 Say hello and smile and say make no not smile. Actually, they will say hello it's a little bit different in my region because it's a lot of Swedish speaking people so as dry but They they will say hello and then ask for your Payment method and that's about it. That's about it. But if you have a 15-month-old next year going hey Oh, sorry sorry Tom you weren't paying attention. He doesn't go. Hey, he goes. Hey I got it wrong. I was paying There's just a language I don't know I'm not big on shit chat with strangers unless it's something Momentous like if you're just trying to pass the time and someone wants to Benjy. It's like no Well in the u.s. It's very weird because the the the people at the store don't just say hello and smile and wish you a good day They like ask Questions and Of them do that right majority of clerks are fine not talking to me Maybe I think maybe also if you've got a French accent They're more likely to find out what's going on What do you mean French accent my my I don't have an accent my English is Do your American accent and see if they still want to talk to I'm walking here. Do you have one? I've never heard the Patrick American accent. I Don't and I'm not putting you on the spot, but I would like to know I'm always talking No, no don't waste it now make it a doesn't have much of a make make it a level make it a He has a much of an accent. Yes, he does Nobody would ever be like he seems American. No, but I mean like you can he's very intelligible It's not like a heavy. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, not heavy But just you can you can see you can but would you guess where we're I'm from. Yeah, I would what? But I also like I've been studying I demand the recounts. We would guess you're from Maine. I Would have guessed France because like next to revision three was that a telly a that French like oh, I Listen if you want me to take a French accent I can yeah You're talking about yeah Okay, but I mean you can back off of it, but it's not gone Which is a good thing by the way, I think your accent is great But I take offense to the idea that I don't have a perfectly Discrete and not discreet, but he's worked so hard. Yes I've worked so hard by listening to many different podcasts and watching TV shows Just like Scott Johnson. Oh my god, please. No Patrick Beja all-american boy No, I'm not saying I sound American. Although I mean you don't but I mean you're you're I mean Yes Here's how we settle this let's do 30 minutes of technology talk and at the end of it the audience can decide All right We need a Blind study. All right, let's we can do all right Close your eyes. Okay, then Sarah if you could read line three today, that would be lovely. I can't and and pay attention It's slightly different. Oh, I put it in all caps so that you wouldn't get to them. Yep and three two Mike and has supported independent tech news directly for about one day Be like Mike and become a DTNS member at patreon.com slash DTNS This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday April 16th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and from the blazing hot countryside of Finland. I'm Patrick Beja and Overcast skies from rat. I'm the shows producer Roger and Roger Chang with the weather We are going to talk about the PlayStation 5 question mark a wired interview with a Sony employee about what's coming next for a PlayStation Console that is coming Patrick will keep us up to date on that. Let's start with a few tech things you should know We may have peace in our time folks This is a big one Apple and Qualcomm have agreed to settle all all ongoing lawsuits Apple will pay Qualcomm an undisclosed amount and enter into a six-year global patent licensing agreement with an option to extend For another two years Qualcomm will also supply parts to Apple for several years Also known as Apple needs 5g chips Microsoft announced its e3 event will take place on Sunday June 9 at 4 p.m. Eastern 1 p.m. Pacific It will be streamed on Microsoft's mixer as well as other platforms. It's gonna be big They keep saying that as if they wouldn't make it big Anyway, HTC told xda developers that its apps disappeared from the Google Play Store Not because they're giving up or going home or not making phones anymore But because those apps did not meet requirements after a recent change in Google Play Store policy HTC's since home launcher mail and re-camera apps have all returned to the store and HTC says all the other apps that disappeared will return At the end of this month at the latest A teaser on store.google.com now says on May 7th meet a new hero Which then links to a page that says help us on the way on May 7th Something big is coming to the pixel universe with a link to an Avengers endgame tie-in promotion The Google IO opening keynote takes place on May 7th. I wonder what they have up there What a move getting getting Disney to sponsor the teas for your phone announcement Well, they get they got my attention Yeah, okay, that's fair enough. I kind