 Let's get it. Big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga. Big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako. Walk on. Man, what's going on? Nothing. I'm down. Man, you know what we got near today? Yes, sir. This guy don't need no introduction, man. Hey, man. It's been trouble. The name Psycho's in a bit of psych. You really crazy? Nah, man. I just need to be chillin'. You know. Whatever. Who gave you that name? Psycho to me. Psycho. Chillin'. The name Psycho came from the streets, came from the block, came from, you know, the Greens Point area. Oh. That's not right. But what did you do to get that name? I mean, I just, if you ask me, I did it with others wouldn't, so you know what I'm saying? Good ass. I ain't gonna say too much. H-town, so Greens Point area? Yeah, Greens Point area. Let's get to it. Okay, so how, what was it like growing up in that area? I mean, I'm not even from that area. Okay, where are you from? That's just where I got the rap name from. I'm from Fifth Ward. Okay. Fifth Ward. Okay. That's even worse. Yeah, it's a lot worse. So, so. It's a lot worse than Greens Point. You know what? It's a song that I thought of, but you wasn't even born yet. You might have been. How old are you? I'm 29. Yeah. Yeah, you might know how you were. It's a Fifth Ward is a spot where niggas get shot. Yeah, nah, I wasn't born. Who said that? Who did? That was Ghetto Boys with a Bushwick bill. He ain't even, he from New York, but that's what he said. Because that's what J. Prince them had him say it. Nah, they got a lot of respect in the hood. Yeah. My great uncles and shit, you know what I'm saying? I grew up outside with him. Really? Yeah. Rap running my family. So, my uncles and shit was running with him. Wow. What's your uncle's name? Is he in the rap? I don't know his rap name. His name is Robert. Okay. His name is Robert Evans. Okay. He used to rap. He used to do all that shit. The turntables, like real live hip hop. You had to back to when it started. Yeah. Yeah. And he go back to like the real ghetto boys, from my understanding, like it was another ghetto boys. Okay. And he go back with them. Okay. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy, man. Like the history of Houston, man, you guys, man, legendary, you from a legendary place where people expect a lot when you say you're going to be a rapper. They not playing with that. Like niggas expecting something. They not even fit a ride with it if it ain't right. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. For real? It got to be right, don't it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. But go on. I know you. No, no, good. But so, okay. So you were raised with your mom and dad? Or are you the traditional black family? I'm going to call it like that now because majority of the people who sit right there. My dad been locked up since I was a baby. So yeah, it was just my mom. So when did he come out? How are you? Did he come out? When I think up to at least three years ago, he was home for at least 10 years. I met him because I tagged him in the Facebook post and he came to see about that shit. What did you tag? What? I just... I was being like the natural, upset son. You know, I said something and he came out of him. You know, he came out. He pulled up on me. And what did he say to you? We got drunk. He told me like, he told me, you know what I'm saying? Everything in his fault. You know what I'm saying? And how old were you at this time? This was like two years ago. Okay. So you were able to understand certain things? Yeah. So you asked your mom about it? Yeah. And she admitted to it? It's like... Yeah. You know how it is? Don't get in... Don't get in girls' business. You ain't going to get the truth when it goes so far back. Don't care a little truth anyway. They don't want to go too far back. But you know what I call that? I call that it's his truth and her truth. There's no lie in it. It's just that as you're grown now, you know that something can happen right now. But I perceive it a different way from how you perceive it. So I'm going to tell you a different way. Yeah. So it's not always that I'm lying or you're lying. It's just that we receive it in a different way. Yeah. But it wasn't even more so a lie. It was more so somebody withholding... Information. Yeah, information. Like, all this ain't even happened. Or this happened because of this. But at the same time, he was in jail most of my life. So you got a good relationship with him now? Kind of sort of. Kind of sort of. You got kids? I got a brother and a sister on that side. So I got relationships with him. How many brothers and sisters you got in total? My mama's side, I got four brothers and one sister. I'm the oldest. Okay. On daddy's side, I got an older brother and me and my sister about the same age. And I got some more brothers that I ain't met. So y'all got a lot of boys. Not many sisters. Yeah, boys running the family. I see. I speak boys. Like, all of my... Are you the only rapper? Yeah. Mmm. The only rapper. But you got it from your daddy's side or your mama's side? Nah, yeah, I got it from my mama's side. Okay. My mama, she done wrote poems. She done been on the radio writing poems and shit. And she rap all that. Okay. Are you a punching guy or you a writer? I'm a writer. I could do punching. I could do punching. But like, my... My, like, love for this... Mm-hmm. I got it right. So music is your therapy? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. So you started rapping. When did you know you was going to just, just what you was going to dedicate your whole craft to, your life to doing rap music? All right. A couple years ago, now there was more than a couple years ago, like 2013 around that time where I was hustling that it was a studio. So when there were the laws that come hit the block, I run straight in the studio. And I'll pay for an hour, pay for two hours. Like you were there. Yeah, like move me right now. And it was like, yeah, I could rap for real. And that was, man, shout out to Yank Mavie from Houston. You know what I'm saying? But like, I go there and I start recording. And it was like, it started getting most serious because I was fucking with real rappers at that point. And it's like this, you know, like, yeah, yeah. It was getting serious then around that time. When it starts, it's real. Like, you know, what real rappers was you messing with? Well, real to me. First I got around, um, you know what I'm saying? My bro, he's no longer with us. He started Trouble Fam. