 Give the people what they want. Give the people what they want. Give the people what they want. Your weekly movement news roundup. Today is Monday, the 21st of February. You're surprised to be with us. We're supposed to be with you only on Friday. On the other hand, it's Red Books Day. One of the most important days on the calendar of the International Left. As important as May Day. It's on the 21st of February 1848 that a young Karl Marx and a very young Frederick Engels sitting in Brussels in Belgium finished their pamphlet The Communist Manifest to it was published for the first time on the 21st of February. Little did they know that soon thereafter Europe would rise up in a rebellion called the springtime of the peoples. Little did they know, little did they know at that time that it would become the most red book in world history perhaps up there with other religious texts but you know Bible and so on. Let them be communist manifesto save my life. Red Books Day comrades started today in Indonesia. In Kerala, half a million people decided to read together in 35,000 meetings. The day is going to go across Africa, Europe, Latin America eventually the sun will set in Hawaii when Red Books Day will come to a close. We have some special guests for you today. I'm going to start just by telling you that because in Kerala half a million people sat down to read what they read together with the writings of our great intellectual EMS Nambudri Pad the first Chief Minister of Kerala the Communist Party of India member at the time later General Secretary of the Communist Party of India Marxist for many years. Well, I wanted to share a little bit about these books because where two of them are published by Leftward Books and that is going to be important in the story in a second. I wanted to share with you something interesting. EMS Nambudri Pad wrote about everything. He took Marxism by the throat and shoved its face into the soil of India. He wrote about Indian peasant struggles. He wrote about Indian history. He tried to tell the story of Indian history from a Marxist perspective. What would Marxist tools look like when they confronted the reality of India? How to understand for instance the question of caste one of the most wretched hierarchical institutions in the world how to deal with that EMS Nambudri Pad directly confronted the question of caste in several important essays. But the essay that I have often turned to when I think about EMS Nambudri Pad there are a couple one is very important essay on the women's movement in India. Today in fact in New Delhi the All India Women's Democratic Association welcomed the new press officer from the Cuban Embassy and they sat down and discussed issues such as the Cuban Federation of Women and what the agenda is there and what the agenda is in the Indian women's movement and so on. EMS played a big role in the founding of the All India Women's Democratic Association but the essay that I wanted to mention briefly before I hand it over to our lovely guests that we have here is an essay based on a seminar that EMS gave. You know in 1973 in Santiago, Chile there was the coup against the government of Salvador Allende and in the middle of the coup on the 11th of September Allende was killed. Very shortly after in India in a Trivandrum there was a seminar held on the question of what had happened in in Chile and EMS Nambudri Pad wrote a very long paper where he went in in great detail to what had occurred in Chile. He looked at the developments carefully and you know far off in India didn't matter that it was you know thousands of kilometers away far off in India EMS Nambudri Pad had a paper called Chile and the Parliamentary Road to Socialism. Now you know what's amazing about this this paper is he firstly talks about what happens in South America in detail as I said but then he tries to recover what is the lesson from this this occurrence that took place far from India and he looks into the question of disarming the people you know how to protect the people from the agents of imperialism in this case the military led by General Augusto Pinochet and he comes out and he says let's consider what would have happened had the people been armed and brought to the street to politically confront the coup but he's very careful at the end this is what he says and I'm going to read these sentences just to give you a taste of our leader EMS Nambudri Pad it would be wrong to draw the conclusion that whatever opportunities arise for such a development of the popular democratic forces leading to such a situation as the emergence of rival centers of power you know bring the people onto the street create dual power he said whatever happens he says let's look at the question of Indonesia and Chile two countries where the left was decimated by brutal violence he says making facile assumptions and working out tactics in accordance with these with what with the close study of the reality of the situation is the essence of you know struggles in other words we've got to look not just at India we've got to take Marxism and make it look at India but not just that got also pull the camera back look elsewhere in the world and learn our lessons today red books day twenty twenty two EMS Nambudri Pad super character to be reading now we're going to go to Europe to Berlin where I must say there's a beautiful statue of Marx and Engels and in Berlin we're going to meet Francisca Kleiner who is with the International People's Assembly Francisca welcome to give the people what they want and since the people want somebody from Germany the original language of the communist manifesto what are you reading hello all thank you so much for inviting me it's such an honor I'm a big fan of give the people what they want and a big fan of every single one of you people so that's like I don't know it was a very stressful invitation to come here because I'm going to try my best when you asked me what I was reading for red books day I went to my bookshelf and I found children's books lots of them like there's fresh there's novel stories for children I found I found picture books for people who don't like