of assume the pixel would be announced May 7th But now we're pretty sure about it. Let's talk a little more about something that might be coming in the Apple display universe Indeed yesterday, we pass along some source info from 9 to 5 Mac about upcoming iOS 13 features Well sources also tell 9 to 5 Mac that Apple is working on new feature for Mac OS 10.15 that lets users send any window of any app to an external display Including an iPad the feature is reportedly being called sidecar internally and will feature a new menu that has options for making the Window full screen tilling and moving to external external displays iPads that support Apple Pencil can be drawn on when used as an external display Well, that part is cool, you know, but my initial reaction is like, okay Well, I don't know you kind of like mirror your displays or work them out Otherwise, I'm I'm using an external display with a MacBook right now but Having an iPad be an external display That could be moved to in the same way that I'm using a regular monitor for very cool I don't currently have an iPad that supports Apple Pencil, but Especially with video editing and just I don't know miscellaneous stuff. I can really see that being a great extra monitor Yeah, if anybody who's used the Luna display, which 9 to 5 Mac mentions Probably knows the advantages of this the Luna displays a little device that yeah You can mirror any display to an iPad over Wi-Fi, but the Luna display takes advantage of some of the benefits of directly tying into the GPU And this would be Apple formalizing that saying well, let's just make that happen without you having to use a Intermediary device which I suppose is bad for Luna display sending selling their devices if this comes But would make it so that there is another reason to have an iPad and use it in your work setup And if you can use the pencil on The Window that is actually a macOS window I guess it's using functionality that already exists with Waycom and stuff like that, but I wonder how what it means for the interaction between macOS and iOS on that level It kind of puts iPad UI elements not you elements, but interaction elements on macOS I wonder if if something will be working weirdly there. I think it probably just used the input Info and and send it sure, but yes Security researcher Armin Sebastian posted Monday that he discovered an exploit in version 3.2 of ad block plus filter system Also used an ad block and you block. They're similar under certain conditions arbitrary code could be injected into a rewrite filter meant to block circumvention Sebastian suggested that websites eliminate server-side open redirects or create white lists and encourages users to switch to you block origin Which does not support the rewrite filter option ad block is saying that it takes us seriously and is evaluating the risk to its customers Sebastian also says that rewrite filters should be dropped because quote. It's always possible to abuse the feature Yeah, this is one of those situations where ad block is saying yeah We knew third parties might be able to take advantage of that We thought it was very unlikely, but we're gonna look at this closer and see if maybe we should get rid of it But we really like the rewrite feature. You know what? Anything that can allow code to be injected. I'm not gonna use so I don't use that look anyway But I certainly would not use ad block if they don't fix this Sebastian also said that he he submitted what he said was an issue to Google and Google said Well, it's actually a feature not a bug I wonder if they'll change their stance on this now that it's become a somewhat big story Yeah, the the server-side open redirects I can see reasons for a website to say, you know That's on ad block. They should fix how they take advantage of their legitimate reasons for us to have a server-side open redirect I also get why Sebastian says yeah, but it's fundamentally less secure That one that one. I'm willing to take more of a of a intermediate View on versus the ad box rewrite filters just aren't secure don't use them Hackaday.com has an excellent article about how 5g service could impact weather forecasting Let me explain if I may though you should read the full article for a better Understanding of this weather satellites use radiometers to measure microwave radiation Which among other things is used to measure the amount of water vapor you look for? Reflections or emissions of microwave radiation from water vapor to estimate how much of it is in the air That's one of the major factors in forecasting weather the 23.8 gigahertz spectrum is very useful for measuring water vapor and Also happens to be very close to where many 5g services will operate That could lead to faint water vapor signals being lost in a sea of 5g noise If 5g isn't kept narrowly within its band a lot of times spectrum is a little messy It's not as nice and neat as it looks on the map In fact direct TV broadcasts previously have shown up reflecting off water and swamping out