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And he was better rapping that shit. He was better rapping with the greats. He didn't better rap. Like he didn't been the wrong, chaotic. Like he was wrong. Like he was wrong. How did he kill? He got killed, you know, street violence, regular street violence. So Trouble Fam is a group for y'all? Trouble Fam is a group. And it's not a big group. How many? Two. Oh. Two, three, maybe four. A lot of people don't rap no more. So yeah. Okay. So you the only one still rapping in the group? I'm the only one still rapping. Okay. But they, but y'all, but they rap. That's why I can't let it go. Mmm. You, do you, would you like to see some others come in once you get it going good? Yeah, but not more so Trouble Fam. It's kind of, to me it's kind of like hard for somebody to just come in. Yeah. If they wasn't there with us. Yeah. Yeah. See, a prophet who started Trouble Fam, Trouble Fam got a meaning. Every little thing got a meaning. What's the meaning? The meaning is to tell it to rappers, organize on the beach lives and entertainment, forming a movement. That's what Trouble Fam means. Mmm. That's live. Yeah. And so prophet started that. That's live. Started it years ago before I even came about it. And that was the meaning. But when I came about it and we, you know, we clicked. That's what it was. It was Trouble Fam, but it was just only us two. Mmm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? So I kind of like took it. I took it all the way up because I, you know, like, if I'm a part of something, I'm going to rip that brand. Right. So that's, that's just how that go. Okay. When I see you in the music video Trouble, like, like you got all this blue on, like you just, you know what I'm saying? I don't know, you know, like you snooped out a little brother to be honest with you. Nah, man. That's what I thought about when I first saw you because you had this blue on. And I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying? I don't know how I'm going to interview this guy. I mean, I started to put my blue on just to show you, nigga, it was going to be cool for us to do this interview. But what does, how does a guy from Houston, because I asked these niggas this man, I asked, I asked, uh, shout out to Aldi 300. I asked certain because it's gangs here in, in Texas. Yeah. Yeah. But you got guys here in Texas. I brought guys from LA. I asked the guys from LA. How can the guys in LA? Do they take the guys in Texas serious? Because it originated in LA. So how do a guy in Houston, Texas, that was from fifth ward end up being affiliated with anything to do with Griffin? Man, a long time ago, see what it is, is well, like it's a guy named Sam Brown Hoover to Houston. Okay. I'm a Hoover. You know, we don't, we don't just follow the creeps. Like I say, so Sam Brown Hoover to Houston. And so from there it branched off. This was a long time ago. From there it branched off. So if you didn't come from that branch, you know what I'm saying? For the most part, if you didn't come from nowhere up under him or you don't know, like you're not, you know what I'm saying? Not official. Yeah, you're not official. Is Sam from Houston or is he from LA? I don't know that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know that. I just know that history. Yeah. Because there is a definitely, you know, from three stripes to all this, three stripes is his video look just like yours. You know what I'm saying? Like when he wearing this and he's in that, he's in Mocha, Georgia. Yeah. You know, like, like I've seen these guys fly in and do interviews and it's like. Nah, I see the blue bandana go through a lot of sys. So you would get it confused if you don't know. Like, let's say we in the club or anybody, we know what kind of crypto it is by their hand signals and shit. Oh, you can really tell the average person will never know. I'd have been, I just was in a show with B-King and you know, it was from Rollin' 60s on the other side and them niggas was banging. We ain't even, no, we ain't even let it be known. But it could have started a whole what at the show. Yeah. Just because these niggas banging on this and they rolling 60s. Wow. It's crazy, man. It's crazy like that. Well, I did not. Well, no, no, no, no, no. Why did you join the Hoover's? And how old were you? I was in elementary school. That young? Yeah, I was young. My mama was Hoover. Okay. So like, I was kind of like born into this shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't a nice place. Right. And it was going down like that. Okay. I just didn't know how, because some people. I got kicked out of elementary school for flagging. They kicked the site. We was coming in there with our flags. This is an Accu Hennessy. Wow. Just in his home. Did you finish school? I got my GD. Okay. So, you know. So being a part of any situation, gang, whatever, how, I mean, you hadn't been to prison or you hadn't been in it. You pretty good at it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? To stay afloat. I always been smart. And I had no choice but to get smarter. Other than that, it was lessons. Yeah. And lessons made me smarter. So yeah, no, no prison for me, man. Like I can't, I beat every case I caught. Was the territorial being from Hoover? Where are you from? Like, did, did, like if you got. The difference between Houston and L.A., they never was on point with that, with that side of gangbanger. Me growing up in Houston, we had to worry about bloods. I'm from Fifth Ward, the bloody nickel. So we had to worry about them. But like at the same time, I grew up under them. Like, you know what I'm saying? The, the, some of the biggest rappers from my hood was like bloods. Rock rap, sleep and all them corn, they all bloods, you know what I'm saying? But like I was raised under them niggas. But yeah, that, that, that was our problem. And L.A., you got Hoover's Beefin' with Crips and like it just get a lot more, it get a lot more dangerous. Wow. You, that, that, that song is it, the Trouble Like song. One of them song I listened to, you kind of had a sound like the