reading you know like graphic novels about Rosa Luxemburg I found really tiny books like quotations from Chairman Mao and then I found really big books and I even found some books by VJ and all of these things and so I found it all very very difficult and of course there are the classics of like actual there's some marks some linen I found it very difficult to choose and as I was going through them and reading a little bit here and a little bit there I got stuck on a book that was a little bit surprising to me I haven't read it in a very long time and it's called Sonya's report it is wait a second can I can you see this yeah it is by a woman called Ruth Werner but then her name wasn't Ruth Werner her name was Ursula Kuczynski and maybe she also had a thousand other names she's a German communist this is her autobiography she's a German communist she just died in 2000 I know her I've come to know her as a children's author when I was young because she lived in the GDR and published children's books there in her autobiography Sonya's report she tells the story of how she was politicized she was born the beginning of the beginning of the 20th century so she speaks about was a Luxembourg and you know the things that actually happened in Berlin at the time she is from Berlin she speaks about how she joined the communist youth in Berlin how she how she organized the you know the workers with the workers worked and learned with them and then she does surprising things she moves to Shanghai in 1930 where she facilitates conspiratorial meetings with local and foreign communists and she sends like messages from like later on a little bit she sends messages from the from the Japan fascist occupied territories of China to the Soviet Union and she works for the I think it would be called the military arm of the secret service and so she sends messages from occupied Poland and then later she moves on to Britain where she spies in Britain for the Soviet Union and she is maybe best known for being a courier for Klaus Fuchs and Melita Norwood who some people maybe know as like the atomic spies because they hasten in fact in the end that the Soviet Union is also able to produce an atomic bomb in 1949 now I know it's an autobiography and I think that learning history or like gaining political understanding from autobiographies and real life stories can be a bit tricky because it can create sort of like a hagiography like a way where you just look at history of great men rarely great women but in this case it would have been a great woman where you learn sort of individualized stories so that individuals make history but then I also feel that like life stories can be incredibly compelling and real and to see how like for example Rudwana herself how she learned, how she grew how she handled the contradictions of all the different roles she has to play in her life like as a member of the Communist Party as a member of a core inspirational group in a foreign country at that women and the mother and you know running between like bougie circles and again the working class groups that she actually wants to work with and how you sort of learn from her dedication and her humbleness and the conviction of like working for humanity so maybe it's actually something like a counter hagiography that shows that like you can be embedded in the world and in a group and you can work and live as a Communist and it's actually more inspirational and makes it not so much that there's only heroes but so much more that there's humans who are fighting with us so this is what I got stuck with reading all night because you made me and you asked me what I should bring and so this is what I have but before you go can you please in terms of the world you have nothing to lose but your chains in German I don't even know how that goes in German wow what she said what she said that's amazing really enjoyed it this is a book by Ruth Werner and we're going to have a list of these books available for people later thanks a lot thank you guys now Zoe is sitting with a very interesting looking spiders web of red books amazing so impressed by that Zoe I know you've been traveling all over the place bringing stories to give the people what they want people's dispatched of course everybody knows people's dispatched dot org do you get time to read any books or what's going on do reporters read yes they do read but for a while I was in a bit of a reading rut I found it very hard after reading articles the whole day and you know just the exhausting work of reporting it was really hard for me to like get back into reading and I struggled with this for a while and then I visited my lovely comrade and he bestowed upon me this isn't the actual one but he gave me a copy of his amazing book Washington bullets and you know as I think if people have heard VJ talked about this book before it's designed to be readable because books should be read they're not just to sit on the shelf and make you feel intimidated and so this book you know it's written in the format of as you say VJ Facebook posts and so it was really for me the perfect kind of reinsertion into you know building a reading habit building and engaging in study I mean beyond it being accessible and you know something that I felt comfortable reading it's also an incredibly important text in the sense that it really brings to the present decades of US foreign policy reminds us at a very important moment how the US operates I mean I think it's incredible the way that you were able to you know study these documents that exist in the public domain and you know some of them we don't even know about about how the CIA operates I especially love the intro which was written by Evo Morales shortly after you know he was overthrown in one of these Washington bullets style coups which you know in detail discuss you talk about the strategy which is used and it's sometimes I think we talk a lot about US imperialism and we can look in the past and say oh that was a US backed coup that was a US backed thing and sometimes in the present it's hard to identify these patterns and sometimes we can fall into certain habits of