other water vapor data so Removing water vapor data Could reduce forecast accuracy by 17% which could be significance 5g licensees are required to limit their out-of-band emissions But the frequencies are so close nobody can be certain how much error there may be and once 5g services are up and running companies may be Reluctant to want to adjust if there's no immediate harm that they can see Which there wouldn't be like any particular forecast isn't going to be provable to suffer But it would lower the accuracy of forecasts over time Great. Just what we need meteorology that works less well because of 5g I Mean 17% is it nothing but how I know that's not exactly what it was how it works one to one but It seems that meteorology has improved a lot in the past 20 years Does that mean that we would go back to the level of accuracy from you know three years ago? That would seem acceptable. I'm guessing. I'm also guessing there are some I yes It's not how it works, but yeah I mean the thing is like yeah Weather forecast have gotten more accurate over time because we've had more data and amongst that data is water Vaporn data, right water vapor data disappears. Well, they're gonna be less accurate hackaday points out a demonstration of what The forecasted path of hurricane Sandy would have been without the access to the water Okay, so this is a good. This is a good example Yeah, that would actually it would it would come you know today my weather forecast I asked my Assistant and she was like 40% chance of rain didn't rain, but you know 40% Okay, you know it's like whatever but if it but if it had to do with a natural disaster Then that is actually something that would factor into this in a in a much bigger way. Yeah, that's that's where I was going I think there are some uses that are not just should I get an umbrella? But it could actually have scientific important scientific ramifications And it's the kind of thing that a carrier can point out and go well show me where the harm was today because you know Okay, so you're 60% chance of rain wasn't exactly accurate. So what why should I have to fine-tune my 5g? I don't know Well a wired feature by Nicholas Thompson and Fred Vogelstein Describes the past 15 months at Facebook among the revelations are the are that Instagram co-founders Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger didn't agree on the app's future and left Facebook in September because of that Supposedly Zuckerberg pulled out many of the ways Facebook sent traffic to Instagram like ads and link backs in order to keep people inside the quote blue app as they call it Systrom and Krieger also supposedly objected to hamburger menus unfolding icons and other design and functionality issues No one no one likes hamburger menus Everyone hates them. I hate the hamburger menu so much. Well, I obviously this is not the most important I think it's because it's it's bad design because you just put an actual menu instead of designing Graphical UI and you hire it and it's just a text menu when I think that's bad design I'm not a designer, but that's how I understand it. I mean, what's funny about this is that well, it's not really funny But it's what what's interesting about it is that okay So apparently, you know, if if if the articles to be believed the way that it's laying out What the Instagram founders did is that Mark Zuckerberg was funneling traffic back into Facebook rather than giving it to Instagram even though Instagram has been The most successful app it's ever been and continues to grow at a rapid pace as far as at least Least users worldwide. So, you know, I'm not I'm not totally sure You know, how much that it was more of a it's the principle of what you're doing that we don't like and we're out of here And maybe just the fatigue of having worked at Facebook for some time now I mean, they you know Facebook acquired Instagram what in 2012 So it's you know, it's it's it's it's probably You know for as wealthy as you would be as an Instagram founder working under the Facebook umbrella The blue umbrella as it were for this long, you know to walk away I I don't know how mad you'd have to be or if you just kind of were ready to do it anyway Yeah, I'm sure that's part of it That's a really good thought which is you're you're probably half out the door already And if you're like well, look, I get that you want us to help bolster Facebook's traffic bleed But come on like that that's not satisfying for me. So yeah, I guess I'm gonna leave. Yeah Not go away mad. I'm just going away And I mad Motley crew I believe Waymo launched Waymo one the app for as Robo taxi service in Phoenix and this is interesting because It's on the google play store and it's finally public previously Waymo one and its companion app We're only available to people in its early writer program. We've talked about that in the past Waymo hasn't given specific numbers on who's using the now public service Says it's in the hundreds, but there are some limitations the app has a waitlist