baby. I'm not lying. I could hear it, bro. I heard that. I could hear it, nigga. I heard it. I be listening. I'm listening to music. Let me go for, let me go for the back. Let me go for the back. I see when it comes to the baby, Houston ain't know about him till he shot that nigga at Walmart. Correct, correct. Hell, I didn't know about him till he shot that nigga at Walmart. When he shot that nigga at Walmart, I got tagged under his shit. Like, hey, this nigga sound like y'all. Oh, okay. It wasn't no, you know what I'm saying? But you know, it's, it's, it's all you, so you wouldn't know before. So I don't point. Yeah, no, you don't point. But it's like people didn't know me. So it's easy to say that I sound like him because you didn't know me and you didn't know we had this flow first. But, but you switch it up too. I listen to both. I switch it up a whole lot. I seen you switch it up since I listened to the song you got out. That's his problem right now. That's his problem right now. Okay. What I'm saying. Okay. They want, they want bro to switch it up. That's what I'm saying. I can switch it up. It's easy. So he can't do what you can do. Well, I ain't gonna say that. Man, the baby is huge. I ain't gonna say that, but it's not too many people that could do what I could do. And I stand on that. Okay. We just talking about rap right now. Correct. So, you know what I'm saying? Right. But yeah, nah. To switch it up like that is fly. I'm just telling you, I seen that in the, I listened to one song. I'm like, Nah, I can switch it up. So like the baby. That thing don't sound like the baby. You mess me up with that. Yeah. Nah. The first single I drop on the NFL with BK. That's what everybody was in the coming saying. Yeah. We already got it the baby. We this and we that. It's like, oh, okay. That's how y'all feel. Boom. That's the thing. You know, we kept dropping. I think it was the freestyle. We dropped the whoopedax. Yeah. I listened to the freestyle. And that's when niggas was like, nah. No, he don't. Yeah. Yeah. You switched it up. But it being y'all was killing it. I love it. The energy. BK energy is stupid too. Y'all energy together is crazy. Like how was it when you first linked up with him? And basically, you know what I'm saying? Turned up. And how did y'all even meet? Right. Man, like he was saying, you know, he was outside. I was outside. It's not when it comes to music, like I'm a fan of music all around. So you know what I'm saying? I was always a BK fan too. I'm young, way younger than him. Way younger than him? Yeah. When he was speaking, you know what I'm saying? You know, to us, this nigga been famous for a long time. A long time. Yeah, I get it. I just told him, I brought up Sergeant James. We was in a teenage club. You know, we was in a teenage club. You know, dancing to his songs and stuff, getting rolled up. That's what, you know, and I asked you, you just had to get rolled up. Yeah. That was counted. How many times you got rolled up? How many times you got rolled up? That's what was going on in that bar. And we, you know, it was going down. We was getting rolled up to BK. They had that Christian. We used to hit the hell too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was their early on right there. Yeah, man. So, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But really. So we got linked in, kept running into each other. And see, I always was VIP. For the most part, when he'd come, then put him in a VIP session. And I had access to. So I just popped by and, you know, I was speaking all that shit. Like that's, that's how, that's how it came about. And so I seen him, I speak. And it was like, I wouldn't fan that. So it's like, I just speak and it'll be, you know what I'm saying? It'll be that to the point to what he started noticing me. Then once I started making a little money, like, you know, I had seen him and I wanted to feature. And I paid him. I think I paid him that same night. I paid you that same night, huh? That was back in my trap. You dropped that bread, right? You dropped that bread. Yeah, that was back in my trap. And I was like, man, I need you on the song. And he's like, I bet. And he told me how much. He's like a thousand. I'm about to say, I ain't talking folks like that. He didn't even hit him. Like, yeah. He didn't even hit me like that. But I done heard some of his prices. You said that, I was like. Because he's been watching you for a while. So he already knows. I've heard your prices, nigga. Yeah. Yeah. Like when he told me that price, I went, I think I'm left, if I'm remembering right, straight and got the money. Like, yeah, do that quick. Yeah. We're going to go ahead and do this. You brought back to the club. That's a rough sub. Yeah. So when you, and once you came back after that job, when did the, y'all, y'all met up and done the song in the studio? Nah, he sent it back to me. Oh, he sent it back. Okay. He sent it back to me fast. I think like the next day or some shit. All right. Yeah. He sent that right on back. Yeah. He sent it right back. The song was hard, too, though. The song to this day is catching plays. That's like. Yeah. What's the name of that song? It's Bum As Pussy. Okay. We dropped it. We dropped it. That was later. That was later. It was you. You're right. It was later. We did run it up. Run it up. It was run it up. It was with Money Making Boom. He was a big promoter. Okay. Okay. That's the, see, I'm the only thing that got a song with him since he even been home. Real Tom. Yeah. He's one of the biggest promoters in Houston. Yeah. On the north side. In the south side. And it goes in. It's the big promoter. You know what I'm saying? So that, that was the first one. So the bum as pussy, he heard it and he did that motherfucker for free. Yeah. That's what, yeah. That's what's going on. That's real dog. Like, like, and, and how, how, when was it, when y'all decided? Okay. When he decided or when you decided that y'all was going to link up, he was going, he was going to manage you. You know, you're going to be a part of his, his brain. I mean, it was like, honestly, like, I don't know. It was just, it just was kind of like chemistry. No, but how many years after it was like a year after, a year later? It was probably like a year. It wasn't long after. Okay. It was just, you know, it was, it was, it