you know I mean there were a lot of well meaning people during the coup in Bolivia who said oh but you know what's really happening here I mean it was a violent coup backed by the military that's what it is and so yeah and I just really love this book you know it brought you know personally because it really brought me back into the you know feeling confident in reading and studying and I'm just gonna read a line from Evo's intro because I think it's really powerful we must work together towards a world in which greater respect for the people and for Mother Earth as possible in order to do this it is essential for states to intervene so that the needs of the masses and the oppressed are put first we have the conviction that we are the masses and that the masses over time will win really beautiful words by Evo I encourage everyone to get this book if you haven't read it already now I forget how many sections are but it does give you know very detailed kind of factual, historical manual really of how the US carries forth these regime change operations, coups, what Washington bullets really means, what is the human toll of this really pick it up and yeah that's my book for today and I know I'm putting you on the spot Vijay because it's written by you but I had to read that too Well embarrassing but good seriously look at Zoe's setup today she is at the People's Forum which had a reading of the Communist Manifesto all day on Sunday in the lead up to Red Book's day today I must say nobody thus far and this is a challenge for the rest of the world nobody is going to be able to come close to what's happening in India where you know hundreds of thousands of people are participating in Red Book's day I'm putting out a public challenge to other parts of the world to come close to India I know that later today the landless workers movement in Brazil will be reading books in the various encampments and so on yes I know that so let's see what did I say half a million people in Kerala read EMS's work today also people in India in Delhi I mean one of them is the person who is the one of the main coordinators of Red Book's day and that's Nitesh Narayanan Nitesh are you with us today have you arrived from your million activities that you've been on I hope he can join us he has been at many activities all day and I must say before Nitesh joins Puli in Delhi the students federation of India went to protest the killing of a student in Bengal Anise Khan and they were detained by the police well I got a message from Oishi Ghosh one of the student organizers and she had laid down a bunch of Red Books on the ground outside the police station they had hoped to sit there and do their Red Books in front of the police station in the protest but they were detained so they had to leave the the books sitting there very active you know the students federation of India Nitesh is also on the executive committee of the students federation of India not sure if his camera will work in a little bit but let's see Prashant were you able to get out today in Delhi to have a look at some of these events no sadly I've been stuck in office all day of course but before Nitesh joins us I wanted to quickly put you on the spot again and ask you something about how basically Red Books Day was conceived as in what really how did this idea come about is the third year I believe so do take a give us a history lesson there okay very quickly in 2018-17 I can't even remember our comrade and author Govind Pansare was shot to death at the age of 82 on the 16th of February and he died on the 20th of February it was a real shock for for us I mean he was a veteran trade unionist a communist a lawyer but apart from anything else a popular educator who had written a terrific book called who was Shivaji and Pansare was shot to death we were quite surprised by this in the leftward office so Danva Deshpande my close comrade and friend and a few other colleagues at leftward we had a conversation you know we need to find a better way of talking about the attacks on left authors left publishers left bookshops you know left magazines and so on and we raised this question with the other left Indian publishers with you know Bharatiputakalam with Chinta with National Book Agency with Kriya and others and people got excited with the idea we came out and said let's go for a red books day this was in 2019 actually the idea was was floated on February 21st 2020 just before the pandemic hit us we held the first red books day and it was beautiful it started in a loft in Seoul South Korea and went all the way out to Cuba you know in Tamil Nadu itself 35,000 people in villages and towns read the communist manifesto we've held it every year since then last year in the middle of the pandemic it was difficult this year I must say it was a home run for Kerala otherwise the home state of Prashant so that everybody is clear and also Nitesh Nitesh what have you been reading? what a coincidence Nitesh what are you reading for red books day given that you are one of the main organizers of red books day Hi Vijay and Zoe Prashant I was holding this throughout the day it's just means maybe I don't know whether you have the smallest version of this but this is the smallest communist manifesto I have see I can keep it in my pocket I was holding this to my heart throughout the day yeah I could attend two means gatherings today one was with the leaders of all India Kishan Sabha and all India Agriculture Workers Union Students Federation of India in its national headquarters all India headquarters we held a meeting where the leader of the historic person movement leaders of the historic person movement in India joined and they were talking about how the books were inspiring them in shaping the political consciousness also the younger it was a meeting of both the senior activists the leaders of class movement and also the leaders of mass movement student wing and all then we went to a place from where the very idea of celebrating red books day emerged that is the left word books made a bookstore and there was a vibrant gathering at left word studios of the today joined by the cultural