So if I download it and I'm in the phoenix area and I'm ready to go I after being accepted still go into Waymo's early writer program Then I moved into the public service if I I don't know act accordingly once in the public service. I can then invite other guests I can take photos of my ride and you know talk about the whole Experience publicly, which I'm sure a lot of people want to do but it is uh, it is a step forward for Waymo You know in the context of us talking last week about Ford saying Eh, this isn't happening as fast as we might have thought with uber pulling back for multiple reasons Waymo has sort of been a canary in the coal mine to say, okay is is our autonomous car is going to come as fast as we thought Uh, and I'm not sure how to interpret this because on the one hand it's making an app public Which is a forward step on the other hand. It's just making an app public it's not in any way changing the A number of writers in the public program are expanding the service area or anything like that I think you know, it's definitely not Fully launched program But over the past I would say a couple of years We've had to what with Waymo, especially it was always like Sure, it's autonomous cars, but it's an agated community or but it's limited to beta testers But it has it and as things have evolved I apologize in advance for this terrible pun, but we've had less and less butts Which it's not really a pun, but it says but so it's funny So we've had less and less butts and at this point there are still a few caveats, but It's it's still progressing. I think it's a sign of progress. Even if it's slow, it's significant because Many others seem to seem to not be progressing Yeah tvz gun in our chat And I know for a fact he lives in this part of arizona says I live in the part of phoenix where they've done the waymo testing and those vans are everywhere around my town. So They certainly are present on the roads out there in arizona Well, folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com Rich sarah and myself once a day give you a five-minute update. Keep you up to date Okay, sony system architect mark cherry confirmed to wired that a new playstation console is coming And he even detailed some of the things that are in it. Patrick. Tell us about it Yes, so map mark cerney is the Essentially the the hardware architect for the playstation 4 which is the most successful console this generation It it wasn't interesting timing for the announcement because because they didn't give anything that is Incredibly unexpected on the contrary most of the things they're talking about are quite expected But it's also at a time when it's not going to make a big splash So it seems to me like they're getting some stuff out of the way For whenever which is probably going to be in a long time They're going to announce the more interesting new and different things So I think there are three different areas in which we can summarize their announcement the functionalities are backwards compatibility with the playstation 4 which was expected but still good to hear and the playstation vr meaning your existing vr headset for playstation will be usable on the new hardware and potentially Get kind of improved functionality because the computing power of the new device is going to be higher So that's interesting. It will support a 8k. So that's really future proofing But it will run in 4k for the foreseeable future and it will still have physical media So you will still be able to use discs In on that device again, not very surprising. Yeah, they they didn't make it clear whether it would be Blu-ray or or some advanced version of blu-ray or anything But but honestly, that's you know devil's in the details there I think most people were just concerned Am I going to be able to go buy physical media and play my games because that's the way I prefer to We've heard from a lot of those sorts of people So that's good news uh that they'll be able to and if it's backwards compatible presumably It'll be backwards compatible to handling the current discs that you have I find the backward compatibility part of this the most fascinating because it does imply to me that Even though they're going to call this something else It really is just an evolution of the playstation 4 They're not doing such a a change of architecture and operating system that they have to port games over It's it's following it feels a little more like a pc evolution of like hey, it's still a computer It can still run stuff. Uh, so it should be able to run your old games And they've been bit by a specific architecture in previous generations playstation 2 and 3 especially had very complicated architecture and hurt the backwards compatibility We knew it was going to happen for both the xbox one and the playstation 4 because they shifted to very PC-like architectures. So it's not very surprising on that front um I was just gonna make a Comment about ak2 because I know a lot of people will just dismiss that as like who cares