wasn't long after. Okay. I like that man. I mean, and, and what have you learned from being in the studio with B. King? I'm, I'm learning everything. Everything at least I need to learn. Like what? Give me some examples. The people want to know. For us, like the things that I don't know. Okay. You know, he's a, he's a famous rapper. Correct. And I'm not. Okay. So I'm learning all of that. You're a street nigga. I'm learning, yeah, I'm learning how to, you know, I'm learning how to, how to be famous and not be more street, you know, not be so street. And that's good for me. Like I'm all forward. It's hard. Don't get me wrong. It's hard, but like. Have you put situations around people to where you like, all the time. But I got to remember. Yeah. I got to remember who I'm representing. Exactly. But you like, damn this nigga in there. Yeah. But the nigga better not get out of line. Nigga, I'm with this nigga. Even he know that. I tell him like, I'm like that nigga. Say nigga, that nigga right there, he right nigga. I can tell you know on that movie, they were, when somebody was sitting in the back seat, that was on that 50 cent movie a long time ago. That nigga moving back here. That nigga moving back here. It's like when you write. Damn. It's like when you write, you're right. He knew. When you write, you're right. He couldn't be able I don't like that nigga moving. That was my shit. No, but, and that's, that's real that, that, that God would put you in a situation where, where really it's a thing that everybody, people would want to be in that situation, man, to where, where they could link with somebody like, that's established. And you, Yeah. You, you're one of those guys, man, that you adapt. Right. You come into these situations. I've been around a lot of people, man, you know, and you can tell if it's somebody that you really not jiving with. You look at a nigga and said that nigga ain't right. Nigga, I'm from the streets. That nigga ain't right. So I, I felt that part of that movie too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but you got, you still got know how to, know what I'm saying? Still got to work with this business. At the end of the day, you're going to meet a lot of people that you really ain't going to be feeling like, right? So, I mean, like when y'all go do the, the parties, the, the, the, the shows, wherever you out there, man, how is it when you get in front of those people? I know it and put you in front of some folks. I mean, with me, I'm getting wrong. I'm still from the hood. So it's like, you know, it's just, How about West told me on here, he was out there and just smiled and, you know, I just been chilling. How about West said, there's too many damn people out there. It's like, it's a lot of people out there, man. And then he like, you got Gucci, and I got to go out here. But I signed up for it. You signed up for it. And see, that's one thing. I'm like, I know how to, like you just said, I got to adapt to this. So I signed up for it. I got to be ready for anything that comes with it. And that means anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So do you think like, like when, when it come down to your music, where do you want to be at? Like in the next, say, you know, this, this, this quarter is about to be the last quarter of the year. What do you want to be at? Me next year. Me next year. I want to be like freshman level. Okay. For us, like the whole rap game. Because yeah, yeah, that's, that's why I see Elise. I want to go further than that, but I know how working goes. So I at least want that freshman for as the full rap game. Not just to, you know, you know, just to everybody. Yeah. Stay on that nigga for, he's going to drop a hit. He do it every year. You watch that nigga, man. You know what I'm saying? When he drop it, when he drop it, you be right on that thing. No, he don't put me on with it. You know what I'm saying? You got to be right on that thing. Man. Yeah. Sevens that I bought a nowhere like. His album come out Friday. See, I was just about to ask. Did you? October 7th, full of hits. So basically, October the 7th, what's it called? Yeah, not a piece raw. What's your, what's your new album called? It's called Gangry. While you're one. How many songs on it? 12. 12? Dang. You're giving them a lot. Okay. You from down in Houston, right? So when you look at, the way that Houston feel is the Houston music, the Houston sound, you guys are different than, then you got your own, it's like it's own country. You pop trunk. You do a whole bunch of different things that other people don't do. I know I traveled to U.S. and other countries, nigga. I ain't seen nobody else doing what y'all do, man. How is it like being coming up in an era like that? Is it just normalized? So when you go other places, can you tell like, man, this ain't like age down? Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. You could go anywhere until the, that it ain't age time. You know what I'm saying? Like anywhere outside of Houston. Yeah. And you can tell this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What about Galveston? It's pretty close, nigga. Nah. What about Omba Texas, nigga? It's right there. Nah. You know what I'm saying? Because I stayed in Omba, you know what I'm saying? Nah. I used to hoop in Omba. Like I stayed in the neighborhoods. Nah. It's not even like the rest of, but don't get me wrong. Omba is considered Houston, though. In Houston, Omba considered Houston. That's what I'm thinking. It's pretty close. It's right there. Yeah. Georgetown, nigga. It's up the street. Georgetown, nah. So when I look, like I say, I look at the, I look at what's going on in Houston. I'm about to hit you with the question. So, you know, you can answer it or you can choose not to answer it. But the other week, we had an issue over there where Texas looked pretty different, man. We seen two or three video tapes come out. You know what I'm saying? We've seen one man on the ground for a second. We've seen the camera, you know, come back in, the TMZ dropped it. We've seen people on the news reporting what was going on live. Like what is going on down there? When you think about zero and Trey, the truth, what was going on with that? And from your perspective, man, from my perspective, man, let me tell you, if we, if we, you