activists from Delhi University a very vibrant enthusiastic singing group from Genesam Skridi another cultural active group and there was a talk by professor Surajit Majumdar on the relevance of communist manifesto people were reading communist manifesto in multiple languages Malayalam, Telugu, Bengali, Assamese and all and yeah so it was really something which means sponsor an inspiration and enthusiasm for all of us and yeah I was this is my third means gathering in a way today for red books day but today has been amazing there were people without anybody's direction how organized started organ this is where we saw red books day maybe after a five or six years so there will be an organized efforts in the initial years but that will lead up to a moment where people without anybody's direction will come to the streets will organize something but on the third year itself we have achieved that to an extent there were people without any notification without any circular without any direction from the top there were people who were organizing red books day there were youth activists in some part youth activists who were donating red books to the local libraries means this is not going to end today this is going to stay for ever the red books day program started today it's going to in some places it's going to there were in areas like tribal areas and all people have gathered and discussed on the red books day and as Vijay already mentioned half a million people have read or many of them are still reading now we are talking thousands of thousands of people are still reading in small groups in every nook and corner of means Kerala I am a member of communist party of India marches from Kerala if I was there I would have joined with my local comrades today to read communist manifesto and also today remember today morning when everybody was getting ready to write on red books day celebrate red books day we lost a comrade in Kerala one communist was hacked to death by the RSS see on the one side we are doing the politics of book on the other side they are taking blood it is book versus blood today is we have seen it's a book versus blood the book of ideas hope inspiration, courage, unity commitment, dreaming a better world is represented by by lax of people across the world on the other side the right wing is strong as long as you read you move on with your red books they are there with thirst with a blood thirsty mind setup so that battle is on but definitely in this battle there is a lot to get confidence today that streets and the social media platforms are proof for that so I am very much inspired and enthusiastic right didesh one quick question though could you take since you mentioned the communist manifesto as your red book for the year tell us about when you first read the manifesto what kind of an impact did it have on you if you can remember the first time I don't remember exactly at what age I read but definitely it will be in the school time I don't think it is that I read communist manifesto but before that communist manifesto has reached to me in the shape of some slogans some songs which we sang in the Balasangam children's organization meetings which we sang in the political rallies so like the workers of the world unite it is a famous song it is a popular song I am sure communist manifesto reached to me with all these things with all means some quotations some slogans some songs and we reached out to this beautiful text thank you so much Natesh that is really amazing that you can share with us the incredible activities being you know taking place across India of course we join in rage and in mourning about the comrade that was you know assassinated today and it is so important on this day to remember all of the martyrs who have been killed because of their struggle because of their struggle for a better world for more just world for their beliefs and so we hold those close today as well as we continue you know raising our red books and fighting for a better world so thank you so much Natesh so glad to speak with you and thanks for you know coordinating and heading this great effort of Red Books Day thank you yeah thanks and next we are going to be joined by a very great comrade a very dear comrade you know close friend of mine and she is Laura Capote she is from the Alba Secretariat she's also part of the Colombian social movement Marcha Patriotica Laura thank you so much for joining us today and tell us about your red book today first thank you so much for inviting me second all of you know that I don't speak very well English so first I say that that's going to be a very accidental English but I'm going to try to do the best for you so oh my God it's a very difficult question for a Latin American girl and militant because we are all in our lives all the time we read every time read books and we want always to learn about more red books and this space is very hard to me to take one or choose one for say to you so I'm going to talk about two red books one that it's my favorite one it's the what is the book that I'm reading now okay so the first about what is my favorite red book I'm going to talk about the first red book that I read in my life that changed my life literally and it's very important to me because when it was a child I had 12 or 13 years I went with my friends and my dad I lived in Nigeria in Bota Colombia and we walk among the stands and in one of them I saw a lot of book covers with a face that looks familiar to me that's a person who looks familiar to me and in that moment I remember that in our house there was a picture of that face that exactly face so I asked my dad who was that person and he answered me that person was the Che Guevara one man in the history of Latin America and told me that if I want I could choose any book of the stand and to read about him so I saw a few books and I choose a magazine from Ocean Sur called Contexto Latin Americano it's here that this is my first third book that compiles some species and writes of the Che Guevara along his whole life signs the trips in Latin America and all the experiences around the world and additional to that