We don't even have ak TVs, but eventually you will so that's to me That's a sign that they're forward thinking although he probably mentions it in this unit in this interview to sound impressive to people Yes, and no, I mean these These devices usually have a lifetime of about 10 years from launch to retirement And it's not going to launch this year. So it will probably still be around in in 2030 And when you look at it like that, you're probably going to be happy that it already is 8k compatible. Yeah The internals are also somewhat expected amd custom chip with a ryzen CPU and navi GPU which is capable of ray tracing that latest graphics technology that nvidia introduced with the rtx series of graphics cards The 3d audio is a is a thing they pushed really hard. So he talked about it as a big evolution That we hadn't seen in previous generation the way wire describes it is as Being able to emulate presence. So that seems like a significant evolution of the 3d capabilities of audio But the thing they're pushing the most is a really fast ssd Which will decrease load times by a significant amount The example the example they give in spider-man decreases a specific load time from 15 seconds to less than a second So it's not just your run of the mill normal ssd. It is significantly faster, but he also Implies that it could create Different design opportunities because you don't need to load any you don't need to account for the time to load anything into The memory which could be interesting and could fizzle out Yeah, I honestly the solid state drive stuff is the most impressive as far as changing the performance It's the least interesting to me though because i'm like, yeah, of course You should do that that is absolutely why would you not do that? the 3d audio is Is befuddling to me uh Only because i'm not quite sure what it is but the way it's described in this interview makes it sound pretty great You know, I I sorry to interrupt you tom. I have the same question If i'm wearing headphones and there is 3d audio or at least something that seems that way. Okay, that sounds cool. Got it. You know instead of stereo there's there's you know, but Would it apply to like a 7.1 surround sound system if I had that anyway? So I think the way they this is pure speculation on my part, but I think what they're uh implying by this is having a more powerful 3d modeled audio systems Engines within the game that won't need to translate to you know, uh standard 7.1 But will actually position the audio more precisely in the 3d world with Yeah, with with with more simplistic speaker setups I I think so but also the they they specify that it will to get the ideal Performance in that regard you will need a headset and that's how it will shine the most So I yeah, I still have questions about that as well Um, I do want to mention about the SSD that they acknowledge you can already put an ssd drive an ssd in your existing uh console today and they're saying That that gives you slightly faster load times maybe a third of what exists now What they're talking about for this next generation console will be dramatically faster to the point that it impacts development So that's where it's happening because they have a better driver for it then because they'll probably just move to an mvme Exactly structure and set up. So one of the bottlenecks with any pc is the sata a bus I mean, what's what's really interesting for me this whole this whole thing is how you know they're really trying to kind of Emphasize the technological prowess and kind of getting ahead of the curve because I think they want to Really entice people who might be having second thoughts as other companies are kind of pushing the great game streaming Aspect right because you can't do things like ak on games You can't do the you know The ideally the the level of audio fidelity that they're suggesting With game streaming just yet. So I think they're trying to basically position it as a way like yeah You've heard about game streaming, but we have a system that's going to be so compelling That you will maintain if not, you know, put a pre order You're going to maintain interest in your eyeballs for the foreseeable You know year to come to kind of slowly build up interest because I you know, I one one of the things that I noticed with this entire layout is it's It's a lot of technical specs but really little on on actual game development, which is you know typical But it's it just seems like a giant tease like, you know, we want to get your attention Now that's what happens when you leak it photo wired in an exclusive interview Well, but but it definitely is It definitely is a tease. There's no hugely substantial pieces of information They do say it's not going to be out this year. So probably 2020 as we had guessed and they're not discussing cloud gaming I Don't think, uh, you know what we're seeing here means there's not going to be cloud gaming I think it's coming but they're saving those announcements for later Maybe even a