 This is JSA TV the newsroom for tech and telecom professionals. I'm Dean Perine vice president at JSA and welcome to JSA TV Today we're getting to know a little bit more about data vision and with us in the virtual studio. We have data visions COO mr. Mark Abilafia Mark welcome to JSA TV. Thank you Dean. Great to be here Outstanding so we're gonna jump right in here mark for our viewers that don't already know Why don't you tell us a little bit about data vision? Sure love to so data vision is a network engineering and consulting firm We're involved in the architecture and implementation of software-defined networking and network functions virtualization along with other solutions that are related to things such as SD-WAN and BSS OSS integration we're headquartered in New Jersey. We've got folks across the United States in Canada and Basically, we help our clients to build their networks and help develop the software and integrate it to make it all work together with them Outstanding mark. Thank you very much. Okay, so I know and I think that That we you announced you made had a bit of a soft announcement about a recent partnership that partnership being with 128 technology now this partnership allows you you folks to offer additional solutions such as SD-WAN as you mentioned Secure cloud interconnect among other things. So why don't you tell our viewers a bit more about that partnership? Sure love to so 128 technology is a relatively young company. They've been around two or three years and They have developed a really interesting way to do SD-WAN amongst other methods of routing So not only we partnered with 128 But we also have a couple of different partnerships of other SD-WAN vendors to fill out the portfolio But something interesting about 128 caught our attention and that is the actual way that they implement software-defined WAN solutions and that is something that realizes a what they call a zero trust connectivity paradigm or security paradigm and What they do here is base that connectivity on sessions rather than just an encrypted VPN So what they do is they start out with this assumption that nothing is secure on the network And using a session-based routing protocol of their own design That actually provides the security for folks using the network. So that's something we're really excited about obviously They are as well and as a company they've gained some really great traction in the marketplace So when we combine that solution with some of our other software-based Orchestration solutions, it's a really interesting way to put together not only the SD-WAN overlay that a lot of folks Are using but also an ability to orchestrate that with existing network infrastructure whether you're a telco provider or a large enterprise looking to get into SD-WAN so that whole particular method of routing is something that is I'd like to say revolutionary But it's more evolutionary in the way people are approaching things these days. So we're excited to bring that into the portfolio Outstanding okay, so I'm gonna go off a script because you started the conversation going this way You and I before we before we started recording. We're talking a little bit about SDN and NFV and about how just a few years ago It was a science experiment and now it's a real living breathing thing and folks like data vision are Actually deploying and implementing these these technologies. So now that it's a real living thing Why don't you tell our viewers a little bit about where it's actually going from here? sure so It's That's a pretty broad question. So I'll try to be as specific as possible So every major telco Has adopted different forms of software to find networking or network functions virtualization All the tier one players have programs in place where they've either operationalized it such as AT&T and Verizon and Century Link Lots of folks and European theater have done it as well Telefonica Telecom Italia etc You know, there's a lot of leadership out there already in SDN slash NFV Operationalizing it has been a great challenge because you now have to graft all this into your existing BSS OSS systems But the other piece of it is how do you actually provide services at the edge or on the customer prem? and the place where a lot of this NFV has been going to is the universal CPE or customer-prem equipment and the Revolution in white box technology meaning it used to be very expensive to put a router on every site obviously people are looking at arm or x86 based white boxes on which to plant these Network functions and that's driving down the cost to deploy all this hardware But also it's allowing a huge amount of flexibility in what kind of services you can now offer to a particular customer all embedded in software and where this is all headed or where it is heading or where it's arrived in certain places is That I can now make a change to a service at a customer Literally in minutes or hours versus the weeks and months that it typically used to take back in the bed all days Three or four years ago. So that's kind of where it's been and where it is heading to You know other technologies that folks are looking at are things such as edge computing More the SD when that we spoke up and things of that nature So you can see a lot more change other than just the the marquee title of SDN and at big Awesome. Okay, so you brought up edge computing. I know that that is something that data vision is well-versed in Why don't you tell our our viewers a bit more about edge computing and kind of how it fits into the larger? Product suite that you folks have sure so with respect to edge computing There are lots of people's definitions of this and from where we sit There are I would say one or two well more like two ways that that we consider what what edge computing is the first is if you look at What the traditional content distribution network looks like you were looking at a number of servers and lots of storage Pushed out as far to the network edge as possible in different co-locations Different data centers in high-density metropolitan areas or basically where the content was consumed or as close to it as possible So edge computing Helps with that particular use case in that instead of just streaming video from a central location You know how those compute resources and a lot of the intelligence pushed further out in the edge So when it comes to edge computing, that's one area that folks are looking at and what some folks depending on where they sit Whether it's a data center operator or someone of that nature would consider what edge computing is the second paradigm of edge computing which I think is going to eclipse that in about a year and a half plus as things accelerate in 5g deployment is in the fiber densification trends that you're seeing in places like New York and Boston and all the larger cities where Yes, there's fiber, but it's nowhere near at the density That is needed for the kinds of services that 5g is going to offer Therefore you have folks who are laying a tremendous amount of fiber in these metro areas but in order for applications and The actual 5g services to work properly. You cannot you can no longer have all of your compute Back in a data center Even if it's two or three in so in a place like Manhattan where you've already got a high level of fiber density That still isn't even enough to accommodate what's coming in 5g So you have the density that's not quite there yet and there are plenty of folks who are doing that But you also have the compute power in order to accommodate the performance of the applications that are going to be riding on 5g Therefore the combination of fiber densification and the ability to push that compute resource out as far to the edge as possible Perhaps even to the street corner level is what's going to make 5g fly So the ability to create these edge computing mini data centers is what's going to help realize that 5g Application everywhere of vision and there's a whole the hour of you know JSA TV interviewing about what applications 5g can bring you But that's the the quick and dirty answer for you know, what else edge computing can do for you. So that's what I've got Outstanding honestly, I feel like we probably could be talking all afternoon at this at this rate To pull on that sweater Yeah, no, absolutely. Absolutely. This was this was brilliant. Thank you very very much for being here For folks who want to learn more about SDN and NFV and edge computing and data vision. Where should they go? They should go to data vision dash ink dot com data vision dash I am see calm Or they can simply email us at info at data vision dash ink calm Or if you're going to be in sunny Miami, or at least we hope it'll be sunny on January 29th through 31st will be at Metro connect and we've got a small seating area right outside the main conference room there If you want to swing by and chat for a couple minutes, I'll be there And I'm happy to talk to you about you know some of our reference work that we've done and for whom we've done it And see what we can do for you Awesome, I know I'm going to be there. So I'm looking forward to meeting you in person So thanks again very much Mark. We appreciate having you great. Thanks. Need pleasure be here You bet you bet and thank you viewers for watching JSA TV. We'll see you soon