the magazine close with reflection of militants and intellectuals in Latin America about the Che Guevara example in today's context today in that moment I don't know 12 years ago so obviously my head in that moment exploded and in the first pages two or three pages my dad explode and because I can't believe that one person like that had exist after that obviously and all the questions that I make to my dad and he showed me more of chess books talking about talking about the Che Guevara Revolution and next to that he started to tell me about who was a man called Marx and another man called Lenin and about October Revolution and everything that I'm doing in my life now I think that the start in that moment with that conversation and questions and after read that book like I said my life has never been the same because was the gateway I think that the first moment to go to a world that guide all the decisions that I took in my adult life and show me that the humanism is a moral guide as a moral guide is the most important thing and the most important quality of a person and especially of a revolutionary person so I think that it's the most beautiful I have it's my first gift of my dad and was a red book and the second it's a book that I'm reading now it's a very important book for me that it's about Tiro Fijo about Manuel Marulanda Vélez that is an important leader of the Guerrilla of Park in Colombia that organized thousands of farmers to take the guns to fight for a new Colombia and for me it's so important it's a book about Arturo Alape and called the tale of the story of Manuel so those are my favorite red books and thank you so much for inviting me here that's an amazing story Laura and it's great when we can reflect upon how we entered the struggle, what was that moment and I think there's so many moments for all of us when we realized nothing was gonna be the same and we'll always be guided by humanism as you say, by great leaders and martyrs like Che Guevara people who continually guide us every single day so I think that's really a beautiful reflection and definitely have to pick up the second book that you also mentioned, it sounds great and thanks so much for sharing with us and have a great rest of your red books day Thank you, bye bye, thank you so much Laura, well, Prashanth you know as a coming from Kerala, India we know a little bit about the tradition there seems to be a tendency of people from Kerala maybe a little, can you tell us a little about again like I said, what a coincidence maybe there's a pattern there tell us a little bit about your favorite red book maybe a little bit about Kerala That's a tough one, I'll go with the first question that's easy, but of course Kerala has a very long and glorious history of left organization of course and like I think both Vijay and Nitish hinted at both points of time left organizing which is like all good left organizing very rooted in culture, very rooted in a diversity of social organizations for instance one of the most important movements of the left in Kerala was the public library movement and even today it's a very important pillar of the left organization so to speak because leftist activists were very active across India and also especially in Kerala in literacy campaigns to start with but also in establishing public libraries and maintaining public libraries in the left government very strongly supported that there is a very strong movement which has been dedicated to progressive culture again a characteristic of left, the left across the country has very strong intervention in aspects of all kinds of culture it's not just books of course but music, dance, poetry so there's this very glorious tradition across the country if you look for instance at the and most people know of Bollywood in the movie industry which today is like a multi-billion dollar industry but even up to a few decades ago some of the greatest lyricists for instance or dialogue writers were all very powerfully influenced by leftist ideology and many of the movies had it so there is of course a very grand culture of intervention in the cultural sphere which I think is very important for the left throughout the world as we keep continuing and which is why red books days in some ways it's such a simple yet elegant and powerful concept the idea that on one day the idea of a red book itself which crystalizes so much of what we think and what Laura and Francisca were talking about as well my red book actually is something that I first read let me see that would be about five to seven years a bit late maybe but five to seven years ago I stayed in the habit of reading it until every year until very recently because of like we just said the responsibilities of work sometimes just over and new but it's basically ten days that shook the world by John Reid and this has been a book which from the first I mean I heard about it a lot much before I read it but nothing really prepares you for reading that book because it is on the one hand of course a great work of history it's a great work of political science maybe it's also a great work of journalism because what you actually see is the nuts and bolts of a revolution so to speak, revolution as a moving because you read about say Russian revolution history you talk about you read about Lenin and the Bolsheviks and all that in your history textbooks but reading John Reid completely changes what you know to think about the revolution because it shows the sheer the massive participation of the people of Russia in this process about how it was not it was a bottoms up process in its own way the sheer number of people across the country various interests, various thought processes people you know various levels of access to information all coming together at some point in those fateful days of 1917 to create such a historic process the impact of which continues to this day and it's such a beautiful book because a lot of it is just straightforward reporting there's no and John Reid doesn't spend too much time theorizing or speculating it's just him being at various places and writing what the people are saying the fierce