playstation vr2 And I don't think they're going to be able to avoid Cloud gaming being an important part of that new generation Of course, they already have playstation now and they're saying, you know, we're pioneers in that area We're very committed blah blah blah I think they're going to make it just as essential to the new generation as microsoft Is going to is already doing with xcloud. So I I wouldn't take this to mean they're Making this better than cloud streaming Because I think there's going to be parity between the two if you can have Significantly more powerful 3d audio in the home local rendering machine I think they have to make it equivalent in cloud streaming Although I think roger's got a good point that to justify buying a console instead of just gaming on whatever machine you have lying around Do you want to make that machine sexy with lots of specs? Yes, but if they do end up going with cloud streaming, that's my speculation You wouldn't need to buy the console. Um, if you if you don't want to I don't think you get the 8k from the cloud streaming That that that's where I totally sure But when you do get to 8k tv, maybe by then you will be able to I don't know we're speculating. I need more bandwidth too Thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit lots of gaming stories there as well as others You can submit your own stories and vote on others at daily tech news show dot reddit.com We're also on facebook got a group in fact facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Let's check out the mailbag. Let's do it. Gabor who says he's writing in from the Filthy shores of the danube river I always thought it was blue Gabor says I have an echo a logitech harmony some wireless switches and a two-year-old boy. He's also wireless since birth We're talking about you know the idea of smart assistance that was our topic of our conversation Yesterday. Gabor says when he was about six months old he used to scream a lot after his bath Nothing new here some music quickly cheered him up. However, I had hard times handling my phone without any free hands Alex say could give me a helping hand the favorite is still the dead south and hell I'll be in good company kind of look up that song as soon as the show is over combined with the logitech harmony It's very easy to mute or switch off the tv when something inappropriate is coming up or we just need a calmer environment It served as a simple toy too as my son loved pushing all the shiny buttons I'm aware of the risks, but they're in balance with the benefits for now And then we got a behind-the-scenes email right after that from him that says I hope my previous email has made sense. I was pushed pulled dragged swung screamed upon and even climbed on In an effort to turn my full attention towards my beloved son But I guess what I wanted to point out is the parents often have a hand too few Uh, and yeah, you know what there's a new logitech harmony model out that has amazon voice services built in that just came out today Patrick I I assume you can you can relate Uh, actually For some of it, but I also don't use any voice assistants. I find them completely Baffling in what I would have a use for them Um, including after reading gabor's fantastic email. So I guess my answer is I don't really relate Well, I mean you relate to probably a kid giving you Pushing pulling dragging Yeah Chewed up every single remote. He could lay his hands on so that was another good reason to have voice I mean your son and my dog should go bowling Uh, well, thanks to everybody who who sends us feedback every day You make our days and also thanks to patrick beijar for being here today. 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You can tell I can tell you what I can't get is Out of here to get some sleep so I can be ready for the pushing pulling screaming and all the other things Excellent are in store for me. Well, uh tell your lovely fans Hello from all of us Uh, I will All right, I love you all talk to you We don't have playstation 5 is no risk our isc. Ha ha ha don't have a lot of playstation 5 notes titles Uh, oh face field Uh, how about speculation on playstation 5? I like that. How about playstation 5 speculation Okay, wait with a hyphen Yeah Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I'll be that way we can be like a sports drink In what way? I don't get it. I don't know. Oh, no. I thought you said the hyphen between the five. So we would be the s No, no, no Respect speculation because it's speculation on specs um speaking of energy drinks um a friend of mine alerted me to a new gatorade sub brand called gatorade flow Oh, that doesn't sound Oh, I know sounds like a fiber beverage out through the focus group Wait, I don't know and the funny thing is that like, okay, so gatorade lemon lime. Some people don't like that flavor That's the one that I like the most But it's yellow, right? Well, the gator the gatorade flow version of this is a little bit more urinesque Not gonna lie It's got a little