know, family, if this, if this, we're not, I ain't gonna say family because you got, you got, you know what I'm saying? You got interviews was coming not to where one person saying, we're not family at all. So, you know, they're not family, but you know what I'm saying? For us being a street dude, you know, said to my understanding, not to nobody else's, if you riding with me and you, and you don't take your case, I'm gonna fuck you up. Like it don't matter. It don't matter when I come home. It doesn't matter. You're gonna be fucked up. And we, I don't care if we jump you. I don't care how I look to the public. But how, how long have you been home though? Not, see, well, when it comes to that, you see what I'm saying? When he did not, when it comes to that, see, J-Ton is, J-Ton is who? He's real. Like he's affiliated from here to LA. He called Roa. He called him out already. See, shit like that goes unnoticed because don't nobody know who he is. It didn't, it didn't become noticed till something happened to Zero and everybody fell bad for him. You know what I'm saying? And like, I'm a big, I'm a big Roa fan. Like, I still, man, listen, I'm, who's not a Roa fan? Like the nigga hard as hell. Like, it's no denying that. But I'm in the streets and it's like, man, this certain shit you can't just, you could, not say nothing. That's why you got the gangsters, rap niggas, they not saying nothing because they just, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, nah, man, like, something got to be wrong with it. You know what I'm saying? But nah, he called them out. That's what I'm saying. Okay. He called them out when he came home. So the niggas, if a Roa would have fought him 101 when he came home, that shit wouldn't have ever happened. Yeah, but still, how does it happen? How does he, how does three folks, people, what it, that's, that's like, like I just said, like, man, shit, that's just how the shit go. That's just how shit go. People looking at that wrong. You know how many people get jumped every time something going on? Niggas get jumped. So you think it's okay to get jumped? It's not okay to watch a, it's not okay to sit down and watch your partner fight somebody. That's what's not okay. Really? Yeah, really. So you can't get a nigga a feral? Nah, hell nah. Ain't no such thing. Ain't no such, not no more. We're changing. These niggas don't even take feral ones. Wow. I'm an old nigga. I ain't know that. Especially when you had a chance, especially when you had a chance to get a feral one. He could have beat, man, he could have beat J-Tun up behind the scenes and nobody would never know. He could have went and beat that nigga up like, beat his ass. Nobody wouldn't know. And J-Tun wouldn't even ever do that in the body. But it's like, like man, it's just so, like it's so much too, and you can't even just listen to me. This is just my opinion. I know. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm a Hoover nigga. But it's like nah, like man, it's just a lot. It's a lot goes with that situation. Because both of them niggas supposed to be Hoover too. So like it's a lot, like it's a lot. You know that. You know her role, say he Hoover. J-Tun is for show Hoover. He's official. Wow. Man, it's just crazy. So they really, in a sense, really if you ask me, both of them niggas could get violated though. They both can. Wow. Wow. For one, J-Tun, when he did that shit, he had niggas involved. That wasn't Hoover. He can get violated for that. Y'all jumped on the homie. He can get violated for that. Boom. For a second, Roe turned down the fight. He's already passed the fight. This nigga went on one. They could've did this shit on the clock. Both of you niggas are fired. It was Hoover. That's 52 seconds. And it's over. So it's like, yeah, it could've, it could've, it's supposed to go. That's 52 seconds. 52 seconds. That's all they have to fight. That's all they was supposed to fight. Wow. If it was, you know, if it was that serious, y'all gotta probably show that 52 seconds it's supposed to go like that. Or if it was serious like that, you know, Roe could've got violated. But like, you know what I'm saying? That's how it was supposed to be more protocol, if you ask me. Wow. But I don't feel like the situation was wrong because I know this. I know me. Like if I feel like anything going on, I catch you in public. I don't care about I don't care about these rappers. I don't care about these cameras. We're going to get busy. Well, let me ask you a question because when I think about, and this is from me, from the outside looking in, I know nothing about the gangs and all of that sort of stuff. Okay. But if you have an affiliation or a gang, and these two are the same type of gang, shouldn't there be somebody who's above them to say, hey, bring them together and say, this is what's supposed to happen? Because they violated. That bring me back to saying, you got J-Town being a real hoover, real, real hoover. And then you got, and then you got rappers as rapping about being who. You know what? Let me ask you this. After Niggas was both on that level, trust me, that's how it would have ended. That's crazy. So what age? No age. Does it stop? I ain't no age. Let's say you're 50 or something. You're 50? My legs hurt. My arm hurts. Niggas is not an age. The nigga that on the bruntial show, he's every bit of 50 and he will whoop anybody. He's the OG, OG champ who I brung out. That nigga is a real OG. Because he'll fight anybody. And he good with the money. Because every bit of it. And he good. So you don't, he good. Well, I know it don't stop because I done had 70, I got a 72-year-old problem and you just sold my champ. Yeah, like man, it just, it don't stop. I done had, he the oldest living in Peru and him and Wack 100 just threatened each other. So it don't stop. It get fucked up for us when people ask questions like that. All you got to know, that's not even questioning you. It never stops. Yeah, like, that's not even, that's the little barcode. At the same time, people joined these gang soul young that you would think that when you get to a certain age you move out of the way and leave for the other. But see how it really goes is when you get to a certain age you get tired of the fakes. We don't have these problems when it's going on for real. I could call my homies, somebody can