urgency that is there in those books it's almost like a thriller because there's so much tension reading that book because although you know what happened but nonetheless while reading that book you feel the kind of tension that the people in Petrograd in 1917 experiences they wondered you know what are you know you're making history right now it's a difficult process it's not an easy process it's full of tension you're wracked by thoughts of what happens if you moved one day too fast so all that suspense all those passionate you know declarations and one of the most beautiful things again about that book is the fact that it shows how I think you know there was this there was this flowering of popular participation an entire populace which had been suppressed by the Xarist regime and even later by the collaborators who assumed power after February 2017 this massive flowering of you know peoples the peoples will so to speak in the form of trade unions in the form of popular newspapers in the form of meetings he talks again and again about how it was just people gathering everywhere again and again and there's this brilliant line which you know I read a long time ago it struck me but nowadays while we talk about protests taking place across the world it keeps coming back to me which is that in the relations of a weak government and a rebellious people there comes a time when every act of the authorities exasperates the masses and every refusal to act excites their contempt and this is exactly what you see and the brilliant line by Jaudhry exactly what you see in a place maybe like Sudan in so many of the struggles in for instance Colombia in Chile where we saw the struggle of the farmers movement in India and this exactly is that sentiment that will so Jaudhry that's amazingly you know crisp lines also which really conveyed the humanity of the revolution the smallest details of it as much as the larger process of it and I think that's really something we've been talking about a lot the importance of talking about those processes so that is my red book of the day or for the year. That's amazing and I would like to say that what you said about John Reid so important leftward books didn't edition of 10 days that shook the world and you know we were debating inside the office who should we ask to write the introductory you know like the introduction and everybody immediately agreed it has to be peace signer we need a journalist to write the introduction to John Reid's book I didn't want a long involved thing about Soviet history and what happened to the Soviet Union and you know blah blah blah you know how those things can go I wanted something where the energy of John Reid could be replicated and wow sign art really delivered red books date 2022 a day of celebration a day of hope these are the words for us what are we celebrating we're celebrating life you know that's what we're celebrating I mean socialism is actually just a synonym for humanity it's nothing other than that we want to realize humanity in the world we celebrate life and you know what Nithish said earlier so important because today comrade Punul Haridas was killed in Kunur by the fascistic forces in India Punul Haridas was a fisherman party member of the communist party of India Marxist a person who also celebrated life this is a celebration of that side of history on the other side it's also about hope because it's not enough to just celebrate life we have to hope for something and you know I'd said that that you know humanity and socialism these are synonyms but we have to get there they don't just come from you know the sky we have to get there every red books I think of how lucky I was as a young boy in West Bengal to have had access to used books on the footpaths of my city where footpath sellers would sell us all kinds of stuff and I must say I read some real garbage but I was also really really grateful to the Soviet Union because without the Soviet Union I would have not I was a terrible student in school but I would not have read anything and I mean to close out our show I just want to reach behind me if that's okay guys because I want to bring this book which you know I bought for I don't know must have been about two rupees this is Marx's Capital I bought this book on the 14th of March 1981 I must say I was only about 14 years old and I don't know if I even knew I don't think I read this book for years after that but I bought this book because I went with my radical friends and they were like oh you should buy these and I bought Tolstoy which I really love Tolstoy and I bought this these three volumes thank God for the Soviet Union because the Soviets produced these books this is from progress publishers at prices that we could afford and we children in places like Calcutta India in West Bengal we got access to books that we would never have seen never have seen and every red books day I want to get my cap to the Soviet people for allowing some of their precious social wealth to go towards subsidizing a book publishing to let illiterate children like myself you know confront these great books and become part of this great journey of bringing you know humanity onto the planet are we going to be back on Friday this show is called give the people what they want today was a really special edition I think I'm not sure whether this was Prashant's idea or Zoe's idea I think it might have been Prashant's idea just casually at the end of our show on Friday said should we do a special on Monday for Red Books Day thanks a lot Prashant for that I think we should do some more of these specials every once in a while but you know this is not what we really do we'll be back with you on Friday at the exact correct time which you know because you're there and I must say Prashant Zoe I'm disappointed the selfie game has really dropped off I'm looking forward to some selfies perhaps selfies of this show you watching this show with your Red Book with your Red Book it's a triple selfie do a selfie watching this show holding your favourite Red Book yeah that's what we're asking those of you who are here to do alright see you on Friday sayonara