orange tinge to it and it's Disconcerting I'm tell no, I'm serious. You have to look it up and I was sort of like It's it's almost like when like a detergent will be like extra strength where you're like Gatorade flow because the other gatorade doesn't float like what what is that? What is that about all kinds of all kinds of I know but it's And you know like I get that gatorade rain It's fresh sure Gatorade flow does not sound good I'm okay. I've please stop saying that sounds like something they give you in the hospital There are a lot of yeah, like they're just a lot of things where your mind goes we're like No, no, and we won't yeah, um, just yeah, just uh, I don't know Gatorade rain to wash myself clean I never understood all the other gatorade ice. I'm literally gonna put myself on iced. Yeah over this Yeah, no, it's it's I know it's weird. I don't know where it came from. I somebody anybody who knows anything about What's going on at gatorade? the actual, um Is this the ad Lynn Pepco What is Lynn Pepco? Let me find out what Lynn Pepco is. It's a vendor. Okay. It's a vendor um distributor This new product was created to deliver gtq performance with a rush of full flavor Followed by a smooth finish that improved drinkability Made with natural flavors the light and translucent color has a sweet taste with no aftertaste delivering all the gtq performance benefits Well, sounds like you're describing pe but okay, what's gtq? Right like what is that? Gatorade Oh Sorry, I didn't realize you were supposed to know that acronym I did not know that off the top of my head. That was some sort of dna combination that you're adjusting Also, anytime anyone says natural flavors without describing them Yeah, I mean, you know reduce sweat you lose more than water says the amazon copy for this Good ol gatorade flow Oh Yeah, no, I um I I had a spirited discussion with this about this with with the said friend That that had sent me the photo because he was just like this seems like something that would upset you sarah And i'm like indeed it does but um, but afterwards A third friend chimed in and she was like, yeah, it's kind of like gatorade's vitamin water. It's like less sodium Rich and more just kind of watered down and they're just trying to sell it so So But now you know first of all, I prefer pokari sweat, which is the actual name of a gatorade like drink in japan Because at least it's like you sweat and you replace it by drinking this like it, you know, I get that it's not an appetizing name, but Right. It's yeah, it is it is a tool for your body now. 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You should subscribe to our show Have such a good day, but short story There was a whole buzz feed article and you know buzz feed kind of does this You know as rule, you know, they try to figure out like what upsets people for no reason and they make articles about them But it was it was a whole Just hundreds of people fighting with each other on twitter about what Order you put clothes on now your shoes are last. Yes, but it's sort of like do underwear and socks go first Do you put pants on before socks do socks go last right before shoes? What about the t-shirt where it goes first before the pants? But then what's next is it socks or pants? What comes out exactly? It's like, okay You know, you you have you have six articles of clothing that have to go on your body before you leave the house Like is there an order that they go in and is there an order that would be unacceptable to you? To me personally, I'm like no order is unacceptable as long as they all get there I don't care. I've never once thought about pants before socks I don't have a problem and I'm sure at occasionally I've put on socks before the pants and if if roger says that he's someone who puts the socks on before the pants I don't I am that's fine. There's nothing I put the socks on after because I feel like it's easier to get the pants on Especially if you have like thick wool socks in the winter or something And so that makes sense to me I don't understand people getting angry about the idea of putting socks on after because that seems more Logical to me because people want to be invested in the debate Well, it's it's also it's sort of like I don't know. I mean silly stuff like crunchy peanut butter versus smooth I really don't care what anybody eats, but I'm crunchy all the way. I'm not gonna eat smooth peanut butter. It's beneath me Well, fine, and you can have all of the smooth that you want But you know, it's one of those things where I'm like, no, I just have I have an opinion and it won't deviate And everyone else is wrong So socks before pants or vice versa Has has has struck a nerve on the internet turns out I mean I'm glad roger that you uh, representing the side of the issue. Um, curious what you're reasoning for socks before pants is or trousers for those in the audience from the It's typically it's because I I For some reason I always just go through and pick socks first Like I already I you