call our homies and we'll get this shit resolved. What about a community, you're not a Crip. We do that too. Nah, I'm not a Crip. Community revolution and then progress. Nah, that's, that's not, Nobody help the community no more. Community no more. That's internet banging. For real? Yeah. But does the group of people though try to help to We have toy drives and shit. We give back regardless. We do that. Because isn't that why the gangs were starting in the first place? Yeah. To help the community to protect their own people? Certain gangs, yeah. But your gang wasn't started for that reason? Nah. What was the reason? Honestly, I couldn't tell you the exact reason because I didn't start it. I just know how, you know, I just know what's going on. But like, for like, we give back for sure. We give back. You're born into it. Do you have a choice? Like when you were born into it to say, I don't want to do this? Of course you got a choice. Yeah, you got a choice. But you just breathed it. Yeah, like it was, it was just Burst into it. Yeah. Lifestyle. It was fear for me and it's like, you know, it still is. Do you, do you, when you're in this music, because you're going to have the opportunity you blow up, you could change the world. What are you going to do to change things to make it better for our people? Man, I'm going to do whatever I can. Especially when I'm in position. Whatever I can, because I do want to see it change. And that's how you really change something. You do whatever you can. How do you want it to see change though? How, in what way? You say the community? Yeah, how do you want to see change? What would you like to see happen? In your people. For one, I would start with the OGs. You're going to make them, J. Yeah, I would start. Me personally, I would start with them. Because that's who we start with in the streets when there's so much bullshit going on. It's like, y'all being misled and boom, why you being misled? Oh, it's because of this nigga and he's not even an OG. Let me ask you something, man. I hate to jump subjects on you. This man, they found out this woman, a husband and a wife and a son and this is wild to me. But still, I'm just looking at them. They seen him when he get out the car like you. Yeah, with the chain and he targeted at that point. How important is it to watch how you move around this damn thing, man? It's so important. It's the most important thing. That's why when I'm on the road. Yeah, if you went there and you, you coming out too. Yes. And you don't have your people with you. I'm going to have my people with me. Because he only had his girl. You can't just have your girl. In the wrong place. I can't speak on him. I'm like, I've never been to LA. It's politics. If I go to LA, I go straight to Hoover Street. And so now that's how we moving. We're not just moving with just me. We're moving with the homies. So you can pull up on the streets you want to. You can get the same thing. You know, like it's going to be our gang. That's just hot. Like, man, it's so deep when it comes to gangbanging. Like, he's not a gangbanger. So you go into any I don't even think that was gang related at all. All right. But you got LA. You got LA niggas that's hungry. You're still a gang. See, people get that twisted too. You could be in the gang and face the area. So you ain't got to, you might not even run into the gang, gangbangers. You might run to somebody who just grew up over here and had it bad. It needs money. So you grow. So any city you go into, you go find the hoovers. Yeah. And whether you know them or not. Yeah. That's how it's because you are a part. That's how it's supposed to be. Yeah, I'll stick together. Yeah. That's how it's literally supposed to be. But for the most part, we got somebody that we could call and they're going to call to this specific, you know, area. And then you come in. They're going to know we even coming. We didn't have, we didn't have people make calls out of towns. And when we touched down, they got a driver for us. They got guns for us. They got security for us. Same way with Houston. Yeah. And this goes to New York. That's where it goes. To Atlanta, to Shreveport, to L.A. Wherever you at. But when you go out of state, when you go out of the United States. That's checking in. Do y'all have them outside of the United States? Yes. Well, I don't know outside of I've never been outside of the United States, but I'm within the bed. We do. Mm hmm. One thing about Hoover's, we're the biggest set in the world. There's no set bigger than this. Really? But we're not Chris. We're not Chris, but it's no set. Why do you count these niggas, man? No. Hey. You know what I'm saying? We got the biggest group in the world. We got here like count them. We're the biggest set because Seth's got one set. We don't got one set. We got nine sets. We got nine sets. So when you talk about Hoover, I'm trying to figure this out. Five niggas. Yeah. When you talk about Hoover, when you talk about Hoover, five niggas is one set. Forty niggas is a set. No. There ain't no Hoover. No. Well, I thought it was a set. You got five niggas Hoover. You got five niggas Hoover. You got seven four Hoover. You got it's a lot of Hoover's. That we are falling on the nine. We are falling on the nine sets under the same thing. Hoover. Hoover. Hoover. Hoover. We rock with each other. You go to LA. Nigga ain't got to be from five those Hoover. Them niggas can be from, you know what I'm saying? Like, them niggas can be from way up the street. They rockin' with us. They going to get on your ass. That's crazy. I listen to the big king to five five nigga. He got beat up in jail. Five five. Uh-uh. You find me? You ain't seen him? You find me? You got Hoover killer on this forehead. He just got beat up by one of the homies. How you know? How do you know? Cause I'm the homie. It got to us before it got to the blogs. Damn, that's crazy. Five, five. Cripp. He's got to beat up. He's, he don't follow this. When did that happen? Cause I haven't seen it. It's still surfacing. Five, five. Okay. It's still surfacing. Five, five. When you finally seen it on the, no, it's not a hoover. What is it? Five, five? No, it's a row to 60. It's a, it's a rolling set. How do you know this? Cause I'm, I'm, I'm so, I'm gang educated. I don't, I gotta know this shit. How do you learn all