pequeño Pes Blanco. Nice. Yeah. All right. So you got Vox, Wonder Book with Playaways, Language Lizard, and Spanish Publishers. All right. All right. Any other last minute, desperate questions anyone wants to ask before we wrap things up for today? We do have some thank yous coming through. Laura in free month says, Fab is presentation. Thanks, Jenny. She had to go and take care of a building issue as we all need to do something. Well, thank you, Krista, and thank you to all the listeners. I appreciate you giving me your time. I am not an expert by any means, but if I can give it a try and if I can see results, you can too. So just, you know, I just want to leave on a positive note. I know that it can be overwhelming and very frustrating, but, you know, just get out there and have some conversations and you will see results. Dive in and just try. All you're going to do is try. Yeah. Awesome. All right. So thank you so much, Jenny. I'm so glad we're able to have you on today with us. This was a session, actually, I didn't mention the beginning that was originally submitted. She submitted this proposal for doing this session for our Big Talk from Small Libraries online conference that I host here through the Library Commission. It's at the end of February and it is co-sponsored by the Association for Real and Small Libraries. But we always get too many proposals that can fit on. It's only one day of end and I think too many. So I'm very happy that I can get some of them to come on and help us live so we get to hear about everything that everyone's doing. So thank you so much for being here today. And thank you everybody for attending. So I think we'll wrap things up. As I said, we are recording the show and it's going to be available on our Encompass Live website. I'm going to pop over there right now and show you how to get to that. If you use your search, any, whatever your search engine of choice is and type in Encompass Live, the name of our show, we are the only thing called that on the internet right now. Nobody else can use that name. And you'll find our main page where we have our upcoming shows listed. But at the bottom there's a link to our archives. If you click on there, you've got the most recent one at the top of the page. Today's show will be here. Should be up and ready by the end of the day tomorrow at the latest as long as I go to webinar on YouTube, cooperate with me. There'll be a link to the show recording and to Jenny's slides. If you want to send me the link to that or send them to me when you get a chance, we'll add that. I'll also add the link to all of these different book purchasing suggestion places that we have here. Everyone who attended today's show and registered for today's show will get an email from me letting you know when it's ready. 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That is because this is our full show archives and I'm not going to scroll all the way down because if you can see over here this is a giant list. This is our full show archives going back to when Encompass Live first premiered which was in January 2009. We are going on 15 years now. Oh my gosh. So if you do watch an older show, just pay attention to the original broadcast date. It's on every show so you can know when we first did it. Many of the shows will be fine and the test of time is to be good, relevant, useful information, but some things will become mold or outdated. Resources and services may have changed drastically. Some may have disappeared and no longer exist. Links may be broken because of that. Staff, people who did presentations for us may now work at a completely different library or not work in libraries at all anymore. You never know. So just pay attention if you do watch an older show to what the date was and keep that in mind. But this is something we do as librarians. We keep things for historical purposes for people to refer back to and as long as we have a place to keep these we will always have them available. Right now it's all as I said all of them are on our Library Commission YouTube channel. All right so that wraps it up for today. Here's our upcoming shows for the next couple of months. We've got Olive June and July booked up so you can see all of our shows we've got coming up. Next week it is the last Wednesday of the month and that means it is pretty sweet tech day. As you can see here every last Wednesday of the month there's a session called Pretty Sweet Tech. This is when our technology innovation librarian Amanda Sweet comes on the show and talk about something techie related. So if you are a tech person in your library you're interested in technology this is the ones to keep an eye on last Wednesday of every month. Amanda will be talking to us and next week we have a guest presenter coming on with her. Dan Lu who is from the Palo Alto City Library is going to talk about their FarmBot program. Raising vegetables and things using robots. It's really it's really cool. This is a session that Amanda attended and saw at the internet librarian conference last fall and we now have Dan is coming on the show. She's coming on the show to share what they did there. So please do sign up for that one. Hopefully see you next week or on any of our other upcoming shows. Thank you everybody. Thanks Jenny and we hope to see you all on a future episode of Incompass Live. Bye-bye. Bye.