know, like I have I have Six pairs of pants, but I only wear one, but I go through like three pairs of socks maybe in like a day For some reason. Yeah Really? Yeah, so I have my indoor house socks. Okay Yeah, like because I only You're using a slippers basically. Yeah, they're around the house. Yeah, because my daughter Tends to walk and eat around the house Why why you put those on before why this means you should put them on before the so so if I put socks on If I socks already I'll take them off and I'll immediately put on ones that I'm gonna wear outside And then I'll take I'll take whatever like sweatshorts pajamas. I'm wearing take them off and then I'll put my pants on Does it make sense? Oh, I think what's fundamentally confusing me is you have a different set of pants for indoors and outdoors. Yes Well, I mean I do too. That's the meaning of indoor pants I don't know. I don't although I wear indoor pants outside all the time. Like, okay. Hmm. So So, I mean, do you have like I'm like, okay Why you need to put the socks on first Because you're saying what if you already have pants that you're not changing on and you want to change to your outdoor socks Well, then I would just change socks But like in the beginning of the day, that's not the case But in the beginning of the day, you're putting on your indoor pants. So you put your indoor socks on I already have my pants. I either leave my jammies on or I'm wearing shorts and I don't change it because I go to sleep Okay, here's here's the way that I see this and again, I will preface this by saying I don't care what order anything goes in Don't care but if you think of it in terms of Layers, right like tom said underwear goes first. It's got to go underneath something So you got your underwear however many The articles of underwear you're wearing. Okay, then you do like t-shirt pants but The socks going first are good because the socks will never be over the pants Well, it's that but also Depending on the pants or the socks the combination It's easier. Like for example, if I'm wearing like, um, our guile socks that are kind of stretchy and long It's easier to pull them up Before I have the pants going. Yeah. That is the first reason I can fully understand and get behind. Yeah I absolutely agree with that. Yeah If you have long socks and I don't wear long socks that often so that's why I don't run into this But yeah, that makes that makes perfect. But if I yeah, you know, and you know Half my socks are long socks. They're like calf length or I never wear calf-length socks. Boom. Boom Half-length socks. What are you doing? I mean I bought a lot of there was a year. I bought a lot of socks for some reason No, I mean there's nothing wrong with them But I'm like, aren't isn't it just too warm and don't they like kind of like fall down a lot and well See you have to get the ones with the nylon or the spandex and the elasticity and they stay It's not like the old style where they would break in the wash and then they would always slide down your feet Yeah, like it's like a like a compression sock even No, it's gonna stick I feel weird wearing pajamas outside of my bedroom So I generally put on the clothing that I'm going to wear outside in the morning And I I spend the entire day for the most part in them Oh, no, I always wear jammies until I go. It's okay. I was born in the 1800s and so I You're both right But like there's nothing there's nothing weird about being like no one sees me I'm still my pajamas and there's nothing wrong about you know, someone being like I try not to go outside in my indoor clothes because You know where I live actually we're in the entire San Fernando There's a lot of dust in the air, especially in the summer. I don't want that on my clothes and then Falling asleep Before dinner, obviously I changed into my dinner clothes Even before I go through So if I take out the trash, I will change my clothes and go dump trash and then I'll change back out of them I have occasionally taken uh, especially now that I live in a place where the trash cans aren't out on the sidewalk In front of the house. They're you know, they're along the side where no one could see me I've gone out of my pajamas to dump some trash a couple of times I also feel like and it depends on your wardrobe, but for me, it's like the difference between pajamas and like yoga wear is very Slim You know, like it's comfortable. It's stretchy I would call them my indoor pants, but I mean I would walk to the coffee shop No problem and look normal like I'm I wouldn't try to go jogging in the grocery store in them I would do that. I I would go anywhere almost I mean, maybe you know, unless it was like wearing shoes indoors like that There's a point where I don't want to bring the outside into my house, especially the dirt and whatever The other thing is whatever I have Where any pants I wear needs to have pockets if I go outside so I can have my wall my keys on my phone Exactly. 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