of this? You gotta learn it. Me too. I learned it cause you got, I got taught it. I got people teaching it to me. They don't want me to go down there and not know what's going on. You go to LA. Like for instance, you know our Astros tattoo. I got a home girl. She a blood. And she got the Astros tattoo on her hand and she didn't went to LA. And they didn't check the shit out of her. Like she didn't have been in real danger all cause she got this Astros tattoo, which is hoover. Okay. You know, that, that, that's crazy. That's crazy because you. But Astros also the team. Yeah, but like, What if you fell in love with a blood? A girl. Hey. Are you allowed to? Yeah. You see what I'm saying? How y'all going to be? I don't know. What y'all baby going to be? It's not disrespect. You know what I'm saying? Ganny bag can come in with disrespect or oppositions. So if you're not an op or you ain't disrespected, yeah, like that's what I was saying about like bloods and crips don't beef in LA no more. You don't got demnics beef with crips. I mean with beef with bloods, you got we beef with crips. Hoovers are beef with crips. And bloods is beefing with bloods. But bloods probably beef with bloods. Beef with Peru. We beef with some bloods. Just like Peru, Peru said I'm not a blood. Nah, and hoops we beef with some bloods. They're not bloods, they beef with the brims. The hummies in LA beef. Yeah, the hummies in LA beef with the brims. Does this change all the time? Change all the time. Man, how the hell you supposed to keep up with that? It change all the time, but it stay like that. Damn. See, I'm different because I got I in LA hoops. I like got me a whole educational course. I was making a trap this before it's out. In LA? Two T's on the board. He said, you got to take that out. That's that for treetop. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's bloods. That's Peru. That's Peru. Yeah. So you like, damn, I just put the trees on it. But it's that serious. Cause I'll drop this shit in the homes. You gonna be like, yeah, cause you got two T's on it. Like nah, I don't even want to. I could go through it, but I don't want to. Nah, if I get it, you know what's going down. Man, that's crazy though. And when I was just, all right, like in LA, Houston on Hoover's beef with Sistis. In Houston, these niggas don't beef with Sistis cause they don't notice. And I keep it from going like that to the best of my ability. So that's how crazy it is. Like I try my best to keep this shit from going like that. Wow. Cause we not in LA. So I do preach that to these niggas, but it's like, and it's even in LA, that should start it for a reason. Hoover got to sit here in Dallas too. We got to sit in Dallas. But who you interview might not be. This is not LA. But there's a lot of people perpetrating out there. Yeah, nah, that's basically what I'm saying. Cause trust me, we know about the homies this in Dallas. Because you say you know them by the handshake and stuff, but can somebody who perpetrate really just find out about all the handshakes and all the signals and all of that stuff? Yeah, nah, that's not how I say we know them. How you know them? We know them. We gonna know them by name. Have you really feel that? You know their names, each and every one. We can find out their names if you affiliate it. They have a book somewhere where everybody listed? Yes. Damn, y'all serious? Yes. We just spoke on his book. We just talked about his dad's serious too. For real? Your book? So as soon as somebody joined, they write their name down. Look, I might not be, nobody, nobody in LA might not know my husband, know who under me. But when they try to call around and see who I am, they gonna find out, psycho, his line. So boom, once they find out my line, whoever they trying to check, if I call them and say, yeah, he under me, he green, just like that. Okay. And that's the point of the video. See, people just look at gangbanging and you feel like it's no, I don't know what people feel like, but to us it's really a lifestyle and we really live like this and we really know who is who. Do y'all recruit? Your whole life. Do y'all recruit? We always recruit. So if you recruit, say five dudes and they come in, if they do something out of line, are you in trouble? No, he's in trouble. Big trouble? He in trouble. And he gonna get beat up for that. That's called a DP. Yeah. I learned that. Everybody won. I didn't know, I don't know, but I done been checking the news, I think it's getting DP'd around this thing. He gonna get a DP. That's crazy. I've never got a DP. Damn, that's a hell of a deal. And I don't even think Niggas won a DP. Hell, I don't think Niggas need to be out there DP and nobody man, let's see. I don't know how the DP go, like a lot of niggas can't fight. One nigga with your ass. We're like two, three niggas like you out of that. But like, yeah, nah, it's serious like that. Wow. I'll just let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell you this right now. And I ain't playing no games, man. We love you, bro. And we love you. And at the end of the day, I'm telling you right now, if you need me, I'm here. I'm not for the do no game, banging with you. I'm old nigga. No, I ain't gonna bring you to that game, man. But listen, bro, I love you, bro. You family now. That's the way we do it here. And I ain't for the let you leave off this panel without me telling you, man, that God is real. At the end of the day, family is real. And we your people, I ain't got to be in no color to know that I love you, bro, and I'll ride for you when it's something right. You know what I'm saying? Period. And that's the way, you know, back in the days when the brother seen you in the store, he'd be like, what's up? You ain't bringing people so much close to each other. Call it bringing you to cut it together, too. Not even, it ain't even just about the color. In that pen and tension, I'm gonna tell you right now, you getting that pen and tension a ride jump off, I guarantee you, it's gonna be about your color. Yeah, but pen and tension. You understand what I'm saying? That's why I was telling him earlier, pen and tension is misled. They're not bangin'. No, but I'm saying if you get to be dying and it's Hispanics over here and it's blacks over here, you will pick the right side. I promise you. No, that's because they're not bangin' right. We got Hispanics in Hoover. So all we, that's why I'm saying they're not bangin'. You can't do it. They're not bangin' right. The pen is not. They bangin' for life. Look, the pen is fuckin' up the whole game. Because what's goin' on is these niggas gettin' out of jail bangin'. That's what's goin' on in hip-hop. These niggas comin' home bangin' so that, you know what I'm sayin'? So they join the nigga in the prison. Damn. And it's like y'all drown in the wrong shit they misleadin' y'all. Damn. Like man, that shit's so big, I can't even talk about it. Trouble, fame, psycho. But the simple fact that the homies don't even fuck with these niggas. So it's like we don't even talk about them cause we don't disrespect them or even bring them up. They don't get no life from us. Man, this is something else, man. Trouble, fame, psycho. They educated me on what's goin' on with the gang life. He's got a new album comin' out. To be honest with you, Beat King is the one that managed you. It's the one that managed your education on the album. Oh really? Like bring him back next time and just have a talk about that alone. Alone, just the whole album. Alone. Just the whole album. Are you serious? The whole album is goin' down through there. Are you gonna be? I mean, yeah, Forza Street's period. It's called Gangertree. It's called Gangery. Forza Street's period, yeah. It's just talkin' about a whole lot of gang shit. Damn. Boy, I tell you, we love you, brother. Did you give us our top three? We need our top three for it. No, top three artists of all time. Dead or Alive, Annie Johnner. Dead or Alive. Annie Johnner. I'ma stay. I'ma definitely say Michael Jackson. Hey. From there, it's gonna go Eminem and Biggie. I ain't got no heart. It's not hard. Damn. And Eminem over Biggie? Yeah. Damn. Why? All right. You ask me. Yeah, I'm asking. I definitely gotta hear this. Because Biggie dead. He ain't droppin' no more music. Eminem's dead, droppin'. Yeah, but there ain't nobody. You ain't got no Eminem on your phone right now if I get it. I don't got no Biggie on my phone. But you ain't done it. How can that be your top? I always say that we done had this conversation. In my top? How? In my top. You listen to him like that. I don't listen to him. I go listen to them rappin' on beats that's probably not even the original song. You know how people do nowadays, they'll take your vocals, rappers like that, Biggie and him, they'll take your vocals and put it on a whole another beat. I don't listen to that shit. I don't listen to Eminem. I mean, I listen to Biggie rap on Lean Back. Have this nigga ever rapped on the on Fat Joe beat Lean Back? He haven't. But I love that song that they put his verse on. That mean that they put Biggie, you know? Well, they ask you this, so... Yeah, let me... No pop. I told you I'm a lyrical fan. So pop ain't lyrical? No, pop is not lyrical, bro. Pop is lyrical. He's not. That first album. His technique is not... Pop is like a G-Z to me. What? I feel you on that. I don't. I guess I... I'm gonna say, I'm gonna explain. Like Biggie, he's a technical man. I know I'm pissed off some 80s babies. I was right nine. I don't mean no home. But it's like, you know what I'm saying? Pop is nine. I fuck with pop. I listen to... I fuck with the gangster. But we're not talking about being gangster. We're talking about rapping. I fuck with lyrics and lyrical and how people perform shit. Pop wasn't doing shit. Yeah, like I fuck with all that. Pop wasn't doing that. He was a gangster and he was, you know what I'm saying? Doing that. Biggie was doing it. But he still wasn't fucking with Eminem. Biggie is gonna jab you. I said Michael Jackson because musically, you say it in the genre. So that's why I said Michael Jackson. But when you talk about lyrics, so you wouldn't say Jay-Z? Nah, I wouldn't. Scarface. Scarface and lyrical, he's nine. Hell nah. And I'm from Houston. Scarface and lyrical. Listen. Y'all ask me these questions and I'm saying it again. Y'all niggas. Oh yeah. Scarface. Face my cousins and them, they listen to face, man. You say he's not lyrical. Not to me. He's not lyrical. He's not lyrical as my list. He's not more lyrical than Biggie. He's not more lyrical than Eminem. Are you crazy? Than him? Than him. Nobody's more lyrical than him. So you tell it. Biggie, let me say this. Let me say this. So you telling me on storytelling, Eminem, you put them in there. Eminem gonna tell a better story than Scarface. Ask me that question. Nah, I'm not a... You ain't ask me that. No, I'm asking. Y'all ain't know way. You ain't ask me that. Ain't no way. You ain't ask me that. Stand is all you got. Storytelling. This land does this every time. Yeah, but what I'm saying is you ain't ask me that. You don't ask me that. I'm not saying I'm gonna go like this. You wonder why I go this way. You getting the whiff of it. Storytelling, I think it still wouldn't be face. What? It wouldn't. Trouble fame, psycho in the building. Hey man, say man, you done really educated me today, man. Trouble fame, psycho, man. I see why you got the name, baby. You know what I'm saying? You got to come back and rock with us. No, for sure. You got to. Say, man, I'm gonna be real with you, man. Now, I'm checking in. I know I ain't really just, I'm not playing a DP game with you when I get down there. I'm coming, I'm a check in. That mean nigga just tell the group I'm there. Oh, we're gonna be live. But I'm not, I'm not, I'm not checking. I'm not doing it like y'all do it. I can't really do it. My bones be hurting. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to go for a group. Roll me up, you, where we at? We on a greens joint. We don't roll up. What, what, what? We don't roll up. The homies don't say, they don't even say roll up. What the hell, Lord? They say stroll up. I forgot. Yeah, you can't say nothing. Stroll up, okay. Man, you look, this, they didn't surprise me with that. You know, I gotta say, don't get it wrong. I'm from Houston. This is very educated though. Yeah, like they ain't, they ain't bullshit with you, man. Went down, do no rolling up, man. Man, love you bro, love you. Man, I, hey, man, I got me a new best friend. Don't play with it, man. Yeah, man. Check it, man. Don't fuck with cuz. Hey, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a boss is talk.